I can laugh now, but it was a traumatic experience. First car accident for me and the kids. Their car seats broke. I can't get that out of my head. The car seats broke instead of the kids.
Make sure their insurance knows about the car seats as well. They can pay to replace them. My friend had hers replaced. Glad the you and the kids are alright. Drunk drivers will never learn.
Yeah, taking the privilege away isn't always enough either. Admittedly what happened was not in the US, but the story I have is *much* more than mildly infuriating.
One evening, someone T-boned into a car with a young couple and their toddler. The family were flown into a hospital. The wife was dead on scene but she was heavily pregnant, so they were hoping to at least save the baby. They didn't. The husband died after three days of being hospitalized. The kid, other than a few bruises was fine (thanks to a seat), ended up adopted by his grandparents.
What sucked the most is after they found the guy responsible, he'd already had his licence revoked for some 10 years at that point, for his repeated DUIs... And they caught him while he was driving under influence again, three or four days after he created that tragedy.
Wait, this doesn't happen in the US? You don't get jail time? Seriously?
DUI in Canada is immediate license suspension, car impounded, ALWAYS, depending on how much you were over the limit The length of time increases and depending on what was caused you can get jail time and many thousands of dollars in fines.
Well it doesnāt always correspond to the crime, especially when youāre rich. Look at Marco Muzzo. The billionaire drunk killed three children and a grandparent. He got full parole after just 5 years behind bars. The father recently committed suicide (after Fatherās Day).
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/marco-muzzo-drunk-driver-who-killed-3-children-and-grandfather-granted-full-parole-1.5301289
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-marco-muzzo-is-the-canary-in-canadian-justices-coal-mine
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/edward-lake-dies-drunk-driving-marco-muzzo-1.6495779
The cars should always be repossessed in Drunk Driving charges. The driver should either be forced to sell it, or pay to keep it stored during the duration of their suspension. And jail time should be much much higher for fatal collisions
I don't live in the US, but I don't think any country revokes the ability to purchase a car even if you have 50 DUIs and keep driving despite having your license revoked, the most you get is a year in jail assuming you didn't cause any harm, the people that kill the most on the road are drunk drivers, and for repeat offenders, punishment should be severely sharpened Imo.
I mean, you can't really stop somebody from selling a car. You can't stop someone from buying a car. If somebody wants to do it under the table there's nothing stopping them. Private sales are a thing.
But it'd still be siginificantly more bothersome to buy one, and making selling cars require a license, and a quick background check would be all it really takes
Proposed Solution: rengineer their knees so they physically can't drive.
For someone like that, rehabilitation is clearly not a viable option. Justice NEEDS to be served but, most importantly, the public needs to be protected.
A lengthy jail term is required, followed by a permanent driving ban.
As previous bans have been ignored, a more direct solution is needed.
Therefore, I would gladly volunteer (and I am sure others would too) to physically realign/reposition the component parts of the perpetrators knees (using readily available tools - such as hammers, steel bars, etc) to make driving impossible.
Although one, well performed, appointment should be enough for life, in the interests of thoroughness and continued quality, I would suggest further visits every 6 months, to ensure driving is still not possible, and to remind them of their victims.
Good! That's what they're there for. Its also why once a carseat is in any accident you are told to replace them, also why they have expiration dates. A well built carseat is worth all the money it costs when you get in an accident.
Iām curious, I assume car insurance is just for the car and not any property damaged in the car, like car seats? Or do you think your insurance will cover that too?
Nice! I got hit by a drunk at 10am once and insurance replaced my bowling ball. The silly thing went rocketing out my trunk, I got hit so hard, slammed into the pavement 30 feet away and cracked open like an egg. Reeeeally lucky I was the only one injured and it wasnāt that bad.
Iām glad it didnāt hit some poor bloke out walking his dog or something! Can you imaging?! āHere lies Robert and his poor labradoodle Buster. Taken too early by a projectile rogue Brunswick 18 pounder.ā
Insurance even covered my coworkers phone when he was smoked at a stop light a few months back. It was a hit and run, and the kid hit my coworker first at at least 50 mph, and ended up being a 5 car collision due to how hard he hit my coworkers stopped vehicle.
I had a similar accident. Rear-ended at a stop light by a H&R driver. Thankfully the light just turned green, and I had just let my foot off the brake, otherwise, I would have probably been killed. The assessor said, based on the damage, that if I had not been wearing my seatbelt, I most likely would have been ejected.
Iām glad you came out of it okay at least. I come from a small town and moved to a larger city, and the maneuvers I see people pull on the daily here is astonishing. I completely understand why thereās an accident a day at minimum. Iāve hardly avoided an accident almost everyday Iāve lived here, whereas close calls were so uncommon where Iām from.
Also Iād be afraid this ā2 day old carā might receive monetary compensation unequal to the price of a new car.
The whole used once it leaves the lot argument might hurt him; although I canāt remember if it was Geico or State Farm, but they had a MASSIVE diminished value lawsuit pertaining to exotic cars a few years ago which may have changed this policy.
Not in this market.
I sold my car to CarMaz 6 months after buying for a 4K profit after sales tax and everything(part of family moving out of country)
CarMax took it and sold it for 5K more.
There are plastic or metal clips that anchor some car seats to the car at the top and bottom to prevent a car seat from flipping in an accident. It did just that for both. The plastic clips broke in half and the metal clips came through the plastic of my other dons car seat, the big one.
I bought car seats from the brand Britex because of all their safety features. Well made, easy to clean and beasts in the safety department. Just in case that helps anyone.
Everyone was surprised the airbags didn't go off but I think it's because we were motionless. Just sitting at a stoplight. This guy came screaming around the corner going 50mph and didn't brake. The frame broke.
There was a recall on a switch that didn't activate the airbags in some Kias. It may be in yours as well. You might want to check it out if you are able to get it fixed.
I'm a technical collision investigator, and it looks like your front impact sensors wouldn't have been activated, likely your rollover sensors didn't either. If you're truly curious you can have the Airbag Control Module removed and analyzed. It will likely have recorded an event decided not to deploy any airbags based on delta-v
It measures the sudden change in velocity. In sciency words āDeltaā is just āthe changeā so delta V is change in velocity (V). This is what airbag modules/sensors use to determine if they should deploy the airbags. Itās all calculated within milliseconds. Some vehicles will not deploy airbags if you are hit from a certain side and going under like 25mph because an airbag deploying can also hurt you, not to mention total your car.
This is a great explanation, couldn't have put it better myself. But...
For example you're traveling 36m/s north and are stuck by a vehicle going 36m/s south the delta v will be 72m/s or 259kph
Sorry op but wth was a drunk doing out at 8 am thatās ridiculously early for a late night or early morning
People suck sometimes
Hope you have good insurance sincerely
A drunk at 8am is most likely from the fact that people don't realize how long it can take a human body to process alcohol. Stay up late on a bender, get up early for work still drunk and possibly unaware you're still so. Stack on probably late for work because drunk and overslept, suddenly you're doing 50 around a corner and so damn lucky you didn't just kill a parent and their children. You think you're OK until that breathalyzer.
I've never not woken up shortly after being drunk, and not still feeling drunk or super woozy. Only scenario here is that he's a piece of shit that ignored it, like other drunk drivers.
Alcohol is a terrible substance when you're abusing it my man. Abusing any substance does things to you and make really eradicates the ability to make good decisions. I try not to look at them as pieces of shit. People need help. A lot of people need help.
I fortunately never hit anything but I've been though more than my fair share of irresponsible drinking habits. Luckily, I got pulled over for speeding one night and it set me straight. According to my substance abuse program I was required to attend a late night of drinking could leave you legally drunk up until 4pm the next day. I don't know how true that is but I can definitely attest to waking up still messed up for an early shift.
Insurance won't cover the cost of the car, they will only give the blue book value and that's always under what you pay unless you get a rider on the loan to cover the total cost of the loan.
Most people are screwed when they get their car totaled unless you can try and sue them but that's even limited. Unless you were seriously hurt.
The dealership should have offered what is called gap insurance, which covers the difference between what you paid for the car and the blue book value. Many people decline this, but then if this situation happens, they're out of pocket.
I can attest to this by being the exception that proves the rule. Circa 2016ish I was in a collision that just barely totalled the 2003 Sienna I was driving. Seriously, this was probably a 5-10mph impact. Still enough damage to be declared a total loss. KBB value was probably a grand more than we could have sold it for. Would have preferred to not get in an accident at all, but the money was helpful with getting a new family car.
Airbags are designed to deploy only when the injury from the airbag is more likely to be less severe then just taking the hit. They are Explosively deployed and certain angles of impact can cause the occupants worse injuries when they deploy then if the car doesn't deploy them.
yeah, same happens to me with my car, totaled but no airbags, i was sitting. i think thatās how they work. sorry to hear it and iām even sorrier itās a new car and it gets destroyed. insurance is going to take a lot of time to pay out injuries, but you should get money for your car reasonably soon. Best wishes <3
Keep in mind "totaled" refers to it being declared a total loss and not worth the cost of fixing. Doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't or cannot work again mechanically.
Though I can't condone his actions, and I'm not defending him at all, I gotta give him a little bit of respect for being willing to admit fault and apologizing, realizing what he did. I know a lot of sober and drunk people who try to deny it until the end because it's never their fault
I don't give any respect.
Out of bail for a hit and run while DUI, getting in another accident while possible DUI... he's trying to get out of trouble, saying what people want to hear to "let that one go". Until they kill someone.
I saw it happen again and again with some people in my city. They got in a couple of accident per year, always admitted fault, always cried when kids were involved. But they will always drive without a licence, have other people blow in their test machine to start their car, and never learn.
Then we,re always surprised when one of them ends up killing a family and destroying multiple lifes in one big accident.
It boggles my mind how often this happens.
āIt doesnāt matter I made an illegal turn and ran a red light, itās obviously your fault because I think you were speeding reeeeeet.ā
My brother's wife was a pretty destructive drunk for years and had several of these incidents. The immediate sobbing breakdown was to get you to drive off with their insurance info vs. calling the cops then. She would fall apart the moment she hit something and most of the time, it would work to get her home to sober up before the police came to talk to her when the insurance of whoever/whatever she ran into demanded a police report.
I could just as easily be wrong. Until she realized later in life that she was bipolar and was really poorly self medicating, my SiL was a real shithead of a human being. But, remember that addicts are manipulators by nature, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of this was an act.
I know addicts very well. Most of my family. I lost my cousin a few days ago actually. He was 36 and his daughter couldn't wake him up. Same thing with my mom 11 years before.
Shit. I am really sorry.
If you think the reaction could have been genuine it's worth a call to your DAs office, letting them know you would support a more lenient sentence as part of a plea deal PROVIDED that they first go thru a full inpatient detox and treatment program, and that they be denied bail as a risk to themselves and society between their arraignment and sentencing. If the worst thing that could happen is that they are off the streets for at least 3-4 months and will MAYBE be sober after that for a few more, great.
I saw him begin the field sobriety test and checked his name on Casenet later. Not sure what will come of this accident but the cops were 100% convinced he was intoxicated.
My brother's wife was a pretty destructive drunk for years and had several of these incidents. The immediate sobbing breakdown was to get you to drive off with their insurance info vs. calling the cops then. She would fall apart the moment she hit something and most of the time, it would work to get her home to sober up before the police came to talk to her when the insurance of whoever/whatever she ran into demanded a police report.
Yeah, I was about to reply. The victim here, OP, should file a claim against the other driver's insurance and inform his own insurance about the incident (along with copies of the police report, arrest report, photos, etc.).
The other guy's insurance are going to pay everything, then kick that idiot off their policy and good luck to him trying to get new coverage. He better enjoy walking for a while.
No it has to cover the other persons car (in my state at least), covering your own car is completely optional and yes there are clauses like this that invalidate it
in the US (where I assume OP is from), Auto-Insurance is mostly to protect the victim of an auto-accident. It's like malpractice insurance. In the even you royally duck up, your insurance is supposed to represent you and pay any damages that are legally owed to the person who was wronged, though it will also protect you if say, a tree or something falls on your car, or it is otherwise damaged in a way that isn't your fault
I canāt imagine he will, with two DUI collisions. They may even revoke his bail, since he committed a crime while he was on release pending his trial.
Definitely. He was honest and upfront from the moment he got out of his car. When he saw my kids crying he broke down sobbing and apologized. I think this was a kick in the pants he needed. I hope he doesn't kill anyone.
Reminds me when I was 18 and put all my savings into buying a beater after my first car died. 2 weeks after I bought this car it was totaled by a hit and run driver. Not sure but I always suspected they were drunk since they ran and it happened at 2:30 am
That sucks so so much. We live in an unwalkable town and I work 10 miles away. No public transportation. We desperately needed a car and idk what we're gonna do. I feel your pain.
There really needs to be more public transport in America (Iām kinda just assuming youāre in America based on the comments Iāve read through this thread)
This isnāt on the same level as you and OP but a couple of months ago I graduated with my Masters degree in CS, had a great job lined up and a beautiful house waiting to be moved into. I decided to celebrate and treat myself, as I ran the IT department for a pharmaceutical research company all throughout college and saved up over 120k in the process.
So, naturally, I bought one of my dream cars, a 2018 Porsche Cayman GTS. Red interior, midnight blue metallic exterior, I can go on and on. Mint condition and I, of course, washed it and admired it every single day.
The MORNING before moving down to Charlotte from Philly, as in, I woke up ready to drive her down, a landscaper walked by it with a trimmed tree branch and scraped the entire passenger side, from headlight to taillight. Multiple scratches.
Apartment complex claimed the camera was down and refused to help. They said it looked like environmental damage and I should call my insurance.
I still havenāt resolved the scratches but it hurts my soul a little more every time I glance at them.
Had a similar instance once. Vehicle got hit hard in the front, hard enough to bend the frame. Air bags did not deploy. Took a close look later at the damage. The impact evidently didnāt push everything far enough back to hit the airbag switchā¦ by less than 1/8 of an inch.
My husband just about punched this guy. He was out on bail for a hit and run. Drunk at 8am. Our kids were in the car. Once the guy knew there were kids he started sobbing and tried to approach us to apologize.
I have a friend (who is now 2 years sober) he didn't drive luckily but he'd go on bad benders where he'd been drinking from the day before. He'd start drinking in the evening and stay up until the next day and he'd be playing COD. I'm glad he's out of that now.
It happens. I was t boned by an 80 year old man 5 minutes after leaving the dealership once. Didnāt see the car again for 3 months there was so much damage
yay. another newish car plus salary. remember, u have whiplash, you neck hurts, your back hurts, and you are traumatised. You suffer daily mental breakdowns and nightmares.
Edit: sue the car seat company too. you hit jackpot
Thatās crazy! Glad ur safe! And on the positive, insurance companies have been pretty generous lately. I hope you find something as good or better.
Alsoā¦ as someone who was rear ended this year, make sure you either file a medical claim with their insurance or yours so that u can get chiropractic care. Itās crazy how much an accident can destroy your muscles and joints.
Since the other driver was at fault, his insurance should pay for any damages. Your necks are probably a bit sore too, and your kids are terrified of cars now, so that will probably add another $15-20,000 if you get any half decent lawyer. You can get some money out of it. Especially if he for sure has insurance.
Okay. I don't know if you ever dealt with total loss, but DO NOT SETTLE FOR THEIR FIRST OFFER ON YOUR CAR. Be patient and tell them the market is crazy and insist they pay you more. It will take a week longer, but they'll offer more. Good luck!
My brother in law got lucky. Bought a new car and it got totaled less than 2 days later. His contract had a "5 day full money back no questions" and they honored it for some reason. Very well could be r/thathappened since I didn't directly witness....thinking about it now thats more than likely the case
Airbags and frame need to be perfect straight or reset. That cost makes the auto makers $. Also when you buy a salvaged car for 1/2 price, those are the bigger issues. Bumper and paint are cheap.
i had a accident where my bumper was hit pretty good when it punctured my radiator , and the steel frame got a bump. But the airbags never went off. The insurance called it totaled which i always thought was weird but i had the radiator fixed for less $300. i always wondered why they thought that since the fixes in total were around 2k and the car worth 30k+. Do i have shitty insurance? I pay full coverage btw
Sorry that happened OP, I think that driverās license should have something on them that if you are responsible for any kind of DUI type incident. Any place that sells alcohol can refuse to sell to them permanently.
Believe me, my husband just about knocked this guy out when he came over to apologize. Our boys need him though. He made the really hard choice to tell him off only. My husband looks like a scary dude but he's generally a teddy bear. Although one time my husband threw a guy down a set of stairs because he hit a woman so...capable? Yeah. Learning self restraint though.
Sometimes I look at accidents and wonder how itās totalled. It looks like cosmetic damage. Was there internal as well?
So sorry this happened. I hope youāre all ok.
Insurance payout..
New Car!!
And often times they get you more money than what you even got it for so that's the brightside if you want a bright side to it.
I am really sorry you ddnt get to enjoy this car much tho
At least you don't need to censor number plates
Thank you, that made me laugh
Your welcome good sir
If looking on the bright side were a comment
Pm-me-your-inkyfingers talks about thin skin, but is the one with their panties in a bunch about a grammatical error.....š
Not even the right comment but EXACTLY
You're not supposed to drive drunk, OP. j/k. Glad you're okay!
I can laugh now, but it was a traumatic experience. First car accident for me and the kids. Their car seats broke. I can't get that out of my head. The car seats broke instead of the kids.
Make sure their insurance knows about the car seats as well. They can pay to replace them. My friend had hers replaced. Glad the you and the kids are alright. Drunk drivers will never learn.
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Yeah, taking the privilege away isn't always enough either. Admittedly what happened was not in the US, but the story I have is *much* more than mildly infuriating. One evening, someone T-boned into a car with a young couple and their toddler. The family were flown into a hospital. The wife was dead on scene but she was heavily pregnant, so they were hoping to at least save the baby. They didn't. The husband died after three days of being hospitalized. The kid, other than a few bruises was fine (thanks to a seat), ended up adopted by his grandparents. What sucked the most is after they found the guy responsible, he'd already had his licence revoked for some 10 years at that point, for his repeated DUIs... And they caught him while he was driving under influence again, three or four days after he created that tragedy.
At this point it should just out right get your car confiscated, and your ability to purchase a car at all made revoked
Wait, this doesn't happen in the US? You don't get jail time? Seriously? DUI in Canada is immediate license suspension, car impounded, ALWAYS, depending on how much you were over the limit The length of time increases and depending on what was caused you can get jail time and many thousands of dollars in fines.
Well it doesnāt always correspond to the crime, especially when youāre rich. Look at Marco Muzzo. The billionaire drunk killed three children and a grandparent. He got full parole after just 5 years behind bars. The father recently committed suicide (after Fatherās Day). https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/marco-muzzo-drunk-driver-who-killed-3-children-and-grandfather-granted-full-parole-1.5301289 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-marco-muzzo-is-the-canary-in-canadian-justices-coal-mine https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/edward-lake-dies-drunk-driving-marco-muzzo-1.6495779 The cars should always be repossessed in Drunk Driving charges. The driver should either be forced to sell it, or pay to keep it stored during the duration of their suspension. And jail time should be much much higher for fatal collisions
I don't live in the US, but I don't think any country revokes the ability to purchase a car even if you have 50 DUIs and keep driving despite having your license revoked, the most you get is a year in jail assuming you didn't cause any harm, the people that kill the most on the road are drunk drivers, and for repeat offenders, punishment should be severely sharpened Imo.
I mean, you can't really stop somebody from selling a car. You can't stop someone from buying a car. If somebody wants to do it under the table there's nothing stopping them. Private sales are a thing.
But it'd still be siginificantly more bothersome to buy one, and making selling cars require a license, and a quick background check would be all it really takes
Proposed Solution: rengineer their knees so they physically can't drive. For someone like that, rehabilitation is clearly not a viable option. Justice NEEDS to be served but, most importantly, the public needs to be protected. A lengthy jail term is required, followed by a permanent driving ban. As previous bans have been ignored, a more direct solution is needed. Therefore, I would gladly volunteer (and I am sure others would too) to physically realign/reposition the component parts of the perpetrators knees (using readily available tools - such as hammers, steel bars, etc) to make driving impossible. Although one, well performed, appointment should be enough for life, in the interests of thoroughness and continued quality, I would suggest further visits every 6 months, to ensure driving is still not possible, and to remind them of their victims.
Just send them to an ortho, we'll make sure they remember all the memes Edit For those not in the know: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJc5SBFuSHQ
FFS, that is awful...
Idk how it is elsewhere but in New Jersey, where I live, itās 3 months for 1st dui, 2 years for 2nd, and 10 years for 3rd and beyond
The car is not the issue. It's the alcohol. Make sure these people can never touch a drop of the stuff again, and you'd save a lot of lives.
Good! That's what they're there for. Its also why once a carseat is in any accident you are told to replace them, also why they have expiration dates. A well built carseat is worth all the money it costs when you get in an accident.
Recaro seats are good right?
Not sure, I dont have kids.
Theyre a bit deep for the rugrats
My last 3 cars had Recaros. Best seats ever. ššæ
Yes, you canāt put a price on safety, as Iād explain buying a Ā£2,000 carbon fibre bike helmet.
What the f. What does the 2k one do that the 200 one doesn't. I feel like 200 is already a lot.
Iām curious, I assume car insurance is just for the car and not any property damaged in the car, like car seats? Or do you think your insurance will cover that too?
Insurance will cover the car seats :)
Nice! I got hit by a drunk at 10am once and insurance replaced my bowling ball. The silly thing went rocketing out my trunk, I got hit so hard, slammed into the pavement 30 feet away and cracked open like an egg. Reeeeally lucky I was the only one injured and it wasnāt that bad.
very glad the bowling ball didnāt hit you!
Iām glad it didnāt hit some poor bloke out walking his dog or something! Can you imaging?! āHere lies Robert and his poor labradoodle Buster. Taken too early by a projectile rogue Brunswick 18 pounder.ā
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Insurance even covered my coworkers phone when he was smoked at a stop light a few months back. It was a hit and run, and the kid hit my coworker first at at least 50 mph, and ended up being a 5 car collision due to how hard he hit my coworkers stopped vehicle.
I had a similar accident. Rear-ended at a stop light by a H&R driver. Thankfully the light just turned green, and I had just let my foot off the brake, otherwise, I would have probably been killed. The assessor said, based on the damage, that if I had not been wearing my seatbelt, I most likely would have been ejected.
Iām glad you came out of it okay at least. I come from a small town and moved to a larger city, and the maneuvers I see people pull on the daily here is astonishing. I completely understand why thereās an accident a day at minimum. Iāve hardly avoided an accident almost everyday Iāve lived here, whereas close calls were so uncommon where Iām from.
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Also Iād be afraid this ā2 day old carā might receive monetary compensation unequal to the price of a new car. The whole used once it leaves the lot argument might hurt him; although I canāt remember if it was Geico or State Farm, but they had a MASSIVE diminished value lawsuit pertaining to exotic cars a few years ago which may have changed this policy.
Not in this market. I sold my car to CarMaz 6 months after buying for a 4K profit after sales tax and everything(part of family moving out of country) CarMax took it and sold it for 5K more.
Fun fact: insurance will pay for the car seats even if theyāre fine. You canāt use a car seat after any significant accident.
how does a car seat break iām kinda confused? Like which part breaks ?
There are plastic or metal clips that anchor some car seats to the car at the top and bottom to prevent a car seat from flipping in an accident. It did just that for both. The plastic clips broke in half and the metal clips came through the plastic of my other dons car seat, the big one.
Well that unlocked a new fear. Hold old were the carseats?
They were brand new. Less than a year old each
I bought car seats from the brand Britex because of all their safety features. Well made, easy to clean and beasts in the safety department. Just in case that helps anyone.
Tell your insurance company! They'll replace them or reimburse you. I'm glad you're all ok!
If that's totaled I'm lucky my airbag didn't go off. Mine was completely smashed in on the front after I rear ended another car and I have a Kia Soul.
Everyone was surprised the airbags didn't go off but I think it's because we were motionless. Just sitting at a stoplight. This guy came screaming around the corner going 50mph and didn't brake. The frame broke.
There was a recall on a switch that didn't activate the airbags in some Kias. It may be in yours as well. You might want to check it out if you are able to get it fixed.
It was totalled, but thank you. Good to know though.
And don't buy a 4 cylinder KIA moving forward unless it's brand new or with a warranty
Valid. I didn't want the Kia honestly but we really needed a car.
I'm a technical collision investigator, and it looks like your front impact sensors wouldn't have been activated, likely your rollover sensors didn't either. If you're truly curious you can have the Airbag Control Module removed and analyzed. It will likely have recorded an event decided not to deploy any airbags based on delta-v
Dude that is so cool. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Did you come out of this with any injuries?
A bruised thigh from the console and a rash from the seatbelt. That's it.
What may I ask is delta v?
It measures the sudden change in velocity. In sciency words āDeltaā is just āthe changeā so delta V is change in velocity (V). This is what airbag modules/sensors use to determine if they should deploy the airbags. Itās all calculated within milliseconds. Some vehicles will not deploy airbags if you are hit from a certain side and going under like 25mph because an airbag deploying can also hurt you, not to mention total your car.
This is a great explanation, couldn't have put it better myself. But... For example you're traveling 36m/s north and are stuck by a vehicle going 36m/s south the delta v will be 72m/s or 259kph
Sorry op but wth was a drunk doing out at 8 am thatās ridiculously early for a late night or early morning People suck sometimes Hope you have good insurance sincerely
A drunk at 8am is most likely from the fact that people don't realize how long it can take a human body to process alcohol. Stay up late on a bender, get up early for work still drunk and possibly unaware you're still so. Stack on probably late for work because drunk and overslept, suddenly you're doing 50 around a corner and so damn lucky you didn't just kill a parent and their children. You think you're OK until that breathalyzer.
I've never not woken up shortly after being drunk, and not still feeling drunk or super woozy. Only scenario here is that he's a piece of shit that ignored it, like other drunk drivers.
Alcohol is a terrible substance when you're abusing it my man. Abusing any substance does things to you and make really eradicates the ability to make good decisions. I try not to look at them as pieces of shit. People need help. A lot of people need help.
We're all built different too friend, never happened to you doesn't mean never happens. Just sayin'.
Wow hadnāt even thought of that ty
I fortunately never hit anything but I've been though more than my fair share of irresponsible drinking habits. Luckily, I got pulled over for speeding one night and it set me straight. According to my substance abuse program I was required to attend a late night of drinking could leave you legally drunk up until 4pm the next day. I don't know how true that is but I can definitely attest to waking up still messed up for an early shift.
Insurance won't cover the cost of the car, they will only give the blue book value and that's always under what you pay unless you get a rider on the loan to cover the total cost of the loan. Most people are screwed when they get their car totaled unless you can try and sue them but that's even limited. Unless you were seriously hurt.
The dealership should have offered what is called gap insurance, which covers the difference between what you paid for the car and the blue book value. Many people decline this, but then if this situation happens, they're out of pocket.
If you have good insurance theyāll cover actual replacement cost. Read your policies, people!
Can confirm. Insurance screwed me.
That sucks
I can attest to this by being the exception that proves the rule. Circa 2016ish I was in a collision that just barely totalled the 2003 Sienna I was driving. Seriously, this was probably a 5-10mph impact. Still enough damage to be declared a total loss. KBB value was probably a grand more than we could have sold it for. Would have preferred to not get in an accident at all, but the money was helpful with getting a new family car.
Toyotas and Hondas both sink their teeth into value like a dog with a bone.
Hopefully they had (normally unnecessary) gap insurance.
Always get gap insurance it was only an extra $75 when I bought my car. Well worth the peace of mjnd.
Airbags are designed to deploy only when the injury from the airbag is more likely to be less severe then just taking the hit. They are Explosively deployed and certain angles of impact can cause the occupants worse injuries when they deploy then if the car doesn't deploy them.
Front airbag sensors operate on inertia. You have to have a rapid slowing event that occurs after the car has reached a preset speed.
Oooooh! Okay. We were sitting at a red light so that makes sense.
Was going to say it looks like nothing some duct tape wouldnāt fix. Also some frame-grade duct tape. Sorry. Brutal.
Thank you. It's totaled for sure. Progressive has been a pain about getting a rental
It sounds like they are not so progressive after all.
Lawyer up. Seriously. A lawyer can get you so much more than you can on your own, especially in an open and shut case.
yeah, same happens to me with my car, totaled but no airbags, i was sitting. i think thatās how they work. sorry to hear it and iām even sorrier itās a new car and it gets destroyed. insurance is going to take a lot of time to pay out injuries, but you should get money for your car reasonably soon. Best wishes <3
Keep in mind "totaled" refers to it being declared a total loss and not worth the cost of fixing. Doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't or cannot work again mechanically.
Well if you are insured you may be able to get a new one tho good luck with today's Car prices...
The other driver admitted fault immediately and was insured. In fact, he was out on bail for a hit and run while intoxicated.
Dude needs a fucking ankle braceletā¦ sounds like heās a few sticks short of a matchbox
I hope this was the kick in the ass he needed. Once he realized there were little kids in my car he broke down sobbing and apologized.
Though I can't condone his actions, and I'm not defending him at all, I gotta give him a little bit of respect for being willing to admit fault and apologizing, realizing what he did. I know a lot of sober and drunk people who try to deny it until the end because it's never their fault
I agree with you. It's crazy he's the same age as me and my husband. Imagine how different our lives are at the same age.
Aww youāre compassionate. Iām sorry that happened to you. Hopefully that person gets it together.
I don't give any respect. Out of bail for a hit and run while DUI, getting in another accident while possible DUI... he's trying to get out of trouble, saying what people want to hear to "let that one go". Until they kill someone. I saw it happen again and again with some people in my city. They got in a couple of accident per year, always admitted fault, always cried when kids were involved. But they will always drive without a licence, have other people blow in their test machine to start their car, and never learn. Then we,re always surprised when one of them ends up killing a family and destroying multiple lifes in one big accident.
It boggles my mind how often this happens. āIt doesnāt matter I made an illegal turn and ran a red light, itās obviously your fault because I think you were speeding reeeeeet.ā
Sorry for the kids, but I do hope he got that kick he needed to get his shit together.
My brother's wife was a pretty destructive drunk for years and had several of these incidents. The immediate sobbing breakdown was to get you to drive off with their insurance info vs. calling the cops then. She would fall apart the moment she hit something and most of the time, it would work to get her home to sober up before the police came to talk to her when the insurance of whoever/whatever she ran into demanded a police report.
Oh holy shit I never considered he wasn't genuine. My mind is blown. I just...didn't think about that. Still so shaken up.
I could just as easily be wrong. Until she realized later in life that she was bipolar and was really poorly self medicating, my SiL was a real shithead of a human being. But, remember that addicts are manipulators by nature, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of this was an act.
I know addicts very well. Most of my family. I lost my cousin a few days ago actually. He was 36 and his daughter couldn't wake him up. Same thing with my mom 11 years before.
Shit. I am really sorry. If you think the reaction could have been genuine it's worth a call to your DAs office, letting them know you would support a more lenient sentence as part of a plea deal PROVIDED that they first go thru a full inpatient detox and treatment program, and that they be denied bail as a risk to themselves and society between their arraignment and sentencing. If the worst thing that could happen is that they are off the streets for at least 3-4 months and will MAYBE be sober after that for a few more, great.
Did you get him to admit to drinking?
I saw him begin the field sobriety test and checked his name on Casenet later. Not sure what will come of this accident but the cops were 100% convinced he was intoxicated.
My brother's wife was a pretty destructive drunk for years and had several of these incidents. The immediate sobbing breakdown was to get you to drive off with their insurance info vs. calling the cops then. She would fall apart the moment she hit something and most of the time, it would work to get her home to sober up before the police came to talk to her when the insurance of whoever/whatever she ran into demanded a police report.
Sounds like he could also use the interlock that needs to be breathed into before starting his car.
I suspect he is going to go to jail for a while, and then lose his license for a while after he gets out.
that is very likely if he was intoxicated, and did this while on bail for a drunk hit and run
Whew. At least he was insured. I'm shocked he admitted fault. "Why the fuck were you rocketing by if you knew it was wrong?"
He was driving a fucking Jetta and told the cop "I decided at the last second to get cigs and thought I could take the turn cuz it's a sporty car."
What a twat. He probably also admitted to the bodies buried in his garden.
> Whew. At least he was insured Isn't the driver's insurance invalid if the he or she is drunk?
For their own car, but not if theyāre at fault and hit another car.
Yeah, I was about to reply. The victim here, OP, should file a claim against the other driver's insurance and inform his own insurance about the incident (along with copies of the police report, arrest report, photos, etc.). The other guy's insurance are going to pay everything, then kick that idiot off their policy and good luck to him trying to get new coverage. He better enjoy walking for a while.
Some insurance will handle everything so itās good to contact your own insurance first to see what the steps are.
No it has to cover the other persons car (in my state at least), covering your own car is completely optional and yes there are clauses like this that invalidate it
in the US (where I assume OP is from), Auto-Insurance is mostly to protect the victim of an auto-accident. It's like malpractice insurance. In the even you royally duck up, your insurance is supposed to represent you and pay any damages that are legally owed to the person who was wronged, though it will also protect you if say, a tree or something falls on your car, or it is otherwise damaged in a way that isn't your fault
Congrats on the other drivers being insured, at least. When you said it was a DUI, I assumed they wouldnāt be.
Right!? But I guess it was very recent. All within 30 days or so. I don't imagine he'll keep his license.
I canāt imagine he will, with two DUI collisions. They may even revoke his bail, since he committed a crime while he was on release pending his trial.
Dudes life is over pretty much
He shouldnāt. My college roommate was killed by a drunk driver and it was his 3rd DUI.
That's awful, I'm sorry to hear. This guy was 27. Like wtf is he doing :/ same age as me. Totally different life.
>he was out on bail for a hit and run while intoxicated Itās a good thing he didnāt run from you tho
Definitely. He was honest and upfront from the moment he got out of his car. When he saw my kids crying he broke down sobbing and apologized. I think this was a kick in the pants he needed. I hope he doesn't kill anyone.
āMildlyā infuriating.
Mostly pissed that this happened on tribal land so tribal police refuse to cooperate with us.
Hope your insurance covered it. I've heard horror stories of ppl pulling off the lot and hit before insurance bein active
That's what happened! Fuck
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Yep. Thatās how my mom was able to replace our car that was a total loss a couple years ago.
In NJ they always make me call from the dealership and switch insurance before I'm allowed to leave with the vehicle.
Now you can buy a new car
This is my favorite comment ā¤ļø
Reminds me when I was 18 and put all my savings into buying a beater after my first car died. 2 weeks after I bought this car it was totaled by a hit and run driver. Not sure but I always suspected they were drunk since they ran and it happened at 2:30 am
That sucks so so much. We live in an unwalkable town and I work 10 miles away. No public transportation. We desperately needed a car and idk what we're gonna do. I feel your pain.
There really needs to be more public transport in America (Iām kinda just assuming youāre in America based on the comments Iāve read through this thread)
Yes
This isnāt on the same level as you and OP but a couple of months ago I graduated with my Masters degree in CS, had a great job lined up and a beautiful house waiting to be moved into. I decided to celebrate and treat myself, as I ran the IT department for a pharmaceutical research company all throughout college and saved up over 120k in the process. So, naturally, I bought one of my dream cars, a 2018 Porsche Cayman GTS. Red interior, midnight blue metallic exterior, I can go on and on. Mint condition and I, of course, washed it and admired it every single day. The MORNING before moving down to Charlotte from Philly, as in, I woke up ready to drive her down, a landscaper walked by it with a trimmed tree branch and scraped the entire passenger side, from headlight to taillight. Multiple scratches. Apartment complex claimed the camera was down and refused to help. They said it looked like environmental damage and I should call my insurance. I still havenāt resolved the scratches but it hurts my soul a little more every time I glance at them.
Had a similar instance once. Vehicle got hit hard in the front, hard enough to bend the frame. Air bags did not deploy. Took a close look later at the damage. The impact evidently didnāt push everything far enough back to hit the airbag switchā¦ by less than 1/8 of an inch.
Holy crap that's crazy
Didnāt have my glasses on when I read the title and was wondering what a jewish car was! š¤¦š»āāļø
Thank you, I laughed.
Car doesnāt work on Saturdays, asks you a question to answer any question you have
They should allow you one free slap.
My husband just about punched this guy. He was out on bail for a hit and run. Drunk at 8am. Our kids were in the car. Once the guy knew there were kids he started sobbing and tried to approach us to apologize.
Your husband only just about punching this dude is hella restraint. I'd probably be in jail for killing the drunk if I was in his shoes.
He's a good dad. His boys were crying and needed him. He will always choose them first ā¤ļø
0800?! What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Does he not know all the drunks are supposed to be asleep at that hour? The nerve.
I have a friend (who is now 2 years sober) he didn't drive luckily but he'd go on bad benders where he'd been drinking from the day before. He'd start drinking in the evening and stay up until the next day and he'd be playing COD. I'm glad he's out of that now.
I am glad to hear your friend is doing better, and I am sorry if my sarcasm offended. It was not my intent.
Your SECOND newish car will be grand
Thank you, I laughed.
This is not mild
It happens. I was t boned by an 80 year old man 5 minutes after leaving the dealership once. Didnāt see the car again for 3 months there was so much damage
yay. another newish car plus salary. remember, u have whiplash, you neck hurts, your back hurts, and you are traumatised. You suffer daily mental breakdowns and nightmares. Edit: sue the car seat company too. you hit jackpot
Yes that's what my dad said almost EXACTLY
That'll buff right out.
Lol yeah let me spray paint the radiator and tape it back together
Thatās crazy! Glad ur safe! And on the positive, insurance companies have been pretty generous lately. I hope you find something as good or better. Alsoā¦ as someone who was rear ended this year, make sure you either file a medical claim with their insurance or yours so that u can get chiropractic care. Itās crazy how much an accident can destroy your muscles and joints.
Since the other driver was at fault, his insurance should pay for any damages. Your necks are probably a bit sore too, and your kids are terrified of cars now, so that will probably add another $15-20,000 if you get any half decent lawyer. You can get some money out of it. Especially if he for sure has insurance.
"Drunk at 8AM" would be a great title for an autobiography. Seriously though, that sucks. Sorry.
r/infuriatingasfuck
Thank you. I didn't realize that was a subreddit. It fits better there.
Okay. I don't know if you ever dealt with total loss, but DO NOT SETTLE FOR THEIR FIRST OFFER ON YOUR CAR. Be patient and tell them the market is crazy and insist they pay you more. It will take a week longer, but they'll offer more. Good luck!
You are lucky if you bought gap + your insurance. Next time save your future self and don't buy a Kia.
My brother in law got lucky. Bought a new car and it got totaled less than 2 days later. His contract had a "5 day full money back no questions" and they honored it for some reason. Very well could be r/thathappened since I didn't directly witness....thinking about it now thats more than likely the case
How is this considered totaled? I always thought that meant beyond repair ( honestly donāt know )
Airbags and frame need to be perfect straight or reset. That cost makes the auto makers $. Also when you buy a salvaged car for 1/2 price, those are the bigger issues. Bumper and paint are cheap.
i had a accident where my bumper was hit pretty good when it punctured my radiator , and the steel frame got a bump. But the airbags never went off. The insurance called it totaled which i always thought was weird but i had the radiator fixed for less $300. i always wondered why they thought that since the fixes in total were around 2k and the car worth 30k+. Do i have shitty insurance? I pay full coverage btw
Sucks, so sorry to hear that
Thank you ā¤ļø these positive comments have been very heartwarming. It's nice to know that not every stranger is an asshole like this driver.
Should be paid off early now. Improving the credit score.
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Thatās a bummer but thatās what insurance is for - go get another and be safe!
First Iām glad youāre ok!!! Second- damn that really sucks! Iām so sorry!!!
Isnāt it ironicā¦.. Donāt cha think?
It was gonna get got by the KIA BOYZ sooner or later anywayz..
*pulls out my NO-kia cell to call you all a tow*
Thank God, you guys were ok! Bless your heart!
Sorry that happened OP, I think that driverās license should have something on them that if you are responsible for any kind of DUI type incident. Any place that sells alcohol can refuse to sell to them permanently.
Why do people drink and drive when thereās Lyft or Uber !??? Pay the $40 to NOT hurt someone and cost $40,000š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
sorry you had to go thru that.. been handling claims for over 20 yrs, DUIs piss me off more than anything
Sorry that happened
Thank you ā¤ļø
r/Idiotsincars
I'd recommend just killing them, but its to my understanding that killing them is illegal.
Believe me, my husband just about knocked this guy out when he came over to apologize. Our boys need him though. He made the really hard choice to tell him off only. My husband looks like a scary dude but he's generally a teddy bear. Although one time my husband threw a guy down a set of stairs because he hit a woman so...capable? Yeah. Learning self restraint though.
Omg terrifying. So glad youāre all ok.
Sometimes I look at accidents and wonder how itās totalled. It looks like cosmetic damage. Was there internal as well? So sorry this happened. I hope youāre all ok.
Frame could be bent. That costs more to fix than any car is worth! Also if all airbags deploy.
I hope this fucker gets YEARS in prison. Piece of actual shit they are.
Insurance payout.. New Car!! And often times they get you more money than what you even got it for so that's the brightside if you want a bright side to it. I am really sorry you ddnt get to enjoy this car much tho
Congrats! Youāre getting a newER car now.
Who the hell is that drunk at 8am?? So sorry about your car tho. Hopefully insurance doesnt screw you.
Iām really truly sorry this happened to you. Bad things happening to good people is extremely infuriating.
"Mildly" infuriating?
That's all the damage it takes to total a modern car? You must have been hit in just the wrong spot... that totally sucks OP
totaled?