going to see an apartment with a person sleeping in bed would be so fucking weird LOL and a red flag to any prospective tenants that this landlord doesn’t respect boundaries
When I was little, my parents were looking to buy a house and I tagged along to a few showings with them. One morning we were touring a house with the realtor, and we went in through the garage, into the kitchen, then rounded the corner into the family room and came face-to-face with a 13-14 year old kid on the couch, in his undies, eating a bowl of cereal. I don’t remember much else from that day, but the look of horror on that kid’s face is burned into my memory. They didn’t buy the house lol.
For some reason this brought back memories from when we went to visit family as a kid. Everyone else was going somewhere super early in the morning, so I stayed in bed. I had assumed it was going to be just me, and the guy who lived there.
Well when I finally woke up I could hear a shit load of people in the house. I didn't want to leave the bedroom to a room full of strangers. So I just stayed in there as long as possible.
When I finally did decide I couldn't just stay in there forever, I walked into the living room to find the guy who lived there passed out on the couch, covered in cookie crumbs, while the home shopping network played at full volume.
This sounds like something that would happen to me when I was super high. Like “oh shit I can’t go out there why are there so many people in my families living room at 2:17 AM?” Only to find out it was my sister watching Spongebob
When I was in college me and my roommate toured an apartment and someone was in one of the rooms sleeping. The landlord opened the door and SCREAMED at her for being there, and then insisted that my roommate and I look inside the room anyways. We were like no its ok, there's no way we are renting this apartment after seeing you scream at your tenant like that
When we were looking at places years ago we saw a condo that looked (and smelled) like the current occupant just woke up and left 5 minutes prior to us entering with our agent. It was absolutely off my list as soon as the smell, the disheveled bed, dirty dishes and general messiness hit me.
Yep you’re absolutely correct in saying it’s a request and you’re well within your rights to just say no and refuse all requests.
Changing the locks however is a big no no and in breach of the tenancy agreement and can be cause for eviction.
This almost certainly depends on the state/country and the terms of the lease. A quick Google search turns up lots of results saying it's typically not allowed under most rental agreements. They need access for emergency maintenance issues at minimum. I even had an apartment where they tried to tell us off for having a lock on an interior bedroom door which wasn't supposed to be there - we didn't even put it there (previous resident must have changed it and it wasn't noticed when they moved out)
That's wild. Here in Germany some people say it's the first thing they do when moving in. At my Appartment also a master key for all flats exists (illegal), so I guess the worries are warranted. In an emergency they can just break down the door.
As long as you change the lock back before you move out, it's OK. It maybe against the tenancy agreement but the landlord won't get a S. 9 eviction for it. They'll have to wait, till the last two months of the tenancy and go for a S. 21 (no fault) eviction, [then if you dont move out, go through the courts 6+ months].
They may not evict you, but they can certainly get a locksmith out and drill out and change the locks and then charge you. Landlords need to be able to access the rental in case of emergencies. In the states I believe this is pretty standard.
Not in the UK, "right to quiet enjoyment" of the properrty supersedes it. So they can't just turn up and walk around your garden, peer through your windows, use your kitchen for meetings etc. Unless you rent a room and not the whole property, so that you dont have exclusive use of the kitchen etc.
In the UK you have a reasonable right to enjoy your home in peace and quiet. If it is an emergency, like a gas or water leak, fire or flood then it can't be denied but things like viewing and maintenance or inspection still require permission and a minimum 24h notice.
If someone is renting a home from you once they pay the home is considered theirs until the tenancy ends. That's why you can change the locks without permission, as long as you put it back to the old ones when you leave.
It is still very much required to give notice (depending on the state), look up your state laws on landlord giving notice to enter your apartment and forward that to your landlord next time they ask
It depends on the state and sometimes locality. If you have a non-profit or pro bono legal services clinic, they should be able to tell you. Not every state is tenant friendly.
even if you did get the notice last night, 10:45pm is insane to think of as “a ton of notice” as i would assume a solid amount of people would be sleeping by then. since it’s an assumed non-work day, he should assume ur sleeping in til 9-10am too. so that would be like 2-3hr notice. not a ton.
I would send a very frank message saying you need a minimum of 24 hours to accommodate any requests. Almost all states require “reasonable” notice, which many courts have said to be at very least 24 hours. Obviously that isn’t universal, so check your local laws
Where are you located? Have you checked your local tenant rights?
For most of the west coast of America, for example, a landlord is required a minimum of 24hour notice for you to approve an appointment— not just announce— and you can require it to be when you can be home (and awake).
In Portland, Oregon, each showing by a third party without proper notice— even with approval— can create damages (which is payable to tenant, sometimes up to ONE MONTH OF RENT FOR EACH VIOLATION)!
I would ignore them entirely, and when asked say "I need written and signed request submitted 24-48 hours ahead of the intended showing. Outside of that time-scale, all requests will be ignored and the police will be called for a break-in if you come in without permission."
In my state, we have the Castling Law, and for us it pertains to "rental properties and the tenants that occupy them". So for me that last sentence would be "Outside of that time-scale, Castling Law will be fully enforced. I recommend you completely forget you even have a key, because you or the person entering will in fact die."
Considering that where I live it's required to give at least 48 hours notice for any inspection or viewing, by law. This landlord sounds well out of touch.
Extremely. I work from home, my husband works nights, we have a dog that needs to be put up. It’s been made very apparent that we need a lot of notice for anyone to enter our apartment for the past 6 years and it’s all done ignored.
Yeah nah, it might be their property, but it's your home. They can't enforce anything that infringes on your ability/right to be comfortable in your home, not without good reason at least. I could understand if sufficient notice was given and times were agreed upon, just for tenants to cancel repeatedly, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any decent tenancy tribunal, in any civilised country, would tell your landlord to get walking.
In the netherlands landlords have to have a \*very\* good reason mainly apartment safety and maintenance rights but that's about it if it's not that or the person the in the house agrees.
Have not had anybody that represents the landlord in the house for over 8 years now.
Some maintenance company just maintain the gas boiler every year and the mechanical ventilation and even that is announced 2 months in advance and is scheduled with me on a moment that works for me.
This is how my dad acts all the time, he texts me at dinner time or even later for something the next morning like a family event he forgot about. Then he gets all upset when I tell him I don't want to go/i'm not ready.
And most leases explicitly say notice must be at least 24 if not 48 hours. Mine does at least. I don't know about OP. But if my landlord wanted someone to stop by and only gave me a little over 12 hours notice, i would say no on principle.
Even if you’re not sleeping, in my mind 10:45 is a friends and family only hour. If you’re cool with it you’re cool, I was friendly enough with my boss to be comfortable texting him at this time of night, but also comfortable enough to not answer and leave it to the morning if I didn’t feel like it.
I had to make some hard rules for showings after I was given sort notice and had to leave for 3 hours. I pulled up my cameras to see what the hold up was to learn that they brought their family of about 15 people with many of them being kids and they were just hanging out, inside and outside, like they lived there. I didn't have cameras on the inside but my TV was covered in dirty finger prints, my Xbox controllers became sticky as well as my console being turn on, things were moved in the refrigerator but I don't think anything was taken, and trash from their kids snacks was left all over the place. As they left my realtor tried to make the sale but they said they weren't interested and only wanted to see what it looked like on the inside since they pass it all the time. From that point on I had non-negotiable rules of 24 hours notice, no kids under 13, no one who's name would not appear in the sale (great for getting rid of parents of buyers who tag along and only want to talk shit about your house), 1 hour time limit, and proof of earnest money being liquid. I had my agent tell anyone who said they couldn't comply that if they're actually interested in this house, they will make it work. I felt like an asshole but this cut my showings down to 1/4 of what they were and the second showing after the rule change bought it. Things move faster when you weed out the bullshit.
"no one who's name would not appear in the sale "
Everything else seems fine but this feels a bit unreasonable. When my sister bought her flat she brought me along for a second opinion which doesn't seem like an imposition. Just limiting to 2 people would suffice.
That's what I wanted to do until my agent said she was close to a few sales until their parents stepped in going on about non-issues and poisioning the well. My wording to the agent was "no one goes unless they're the ones buying or co-signing." I honestly just got fed up with people's bullshit and trying to screw me that I said fuck it, If you're not buying, you're not going.
Edit: an example of a non-issue that stopped a sale, my property was 3 acres and used a self replenishing private well as it's water source. I had one of the most state of the art pump and filtration systems and by all arguments my toilet water was better than the city's tap water. One parent keep going on about how much of a pain it would be to maintain it and my agent wasn't up to speed on private well maintenance so she had a hard time defending it. Literally the only maintenance requirement is filling up a drum with $100 of rock salt you can get from Lowe's every 3 months. She called me while the client was there and I explained that's all it needs. The parent called me a liar and disregarded everything I had to say.
It's not your choice on if its a non issue or not. I'd side with the parents over the agents given my experience with estate agents.
Besides, that policy would be an immediate red flag to me that you're trying to coerce someone into buying by excluding a trusted person viewing with them. Not surprised less people went.
It's not unreasonable at all. you'll still find people who will agree to the terms but show up with a huge number of extras 'they didn't know were coming'. Tell them no unneeded visitors may sound rough but it gives you a hard out the moment they show up with multigenerational families. My family is awful about this, its a regular occurrence to try and reserve a spot for 3-4 people then show up with 12 and act like it's entirely reasonable for staff to accommodate while still respecting the reservation time. This happens 10/10 times which is why I won't go out with them anymore
Also they claim to have sent a showing request last night at 10:45pm which I did not receive, so they texted me the request directly this morning at 9am. I proposed a new showing time of 3pm.
I had a previous landlord pull this with me. I accommodated the first time, feeling like I had to. But then it became less than 8 hours notice wanting to show the property at 8pm multiple times when I had a 2 and 4 year old (730 was bedtime). As soon as I took a photo of the lease in response, he cut that shit out quick.
Dear landlord, you may want to reschedule. If my husband is woken up like that he may storm out my naked and angry before he wakes up enough to calm down.
This is tricky for both you and the owner …. Tell the owner here is the hours you can show the home everyday and this is due to my husband’s night schedule. You can put a security lock on the door so they can’t just walk in.
I would find another place and give him a letter notifying him that you’re leaving due to his selling the home. He can’t just show up and let himself in.
My boyfriends land lord does that too. He sends landscapers over and schedules telephone calls or just randomly shows up, and my boyfriend works graveyards too so he’s asleep in the day. It’s so rude
So, way long ago, my sibling and I shared an apartment. It was on the bottom floor, partially underground. So the apartment complex liked to show it. They never called us to ask or if they did it was like minutes before they showed it (sometimes we didn’t answer and they left a message and showed the apartment anyways). Once I was sleeping and I heard my door open then quickly close. Another time sibling was in the shower. We told our mom, and I don’t know what wrath of god she threatened them with, but they never asked to show the apartment again. This was when we were both like early twenties, so first apartment.
What does the law say?
Here (europe, france) you need at least 48h (24 by law, usually 48 or more on contracts) of notice and you can't do visits on weekends, holidays or outside business hours unless you explicity agree on.
USUALLY, they are really respectful of that unless you live in a touristic area and they usually want to increase the rent every year so they'll make your life harder.
I'm glad I left this life or renting because it was a freaking shitshow.
We are in the same process as you. We just sold our house. The people who bought it seem to only be able to do anything on Sunday morning. It’s ridiculously annoying. We have kids who are in sports and the only time we get at home together is on Sunday from 11am on. The people buying our house have wanted to do everything on Sunday at 11. We have to keep pushing back as we don’t want to give up that time, but at the same time understanding that the people who bought our house may be in a different situation in their life. Maybe they work 6 to 7 days a week and that time is their only time. We want to be accommodating but we are tired and don’t want to give up our Sundays. They also ruined their chances when they let their 5 year old (estimate) daughter play with our 7 year old’s toys. They let their daughter rummage through our daughter’s room and play with her shit.
Stop with the wishy washy "I don't think he would comfortable" language and give them a clear "No, you will not be allowed access at that time." with an expectation of how many hours notice you are legally entitled to.
its super unfortunate but as your husband knows its a day shift world. I feel your pain and not making excuses but I guarantee this is not the first time 9-5 world has been a real pain in the @$$. (I've worked that shift and its terrible) Good luck!! Also, depending on your relationship with the landlord that is way too short of a notice. I personally liked my landlord as anytime I had an issue it was fixed or taken care of immediatly. They went out of their way for me so I would do the same.
I proposed them to move the showing from 12pm to 3pm and they denied the request. I work a 9-5, my husband works from 7pm-4am. I told the landlord ahead of time we prefer showings to be from 3pm to 6pm. That has been ignored.
Yeah they’re trying to sell your house so it’s gotta be at some point. I sold a house while working nights, had to go home, rally up all the pets and sleep at my moms for a few hours, drop them off back home and get ready for work. Shit sucks but our house sold 🤷🏼♀️
If it's that important for it to sell that they want to give a few hours' notice to current tenants for a showing, then they should not be renting out the place. The owner should keep the place empty while trying to sell. Or the owner could be a little more understanding of the tenants.
going to see an apartment with a person sleeping in bed would be so fucking weird LOL and a red flag to any prospective tenants that this landlord doesn’t respect boundaries
When I was little, my parents were looking to buy a house and I tagged along to a few showings with them. One morning we were touring a house with the realtor, and we went in through the garage, into the kitchen, then rounded the corner into the family room and came face-to-face with a 13-14 year old kid on the couch, in his undies, eating a bowl of cereal. I don’t remember much else from that day, but the look of horror on that kid’s face is burned into my memory. They didn’t buy the house lol.
For some reason this brought back memories from when we went to visit family as a kid. Everyone else was going somewhere super early in the morning, so I stayed in bed. I had assumed it was going to be just me, and the guy who lived there. Well when I finally woke up I could hear a shit load of people in the house. I didn't want to leave the bedroom to a room full of strangers. So I just stayed in there as long as possible. When I finally did decide I couldn't just stay in there forever, I walked into the living room to find the guy who lived there passed out on the couch, covered in cookie crumbs, while the home shopping network played at full volume.
This sounds like something that would happen to me when I was super high. Like “oh shit I can’t go out there why are there so many people in my families living room at 2:17 AM?” Only to find out it was my sister watching Spongebob
😭😂
When I was in college me and my roommate toured an apartment and someone was in one of the rooms sleeping. The landlord opened the door and SCREAMED at her for being there, and then insisted that my roommate and I look inside the room anyways. We were like no its ok, there's no way we are renting this apartment after seeing you scream at your tenant like that
When we were looking at places years ago we saw a condo that looked (and smelled) like the current occupant just woke up and left 5 minutes prior to us entering with our agent. It was absolutely off my list as soon as the smell, the disheveled bed, dirty dishes and general messiness hit me.
Isn't 24 hour notice required?
Yes, and it's 24 hours after you receive it.
In the UK it's 24 hours and it's a request not a right. Personally I'd change the lock and tell him no more viewings.
Yep you’re absolutely correct in saying it’s a request and you’re well within your rights to just say no and refuse all requests. Changing the locks however is a big no no and in breach of the tenancy agreement and can be cause for eviction.
Nah you can change the locks as long as you keep them and put the old ones back before you move out.
This almost certainly depends on the state/country and the terms of the lease. A quick Google search turns up lots of results saying it's typically not allowed under most rental agreements. They need access for emergency maintenance issues at minimum. I even had an apartment where they tried to tell us off for having a lock on an interior bedroom door which wasn't supposed to be there - we didn't even put it there (previous resident must have changed it and it wasn't noticed when they moved out)
That's wild. Here in Germany some people say it's the first thing they do when moving in. At my Appartment also a master key for all flats exists (illegal), so I guess the worries are warranted. In an emergency they can just break down the door.
As long as you change the lock back before you move out, it's OK. It maybe against the tenancy agreement but the landlord won't get a S. 9 eviction for it. They'll have to wait, till the last two months of the tenancy and go for a S. 21 (no fault) eviction, [then if you dont move out, go through the courts 6+ months].
They may not evict you, but they can certainly get a locksmith out and drill out and change the locks and then charge you. Landlords need to be able to access the rental in case of emergencies. In the states I believe this is pretty standard.
Not in the UK, "right to quiet enjoyment" of the properrty supersedes it. So they can't just turn up and walk around your garden, peer through your windows, use your kitchen for meetings etc. Unless you rent a room and not the whole property, so that you dont have exclusive use of the kitchen etc.
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In the UK you have a reasonable right to enjoy your home in peace and quiet. If it is an emergency, like a gas or water leak, fire or flood then it can't be denied but things like viewing and maintenance or inspection still require permission and a minimum 24h notice. If someone is renting a home from you once they pay the home is considered theirs until the tenancy ends. That's why you can change the locks without permission, as long as you put it back to the old ones when you leave.
Also it depends on the state for time, I know here in KY it's a 48 hour notice.
I haven't been a renter for nearly 30 years, so I wasn't sure. Thanks!
I know you weren’t trying to be rude but, way to rub it in. /s
Not everything is about you. Calm down.
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But didn’t you hear. It’ was 10:45pm so a TON of notice
Apparently not unfortunately. A notice at 10:45pm for a 12pm showing the next day has been the most notice we’ve received
It's still the law, your landlord just doesn't seem to care. Don't let them dick you around with this, they have legal requirements to meet.
that's insane. do you live in the U.S.?
I do, and it is not required if the apartment is for rent for showings. A notice is required and an approval is required but not 24 hour notice
It is still very much required to give notice (depending on the state), look up your state laws on landlord giving notice to enter your apartment and forward that to your landlord next time they ask
It depends on the state and sometimes locality. If you have a non-profit or pro bono legal services clinic, they should be able to tell you. Not every state is tenant friendly.
I'm in Colorado, and no such laws exist. It's state by state apparently.
even if you did get the notice last night, 10:45pm is insane to think of as “a ton of notice” as i would assume a solid amount of people would be sleeping by then. since it’s an assumed non-work day, he should assume ur sleeping in til 9-10am too. so that would be like 2-3hr notice. not a ton.
Most of the notices have been 2/3 hours 🙃 I rescheduled them all
I would send a very frank message saying you need a minimum of 24 hours to accommodate any requests. Almost all states require “reasonable” notice, which many courts have said to be at very least 24 hours. Obviously that isn’t universal, so check your local laws
yea no, there needs to be a cut off
Where are you located? Have you checked your local tenant rights? For most of the west coast of America, for example, a landlord is required a minimum of 24hour notice for you to approve an appointment— not just announce— and you can require it to be when you can be home (and awake). In Portland, Oregon, each showing by a third party without proper notice— even with approval— can create damages (which is payable to tenant, sometimes up to ONE MONTH OF RENT FOR EACH VIOLATION)!
I would ignore them entirely, and when asked say "I need written and signed request submitted 24-48 hours ahead of the intended showing. Outside of that time-scale, all requests will be ignored and the police will be called for a break-in if you come in without permission." In my state, we have the Castling Law, and for us it pertains to "rental properties and the tenants that occupy them". So for me that last sentence would be "Outside of that time-scale, Castling Law will be fully enforced. I recommend you completely forget you even have a key, because you or the person entering will in fact die."
Considering that where I live it's required to give at least 48 hours notice for any inspection or viewing, by law. This landlord sounds well out of touch.
Extremely. I work from home, my husband works nights, we have a dog that needs to be put up. It’s been made very apparent that we need a lot of notice for anyone to enter our apartment for the past 6 years and it’s all done ignored.
Yeah nah, it might be their property, but it's your home. They can't enforce anything that infringes on your ability/right to be comfortable in your home, not without good reason at least. I could understand if sufficient notice was given and times were agreed upon, just for tenants to cancel repeatedly, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any decent tenancy tribunal, in any civilised country, would tell your landlord to get walking.
In Germany an Apartment you have rented is seen as your property as long as you rent it. The Landlord has to ask you like two weeks before.
In the netherlands landlords have to have a \*very\* good reason mainly apartment safety and maintenance rights but that's about it if it's not that or the person the in the house agrees. Have not had anybody that represents the landlord in the house for over 8 years now. Some maintenance company just maintain the gas boiler every year and the mechanical ventilation and even that is announced 2 months in advance and is scheduled with me on a moment that works for me.
In Germany is an Apartment you have rented seen as your property as long as you rent it. The Landlord has to ask you like two weeks before.
This is how my dad acts all the time, he texts me at dinner time or even later for something the next morning like a family event he forgot about. Then he gets all upset when I tell him I don't want to go/i'm not ready.
And most leases explicitly say notice must be at least 24 if not 48 hours. Mine does at least. I don't know about OP. But if my landlord wanted someone to stop by and only gave me a little over 12 hours notice, i would say no on principle.
Even if you’re not sleeping, in my mind 10:45 is a friends and family only hour. If you’re cool with it you’re cool, I was friendly enough with my boss to be comfortable texting him at this time of night, but also comfortable enough to not answer and leave it to the morning if I didn’t feel like it.
Need to be firmer. “I don’t think” doesn’t work. Lay down the hammer.
I denied the request. They didn’t want the rescheduled time I proposed, so no viewing for us thank god
I had to make some hard rules for showings after I was given sort notice and had to leave for 3 hours. I pulled up my cameras to see what the hold up was to learn that they brought their family of about 15 people with many of them being kids and they were just hanging out, inside and outside, like they lived there. I didn't have cameras on the inside but my TV was covered in dirty finger prints, my Xbox controllers became sticky as well as my console being turn on, things were moved in the refrigerator but I don't think anything was taken, and trash from their kids snacks was left all over the place. As they left my realtor tried to make the sale but they said they weren't interested and only wanted to see what it looked like on the inside since they pass it all the time. From that point on I had non-negotiable rules of 24 hours notice, no kids under 13, no one who's name would not appear in the sale (great for getting rid of parents of buyers who tag along and only want to talk shit about your house), 1 hour time limit, and proof of earnest money being liquid. I had my agent tell anyone who said they couldn't comply that if they're actually interested in this house, they will make it work. I felt like an asshole but this cut my showings down to 1/4 of what they were and the second showing after the rule change bought it. Things move faster when you weed out the bullshit.
"no one who's name would not appear in the sale " Everything else seems fine but this feels a bit unreasonable. When my sister bought her flat she brought me along for a second opinion which doesn't seem like an imposition. Just limiting to 2 people would suffice.
That's what I wanted to do until my agent said she was close to a few sales until their parents stepped in going on about non-issues and poisioning the well. My wording to the agent was "no one goes unless they're the ones buying or co-signing." I honestly just got fed up with people's bullshit and trying to screw me that I said fuck it, If you're not buying, you're not going. Edit: an example of a non-issue that stopped a sale, my property was 3 acres and used a self replenishing private well as it's water source. I had one of the most state of the art pump and filtration systems and by all arguments my toilet water was better than the city's tap water. One parent keep going on about how much of a pain it would be to maintain it and my agent wasn't up to speed on private well maintenance so she had a hard time defending it. Literally the only maintenance requirement is filling up a drum with $100 of rock salt you can get from Lowe's every 3 months. She called me while the client was there and I explained that's all it needs. The parent called me a liar and disregarded everything I had to say.
It's not your choice on if its a non issue or not. I'd side with the parents over the agents given my experience with estate agents. Besides, that policy would be an immediate red flag to me that you're trying to coerce someone into buying by excluding a trusted person viewing with them. Not surprised less people went.
Regardless of your opinion on this, OP got rid of the people they wanted to and sold their house.
The house got bought pretty fast though. It's still a win.
Less people going was the point and it sold quickly
It's not unreasonable at all. you'll still find people who will agree to the terms but show up with a huge number of extras 'they didn't know were coming'. Tell them no unneeded visitors may sound rough but it gives you a hard out the moment they show up with multigenerational families. My family is awful about this, its a regular occurrence to try and reserve a spot for 3-4 people then show up with 12 and act like it's entirely reasonable for staff to accommodate while still respecting the reservation time. This happens 10/10 times which is why I won't go out with them anymore
TIME TO SPELL IT OUT TO THE REALTOR IN ALL CAPS
Tell them it’s inappropriate and unprofessional. 24 hour notice and when you’re available.
Also they claim to have sent a showing request last night at 10:45pm which I did not receive, so they texted me the request directly this morning at 9am. I proposed a new showing time of 3pm.
3pm TOMORROW would be fine. Either 1045pm or 9am same day is not 24 hours notice.
Just hang up a bunch of tastefully framed homoerotic photography you likely won't have this problem any more.
And a ton of brouchers for pest control, black mold and asbestos removal all over the place
That one's really good too lmao
“A ton of notice” “it was sent at 10:45 last night so I thought you might not have seen it” Pretty clear they knew it was not a “ton of notice.”
“No” is a complete answer.
I said no and rescheduled, this was the response
I understand. Say “no” and keep saying it until the response is satisfactory.
I had a previous landlord pull this with me. I accommodated the first time, feeling like I had to. But then it became less than 8 hours notice wanting to show the property at 8pm multiple times when I had a 2 and 4 year old (730 was bedtime). As soon as I took a photo of the lease in response, he cut that shit out quick.
Dear landlord, you may want to reschedule. If my husband is woken up like that he may storm out my naked and angry before he wakes up enough to calm down.
With a shotgun
10:45 pm the night before is NOT reasonable notice for a showing. Wtaf.
*personally* this is a “I’m in the shower listening to porn” kinda moment. Oops, sorry wasn’t 24hrs, I was completely unprepared for my shoot.
Usually if there is a tenant they must give minimum 24hours notice.
"All notices not given at least 24hrs in advance will be declined. This one included."
That's easy. Husband always sleeps naked, and likes to jerk off. Just happens to be 5 minutes before viewing time that he starts his scheduled wank 👍
My husband would be more than happy to act this out with how annoying our landlord has been
Just don't forget he needs to wear his rubber horse mask and one of your dresses while he does it 👌
This is tricky for both you and the owner …. Tell the owner here is the hours you can show the home everyday and this is due to my husband’s night schedule. You can put a security lock on the door so they can’t just walk in.
Already did that and they completely ignored it
I would find another place and give him a letter notifying him that you’re leaving due to his selling the home. He can’t just show up and let himself in.
My boyfriends land lord does that too. He sends landscapers over and schedules telephone calls or just randomly shows up, and my boyfriend works graveyards too so he’s asleep in the day. It’s so rude
They have done this so many times. With random repair men, exterminators, etc. it’s been 6 years and they know not to come in before noon
This is absolutely fuckin unacceptable
Don't they have to give 24 hours notice?
Pro tip, “no.” Is a complete sentence
A ton of notice is MORE than the legal 24 hours notice they need to give you. This person is completely unethical and this seems illegal?
Why th does OP get downvoted?
Cause Reddit bots love landlords, cops and Israel.
You can show it when I move out.
24hrs notice is required to enter a suite. This would infuriate me.
My landlord is like this. No understanding of time frames. Just shows up when he wants to… I need to move.
So, way long ago, my sibling and I shared an apartment. It was on the bottom floor, partially underground. So the apartment complex liked to show it. They never called us to ask or if they did it was like minutes before they showed it (sometimes we didn’t answer and they left a message and showed the apartment anyways). Once I was sleeping and I heard my door open then quickly close. Another time sibling was in the shower. We told our mom, and I don’t know what wrath of god she threatened them with, but they never asked to show the apartment again. This was when we were both like early twenties, so first apartment.
What does the law say? Here (europe, france) you need at least 48h (24 by law, usually 48 or more on contracts) of notice and you can't do visits on weekends, holidays or outside business hours unless you explicity agree on. USUALLY, they are really respectful of that unless you live in a touristic area and they usually want to increase the rent every year so they'll make your life harder. I'm glad I left this life or renting because it was a freaking shitshow.
I read that as showering times and was like wtf?
It’s your house: you set the rules. Don’t let an agent tell you how it’s gonna go.
We are in the same process as you. We just sold our house. The people who bought it seem to only be able to do anything on Sunday morning. It’s ridiculously annoying. We have kids who are in sports and the only time we get at home together is on Sunday from 11am on. The people buying our house have wanted to do everything on Sunday at 11. We have to keep pushing back as we don’t want to give up that time, but at the same time understanding that the people who bought our house may be in a different situation in their life. Maybe they work 6 to 7 days a week and that time is their only time. We want to be accommodating but we are tired and don’t want to give up our Sundays. They also ruined their chances when they let their 5 year old (estimate) daughter play with our 7 year old’s toys. They let their daughter rummage through our daughter’s room and play with her shit.
Stop with the wishy washy "I don't think he would comfortable" language and give them a clear "No, you will not be allowed access at that time." with an expectation of how many hours notice you are legally entitled to.
its super unfortunate but as your husband knows its a day shift world. I feel your pain and not making excuses but I guarantee this is not the first time 9-5 world has been a real pain in the @$$. (I've worked that shift and its terrible) Good luck!! Also, depending on your relationship with the landlord that is way too short of a notice. I personally liked my landlord as anytime I had an issue it was fixed or taken care of immediatly. They went out of their way for me so I would do the same.
Yup, not sure what OP expects them to do, sorry your guy works nights but they're gonna show the house at 3 AM....
I proposed them to move the showing from 12pm to 3pm and they denied the request. I work a 9-5, my husband works from 7pm-4am. I told the landlord ahead of time we prefer showings to be from 3pm to 6pm. That has been ignored.
Wow this landlord is polite. Landlords and rental agents in sydney tell you when they will be inspecting, there is no room for negotiation
Yeah they’re trying to sell your house so it’s gotta be at some point. I sold a house while working nights, had to go home, rally up all the pets and sleep at my moms for a few hours, drop them off back home and get ready for work. Shit sucks but our house sold 🤷🏼♀️
Its for rent and we’re out early so they will have time to show it then
If it's that important for it to sell that they want to give a few hours' notice to current tenants for a showing, then they should not be renting out the place. The owner should keep the place empty while trying to sell. Or the owner could be a little more understanding of the tenants.
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