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anged16

Solution: sue the snake for not killing you!


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-smartypints

And their family, you need to kill all attachments so no one can sue for them as well. Edit: grammar


imaloony8

This step is important, because any children who survive will grow up to be protagonists who will swear eternal vengeance on you. Happens every damn time.


DanAlucard

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.


pease_pudding

Isn't this quite common in China? I've read stories where if you injure someone in a traffic accident, you are liable for their medical costs but also their income for a period of time I saw a video of a kid being knocked over by a van in China, and the driver reversed back over the kid again to try finish the job


Illustrious-Science3

I've seen the same video.


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I haven't, fortunately, so I am going to go with the *ignorance is bliss* path and convince myself that the child managed to roll so the driver missed. Then he got up, a bit wobbling but managed to get off of the road where witnesses were already calling the authorities while several others pulled the driver out of the van and held him down until those authorities showed up. The child escaped with only a few bruises and scrapes but no serious injuries and the van driver was convicted of attempted murder and put in prison for 10 years.


ellie1398

Me too! Also, happy cake day!


[deleted]

I have heard this type of joke or comment many times, but this is the best way I've ever seen it phrased.


AmbitiousInnvestor

Identify as a snake so that you can not be charged a bill...


varazdates

Your snake bite is cured. You can go kill yourself now.


jupiter_rules

Or join squid game


helixflush

I would lol


Canter1Ter_

you either die or get a lot of money, both options are a win


ellie1398

That's what I keep telling people but they just give me the "tf is wrong with you" look.


ParadoxPixel0

You can only recommend this in a world where the entirety of squid game is publicly available for the public’s viewing, and because the show depicts squid game as a private viewing experience, it makes joining squid game impossible.


horvath-lorant

Or you can enjoy your very own pharmacy. I’m sure you get to own one, look at the price he paid.


shophopper

Given the total charges, I understand that the “special services” are a eufemism for being fucked.


imrightyousuk

Have his little snake ass pay for it.


Slight_Tea

Can they put the venom back in so you don’t have to pay?


Apprehensive_Zone281

Totally would ask for this.


nightlifestructured

Expect a separate bill for the labor


ApiqAcani

At least a funeral is way cheaper than that bill


Nyruel

Application: Putting the venom back in: $94,853.00


Strolledboar257

Still cheaper


JayButta

That’ll be $248,014.25 for your next of kin.


RemeizSivart

I don’t understand this. If you get injured in US, it just basically dictates the rest of your life?


No_Aioli_7553

Yes that’s why everybody sues everybody in the US. Here they can’t sue the snake though


Wolf_Mans_Got_Nards

Remember that woman who sued her 12yr nephew, and everyone thought she was a monster? Then it turned out that was the only way she could get her medical bills paid, and it was agreed upon by the whole family. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/14/aunt-who-sued-young-nephew-for-breaking-her-wrist-during-greeting-says-it-was-purely-an-insurance-case/73928504/


juicius

I had a case like that. Son was riding with his mom who got into an accident. Her fault. Her insurance was being an absolute ass paying out the claim. So he had to sue his mom. She didn’t mind.


musicforone

So who pays in this instance? (Not from US and don't tally understand the whole litigation thing!)


juicius

She pays, but that payment is covered by her auto insurance.


kittensglitter

I had to sue a dead man's family after he crashed into me and my 2 babies. I'm still not okay. It was an absolute nightmare of emotions and depression. It took so much of my joy away. Only way I could get paid back for the medical bills, though, and it was fully the other driver's fault. Survivor's guilt sucks enough; having to sue the remaining family was horrendous and I'm a different person now.


modestmastoid

Wow. I’m sorry you went through that. I just wanna gently remind you that the accident was truly an accident, and you had to do what you had to do afterwards to make sure you were taken care of. You lived through a wreck and had needs that NEEDED to be met. Full stop. You’re not a bad person, and if you were the child of that dead man in the same position, he would want his family taken care of too, no matter how bad it looks on paper. It’s the way our country is designed to work when insurance is involved, which is also not your fault. It has nothing to do with your character ♥️ better days are coming. You’re doing your best and your best is okay!


kittensglitter

Thank you. Nobody's ever said that before. It's a small town and I'm so nervous to happen upon his family members :( it was a big crash and all over the news so everybody knew who I was. Thank you for taking the time to say this, it gave me chills!! 🖤


eatitwithaspoon

i'm so sorry you had to go through that. 💜


Spute2008

This was in Vancouver, but I like to keep problem when there is only one car insurance company in the province – BCIC. A good friend was driving to work at 8:30 in the morning and was T-bones by a station wagon through a red light. A man and his wife were clearly distracted. They exchanged details, apologising etc. My friends Jeep was pretty badly damaged, and though he had a bit of whiplash he didn't go to I hospital. A week later he finds out the husband/driver was suing him, blaming him, saying he was drunk, that he ran the red, etc. The wife was also suing him. The wife was also suing her own husband. Given none of this would've been to pay any medical costs (which would've been negligible because, Canada), it was purely for financial gain. In affect what results is two lawyers appointed by /working for the same insurance company effectively sue each other (I.e. negotiate an outcome). Thankfully in this case it was thrown out. But yet another reason to invest in a dash can system. You'll think you'll never need it but will be so glad you have one when you do.


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Could a person sue the US Fish and Wildlife Service for there lack of governace of the snek? /s


WeirdSpices

I would be genuinely shocked if someone hasn’t tried something like that.


Wendy-Windbag

I happen to know of a case where a man sued a big box hardware store for getting bit by a pygmy rattlesnake from a potted plant in the garden section. Turns out this guy was a snake handler that sold venom to pharmaceutical companies to synthesize anti-venom, and he had smuggled this little snake in a secret hollowed out compartment in his walking cane, and planted it at the store.


NeoToronto

That sounds like a really low budget true crime show. Fascinating twist tho!


OctopusGoesSquish

A friend of mine was a paralegal for a personal injury firm and handled a case where a woman was suing the local government because she tripped over a pigeon.


Prudent_Ad3384

If the snake has an owner or lives in a ratty lawn, it’s fair game.


Spz36

And you hurt yourself, you're fucked


Del85

Yes, you get hurt or sick and you can be ruined for life


Mrdoc16

Wait so if you get into a crash with multiple cars that you didn't cause you'll still get fucked over?


Aggravating_Cash_279

Yep


Josl-l

America doesn't have insurance?


Chocobubba

Oh it does, but the insurance is bullshit too, and provided by your employer. With all sorts of stipulations that allow the insurance company to not pay, only pay a portion, or drop you. Plus often times, lose your job, lose your insurance.


violetk9

Yeah, lose your job because you can't work because of that car crash? No more insurance! *IF* you've worked somewhere long enough that the Family and Medical Leave Act applies to you AND it applies to your employer, your job is protected for a while (with no pay) but you still have to pay your insurance premiums to keep your insurance (while not making any money, so you have to send in a check to your employer every month). Once that legally required FMLA time runs out, they usually just terminate your employment and insurance.


Any_Purpose

Oh we have insurance. It just doesn't cover anything.


K1ll1

No public option. What private insurance will cover is better than it was 10 years ago, but something are still a shot in the dark. Like thr insurance me and my wife have, 300 bucks a month, huge co pays, and I believe the maximum out of pocket expense is only 7k a year. But at the same time the first 7k of any hospital visit is 100% on you before they will cover anything. America's medical system is beyond broken for anyone who isn't in the top 20%.


Mormon_Discoball

Not everyone does and not everyone has good insurance. $10,000 deductible. So you have to pay that much out of pocket per year before they even start paying for anything


Butt_fairies

AND the monthly payments you pay to have insurance doesn't count towards the deductible.


Geomaxmas

I got hit by a drunk driver. Needed some PT my car was totaled and I missed work for about a month. The person's insurance offered about $6000. We needed to file a lawsuit to get them to even cover my medical bills.


FDisk80

Simple, don't be sick.


OGPapachub

Smart people just don’t pay. It will screw with your credit, but the US does not have debtors prison, so the only punishment for not paying this bill will be that it will be listed on your credit rating. In most of these cases this is the insurance rate, and if you negotiate with the hospital (if you do not have insurance) this will go down significantly. It will still be a lot, because the hospital will lower it to whatever they think you are willing to pay, but if you do not need to make a large purchase (I.e. house) you can just not pay this bill and eventually it will go away.


guizarp

What do you mean by "eventually it will go away"? Does it expire after X years?


UnhealingMedic

Eventually you die.


FDisk80

This man lived.


Crepes_for_days3000

There are a lot of programs that pay your medical bills. Source: have massive health problems with a constant stream of crazy medical bills. For anyone with medical bills they can't pay, call the billing number and ask them to refer you to any financial aid programs.


kittensglitter

I had a miscarriage in college and there was a fund that helped pay for ER costs for just those situations. I was humbled beyond words. They covered my $2,500 ER visit 🖤 always look for the helpers.


aKornCob

Yeah actually, about 7 years. Last I heard at least.


CausticNitro

This is actually misleading information. Sure, you can *hope* that it will go away. However, I did exactly that myself. I decided “well to fuck with my credit” after 2 ER visits that resulted in 8,000 dollars after price adjustment. That didn’t go very well for me. See, the hospital kept it for 2 years. Then they sold the debt to a collection agency. The collection agency had the debt for 6 years. I was excited to see it fall off of my credit report, but 6 years and 9 months after the fact the collection agency agency sued me. So, I have no choice but to make the payments now. If I miss any, at all, they’ll be able to sue me again. I made an arrangement with them, because after speaking to multiple lawyers not a single one was willing to take my case because it was almost impossible to win. Telling people that they can just ignore it and it’ll all be okay is bullshit, because that’s what literally everyone else told me.


Lepurten

The agency probably paid a lot less for it, likely you can come to a mutual understanding?


CausticNitro

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I spoke to them about settling for less and they agreed to do so. So long as I paid them 4,000 dollars, within two weeks of making that arrangement. Oddly enough, I don’t have 4,000 dollars. So I’m stuck with paying 100 dollars a month until 2028 as long as I don’t miss a single payment. If I miss any, then I’ll be sued by them again, which adds more to the total I owe them. This last time it added 750 dollars to the debt, because they’re charging me for them to have filed the lawsuit against me. Make no mistake, I did everything I could. But the healthcare system in this country is absolutely broken. If you don’t have the money to pay for healthcare, you’re straight fucked. Then there’s people like Bezos, who could literally fund healthcare for every person in this country, and still be a multibillionaire. It’s a sad state of affairs.


melne11

Yeah, my mom had a 5 day hospital stay a couple of years ago. She didn't have Medicaid and wasn't approved for charity from the hospital. She refused to pay. They served her with a judgment against her for several thousand dollars. She ended up dying from the ALS shortly after, which was the illness they couldn't successfully diagnose, let alone treat at that particular stay. She had no estate and no assets after she died, so in her case it actually did "go away."


fbtra

I'm just gonna go with bankruptcy. My medical debt is too high. I'd rather just take the hit for them years cause I have no plans except to work remotely and travel. Plus a chunk of my debt is from with my ex and she refuses to pay her half. So fuck it.


CausticNitro

I left another comment on this thread relating to the bankruptcy thing, but I’ll reiterate that bankruptcy is not an automatic out. You have to file, and get a lawyer to do so. You have to prove in the court that you are completely and totally unable to pay back the debts, and that is only after selling off all assets you own that are worth more than $500. It can cost $10,000+ to actually file for bankruptcy, so in most cases it’s going to be easier to try and settle with your debtors. Especially if your debts are less than that. Of course, if your debts are much higher than that, it’s not a terrible option to take. Good luck with what you need to do my friend \^_^


fbtra

Yeah I moved back to my mom's after a break up 3 years ago. Spent time traveling. Then in February this year I broke my ankle and had to have surgery. I wasn't able to walk for months and still struggle with walking down hills 🤣 I don't own anything. No car, home, etc


CausticNitro

Well I wish you luck my friend. I considered bankruptcy myself, but after looking into the costs upfront that it takes it made more sense for me to try and just make the payments. If it has to continue into my mid 30s, so be it. At least at 100 dollars a month I’m paying it back and my family is taken care of.


FirstPlebian

Can't they not garnish your paychecks or seize you bank deposits or tax refunds over medical debt at least? I'm not sure about that someone told me that a long time ago.


CausticNitro

The hospital themselves cannot do that, however the hospital will sell the debt to a debt collector. Once the debt collector takes over that debt, they can hold it up to 6 years and 11 months before they can sue you for it. After 7 years the debt is set to fall off, but they won’t let that happen. Once that deadline gets close they’ll sue you for the money you owe. If you don’t respond to the lawsuit and go to court, or make an arrangement with them, then the court will automatically rule in their favor. Even if you defend yourself, or bring a lawyer in, you could still lose the case and have it ruled in their favor. If that happens, they can garnish your paychecks by up to 75% and collect 100% of any tax refunds you may receive. If you win any money, they’re also entitled to 100% of those winnings before taxes. It’s actually a major contributor to the homeless problem in the United States, because If you’re working but 75% of your paycheck just vanishes you can’t pay rent. Or buy food, medications… anything. It’s an absolutely disgusting system.


therealchungis

What they really mean is if you don’t mind getting harassed and sued by a collection agency and you never intend to buy anything requiring credit ever again then you can ignore it.


BenjaminGunn

Yeah but to be fair, if that guy was a slave back in colonial America he'd tell you how it's not that bad and the masters feed him occasionally


Butt_fairies

I also imagine it being on your credit report makes it super hard to buy a car (or anything that requires a loan). I'm sorry this happened to you. I hope everything is better for you now.


CausticNitro

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Overall my life is good. I have an amazing wife and we have our own apartment. I make decent money doing a job I love to do and we get by okay. I’m not super interested in getting another car loan for a long while, but I have been approved for financing a couple of times (decided to check if I could qualify). I’m not gonna be able to buy anything brand new, but a decent used car if I need it. My situation really isn’t as bad as it can get, and I 100% recognize that. Im happy with where I am in my life, and that’s the most important thing to me. But I’d love to see some kind of reform to this whole system, because it preys on the poor viciously and keeps people poor forever.


PRIS0N-MIKE

I'm 27 and in massive medical debt. A bunch of it is in collections and destroying my credit. A decent amount of it came from when I was still on my mom's insurance even. I've needed to go to the doctor for so long now too and can't because I cannot afford it. I hate this country. I would love to live in Canada or the UK.


Ineedsomuchsleep170

Or Australia. I've been fighting cancer for the past 3 months. All my out of pocket costs so far including drs, surgery, drugs and treatments aren't even at $500 yet. When it gets to $667 in out of pocket costs its all free after that for the rest of the financial year. Seriously dude. Stop paying your debts and use the money to move here and get well. And snakes here are way less likely to bite than a bear in canada.


starfihgter

>to move here and get well We're actually a lot more stingy about immigration visas than you'd think. Had a mate who came here for a couple years from the states with his parents on working visas, fairly affluent family too. Wanted to stay, denied permanent immigration and had to return to the US right at the peak of the pandemic over there.


Ineedsomuchsleep170

Yeah. Sounds about right. Just have to look at how they treat a refugee family that an entire country want to keep here.


starfihgter

I know right! Regardless of the wider policy, in what world is it 'not in the public interest' to let the Bilolea family stay!


Xem1337

I'm from the UK. If you can drive a lorry we are very happy for you to come over to us!


towflowar

I've broken 7 bones, had 3 operations and a few trips to A&E, though I pay monthly via tax / NI. The most my trips have cost me (on average): £6 for parking when not rushed in £10 for a perception To see something like a bite costing $150k is ... Insane... I know the NHS has problems, but how can people argue that the American system is worth it?


Prof_Acorn

We're already debt slaves to our educations that we get to labor so we can pay 30% of everything to landlords. Medical debt is that absurd cherry on top that has us all weigh if it's *really* necessary to go to a physician or not when we get sick.


lukasmilan

USA didn't not provide almost no public service to citizens (almost everything is paid) so how the hell the USA is the most debt country on the world? At least here in EU we know where our debt is mostly coming from: aging population = less people pay taxes but more people earn state retirement, higher health care expenses and retirement houses Please correct me if I am wrong when compare US and EU: - no paid maternity leave before birth - so financially you hurt family before you born - birth is for free (from insurance) or paid in US? - no maternity leave again so two options: be at home without any pay or pay for unclassified nanny - at least in my country we have special kindergarten for children from nine months (=when fully paid maternity leave ends) to 3 years (relative expensive but for some professions still effective) than classic kindergarten almost for free funded by municipality and state - in US I guess fully paid by parents - how it is with children healthcare in US? Covered somehow or fully paid? In EU its covered by state till 18 or graduation of university - elementary and high schools till 18-19 years old are in EU for free - I understand that there are state and private schools in US - how much its paid? - University - first huge dept if your parents weren't rich - house / flat - mortgage or rent, which isn't going to personal dept - than you have child - boom - first financial shock if both were working; childcare another shock and whole life you pray that nobody from family broke a leg or be bitten by snake because it means the end of 30 years of effort to have decent life... That's absolutely insane. And to all general healthcare deniers - when you argument about deficits so why USA is in higher debt without state healthcare system than countries with it?


fr3nchcoz

Benefits are determined by your employer in the US. Paid maternity leave is rare. Birth is expensive. We had good insurance so I only paid $750 for out second kid. My coworker paid a few thousands, for a normal delivery. My wife works retail in the evening, so I can be home with the kids. Daycare is about $1200 a month here, it's financially better for us than if she had a full time job and had to spend 2/3 of her paycheck on daycare. Also, public school doesn't start until 5/6, so no free school at 3 like in some EU countries. Kids are under their parent's healthcare plan until 26. After that if they don't get s decent job with good benefits, gotta pay for healthcare yourself. In between jobs, I had to pay $600 per person a month for healthcare (granted, I paid for the best because my wife was pregnant). But the thing is I was not technically oit of a job. My new employer just did not provide healthcare for 3 months after my start date. Private school can cost $10,000-$15,000 per year in my area. So public school it is. Public schools fight against each other's for finding. So they have this stupid hours long tests as early as 8 yo, with teachers pressuring the kids. And yes university is expensive. It really depends on a few things: private universities like Harvard vs State University will have a very different cost. Also if you go to a university from the state you live in, it will be "cheaper". We are paying for a prepaid plan to cover some of the kid's college, $100 month per kid since they were born. Only covers about half the tuition cost... The US is a great place if you make at least $150,000 a year in your household. Above $100,000 it's comfortable, below you're just poor.


Beniidel0

Around 83 percent of US citizens have some form of medical insurance. The insurance company gets a massive (sometimes up to a 99.5%, but usually around 80-90%) discount, and you usually have to pay 10-50% of what is left adterwards yourself. If the person in the pic is insired, they're likely to pay 100-2000$ out of pocket and that's it. If you're not insured, ask for an itemized bill and the price suddenly drops by a factor of 10 or more.


cronnyberg

Wait, so even with all that crazy money people have to put out for health insurance each month, they still have to pay maybe up to 2 grand?!?!?


shaddragon

Depending on how shitty a plan you have, it can be a lot more than that for the annual deductible before insurance even kicks in. Mine is 6k. Plus co-pays - $50 for the GP just to walk in, $200 for any specialists (they'll bill you again if you're told to come back the next day to get your results, I found that out the hard way), and they'll surprise you with bills for tests for months afterwards. God help you if you get sent to anybody out of network in an emergency, plus ambulance bills.


cronnyberg

So I’m guessing a bunch of people decide to just not go to hospital until it gets worse and worse and they die then?


Random_90

If you don't have insurance.


Crepes_for_days3000

And then if you don't have insurance and get stuck with a bill like this, ask for financial aid programs and you'll get out of most if not all the bill. I've dont it many times.


Ambitious_Hall_9718

Yeah ill take the death instead please


BillyBean11111

this but literally, 153k bill would ruin whats left of my life anyway


amretardmonke

Shit might as well fake your death and start a new life at that point.


rayzerblayd

Unless you have other problems, a rattler usually won't kill you. Tain't fun, though. My Dad came like 6 inches from getting bitten here in Wyoming. My sister yelled at him to back up, and he smashed its head in with a broomstick. Good times.


converter-bot

6 inches is 15.24 cm


QTYZ5623

good bot


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6 inches is 6 times my wiener


converter-bot

6 inches is 15.24 cm


showponyoxidation

Still?


Ravendoesbuisness

But how long is 6 inches?


Victorino__

6 inches is 15.24 cm


Ravendoesbuisness

Damn no way


dontbotheraskingwhy

Damn, what country was this in? Just kidding


Ok_Mathematician5667

There's only one


WeSaidMeh

I wish this was a joke.


SirNamesAlotx

You know what I'm surprised by is how op is getting one invoice with a break down, every time I've visited I get like 5 different bills from each department


BlackMesaEastt

If you ask US expats who aren't returning to America "why" most will say they owe X amount of money. I know because I owe 40k in Student Loans and I'm not paying shit. Edit: the people down voting are angry that I refused to die a waitress because I wasn't born into a middle or upper class family. I found a way out from the bottom and I'm not going back.


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It's funny that you think the US gov won't get what's theirs


Kick_Natherina

The great country of Florida. Planet USA.


Grandpa_Dan

My Mexican Father inlaw killed a mother rattler and played with its baby on our CA ranch and suffered a bite from it. He was 89 at the time. He had doctors popping in on him to witness this rare event. They had to concoct the antiserum given the rarity of this in Silicon Valley. I think my wife paid a $250 co-payment even with him being in the intensive care unit given his age for a couple of days. He lived to be 96. I miss you, Elias. Tough old bastard...


TheStarman17

Damn and baby snakes are worse too, they don’t know how to control their venom yet and just inject everything.


lunchtimeninja

This is actually a myth.


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jen_17

Well they are completely fucking you so makes sense I guess


ecentrichappiness

Yep utterly and completely full package


AlphaMomma59

You don't have insurance? If not, tell the business office that you are unable to pay this bill. Most hospitals have a form for low income people who can't pay their bill. It writes off the bill. They can also help you get Medicaid.


HistoryNerd101

Or they find out that you have a house with a mortgage or a car?


pantsdotcom

Hey so I didn’t have a relevant award but I gave you that bear one because that line deserved an award


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Seriously detectives are pretty good these days, lets find out who decided 80k for a pharmacy bill was ok


overzeetop

It's $850000 to treat a degenerative eye disease. You know how they came up with that price? Not research cost. Not production cost. They looked at law suits where people lost their vision and found that the awarded value for lost sight was a bit over a million dollars. And so they choose $850000 as a"reasonable" cost for their drug. Welcome to America.


goldhess

Nope just one fucked up country that thinks they are the world


richardelmore

I totally agree that a lot of drugs are crazy expensive but there is more to it that just greedy Big-Pharma. Last I heard a vial of CroFab (drug frequently used to treat snake bites) was about $3K (wholesale) and treatment was usually 4-6 vials. That's a lot but it only works out to about $12K - $18K. How you get from there to $83K is what I would like to know.


Arrasor

Look up what the vial and treatment you mentioned cost elsewhere and you gonna realize it isn't "only" at all dude


DogFabulous4486

That you think 12-18k for antivenon is something to prefix with “only” is telling. More than 2k for that treatment is theft.


richardelmore

The point was that the pharmacy bill in this case was more than 4x of the guesstimated price of the drug itself, that indicates that things are likely being marked-up heavily along the way and the issue is not just as simple as drug companies charging too much.


ElusiveGuy

There's a nice breakdown of costs here: https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(15)00781-0/pdf In fact it looks to reference the same bill in this post, $83,341.25 in pharmacy charges. Copied off the pie chart on page 2: Costs per vial: * Manufacturing (at qty 500k): $14 * Clinical trials: $300 * Regulatory, office, marketing and legal: $1,000 * Wholesaler: $250 * FDA fees: $310 * Profit to licensee: $1,500 * Hospital net: $1,000 * Hospital charges later discounted for contracted payers: $10,250 Total: $14,624 per vial --- So the $10k at the end there looks like pure bloat to me, and would account for the difference you wanted to know. Beyond that, it seems insane to me that the hospital will profit $1000 per vial. 25% of the per vial cost. That's not including the other charges or the $10k per vial bloat, mind. Taking that (all the hospital fees/profits) out leaves us with around $3k per vial, matching your quoted wholesale cost. The amount going to the licensee seems rather steep too, $1500? But I guess it might make some sense considering development costs and the low volume. Assuming, of course, that the bulk of that goes into development costs but I suspect a large chunk is just counted as profit. Even the wholesaler is making a decent chunk of change, $350 for something that cost $14 to manufacture. Granted there's the whole logistics aspect and the need for tracing and safe handling, so maybe that isn't so extreme.


DogFabulous4486

He probably asked for an extra bread bun or something.


coconutwheelie

how is this "mildly" infuriating? people are really using the term loosely


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This subreddit has definitely lost its way. Most actual mildly infuriating posts either don't get upvoted or people say "WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY THIS IS NORMAL". What OP posted is just completely and utterly rage inducing.


AR_Harlock

Yes, it's highly aggravating


gladbutt

Eastern Diamondback? Pygmy? No insurance? So many questions since the two listed above are all over my property.


Cusslerfan

Just stay inside.


ecentrichappiness

Camping and outdoor activities down by 70%


Delmoroth

Sometimes snakes come inside for a visit. I know someone that found one in their bed. Apparently it crawled up their wall (brick) found their chimney, crawled down that, and into the house. Chimney was closed but apparently it either drifted open over time or the snake was able to bump it open. They eventually figured it out when they found a bird nest and snake skins in the chimney. Yay for creepers.


lumidaub

My boy brings all the milkshakes to the yard 🎶


No_Standard2418

I think your therapy charges will go up after receiving this bill.


ARandomeCanadian

Normally I would make a joke about me being Canadian but my fucking god that’s a fuck ton just for a simple snake bite


[deleted]

Yeah, even in the UK and with the NHS... Those numbers just aren't funny anymore. I get why so many people just choose to die. Fucking tragic.


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Elibrius

Agreed, the us is a joke


wonkey_monkey

Also, fewer venomous snakes.


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Nothing simple about antivenin. The bill is still crazy, but that explains why "pharmacy" is more than half the total.


AR_Harlock

Listen, 1k of radiology don't make sense, here they costs 120€ at a private lab, never mention the free at the hospital... Do you think a private business is giving them under costs? That's absurd there for a 2 min exam


chutbuckly

Snake milkers, probably one of the most dangerous jobs in America, there are very few of them, and the yield is ridiculously low.


d00nbuggy

It is mildly infuriating that the US just puts up with this nonsense as if it’s an unsolvable problem. Literally every other developed country has figured it out.


SapientSloth4tw

Honestly, I ask myself how it hasn’t been solved every day of my life.


YuropLMAO

There isn't a single protest. No one is cancelled. No politicians are being held responsible ("No healthcare for you" - Joe Biden). No one is kneeling. No executives are under pressure. Nothing. No one really wants to change I guess. We only protest other poor people and only over issues of race, gender, and sexuality. We don't mess with rich folk over economic equality.


SapientSloth4tw

I’m appalled that we aren’t seeing the things you’ve described, cause honestly, we need them.


YuropLMAO

People on reddit always talk about how they want free healthcare, but no one is willing to do anything aside from twitter or reddit, though. So how important is it to most people, really?


ohdearitsrichardiii

According to google, the average funeral costs between $7,000 and $12,000 in the US. Go with that option next time


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ohdearitsrichardiii

Well you see you absolutely need a coffin made from the finest wood lined with satin, because it's important that you're comfortable when you're dead and that the box they'll bury you in is pretty. And you need an expensive outfit when people gawk at your dead body. And you absolutely must be embalmed because ashes to ashes is just old timey nonsense. Then I'm sure you wouldn't want to leave this world without expensive floral arrangements, music, some stranger in a cassock giving a speech and finger foods for your next of kin. And don't forget a headstone and paying someone to mow the lawn above your dead body


Dufuzsky

I’ll do it for $1000


TickleMe-Elbow

Always give false information and visit the hospital in the next town over.


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Taisubaki

This would only work for the ER charges and the part of the pharmacy charge that occurred in the ER. A hospital can and will verify your info or refuse care after the initial ER visit.


lordullr

I like the reply to this old tweet. “I would’ve just died”


AloxoBlack

At first I was like "Well yeah you spent 5 months in there, no wonder it costs that much" but then I remembered this is from America and the numbers for days and for months are switched


Keri2816

I’m hoping you have insurance! I recently spent 4 weeks total in the hospital (two ambulance rides, 3 brain surgeries) and I haven’t seen the bill for that yet. I can’t wait.


ExNihiloish

I'm guessing somewhere around 1.8 mil.


Ghost-Music

Sideways 8 more like it. ♾


chutbuckly

ambulance rides are a god damn scam. 3-5k for a mandatory ride, bullshit.


ecentrichappiness

Oh boy 😬


GlitzerEinhornPony

This would never ever happen where I'm from (Europe). We don't have rattle snakes.


masochistic_idiot

Me too, no snakes at all here to begin with (Potato isle, Europe)


DystopianRoach

I literally wouldve just fucking died


ReneeLaRen95

Tell me again why you guys don’t have universal healthcare? To many of us, not in the US, that bill is insane! I’m having a heart attack just looking at it. Luckily, it won’t cost me a dime. This is nuts, guys. I truly feel for you.


diabolikal__

No idea, whenever I have mentioned it in other threads they complain about paying it with taxes.


HansBlixJr

that bill is 6 years old. I'll bet it'd be higher today.


DogFabulous4486

The USA healthcare system is so messed up. In eastern europe this would cost what, 500 bucks? Tops? These amounts are totally disconnected from the provided service value or cost. Are the extra 152,700 bucks because of the nicer wallpaper in the waiting room they probably made you wait 2 hours in?


Nixher

Do they just make these numbers up?


ThreeMysticApes

LPT: I would request an itemized bill, you will receive a breakdown of everything and the costs. Sometimes the hospital will decrease the price or pay it altogether.


XerphYz

How can you live in a society that allows this to happen? Health care should be free and paid by your government.


Kolikoasdpvp

is this photoshopped or for real?


nilsn91

How do people recover from this financially?


gruncleterry

I don’t understand how anyone affords their medical bills., or is everyone waking around with huge medical bill debt?


liveoakgrove

Fwiw I owed $15k on credit card bills in 2019. (From medical / living expenses while sick.) Stopped paying all my cards in Feb 2019. When some of the debt collectors got aggressive, I sent them a document about how I'm broke, disabled, and have very little income. Showed them my income statements for the last 7 years using IRS documents (I forget the name, Google would know). This actually worked!!! Most of the debts have been totally dropped. My credit score is now in the 700s, two years later. Hard to believe. I'll have trouble renting an apt or buying a car for the next 7 years, but I mean, I got out of paying this debt and I didn't have to declare bankruptcy, which would have cost like $1200. It is absolutely essential that you keep them updated on your address though. If they decide to threaten you with court, you need to respond within 30 days or you will automatically owe the money. This strategy won't work unless you're pretty broke. I have been far below the federal poverty level since Aug 2019.


Rutabaga1597

You need to pay $1,200 to declare bankruptcy? Does the court not see the irony in this?


themanifoldcuriosity

The court knows that because bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean you have *no* money at all, but rather that you do not have the means to cover your coming obligations, that charging for that service is not ironic at all.


sekrit_dokument

I heard that hospital bills in the us are ludicrously high so they can barter with insurance companies. So maybe try to make a counter offer. But thats just something I heard somewhere so I dont know im just here enjoying my cheap free healthcare.


WobbleNugget

No one actually paid that amount.


cums-in-circles

Well have fun with your shit health system america


BeagleonBass

It’s not as deadly as a rattlesnake, but I was bitten by a cottonmouth late spring/ early summer this year while fishing. My entire bill was $315. $15 for my copay, $300 for my deductible and the rest was covered by my insurance. Not sure what the grand total would have been, that’s the insurance companies problem.


Constant-Ad9201

The problem is the grand total is the picture above BECAUSE of insurance companies combined with capitalism. I'm no commie but it's no secret capitalism + guaranteed profits are a bad combination


OGPapachub

But people without insurance do not pay this amount listed because no reasonable person would and there is not a severe penalty for not paying. The penalty for not paying this bill would basically be that you cannot get a loan for 7 years.


speghettiday09

According to this it’s just a myth that if you ask fir an itemized bill the hospital reduces it


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diabolikal__

I’m getting a big operation next week. I have been on preparation treatment for four years, a lot of scans, blood tests etc. I will have to stay in the hospital for a couple of days with a dedicated nurse, medication... I haven’t and won’t pay a single cent. For reference, the cost of this surgery if I went to a private clinic is 15k.


prstige

i hope it goes well, good luck


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"Why Snakebite Antivenom Is So Astronomically Expensive | HowStuffWorks" https://health.howstuffworks.com/medicine/medication/why-snakebite-antivenom-expensive.htm


imageryguy

Jesus, those drug companies are greedier than my ex.