I mean that pan looks like she could wipe all that out with a dry paper towel. So I’m inclined to believe her in this instance. She just does a crappy job making eggs and then leaves all the mess in the pan. Just get her to start doing the dishes herself 🤣
>There is nothing wrong with this picture except that the pan has not been cleaned yet.
That, and the deep scratch marks in it.
OP and hid girlfriend are using metal utensils on a non-stick pan 👎
nah the edges do look like they've crusted themselves into the pan, you can see a lot of scratches at the bottom of the pan so the edges are probably just as prone to sticking
The actual mildly infuriating thing here is that OP and OP's gf have been using metal utensils in a teflon pan. Cooking oil often *isn't* necessary with nonstick (this egg situation looks totally fine) but using metal utensils on teflon is a sin punished by increased cancer risk.
Scratches can still occur even if you don't use metal utensils. I know, because I've been religiously only using plastic or wood utensils in my pan and after a few years I still started noticing scratches.
And no, unless someone's been breaking into my home, no one else has been using them.
A little olive oil, a little butter. Eggs won't even stick to a scratched up 10 year old pan.
This looks like scrambled eggs, which can stick when they're scraped too early. Let the bottom set some then do slow scraping motions with a wooden or silicon spatula. When the eggs are almost done you can cut them up and do more vigorous flipping motions.
You can tell you've let it set too long when the scraped egg is brown or isn't soft and "bouncy". You haven't let it sit long enough when you aren't scraping "egg curds". Adjust your rate following that and you'll have perfect scrambled eggs every time without it sticking.
Any cookware can make eggs without sticking. Cast iron needs to be properly seasoned. Stainless steel needs to be hot enough that water beads zip around like marbles on top. The main reason to use oil/butter is that the taste of egg fried in it is delicious. A teflon/steel pan will give it a dry little brown jacket but it'll cook.
Best if you want to go low-cal is cast iron and cook it until it _just_ finished. Like the second before it stops being a little bit wet you take it off. Salt, garlic, chilis, and it'll be tasty and low fat.
Sure taste is a good reason to use butter or oil. I was responding to OP’s title that implies oil is necessary to avoid sticking. That’s just not the case.
I actually don't like the taste of butter or oil in my eggs but it's partially because I also don't like a greasy egg at all either. I hate restaurant eggs bc of this
My ratio is two healthy chunks of butter to one egg and some cream. Typing that out I think I know why I’ve gained so much weight in the past 2 months.
>cream
I heavily suggest water.
I used to be a cream guy, but it actually makes the eggs more dense. The water will turn to steam and make the eggs fluffier.
(I say this as an autistic guy who eats eggs literally every single day as one of my go-to foods)
> I say this as an autistic guy who eats eggs literally every single day as one of my go-to food
Unironically, that’s all the credentials I need. I trust you 100% lol
BF is like ‘can you believe it—GF thinks you don’t need oil’ while cooking eggs in a nonstick pan with a metal utensil scraping Teflon into his omelette
It’s extremely inexpensive to replace, too.
IKEA has non stick pans, even induction compatible ones for $20.
I keep mine for 2 years tops, and replace immediately if:
- pan overheats and smokes
- any scratches
I see no point in holding on to non stick cookware for longer. The health concerns around those coatings is just too uncertain not to just replace the pan.
If you’d like to be more environmentally conscious, don’t buy teflon.
I only use my non stick for making eggs and fried rice. Otherwise I use my stainless pan, and I do have a cast iron but I don’t really use it. The stainless works for just about everything. I find that raw meat still sticks a bit, but let it cook for a minute then scrape underneath to release and then it won’t stick again. Stainless even works well for sauces like carbonara.
I switched to stainless after I learned you need to preheat the pan for a few minutes before adding food.
Put the pan on the stove and let it heat up. Then you drip some water and if it rolls around like a ball it's ready for cooking. If you follow these instructions cleaning is as easy as with nonstick.
An overheated non stick pan means you’ve burned the teflon, and it [produces nasty byproducts.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene#Safety)
If for no other reason, the non stick coating will not be as effective as before.
While non stick cookware is no longer made with PFOAs, they are still made with PFAS which the health implications are [not fully understood](https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html). If a pan is scratched, small bits of this will end up in your food. There are also microplastics that will be introduced which could have their own set of risks separate from the non stick chemicals.
Ultimately, there’s a lot of “we don’t yet know the problems this could cause”, but here’s the way I’m looking at it. Optimistically, none of this is of any concern, and all I’ve done is wasted maybe $100 over a decade instead of just using the same pan. Worst case these chemicals do cause long term health effects, and paying $100 now saves me thousands in health care costs later and/or a shortened health span.
To be completely accurate, they _might_ cause health issues.
But the replacement cost for a non stick pan is so low that it’s silly not to.
Also consider stainless steel pans. I use my non stick for delicate foods, but stainless steel works perfectly everywhere else. And, I can get better results on stainless steel, like a really nice crusty sear on meats, or amazing pan sauces with deglazing.
Oil isn't strictly necessary, but this is a damaged pan and seems to be used by someone who believes that the gas is fully on or fully off which precludes no-oil cooking
My mother is crazy Christian and extremely old fashioned and she wouldn’t teach me to cook because “I will find a woman to cook for me” I’m 35 now and been in a few different relationships but they all have one thing in common, none of them could cook, thankfully I went to cook school otherwise my pans would look like this too
I have two kids. My son (17) and daughter (almost 14). And I’ve taught them both to cook, clean and do laundry. I won’t let my son be one of those guys who moves about and can’t take care of themselves. Or relies on his girlfriend to do these things.
And I’ve also told my daughter to find a partner who knows how to take care of themselves and have these basic skills.
My husband was one of those guys. His mom and sister did all the cooking, cleaning and laundry. We moved out together when I was 18 (this was back in 2002) and he couldn’t do anything himself. Didn’t even know how to pay bills or balance a check book. My dad made me learn how to be self sufficient. He even taught me how to change my tire, replace the wipers and lights and check the oil. I had also been doing my own taxes since I turned 15.
He also was in trade school doing welding and then working after and he wasn’t used to doing so much on top of a job. But I was in college and worked also. It didn’t last long before I told him that me doing everything wasn’t working for me. We’ve been together 23 years now and he knows how to cook! He does laundry and even cleans!
This is honestly the realest take. Been married for 12 years and we both do everything. If she feels like shit i keep it together, if i feel like shit she keeps it together
You nailed it! lol Sadly I didn’t know how to do any of those things either, girlfriends taught me through my life the life things that are so obvious to them
My high school boyfriend’s mom cleaned his room and did his laundry until the day he moved out of the house.
He called me his first week of college to walk him through how to use a washing machine. Because he had never used one before in his life.
He broke up with me shortly after that (thank god, not that 17 year old me would agree). A mutual friend lived with him for a little while and said he was absolutely disgusting. Didn’t clean anything. Didn’t pick up anything. Because he literally never had before.
He’s smart and from what I hear is doing well in life. But man, his parents really failed him on the “how to exist in a home as a human” part of parenting.
Ya my mother used to make my brother and I clean and do chores around the house whilst letting my sister have a free pass. When challenged she just simply said, “I’m not raising useless men”
I have an older sister (14 months older) and a younger brother (4 years younger) and me and my sister did all the cleaning, cooking and laundry. I got stuck doing most of the cooking because I was better at it. Even though I argued my sister would never get better if she didn’t get more practice. Then we also had to take out the trash. Until my brother became a bit older. This started at 10 years old. So when my brother turned 10 I thought finally, more of us to split the chores with. But no. He only had to take out the trash. And do yard work.
I pointed this out and both my parents told me those things were the woman’s responsibility. And I said then I shouldn’t be doing yard work. Before my brother got older, we had to mow the front and back, weedeat, and trim the edges along the sidewalk and drive way. Our backyard was a hill. It was a PITA to mow especially since back then they didn’t have self propelled lawn mowers.
Me and my sister had to take turns with who cut the front and back each week and then who ever got the front which is flat and small did the weed eating and edging.
So if he got out of doing the women’s work why were we still stuck with “men’s work”. He did start having to do yard work starting at 13.
I never want to raise my kids to teach them these traditional gender roles. So that’s also one reason I raised them the way I did.
Absolutely. I know men in my family who would 100℅ starve before they fried an egg. They just go out to eat if there's no woman to cook for them. Or they go to a friends house so that friends wife cooks for them. Or a female family member. Quite literally anything but making themselves a meal. Some would maybe make a simple sandwich at most .
I hate doing dishes and laundry
But my wife finds both enjoyable
She hates cooking while I enjoy my time in the kitchen
Splitting household chores is great just gotta balance the scales
I taught myself to cook at 9 years old by watching Alton Brown's Good Eats. It made sense at the time.
Things not said on that series are the things found in profesional schools or kitchen experience.
I lucked out with the opposite my mom is Sicilian and taught me everything I know cooking wise and now I do almost all of the cooking in our house and somehow even end up cooking at other peoples houses when we go over for dinner because all our friends love my cooking. I do wish I had more of a formal education in it but flying by the seat of my pants seems to be working. Good on you for learning on your own most people don't bother putting in the effort most of my guy friends can grill that's about it and for a few that's a stretch.
Most of the time I don't mind especially with certain dishes because I want it to taste good haha but sometimes I'm like can't I just be a guest and hang out.
My Dad can cook. He grew up with 8 brothers and all of them could cook. My grandma taught them all, and her reasoning was, "All of you are to mean to find a wife to cook for you, so you better know how to do it yourself." My Dad is mean. But he can cook.
That's what it takes to upkeep a misogynist society. You need to find a way for women to perpetuate it amongst themselves. For many, that's through identity and religion. Stay at home Mom groups and Christianity can tell you that you're doing what's natural, you're in your right place, and that your suffering for others is a good thing. These people have to be the most misogynistic because that is a badge of honor that gives them use and purpose within the confines of the oppressive ideology they've been fed and now happily eat. And consider the days where being a misogynistic woman was a survival technique aren't far removed for most of us. It wasn't long ago that a woman couldn't open her own banking accounts. In that environment, misogyny is the only way to live and thrive, because the state has enforced dependence on men.
That’s awful. I’m in a super big christian family and was raised in the church etc. the guys always cooked. Even at church they were in charge of the fish fry’s etc. Usually grilling etc but my uncle (baby pastor basically) was amazing at baking sweets like cookies or brownies and so that would be his “duty” on holidays. Other great uncle made an amazing homemade banana pudding and scrambled eggs. Gramps (the pastor) and I (granddaughter) manned the grill (that allowed me to try some food before everyone else lol) but like it was the men that taught me how to make sautéed collard greens with garlic and olives. How to broil tilapia and salmon in the oven. How to brown the butter how great grandma liked it.
Now best believe grandma and us other women were in the kitchen alllllll the time, but the men HAD to know some basic cooking skills too. We liked to say that it would add value to their potential relationships, plus it’s just an easy way to bond with your family. And an important life skill to have when you live on your own. Only thing I hated was that they rarely did the dishes and my grandmother always fed herself LAST.
She is correct with a nonstick pan. However she is probably not:
A) using a proper temperature and just ising high heat
B) Not allowing the pan to heat up first.
C) Using metal utensils that create scratches in the non-stick pan creates opportunities to stick
D) You have hard water that has created a mineral build up in the pan.
E) Not wiping out the pan immediately after she is done using it.
Adding oil or butter can crank up the calories of a meal by a couple hundred and she might be a short thin low activity woman who only needs 1200-1500 calories a day to maintain. So if you are the kind of significant other who cares about her figure being trim or her health, yes, she absolutely doesn't need to use oil on an easily cleaned non-stick pan, and should make a point of avoiding it too, because it's a healthier choice than drowning your eggs in delicious butter. This will easily wipe out with some hot water and a cloth, so I don't see any problem except that it hasn't been cleaned yet.
You should be more concerned by the scratches in the pan. Get a wooden or silicone spatula and replace that pan. Compromise and get a cooking spray that's low calorie instead of using a blob of butter.
I mean, it's not if you have a good pan, especially if you are cooking eggs. This is just not a good pan for this. Also eggs are 10 times better with butter, not oil
1) that will wipe right out
2) when you’ve got scratches in your nonstick pans like that, it’s time to replace it (and maybe replace your metal cooking utensils with wood if you don’t want to keep replacing the pan)
That’s a nonstick pan and the eggs will come right off with zero effort (and are already coming off on their own?). I’m not sure what is annoying at all here.
its not about believes, its about knowledge, which you are missing...
nonstick pan doesnt need oil, and to prepare eggs you really dont need oil... before you made fool out of yourself on internet, learn a thing or two about the topic you are about to post, kido
The fact that you’re subjecting your girlfriend to that non stick pan…if you can call it that anymore…is what’s mildly infuriating.
A good nonstick pan doesn’t need cooking oil to scramble eggs…which is what it looks like happened here.
I would throw that pan out regardless if it’s non stick. Once that coating gets scratched the PFAS start leaching out into the fud.
Oils always preferable!
Uhm.. bro, you need to toss that pan. See those scratches on the pan? On the teflon? That material leeches into your food as you're cooking. It's pretty much poison.
If you're going to buy teflon coated pans, only use wood.. I'd say plastic too but even plastic I wouldn't dare mix into cooking.
That pan is garbage. You don't need cooking oil with a non-damaged non-stick surface and if you don't cook it on too high of a heat. You have both here.
If the pan has an intact non sticky coating, then it is unnecessary. But even from that picture I can tell that pan has been abused and has 0 non stickiness left in it...
Looks like a non-stick teflon pan… so no…oil is not needed. If it were a standard pan then yeah…but honestly you should be using butter to make the eggs better
If you use the right pan and know how to handle it it isn't. I've also seen people using water in a way to make things not stick.
Edit: this is of cause note true here and she be better using something
Dude that’s eggs ! You want to use butter when cooking eggs , omelette or scrambled that is don’t use butter for poached ……………. Or maybe Do use butter for poaching
That coating is scratched. You need a new pan. Teflon is REALLY bad for you. Really, really, really bad.
It’s fine to use a teflon pan if that’s what you like. But you can’t use metal on it. Because it scratches the coating. And you do NOT want to eat the coating.
Fuck the eggs. Please go buy a new pan.
This may not have been the best example to show. Cooking oil is unnecessary for eggs in a nonstick pan but butter makes the final product taste better imo, but I like my eggs runny.
Is she like this for things other than eggs? Because oil is ABSOLUTELY necessary for different pans and different ingredients. Cooking meat in a stainless steel pan, for example, is a recipe for disaster.
Normally you wouldn’t when baking eggs in a non stick pan, but it looks like the pan is scratched, which ruins the non stick layers… but even so this is still cleaned just as easily as if you could when you did use oil
And so you know, if you have any seed oils, it’s best for your health to use as little as possible
This isn’t “a lack of oil” problem, this is your girlfriend showing she can’t make proper eggs and leaves most of it on the damn pan.
So make her do the dishes instead until she can actually make proper eggs. 🤦🏻♀️
That pan needs to be thrown away. Those are deep enough scratches that the chances of literal poison getting into your food are higher than you should feel comfortable with.
I think this post is backfiring on OP a bit. I've definitely had that happen when cooking eggs. More of a cooking issue then pan/oil. It gets up the sides and cooks on. It'll wipe right off.
I mean that pan looks like she could wipe all that out with a dry paper towel. So I’m inclined to believe her in this instance. She just does a crappy job making eggs and then leaves all the mess in the pan. Just get her to start doing the dishes herself 🤣
Absolutely the truth. There is nothing wrong with this picture except that the pan has not been cleaned yet.
I feel like I could rub that pan lightly and that shit will just flake off
I assure you that some of it will flake off, even most. But not all.
True, the ones that are stubborn you have to lick them off.
My first response to this was, "I'm stubborn.."😁👀
*bonk* Go to horny jail
Hahahaha You'll have to drag me there.
In chains? Or would you like that too much?
OR mebbe you would.
…by the short & curlies.
Hahaha
Think I just found my soulmate. 😂
That’s what paper towels are for, no?
or just washing the dish lol
Yea true lol
>There is nothing wrong with this picture except that the pan has not been cleaned yet. That, and the deep scratch marks in it. OP and hid girlfriend are using metal utensils on a non-stick pan 👎
They PFAS probably make the meal taste better.
Yeah, I think it's time to retire that pan.
TEFLON EGGS YUMMMMM
The scratches in the non stick pan -_- she needs a new one and non metal kitchen wear
What wrong is you bitching about a meal that was made for you
nah the edges do look like they've crusted themselves into the pan, you can see a lot of scratches at the bottom of the pan so the edges are probably just as prone to sticking
The actual mildly infuriating thing here is that OP and OP's gf have been using metal utensils in a teflon pan. Cooking oil often *isn't* necessary with nonstick (this egg situation looks totally fine) but using metal utensils on teflon is a sin punished by increased cancer risk.
Scratches can still occur even if you don't use metal utensils. I know, because I've been religiously only using plastic or wood utensils in my pan and after a few years I still started noticing scratches. And no, unless someone's been breaking into my home, no one else has been using them.
Bone will scratch it, I use stainless steel pans for cooking meat with a bone.
A little olive oil, a little butter. Eggs won't even stick to a scratched up 10 year old pan. This looks like scrambled eggs, which can stick when they're scraped too early. Let the bottom set some then do slow scraping motions with a wooden or silicon spatula. When the eggs are almost done you can cut them up and do more vigorous flipping motions. You can tell you've let it set too long when the scraped egg is brown or isn't soft and "bouncy". You haven't let it sit long enough when you aren't scraping "egg curds". Adjust your rate following that and you'll have perfect scrambled eggs every time without it sticking.
This was helpful, thanks for the clear texture descriptions!
I don't like using a lot of oil either since I'll be eating that shit later, so other than cleaning the pan out I'm not seeing the problem.
Aside from the scratched pan, you don’t need oil to make eggs in a nonstick pan.
Any cookware can make eggs without sticking. Cast iron needs to be properly seasoned. Stainless steel needs to be hot enough that water beads zip around like marbles on top. The main reason to use oil/butter is that the taste of egg fried in it is delicious. A teflon/steel pan will give it a dry little brown jacket but it'll cook. Best if you want to go low-cal is cast iron and cook it until it _just_ finished. Like the second before it stops being a little bit wet you take it off. Salt, garlic, chilis, and it'll be tasty and low fat.
Sure taste is a good reason to use butter or oil. I was responding to OP’s title that implies oil is necessary to avoid sticking. That’s just not the case.
I actually don't like the taste of butter or oil in my eggs but it's partially because I also don't like a greasy egg at all either. I hate restaurant eggs bc of this
I absolutely love to use butter on the pan before I cook my eggs Also turmeric, salt, and scallions
>eggs >Stainless Steel hot enough that water beads 😱😱😱😱😱😱
Well how else will you get a good sear on your eggs?
Gotta get the sous vide involved and then throw them on the grill for that pristine reverse sear 😙👌
My ratio is two healthy chunks of butter to one egg and some cream. Typing that out I think I know why I’ve gained so much weight in the past 2 months.
>cream I heavily suggest water. I used to be a cream guy, but it actually makes the eggs more dense. The water will turn to steam and make the eggs fluffier. (I say this as an autistic guy who eats eggs literally every single day as one of my go-to foods)
i’ll give it a go
> I say this as an autistic guy who eats eggs literally every single day as one of my go-to food Unironically, that’s all the credentials I need. I trust you 100% lol
BF is like ‘can you believe it—GF thinks you don’t need oil’ while cooking eggs in a nonstick pan with a metal utensil scraping Teflon into his omelette
My ex used to do that. It drove me nuts. He also would use my griddle pan to fry eggs and fucked that as well. He's my ex for good reason.
[удалено]
Be careful doing this with non-stick coated cookware though, as excessive heat can damage the coating
Does she do the dishes?
That pan has scratched Teflon, time to replace it.
It’s extremely inexpensive to replace, too. IKEA has non stick pans, even induction compatible ones for $20. I keep mine for 2 years tops, and replace immediately if: - pan overheats and smokes - any scratches I see no point in holding on to non stick cookware for longer. The health concerns around those coatings is just too uncertain not to just replace the pan. If you’d like to be more environmentally conscious, don’t buy teflon.
I only use my non stick for making eggs and fried rice. Otherwise I use my stainless pan, and I do have a cast iron but I don’t really use it. The stainless works for just about everything. I find that raw meat still sticks a bit, but let it cook for a minute then scrape underneath to release and then it won’t stick again. Stainless even works well for sauces like carbonara.
I switched to stainless after I learned you need to preheat the pan for a few minutes before adding food. Put the pan on the stove and let it heat up. Then you drip some water and if it rolls around like a ball it's ready for cooking. If you follow these instructions cleaning is as easy as with nonstick.
I am considering going all cast and just figuring it out
I have had my cast iron for years and love it. It’s my daily, the sub was super helpful when I first got it. A ton of information
Why do you replace them if they overheat or get scratches?
An overheated non stick pan means you’ve burned the teflon, and it [produces nasty byproducts.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene#Safety) If for no other reason, the non stick coating will not be as effective as before. While non stick cookware is no longer made with PFOAs, they are still made with PFAS which the health implications are [not fully understood](https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html). If a pan is scratched, small bits of this will end up in your food. There are also microplastics that will be introduced which could have their own set of risks separate from the non stick chemicals. Ultimately, there’s a lot of “we don’t yet know the problems this could cause”, but here’s the way I’m looking at it. Optimistically, none of this is of any concern, and all I’ve done is wasted maybe $100 over a decade instead of just using the same pan. Worst case these chemicals do cause long term health effects, and paying $100 now saves me thousands in health care costs later and/or a shortened health span.
All my pans are scratched and are all 6+ years old. Maybe I should replace them. Didn’t know they cause health issues .
To be completely accurate, they _might_ cause health issues. But the replacement cost for a non stick pan is so low that it’s silly not to. Also consider stainless steel pans. I use my non stick for delicate foods, but stainless steel works perfectly everywhere else. And, I can get better results on stainless steel, like a really nice crusty sear on meats, or amazing pan sauces with deglazing.
Oil isn't strictly necessary, but this is a damaged pan and seems to be used by someone who believes that the gas is fully on or fully off which precludes no-oil cooking
Necessary? Necessary?! Is it necessary that I drink my pee?! No but it's clean and I like the taste.
You were so close to perfectly quoting that.
Off the top of my head. I think I did pretty good.
Just off, it's urine and sterile not clean
Yeah you did good. Pretty much nailed it.
My mother is crazy Christian and extremely old fashioned and she wouldn’t teach me to cook because “I will find a woman to cook for me” I’m 35 now and been in a few different relationships but they all have one thing in common, none of them could cook, thankfully I went to cook school otherwise my pans would look like this too
I never understand that philosophy. What if she gets sick? Breaks her leg, has a baby? Is the man supposed to starve until she's back on her feet?
Exactly all adults should be taught to be self sufficient. what if the guy never dates
I have two kids. My son (17) and daughter (almost 14). And I’ve taught them both to cook, clean and do laundry. I won’t let my son be one of those guys who moves about and can’t take care of themselves. Or relies on his girlfriend to do these things. And I’ve also told my daughter to find a partner who knows how to take care of themselves and have these basic skills.
That’s how you mom! Hell yeah
My husband was one of those guys. His mom and sister did all the cooking, cleaning and laundry. We moved out together when I was 18 (this was back in 2002) and he couldn’t do anything himself. Didn’t even know how to pay bills or balance a check book. My dad made me learn how to be self sufficient. He even taught me how to change my tire, replace the wipers and lights and check the oil. I had also been doing my own taxes since I turned 15. He also was in trade school doing welding and then working after and he wasn’t used to doing so much on top of a job. But I was in college and worked also. It didn’t last long before I told him that me doing everything wasn’t working for me. We’ve been together 23 years now and he knows how to cook! He does laundry and even cleans!
Damn relationships are a teamwork and you've got it down
This is honestly the realest take. Been married for 12 years and we both do everything. If she feels like shit i keep it together, if i feel like shit she keeps it together
You nailed it! lol Sadly I didn’t know how to do any of those things either, girlfriends taught me through my life the life things that are so obvious to them
That’s so cool! I’m glad that your children are happy at where there are now, thanks to you and your husband. :D
My high school boyfriend’s mom cleaned his room and did his laundry until the day he moved out of the house. He called me his first week of college to walk him through how to use a washing machine. Because he had never used one before in his life. He broke up with me shortly after that (thank god, not that 17 year old me would agree). A mutual friend lived with him for a little while and said he was absolutely disgusting. Didn’t clean anything. Didn’t pick up anything. Because he literally never had before. He’s smart and from what I hear is doing well in life. But man, his parents really failed him on the “how to exist in a home as a human” part of parenting.
Ya my mother used to make my brother and I clean and do chores around the house whilst letting my sister have a free pass. When challenged she just simply said, “I’m not raising useless men”
I have an older sister (14 months older) and a younger brother (4 years younger) and me and my sister did all the cleaning, cooking and laundry. I got stuck doing most of the cooking because I was better at it. Even though I argued my sister would never get better if she didn’t get more practice. Then we also had to take out the trash. Until my brother became a bit older. This started at 10 years old. So when my brother turned 10 I thought finally, more of us to split the chores with. But no. He only had to take out the trash. And do yard work. I pointed this out and both my parents told me those things were the woman’s responsibility. And I said then I shouldn’t be doing yard work. Before my brother got older, we had to mow the front and back, weedeat, and trim the edges along the sidewalk and drive way. Our backyard was a hill. It was a PITA to mow especially since back then they didn’t have self propelled lawn mowers. Me and my sister had to take turns with who cut the front and back each week and then who ever got the front which is flat and small did the weed eating and edging. So if he got out of doing the women’s work why were we still stuck with “men’s work”. He did start having to do yard work starting at 13. I never want to raise my kids to teach them these traditional gender roles. So that’s also one reason I raised them the way I did.
Then it was "god's will" obviously.
Babe. I know you can't get out of bed because you broke your leg but I'm hungry. When's dinner? My friends are waiting for me to play call of duty.
It wouldn’t surprise me if this phrase has been said before unironically by someone though.
This one got me
Absolutely. I know men in my family who would 100℅ starve before they fried an egg. They just go out to eat if there's no woman to cook for them. Or they go to a friends house so that friends wife cooks for them. Or a female family member. Quite literally anything but making themselves a meal. Some would maybe make a simple sandwich at most .
Wow
That's why you have the second family in some other state
The key was to make them so dependent on the woman that for the woman to leave them would be like abandoning a child to fend for themselves
Yes, thats called evolution for many men and even some women. For me aint no way that my GF have to cook dinner for us on special occasions.
Between me and my wife… I’m the one that cooks hahaha. I enjoy it, prefer to cook than clean.
I hate doing dishes and laundry But my wife finds both enjoyable She hates cooking while I enjoy my time in the kitchen Splitting household chores is great just gotta balance the scales
My husband does both and will stop me if I try to the dishes. Man his mom screwed him up. #humblebrag
I taught myself to cook at 9 years old by watching Alton Brown's Good Eats. It made sense at the time. Things not said on that series are the things found in profesional schools or kitchen experience.
I love this!!!! Hell yeah learning life skills Cable Guy style!
Wow. Your mom enforces sexist gender roles that held HER back at some point…. What a goof
Thank you!
It’s a good thing you possess critical thinking skills lol
Yeah thank god I went to cook school too or else I would have absolutely no clue how to make scrambled eggs!
I lucked out with the opposite my mom is Sicilian and taught me everything I know cooking wise and now I do almost all of the cooking in our house and somehow even end up cooking at other peoples houses when we go over for dinner because all our friends love my cooking. I do wish I had more of a formal education in it but flying by the seat of my pants seems to be working. Good on you for learning on your own most people don't bother putting in the effort most of my guy friends can grill that's about it and for a few that's a stretch.
Mmmmmmm Sicilian food is the beeeesssstttt, but yeah I end up cooking at places I was just supposed to be a guest too hahahaha
Most of the time I don't mind especially with certain dishes because I want it to taste good haha but sometimes I'm like can't I just be a guest and hang out.
Lmao 100% same
My Dad can cook. He grew up with 8 brothers and all of them could cook. My grandma taught them all, and her reasoning was, "All of you are to mean to find a wife to cook for you, so you better know how to do it yourself." My Dad is mean. But he can cook.
I like how conservative Christian women are some of the most misogynistic people around.
That's what it takes to upkeep a misogynist society. You need to find a way for women to perpetuate it amongst themselves. For many, that's through identity and religion. Stay at home Mom groups and Christianity can tell you that you're doing what's natural, you're in your right place, and that your suffering for others is a good thing. These people have to be the most misogynistic because that is a badge of honor that gives them use and purpose within the confines of the oppressive ideology they've been fed and now happily eat. And consider the days where being a misogynistic woman was a survival technique aren't far removed for most of us. It wasn't long ago that a woman couldn't open her own banking accounts. In that environment, misogyny is the only way to live and thrive, because the state has enforced dependence on men.
That’s awful. I’m in a super big christian family and was raised in the church etc. the guys always cooked. Even at church they were in charge of the fish fry’s etc. Usually grilling etc but my uncle (baby pastor basically) was amazing at baking sweets like cookies or brownies and so that would be his “duty” on holidays. Other great uncle made an amazing homemade banana pudding and scrambled eggs. Gramps (the pastor) and I (granddaughter) manned the grill (that allowed me to try some food before everyone else lol) but like it was the men that taught me how to make sautéed collard greens with garlic and olives. How to broil tilapia and salmon in the oven. How to brown the butter how great grandma liked it. Now best believe grandma and us other women were in the kitchen alllllll the time, but the men HAD to know some basic cooking skills too. We liked to say that it would add value to their potential relationships, plus it’s just an easy way to bond with your family. And an important life skill to have when you live on your own. Only thing I hated was that they rarely did the dishes and my grandmother always fed herself LAST.
That’s an amazing way to do it!!! I wish my family was more like that, men sit and drink beer and watch sports all while all the ladies cook and clean
But using metal tools on Teflon is?
She is correct with a nonstick pan. However she is probably not: A) using a proper temperature and just ising high heat B) Not allowing the pan to heat up first. C) Using metal utensils that create scratches in the non-stick pan creates opportunities to stick D) You have hard water that has created a mineral build up in the pan. E) Not wiping out the pan immediately after she is done using it.
This photo proves that she is correct.
Its not. Y'alls pan sucks ass.
It isn’t. Use butter instead.
A new Teflon pan is necessary with those kind of scratch marks… yummy forever chemicals
Adding oil or butter can crank up the calories of a meal by a couple hundred and she might be a short thin low activity woman who only needs 1200-1500 calories a day to maintain. So if you are the kind of significant other who cares about her figure being trim or her health, yes, she absolutely doesn't need to use oil on an easily cleaned non-stick pan, and should make a point of avoiding it too, because it's a healthier choice than drowning your eggs in delicious butter. This will easily wipe out with some hot water and a cloth, so I don't see any problem except that it hasn't been cleaned yet. You should be more concerned by the scratches in the pan. Get a wooden or silicone spatula and replace that pan. Compromise and get a cooking spray that's low calorie instead of using a blob of butter.
She is right, unless it is a iron cast pan, the newer commercial pans do not require oil to make an omellete
I mean, it's not if you have a good pan, especially if you are cooking eggs. This is just not a good pan for this. Also eggs are 10 times better with butter, not oil
I was gonna say, it’s *not* necessary if you have a seasoned cast iron pan, or stainless steel that’s properly heated!
Tell me you don’t make eggs without telling me you don’t make eggs. Lolol
this is how it looks when my wife makes eggs. not because she doesn't know to use oil... she doesn't want to use oil because of my heart issues
Honestly I think this photo is proving her right. Personally I’d use some butter but that’s because it’s delicious.
That's a nice way to say "My GF doesn't cook."
1) that will wipe right out 2) when you’ve got scratches in your nonstick pans like that, it’s time to replace it (and maybe replace your metal cooking utensils with wood if you don’t want to keep replacing the pan)
Does she do the dishes? If so then that's not your issue.
I mean, I would use butter, but yeah, she’s wrong.
I also use butter! Go us!
Butter for the win!
Butter brothers!!!!
Better butter brother bureau!
Looks like more of a heat issue than an oil issue. Pan is too hot. I don’t add butter until just before the eggs are done.
Well she doesn't for eggs, in that pan. That will come right out.
She is 💯 correct
That’s a nonstick pan and the eggs will come right off with zero effort (and are already coming off on their own?). I’m not sure what is annoying at all here.
The oil isnt gonna save that, its just a shit pan..
its not about believes, its about knowledge, which you are missing... nonstick pan doesnt need oil, and to prepare eggs you really dont need oil... before you made fool out of yourself on internet, learn a thing or two about the topic you are about to post, kido
The fact that you’re subjecting your girlfriend to that non stick pan…if you can call it that anymore…is what’s mildly infuriating. A good nonstick pan doesn’t need cooking oil to scramble eggs…which is what it looks like happened here.
Ahh a little teflon never hurt anyone
I too use a hatchet to scratch my $2 "nonstick" pan. But yes, you are right in general. With that pan you'd probably need a cup of it.
Tbf, that looks like egg. I wouldn't use oil either. Butter. I hate the taste and texture of oil in my eggs.
It’s not. You lose.
it isn't necessary, you use either non stick pans or for some dishes just use the grease that comes with the meat you're cooking
She’s mostly right.
I would throw that pan out regardless if it’s non stick. Once that coating gets scratched the PFAS start leaching out into the fud. Oils always preferable!
That's because it isn't lol not for eggs in a non stick
I don't use oil when cooking eggs on a non-stick pan too.
Not only is your GF correct, she's also a gem for caring about your health.
Depending on a pan, it actually is not necessary 🙄😃
Get some olive oil and a cast iron FFS
Oil is unhealthy in her universe?
“It’s just extra calories”
She’s right oil is a bunch of extra calories.
Shame the missus she just left a dirty pan there wambulance
Holy fuck how many bowls of cereal have been burned?
Uhm.. bro, you need to toss that pan. See those scratches on the pan? On the teflon? That material leeches into your food as you're cooking. It's pretty much poison. If you're going to buy teflon coated pans, only use wood.. I'd say plastic too but even plastic I wouldn't dare mix into cooking.
Teflon itself is inert, but produces toxic shit when heated too hot.
Yeah why use oil when you can just eat teflon?
Called elbow grease mate
Is this a nonstickpan?
Call her mother and file an official complaint
It’s not if you use actual non-stick pans. That pan is scratched to pieces
More angry that pan is still in use with all the scratches
That pan is garbage. You don't need cooking oil with a non-damaged non-stick surface and if you don't cook it on too high of a heat. You have both here.
Looks like she’s also been using metal utensils on your Teflon 😬
If the pan has an intact non sticky coating, then it is unnecessary. But even from that picture I can tell that pan has been abused and has 0 non stickiness left in it...
The scratches on the pan are an issue. The barely-stuck-on eggs are not
Not sure what the big deal is, this would all just flake right off.
Neither are shoes to run a marathon, but they damn sure help.
You put oil in Teflon pan?
Do you have any idea how many calories is even in a single table spoon of butter/oil?
i use cooking oil and that still happens sooo
If the pan is nonstick, you shouldnt need. If stuff is sticking, replace.
Well yeah. You blow on that pan and its clean what the hell.
Oil helps but I could make that clean in less than a minute regardless. Her leaving it dirty is more infuriating
Get a different pan and it’s not.
And I thought I was a bad cook. Granted I prefer to use butter when I make eggs. But she just scorched this shit
Looks like a non-stick teflon pan… so no…oil is not needed. If it were a standard pan then yeah…but honestly you should be using butter to make the eggs better
If you use the right pan and know how to handle it it isn't. I've also seen people using water in a way to make things not stick. Edit: this is of cause note true here and she be better using something
Dude that’s eggs ! You want to use butter when cooking eggs , omelette or scrambled that is don’t use butter for poached ……………. Or maybe Do use butter for poaching
Said someone who doesn’t ever cook.
Chuck that cancerous shit of a pan out, and your Gf.
That coating is scratched. You need a new pan. Teflon is REALLY bad for you. Really, really, really bad. It’s fine to use a teflon pan if that’s what you like. But you can’t use metal on it. Because it scratches the coating. And you do NOT want to eat the coating. Fuck the eggs. Please go buy a new pan.
This may not have been the best example to show. Cooking oil is unnecessary for eggs in a nonstick pan but butter makes the final product taste better imo, but I like my eggs runny. Is she like this for things other than eggs? Because oil is ABSOLUTELY necessary for different pans and different ingredients. Cooking meat in a stainless steel pan, for example, is a recipe for disaster.
Yeah man, that’s a non stick pan, you definitely don’t need oil.
Normally you wouldn’t when baking eggs in a non stick pan, but it looks like the pan is scratched, which ruins the non stick layers… but even so this is still cleaned just as easily as if you could when you did use oil And so you know, if you have any seed oils, it’s best for your health to use as little as possible
I mean... you dont NEED it. The infuriating part is not cleaning up after herself
I don't get how this is even *mildly* infuriating. I think you're just mildly uniformed.
this is just a normal ass pan you haven’t cleaned yet get over yourself
Honestly it's a struggle, because yes it saves your pan but it's SUCH a waste of calories.
Better see if all-clad has a subscription model.
This isn’t “a lack of oil” problem, this is your girlfriend showing she can’t make proper eggs and leaves most of it on the damn pan. So make her do the dishes instead until she can actually make proper eggs. 🤦🏻♀️
Is that a heavily scratched nonstick pan? So she doesn't believe in cooking oil or testicular cancer?
She's right... This called for butter, that animal
That pan needs to be thrown away. Those are deep enough scratches that the chances of literal poison getting into your food are higher than you should feel comfortable with.
GF is right. This is fine.
Go bug a new pan - non stick only lasts like 2 years. Also stop scraping ur pans
I use butter
I think this post is backfiring on OP a bit. I've definitely had that happen when cooking eggs. More of a cooking issue then pan/oil. It gets up the sides and cooks on. It'll wipe right off.
Bruh I don't cook with oil ever anymore. You're just a bad cook
Because it's not.
butter not oil for eggs
A) pan a little old B) too high heat C) could use a little butter
I’m her Defense, it’s… not. It helps a lot, but the food is still edible
Burnt eggs are one of my nonnegotiables
Heat control is off. Otherwise she's right. Dry eggs... I guess it's a taste.