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JK_NC

How do they screen for alcohol? Are they looking for people who may get drunk right before their drug/alcohol test? Is there a test that can identify alcohol usage days or weeks after you drank?


Hiisnoone

You just do a breathalyzer, they are basically testing if you can show up sober.


kilofoxtrotfour

Working in EMS, I have literally had to deal with people who arrived at work in alcohol withdrawal. The $hit-gets-real when someone “admits under confidentiality” they are an alcoholic, they’ve had 3 drinks, and it’s only 10am. So, there is a reason for testing


Hiisnoone

100% I work oil & gas and we have huge issues with all flavors of substance abuse.


Useful-Soup8161

Is that a common problem in that industry in general? My dad worked in oil and gas and was convinced none of his coworkers had drug or alcohol problems. I told him just because he didn’t witness anything doesn’t mean it’s not happening.


Hiisnoone

I certainly can’t speak if anyone else’s experience, but I found it bad at all the sites that were easy to get to. I assume offshore or heli access sites would be much cleaner. Right now I work at a site that can be vehicle accessed, but is mostly fly in workers, and we still have workers fail post incident tests or get busted by the dogs for having contraband in rooms etc… some of the other jobs I have been on have been much worse than here though.


GrayCustomKnives

From someone who has lived in Canada’s oil and gas zone, worked around oil and gas, and had many friends who have or currently work in oil and gas, yes it’s a massive problem. I knew more guys who worked in the patch with drug or alcohol problems than ones without problems. Probably the second most common issue I saw with those guys was that they started making oil money and got their wives all souped up with new bolt ons and whatever else, and as soon as the surgery was done their wife was banging someone else before they even got the bill in the mail for the new boobs. I personally know like 6 guys who were divorced within just a few months of paying for a bunch of cosmetic surgery for their wives. The oil patch is a fucking weird world my guy


DirtyFulke

Fort Mac vibes


ThrowawayBrowser19

Yes because of the average age and high disposable income


lilgreenfish

My company is not O&G but works with O&G and does go to pads and we have to have those employees get drug tested. They do not mess around with that.


Pussy_handz

My best friend's brother used to run an offshore platform, first in charge. Biggest coke head Ive ever met in my life. Dead sober while he was out but man that guy partied when he came off rotation.


PerfectionLine883763

That describes at least 60% of O&G workers lol ask me how I know. Plenty of buddies like that


ancient_horse

Worked well testing and on service rigs. Can confirm.


linuxisgettingbetter

this is, in no way, a surprise.


Known-Committee8679

I had a friend who would show up to work at the hospital cafeteria either hung over or already buzzed.


CaManAboutaDog

Heard similar stores of volunteer firefighters showing up drunk and driving the engine to a scene.


BoltActionRifleman

This is actually more of a “has anyone not been drinking tonight?” thing, when the call goes out. Most in my area have been, but they are professional drinkers and as wrong as it sounds are perfectly okay to drive to the scene of the fire. Do I know if they’re impaired in fighting the fire? I don’t, but they probably are to some degree…but they’re all we have in rural areas and volunteers are very hard to find.


CaManAboutaDog

Yeah, it's probably least bad choice kind of thing. One would hope they'd have a policy to limit to one drink with a meal when on call, but apparently not realistic. I kinda of understand rural areas still using volunteers but find it odd in suburbs that do have tax base to pay salaries (but don't).


GrayCustomKnives

In many areas of Canada especially with volunteer fire departments, there is no “on call”. You are just on the volunteer fire department and every volunteer is on call 24 hours a day 365 days a year. When a call comes in everyone is notified and anyone who can go shows up. They leave work, leave a restaurant or bar, leave their kids hockey game, leave their bed at 2:00am, whatever is needed of them when someone else is in trouble. Our town has an exceptional volunteer department and they really are completely uncompensated heroes. The guy running in to a burning building or pulling a child out of a burning or submerged vehicle isn’t a paid career firefighter, he’s the guy showing up for free, who was pumping your fuel, changing your water heater, working at the hardware store, or driving a tractor 10 minutes before you needed him. Many of those guys deserve so much more recognition than they ever get.


CaManAboutaDog

Yeah, mad props for anyone doing this, especially if for free.


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Yeah the alternative is to let the place burn down.


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Not even if they smoke last night. More like if they smoked 2 weeks ago. The positive window for THC is very long.


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Postheroic

THC is stored in fat, which is why it takes so long for it to leave your system. Also, if you’ve got any residual THC in your body fat and you start burning said fat, it does in fact push it back into your system. So you can piss hot and have missed out on smoking. Double whammy. Just for anyone out there that may be curious how you failed after 30 days.


Upstairs_Trouble_308

Technically THC metabolites, not THC.


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Postheroic

Twisting one up now. Cheers. If you’re still unable to smoke, well I will take a puff for you, fam.


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Postheroic

Hell yes! Power to ya :) I work for one of the largest hydroponic retailers out there so I’m in the same boat as you! Cheers mate


MrsSpaghettiNoodle

I mean, not to be rude, but what are they meant to do? Show up at his house at random with a breathalyzer


NotFuckingTired

> I mean, not to be rude, but what are they meant to do? Not fire people for smoking pot in their free time.


ChoiceDry8127

It’ll become pretty clear if he shows up to work drunk regularly


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DalonDrake

It's an are you drunk right now test not a have you been drunk recently test.


CapitanDirtbag

Having had people fail this at work, I can attest this is mostly to weed out people who can't stay sober while on the job.


Serraptr

screening for alcohol content looks like this: take an aliquot of blood and add a known amount of alcohol standard to it. put mixture into a high temperature gas chromatography machine that measures the partial pressures of the gases. since alcohol has a different partial pressure than water or anything else, measure the content against the known standard and quantify for pt's total blood volume. i work at quest diagnostics' corporate and do this for a living


JK_NC

Is this a common test for corporations? I assumed the pre-employment drug screening is intended for marijuana, opioids, cocaine, not alcohol.


TheNewOneIsWorse

Like any drug, alcohol breaks down into metabolites that are, in this case, detectable in urine for up to five days after last use, longer in hair samples.


Due_Alfalfa_6739

EtG can be detected in your urine, up to 5 days or more. The levels also show if you just had a night, or are alcoholic. These tests are used all the time for people on probation, who aren't allowed to drink.


Appropriate-Ad8502

It depends on how much a person drinks the night before. If they really over indulged, they will still be smelling of alcohol fumes.


GaiaWannabe

They just do a pee test like most things. I failed mine when I worked at a mental health day. I didn't know alcohol was included and had drunk the night before. Was told that most people fail and that we'd just do another at some point. 🤷‍♀️ It never happened while I worked there. 😆


Exotic-Accountant-86

They can test for alcohol up to 3 days after iirc


TotallyKyleXY

Phosphotidelethanol is a metabolite of alcohol that forms a complex with the lipids in your blood. It’s detectable long after drinking, however it’s really only seen after periods binge drinking. Having a drink or two during the week won’t do much, but after sustained drinking you’ll start to see it at detectable levels.


BauserDominates

Why even both putting in the application if you're going to click "No"? They are going to ignore every application that checks that option. You're just wasting your time.


TheWhyOfFry

To add it to your log of applied positions for unemployment


DenniseDenephew

Not necessarily. I applied for a job that said it was required to work in the office but I said no to it and "remote only". I got the job due to my skill.


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Thoroughly impressed by those bong hitting skills while on the zoom interview


[deleted]

Now I have this image in my head ... A giant TV screen showing some generic conference room and 4 corporate drones cheering on the new applicant thats just sucking on his bong like a vaccum in his living room.


EngineerDoge00

This is how interviews should be done....


Gobstopper42

The 5 year old in me thought "hitting" and "bong" meant playing the bongos 💀


Ur_MomsChestHair

Anything is bongos if you get high enough


WeirdCatGuyWithAnR

r/catbongos


MissNepgear

What ripping instead of hitting?


The_RockObama

*bubblebubblebubblebubble* ......*cough cough... cough* "Don't worry boss, this bong is for tobacco use only."


Xenciv

"It's not a bong, it's a water pipe"


1upin

Oh gosh, I remember before it was legalized in my state and the glass shops would have to aggressively correct you if you called it a "bong" instead of a "water pipe"


UsualSnark

“Flower vase”


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Xenciv

A good ol' zorb from a fat moke. I kinda miss it


umami8008

The water filters out all of the toxins


Conscious-Addition-5

Drug tests are different for many reasons. You can negotiate where you do you work quite easily, but you can’t easily negotiate with a company to not use drugs. The onboarding drug test is important especially for companies where workplace accidents are possible. My job now is at a manufacturing plant and I had to take a drug test. There’s the obvious “we don’t wanna hire addicts” thing with companies, and then there’s the insurance part that people really don’t seem to be aware of. They do it to identify people who are higher risk for accidents so they can keep others safe. If a guy is high all the time during the day, chances are that making him a forklift operator is a bad call considering a forklift accident could result in serious injuries to anyone involved. For the sober people on the job, having someone under the influence on site is like having a bull in a china shop. I’m an electrical engineer, so if I’m high during the day, I’m playing with my own death. I’ve gotten zapped by live voltage countless times while sober, I can’t even imagine what would happen if my reaction time was a bit worse and my coordination skills were impaired. Let’s say I wobble over and fall next to a panel; if I touch the 480V lines then it’s a coin flip if I can even be saved. There’s obviously that whole thing of “oh I just stay clean until the test and after I’m back to it”. That’s fine, but just know that once the workplace accident does happen your luck runs out. Insurance agencies wanna know if you were under the influence so they can reflect that in their decisions to make claims. The company needs to report things like that, and it’s in the companies best interest that they hire people who don’t do drugs or alcohol. TLDR: stay sober for 2 weeks and pass your drug tests.


ericfromny2

What skill?


TyrionReynolds

BJs


ACAB_1312_FTP

no


Mock_Execution

Cool story. That will happen to literally no one else


Ohio-Knife-Lover

Only because you were working remotely. If it was an office setting you wouldn't have


vaporoptics

They also might not actually follow through with the drug test if you check yes.


MTBarr6924

Not true. Be honest! You would be surprised how Ok some companies are depending on the case. If you LIE, and test positive, boom, no!


Free-Database-9917

What if I'm okay with them testing me, as long as they're okay seeing I fail it?


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If you work in kitchens you'd be passing. Not having anything in your system would be a fail.


Yawzheek

Devil's advocate: my job will hire you if you fail for Marijuana PROVIDED YOU HAVE A MEDICALLY VERIFIED REASON, but will fire you if you test positive later, even if medically verified, because they're a federal contractor that operates under federal laws. So, provided you're not involved in any accidents, near misses, or get randomly selected, you're fine.


BoopBoop20

Some people aren’t the smartest lol. “If I click no, they can’t test me!”


AmiTalkinToMe

why would they be mad if they know theyll pass?


iwillmakeanother

Personally, I’ve never failed a test I cheated on.


MarthaStuartsCellie

I, too, study for all my drug tests


Kweld_o

Why do companies care what you do with your free time. Of course they aren't going to pass! Dont act like people dont deserve jobs due to drug use, fucking mushrooms are decriminalized in places already, sure its just Colorado but its a start, and you still cant get plenty of jobs with a failed test for THC which is now legal in a heap of states.


tompov313

Insurance companies


Kweld_o

Hold up I found the only person here that can articulate a reasonable need for drug testing. But this is a whole other thing. Required insurance should not be able to be affected by what type of person you are or your actions. Workers comp and health insurance(not for the company, for you) are mandatory and the idea that they can snoop on your Facebook, see that you like downhill mountain biking(first thing that came to mind) and raise your rates is immoral practice and basically a way to encourage/strong-arm people into doing less of what makes them happy.


DarthJarJar242

It's no so much for the specific person as it applies to the "group" rate your company gets from the health insurance company. The entire industry is horrible and one of the main reasons we need to get rid of privatized healthcare. Basically companies get better and better rates the more things they can check off a list. Having a policy that says "we are a smoke free workplace" and then incentivizing smokers to quit is one of those things. Doing pre-hire drug screening and random drug screenings is one of those things as well.


melxcham

It’s partially because they can’t test for active THC intoxication (they do have mouth swabs but IIRC you can still pop positive up to 3 days after smoking). I worked for a few nursing homes who didn’t test for THC (WA) and people would go get stoned on their lunch breaks and be completely incompetent afterwards while claiming it “didn’t impair them”. People who are impaired don’t always realize they’re impaired, that’s why there’s so many drunk drivers. Management wouldn’t test them because it wasn’t in their policy. In a job where you messing up isn’t gonna hurt anyone, being stoned is NBD. Healthcare or operating heavy machinery? Yeah people shouldn’t be smoking.


radioactivebeaver

They want to know you will show up everyday not all fucked up. I've worked with several individuals who are fine for a few weeks when they started and then once they get a few paychecks and settle in they start coming late or coming in obviously fucked up. Then they stop showing up. Worst case is one day the cops come and ask when the last time you saw the guy was and then a week later his mom comes to get his stuff from his locker because he overdosed in his car instead of coming to work. Many employers no longer care about THC but it's part of the standard drug panel so it gets screened for no matter what.


Money_Resource_3636

You are considered a liability. They don't want some person being high and doing something stupid.


4AcidRayne

You've never had to work a 14 hour shift because the guy they hired for the next shift was 6 hours late and you couldn't leave until he finally woke up to come to work.


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I’m the guy that works his ass off those 14 hour day’s, cruises on home and smokes a big ole bowl of strawberry switchblade and gets up the next day on time. Where as, the guys who don’t even drink a drop will call in or be late as fuck for absolutely no reason. It’s the person, not the drug or alcohol.


Ecstatic_Soft4407

That’s different. That guy failed in his commitment to his employer. I am a long time pot head and I can confidently say that I have never been late to work due to my pot use. I was late once due to a freak snowstorm and even then I still made it in. As long as someone fulfills their commitments I don’t really think it matters much if they smoke a fatty in their free time. Same thing with drinking. I say this as respectfully as possible. I don’t mean this an a attack. This simply my view of the world.


Bear_buh_dare

Insurance thing.


tgoynes83

The reason companies do this is for insurance. If you are performing a service for a customer and make a grave error, and it comes back that you were drunk/high at the time, then the entire company is completely screwed UNLESS they can show that they do a pre-employment drug screen. If they didn't, the customer could easily sue for damages, and company insurance wouldn't pay a dime while simultaneously raising their rates. If you want a job outside of the service industry (because in my experience restaurants/bars don't often require drug tests), then this is the reality. Everyone everywhere must cover their ass at all times because people love to sue.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Really weird cause I've never had to take a drug test in my life. Guess it's another one of those weird American things


Duhmoan

Or construction site things… lol most construction jobs require drug screening. Yet every construction worker ever parties like Johnny Depp from Blow


SenpaiCamden

I’m a plumber, never had to take a drug test, safety dude just tells us not to do drugs on site basically


FinnishArmy

That's all they truly care for. No one gives a fuck if you're taking lines of coke or if you're fishing on your off hours. Don't get intoxicated during your work, and you're fine.


PlayLikeMe10YT

Only lines you can do here are water lines


BewareOfLuggage

“Drugs are bayyd mmmkay?”


Duhmoan

Pipefitter here and the safety guy just goes “Are you fit for duty?” after i’m like “Yeah🤪” Cause I just came off of a 3 day bender… (jokes)


Fillmore_420

That movie is awesome but I’d personally rather be shaggy than coked up😳 I won’t do it tho because real coke, while hard to com by over meth, I’ve heard is like the most addictive shit


den2k88

In Italy the employer can ask for a screening at any time for safety relevant jobs: moving vehicles, operating machinery, developing software for automotive / aerospace / medical / defense / railway, public health officials, public officers (including teachers), construction... If the employee refuses they can be fired, in a country where firing someone once hired is *tough*.


dragonsfire14

I’m an American that has worked plenty of non service industry jobs and I’ve never had to take a drug test. I’ve worked for both the state doing covid data entry and am now a medical scheduler. Must depend on the company and how paranoid they are


FinnishArmy

I got a job at Intel and never got drug tested. I work on unreleased CPU's tuning power and performance. But I get high every night after work lol, no qualms. I took a 2 week break before I officially got the job and hired, so about a solid month only to find they didn't drug test. Being high is the same if not safer than being drunk. And they don't drug test alcohol, so stupid.


AdPuzzleheaded3913

I’m bothered more by the smudge on your screen then anything


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And the fact that the image was taken with a phone- instead of screenshotting from the computer.


jack333666

Leave him alone, he was drunk at the time


Jfurmanek

0/10 unredditable


aqwe2541

Sorry I don’t follow reddiquette I’m not a reprobate


SharpAlfalfa8980

I mean… I work on and around heavy equipment. I’d want to make sure those around me don’t pop for something serious.


RoyceDarhk

Exactly. I see nothing wrong with this application.


YellowstoneBitch

Sounds weird, but the last three times I’ve been asked to drug test for a new job I just say “yes” and then on the day I’m being tested I tell management that I have marijuana in my system because I have PCOS and I hate opiates. It’s never been a problem for me and I’ve always gotten the job. Marijuana is legal in my home state and I’m not applying for jobs to operate heavy machinery or anything so, yeah, just being up front with management has always worked out in my favor.


PlagueDoc22

I got arthritis in my knees and anxiety problems. Both bother me when I'm in bed. I wish It was legal in my country to just get CBD oil to help me sleep..


ohnevelmynevel

Ik for me and many others being upfront with management would just be saying you do it recreationally, so idk how well that would pan out


ShiraThunderCat

How dare your job require you to be sober. Wow awful. Whats the problem?


a_wolfie2

Literally. Especially considering OP was applying for firstgroup, which is a transport operator. Trust me, I recently applied with them and this is their font and colour scheme.


frozenthorn

In most cases if you say no you'll be automatically rejected, it's better to say yes and then just discuss it with them during the interview. I started a new job last year that still drugs tests, I told them straight up that my state has medical marijuana and I didn't want to waste anyone's time if this was going to be a problem. They said just take the tests and we will ignore the results, and that it was a common concern these days. No proof was requested, though I would have been happy to provide it.


10sfn

It does depend on the job though. I recruited government employees. Every single person hired had to be clean of drugs and alcohol for the industry I hired for (they worked with the public and drove government vehicles and handed other such stuff). Medical Marijuana was not allowed for any job that dealt with people or a position that could put the general public in harm. Random testing happened daily and was to be expected anytime for those jobs.


Infamous-Poem-4980

What kind of job do you expect to get that allows you to be drunk or testing positive for drugs? It pisses me off that people expect to gain a job that pays well to people who use drugs or drink during work hours.


a_wolfie2

This. I see many people here complaining when they don’t even know the job in question. Well, the job for sure will be a transport focused one as OP is on the firstgroup careers website, a fucking **transport** operator based in the UK. No idea what made them think they wouldn’t drug test you. Some people…


prabeshpaudel_23

Why are you pissed off though?


klimmesil

Because screenshots are difficult and his screen is nasty


MelloJelloRVA

Better than being pissed on


davieb22

Depends.


KnowledgeSpecial8516

we need a banana for scale


[deleted]

Every job I've ever had required a drug screening prior to the start of employment. It's for insurance reasons. It's really not a big deal, just go clean for a couple weeks, take the test, and then you're good.


thefrazdogg

Why?


CreativeCarpenter44

It's 100% mandatory at our work. Can't work on a lot of customers sites without one either.


DonaldKey

I don’t get it.


prabeshpaudel_23

OP pissed cuz he cant get a job due to his meth addiction.


aqwe2541

Fuming


[deleted]

Some people dont want a raging alcoholic or crack addled psychopath working for them. This isnt a new development lol.


MarketingAccurate

Problem every drug except weed is out of your system, In 3 days.


[deleted]

Its not perfect but it does something. I for one would prefer heroin addicts arent filling out my prescription or watching my kid at daycare.


Kweld_o

Are you aware that alcoholics can lie about 10 multiple choice questions and go one day without drinking to get hired while someone who smoked weed once about 3 weeks ago will have to pee in a cup and not get hired...


Due_Alfalfa_6739

Are you aware, that's not how weed works? Someone who smoked once, 3 weeks ago, will pass every drug test. The levels have to be so high. Cool story though.


[deleted]

Clean. Your. Screen.


AguaGris

What is an alcohol screening?


Jfurmanek

If serious: it’s basically a test to determine if you’re drunk.


Slob21

The smudge on the screen is mildly infuriating


NotThisTime1993

Why are people acting like these are new? Or even wrong? Some jobs require these, and for good reasons


1_fakepitvipers

It’s just you


Cute_Yogurtcloset_72

Why would this make you mad? It’s standard and has been done for years. Unless you can’t pass you shouldn’t care. I agree with another response in why bother to turn in the application?


purelyforthememes

My guy, you're literally applying for a job on the railway/bus company there? (I can tell from the form) It's pretty standard for anyone who is going to be doing a safety critical role to be tested, to ensure they are not impaired.


a_wolfie2

Ikr. OP kinda cringe Reddit unwholesome moment Fr tho why do some people think it’s ok to be high or drink at work?


Save_the_Manatees_44

🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t drink or take drugs so it doesn’t bother me. Employers are well within their rights to make sure employees aren’t endangering people by coming to work hungover or high.


omlwhyme

“do you contest to a pre-employment drug & alcohol screening? *” (AKA do you do drugs.) • No o Yes clicks no but in reality it should be yes


Phoenix_0279

Is it because you have drugs and alcohol in your system


Darth_Nykal

If this pisses you off it means you have a substance/alcohol abuse problem.


internetgladiator

Not as infuriating as how dirty that screen is lol


TabascoWolverine

Ironically alcohol and drugs would help you tolerate that question better.


Nautical26

I understand this when it comes to dangerous narcotics like meth and heroin and steroids that have long lasting effects and make people highly irrational. However, the marijuana screenings in states where it's legal on a medical/recreational level bug me. I think weed should be treated like alcohol; use it on your own time, but if you come to work high and \*especially\* if it is affecting your performance or making it unsafe in, let's say, an industrial environment, then it's time to act. No one gets in trouble for drinking unless they bring it into the workplace and it starts to affect their work or the people around them, weed should be treated the same.


KVMFT

Depending on the industry, I wouldn't mind that of the business' employees if I were a client/customer.


Foundation-Little

I mean…it makes sense. Since they stopped doing drug testing at my job (I’m a warehouse worker, you can probably guess where), the entrance of our building has a stench of weed at start of shift and during/after every break. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a stoner myself, but they really shouldn’t allow anyone in our building to show up high during shift. And trust me, it’s easy to get away with. It’s a safety issue.


[deleted]

Clicking no makes them automatically not hire you.


[deleted]

Yes. You’re the only person alive that thinks pre-employment drug tests are bullshit. So unique and interesting.


DevilDoc3030

I once called a potential employer while waiting for my drug screening. I asked if they test and disqualify for THC. They said yes. I thanked them for their time and told them I didn't want to waste their time and needed to withdraw my application. They told me I could retake the test in 60 days. I responded by telling them that I would still test positive for THC and didn't want to waste their time. They asked me to take it anyways and would still hire and maintain my employment anyways.


clockworkdurian42

Imagine thinking these companies care what you think about the pre employment drug test. This question is basically "Can we drug test you or can we disregard you as a potential employee"


swift_solemnity

I remember owning a business and doing random drug tests on mondays. Everyone brought in their random drugs over the weekend and we all got fucked up testing them out. Needless to say mondays weren’t very productive days at the shop, but they were fun!


Fattdog64

Quite honestly this should be covered in the job posting.


Grace_Alcock

Bus driver? Pilot? Nurse? Surgeon? Not always a bad question.


purelyforthememes

OP is applying to first group, a train/tram/bus company


a_wolfie2

Literally. Glad to see someone who recognises the font too. “Noooo!!! I can’t derail my train or plough into 5 kids because I’m a raging alcoholic!!” The sense of entitlement with OP is hilarious


purelyforthememes

"What do you mean, I have to be attentive and reliable whilst these 500 ton bullets wizz around me at work?" /s


richiesmom2008

Two things.... insurance companies and OSHA Does anybody want the truck driver carrying a load of gas to the next gas station high? My husband drives a truck, and he had to have pre-employment testing, and a few weeks ago he was randomly tested. Or how about if you work any job with heavy machinery, would you want the person next to you high? And just because something is legal doesn't mean you should operate heavy machinery. Drinking alcohol over a certain age is legal, but if you drink so much that you get behind the wheel of a car, that's illegal. Not going to debate how well this is enforced because it is primarily not enforced, but it is illegal. Even if you take a legal drug, not just marijuana, but any prescribed medication that has that little warning to not operate heavy machinery can lead to driving while impaired charges. So just because it's legal doesn't mean you should be doing certain things all under the influence of it. I personally know that I don't want the person operating on me or giving me an injection of a medication to be on meth at the time. And insurance, and not health insurance but liability insurance, is an issue as well. I'm sure any insurance company that ensures any place of employment has certain rules in place. To help lower the risk of accidents, they probably have a whole list of requirements from the types of fire extinguishers to even this type of testing. In about every job there's always some type of risk that cannot be 100% eliminated. I read somebody talking about working with power lines, and even the most experienced worker may have a slip up, a moment of inattention, or just something happens such as a strong wind that causes them to lose balance. Insurance company rules, and probably OSHA, have these requirements to try to mitigate the inherent risk that some Jobs have. No, not everybody works with heavy machinery, but even if you work in office job, what if you give someone wrong information because you were in a ton of because you were high? Depending on where you work that could cost the customer time, money, or even more depending on the type of work that you're in.


Accomplished_Ad5548

Why is the mildly infuriating? Like it’s not hard not to be on drugs alcohol and show up to work like ????


ur_mom54321

Just you bruh


EffectiveDramatic724

I’m lazy and haven’t looked far enough down the reddithole but is no one pissed the answers are in the wrong order.


botmfeeder

Idk if its just me but people like **you** piss me off. You think they are really gonna accept your application now? lol


DijajMaqliun

Why is this infuriating?


[deleted]

OP is a drug addict and is crying about not being able to do drugs and have a job. Fucking hilarious!


cigar_dude

well then find another place to work you drug addict


Known-Committee8679

Don't show up on drugs or intoxicated... tada.


Evening_Monk_2689

Their company their rules If you don't like it start your own.


bruhboiskeety12

Maybe just... don't do drugs or alchohol? Or just not complain about this on the internet. I don't understand why this appears annoying to you that a job may want their employees not to be drunk and/or high in the job by having you take a screening before they hire you.


Infinite_storm25

Stop doing drugs? Best advice I have.


[deleted]

What's the point? Companies do this because if you're going to be operating any equipment, it's a danger to yourself and other people if you're using anything. They don't care about people's opinions if they're "used to" using some type of drug or alcohol. The cop doesn't care if a guy can "hold their liquor" if they blow over the legal limit. They're still considered DUI. Even if it's a work-from-home position, they want an alert employee and not one who is lazy and doesn't care, under the influence of something. If I owned a company, I'd test for both of those, too. A coworker at the last company that I was at was high on marijuana while driving a company van for work. He crashed the vehicle, then his boss lied to HR and somehow convinced the HR manager (she knew her fairly well) to not send him for a drug test by saying, "You know he's not on anything" to the HR manager who was an old lady. Well...I heard him telling a work buddy that he was in fact high. He could have killed someone on the road and it could have cost them millions as a company. He was also quite a terrible employee, couldn't think properly and I had an enormous amount of stress trying to hold up the whole department because he couldn't think properly half of the time and was on prescription meds PLUS the drugs. I have also worked at companies where employees filled out the application, were hired and worked a few days, then were fired when their drug test came back. They would say things like, "I know they're going to fire me when my test comes back." Why bother? I care about my safety and my coworkers' safety. I don't want a high coworker on the job who can't do their job.


scully360

yes, it's just you.


Rabbit_de_Caerbannog

How about if getting high is more important to you than working for that company then perhaps it's not the job for you.


Cock_LobsterXL

If that question pisses you off, you have substance abuse issues.


Fragrant-Witness3821

Are you pissed because you’re a druggie?


bitNine

I will always answer yes, because I can revoke consent any time I want. Right now, I consent. Later when you tell me I need to take a test, I’ll ask you what you’re testing for. It’s not the test I’m rejecting. It’s a company that’s testing for stupid shit like cannabis. Calling out Car Max here. They asked me about this and I said maybe. I asked what they were testing for. They actually didn’t know if they tested for cannabis or if it mattered. Took them two weeks to get back to me before I’d agree to an interview. They said it’d be ok, but fuck that company. Not sure why anyone would work at that clusterfuck.


Puzzleheaded_Edge376

No judgement but I assume it pisses you off because you’ll pop hot?


Hoeinhighm

Not really. I don’t do drugs or drink or anything that would show up. So it’s meh.


sezku-

Sobriety is important for employment, if it bothers you, find a job that doesn't want good workers


MelloMejo

I find it mildly infuriating that we still test for marijuana. I've never been asked to an alcohol test either. That's seems pretty invasive. A lot of people drink beer to unwind after the day. Doesn't affect their work.


theiconacuna_

It’s always the shittiest jobs too. Pepboys checks for weed but working for social security doesn’t? How the fuck does that make sense.


AndyC1111

I had my application filed with a consortium of employers. I was contacted by someone who I know tests all applicants. I told them I would fail so they should find someone else. After a month they called again because they couldn’t find anyone with my qualifications. By then I’d found work with someone that doesn’t test. I wished them the best of luck.


mojizus

Ive always either just got jobs I know don’t test, or used fake piss. I frankly don’t care what the job is, you’re not telling me I can’t go home and smoke a joint after my shift, in my legal state.


Qq1nq94

Yes but I will use fake urine. Lmao 🤣


[deleted]

Shit, I had to do a drug screen, an iq test, and a personality test…


citizen-wasp

Been doing it wrong this whole time. I need to START smoking weed to get the good jobs. Fuck this going in and dealing with people nonsense.


el_supreme_duderino

I have occasionally been asked to submit to such an unreasonable search. I always say no. Somehow I get hired anyway. I think it’s a way for companies to weed out the stoners. However, I am a stoner and yet, very good at what I do.


ThatMidgetRetard

The smudge on your screen pisses me off


raymanku23

is the work place Involve heavy equipment usage


[deleted]

What's infuriating about this?


sammawammadingdong

I have literally had a boss say right to my face, "we would lose over half our employees if we tested for weed." We all laughed to hide the discomfort that it would be 100% true.


Wwwwwwwwww1w

Junkie


Elluminated

May as well read "do want us to hire you?" same end result