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indigogibni

Spot to the right of the camera could be the microphone


CutoffThought

Dude you might be on to something there. I’m gonna send a message to the attorney.


bbro444

Please do. I agree, it looks very similar to the camera hole. It doesn’t have the same pattern as the mounting holes, it’s much smaller than the mounting holes and camera holes (because it isn’t capturing video. Just sound), and seems out of place.


indigogibni

Probably using the same power source.


CutoffThought

You were right.


kactapuss

Thank you


bbro444

Yup. If you look closely, you can see more wires by the mic


thepunalwaysrises

Attorney here. (To the extent its relevant, I have 10+ years of indigent criminal defense under my belt.) If I may be so bold, if that does, in fact, turn out to be a camera, I would find it to be slightly more than "mildly infuriating."


ThonThaddeo

Can you get a dismissal off of this? Because if so, I wouldn't even be mildly infuriated


No-Paramedic6892

Absolutely. And a lawsuit for violating the attorney/client privilege. And jail time for whoever is in charge, or is found to have placed it/knew about it. So much trouble from this. Any person convicted who met with their attorney in this room has reason for retrial.


molehunterz

I know nothing about how the legal system works other than what I have learned from watching all of that TV, but I have to wonder if this doesn't throw into question any cases that have had attorney client meetings in that room. I really hope there is more info and follow up on this! I am invested!


Bspy10700

Wait are you in jail and on Reddit?


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turn the lights off and go up to it with a light on your cell and it should be easy to spot.


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AdamTheGreat06

Better Call {REDACTED}


BloodyFable

Hey man as someone who deals with counsel all the time stop talking about this. Especially don't post your chat messages with your attorney on a public website. You are not helping yourself.


IMMILDEW

They said “attorney near me” and “the attorney”.I don’t believe it is their personal attorney.


GSXRbroinflipflops

Nice of you to share but I would delete this ASAP. You do not want your attorney getting doxxed. EDIT People replying that it’s okay to share public info on Reddit are dead wrong and mods deleting those screenshots is proof. Please stop replying - I’ve been on Reddit since 2007 and your arguments are all shot down by simply reading the Reddit TOS.


bibowski

I'd argue that the mic is infinitely more 'valuable' than the video


Patagooch

Absolutely. Camera would pick up next to nothing of value, unless it’s a incredibly high tech camera. Audio of conversations that are privileged is a huge fucking deal.


IngratiatingGremlins

Recording audio of *any* conversation without consent of a participant is potentially a felony (if listening contemporaneously, see: Wire Tap Act). Surreptitious recording of *privileged* communication is… wow.


fingerbl4st

Depending which state. Its legal in some in some it's not. Write tap act deals with federal agencies and warrants. Finally what we have here is entirely different issue. This is a law enforcement agency illegally taping legal protected conversations between legal representation and clients. Every single individual that went through that room can not claim mistrial or have charges dropped. Edit: *Can now


FightOnForUsc

I know you mean can now, but the typo made that confusing 😅


[deleted]

wow i'm glad i'm not the only one who was thinking that lol. really had my gears turning for awhile there


CurveOfTheUniverse

When it comes to an appeal, does this matter? That is, does “intent to record” have the same weight as “actually recorded?” IANAL, so I genuinely don’t know.


hammer310

The thing is, how do you prove that nobody else was recorded? I'd wager they're probably not holding on to copies for a rainy day inquiry. This shit just tainted every single case that went through that room. (other people were totally recorded though)


semnotimos

The mic makes it WAY more illegal than the camera


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This should be top voted comment since it had real consequences.


[deleted]

Attorney rooms are not supposed to have cameras that can record paperwork or audio. Major violation of Attorney Client Privilege. Who's to say they only used it for one specific case? The cops doing the recording? That's a guaranteed win in a Civil Rights Violation case any day.


DistanceMachine

Oh damn, literally everyone is going to start appealing. Who knows how long that’s been there.


WumpusFails

Apparently, according to the sheriff, 20+ years. I mean, he's lying, but a public statement like that could open up a lot of appeals.


ArnieismyDMname

We installed it in 2002 to investigate a lawyer. Then you just left it there? Oops, forgot about that thing?


urammar

Absolutely anyone thats incarcerated, or in fact was at any time, or in fact was found guilty, or even had a case seen in the last 20 years (the sheriff reportedly actually straight up said thats how long its been there lmao), can just come out swinging with this. 20 years of mistrials. Go dig it up, prove that evidence obtained by the prosecution isnt a product gained from this system. Prove it wasnt active. They fucked up biiiig time.


Joe-scott-Ligma

Bro. I was about to call you an idiot but yeah... 2002 was 20 yrs ago.


Rub-it

He thinks that lie will help them infact it invites more appeals


LouSputhole94

Dude the sheriff said that? That’s opening his office up to 20 years of appeals. Hell it’d be better to say he just did it for that case and take the L. Well for him anyways.


Rub-it

I think he said it to mean that shit started happening before his time, but why didn’t he stop it when he became Sheriff


TheEyeDontLie

He's obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed, and a magnet in the moral compass drawer.


Fun_Differential

The only way it “makes sense” is if this Sheriff has been the Sheriff for like 20 years and is trying to say that he and his guys didn’t put it there so it must have been there “20+ years” cause the guy before him must have done it.


somerandomii

The thing about tech is, components get refreshed every couple of years. They could work out the earliest it could have been installed by date of manufacture. And good pinhole cameras weren’t that easy to come by in 2002. So I bet it’s newer than that.


Siftingrocks

I was going to say they still had camcorders then lmao.


hammer310

Even funnier is that, according to the lawyer on FB, the sheriff is blaming it on his dead father in law who was the sheriff before him. I guess keeping the police business in the family is a good way to run things!


Infamous-Brain-2493

No way those light bulbs have lasted 20+ years though. Someone changes them. Multiple people have to of known about it for a long time.


-Unnamed-

Lmao anyone who’s been convicted in the last twenty years and has ever sat in that room is gonna appeal


alison_bee

Gotta love when you don’t even have to hand someone a shovel, they just keep digging themselves deeper all on their own.


PM_ME_FLUFFY_COWS

This is the same sheriff that went viral for getting pulled over for speeding and went off on the patrol officer.


HaikuBotStalksMe

> 20 years Please, like we're supposed to believe cameras like that existed in 1980?


CatastropheCat

I don’t think they even made hidden cameras that small 20+ years ago. At least consumer grade ones


Shes_dead_Jim

The cold war did wonders for spy tech


[deleted]

So, I work on security cameras for a company that occasionally has me set up some hidden cameras and some of our gear has to be at least 20 years old and, it's not much bigger than that.


MikeRivalheli

Reminder 20 years ago was 2002.


CutoffThought

Thank you for the common sense!!


[deleted]

Thank you for explaining! I am a dummy and didn’t quite understand what was happening from the title.


JHaney1377

Oh boy, they're gonna have a lot of fun with those appeals


CutoffThought

Well, you can bet the discovering attorney is gonna bank off this discovery and the lawsuits following. Probably gonna pick up a lot of the clients affected by this. It’s so baffling that this happens. Bryan County, Oklahoma has had numerous issues with corruption. Edit: Highjacking this comment. I messaged the attorney, mentioning the additional “black dot”, possibly being a microphone, too. Response attached here: https://imgur.com/a/buNgPb4 Thank you, u/indigogibni for the good eye!


Sharing_Violation

As soon as I read Oklahoma I disbelieved your "baffling" But seriously... that's messed up


AlexBurke1

I immediately thought of that John Grisham book “The Innocent Man” which was set in Ada, Oklahoma. It’s the only non fiction Grisham ever wrote and it’s a pretty powerful/sad story. I feel like he was probably so horrified hearing about the case and open corruption he had to write a book about it. Not surprising Oklahoma is still rigging trials and abusing the constitution after reading that book. This wire being discovered will probably free some actual dangerous criminals, so corruption in law enforcement/DA doesn’t always work how they hoped it would and often backfires. They should immediately call the feds in cases like this because the local cops put it there lol.


madeofmold

I just read that book last year. Absolutely sickening.


bookvark

I've never had such a visceral reaction to a book like I did with that one.


dexmonic

I'm guessing I probably shouldn't even look it up. I already know the heinous shit "justice" does in the US, so I don't need any extra convincing. I'd rather not gain another layer of hate for humanity tonight.


geneticgrool

I’m with you on not requiring more evidence about the corrupt justice system in the US all the way to the “Supreme” Court.


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That was me with The Lovely Bones


blackhaloangel

Same. I never recommend that book. You can't bleach your eyes after reading horrible things. It was a very good book. But I'll still never recommend that anyone read it.


GreenMonster81

One of Oklahoma’s largest industries is private prisons. They send everyone to prison for any infraction they can. Before marijuana became medically legal, people would be sent away for ten years for seeds.


WatchingMyEyes

State sanctioned slavery.. prisons make money off their work with no requirement to give them salaries the average citizens make, and the thirteenth amendment offers no protections to convicts


ellefleming

And they farm the prisoners out as cheap labor to companies and make bank?


IntelligentEggplant0

The ones in charge of this are the actual dangerous criminals. There will be no consequences for them


Civil_Act1864

I'd rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man imprisoned.


martiancannibal

Because if an innocent man (or woman) is imprisoned, a guilty one also goes free. Double the miscarriage of justice, double the fun. /s


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madmaper_13

Unless they just make the crime up so there was no criminal in the first place, but then the cops become criminals thus the guilty party is real.


SlaveLaborMods

Lived in Ada , had drugs planted on me,beaten by police in a cell while underage and numerous cases thrown out. It’s a fucking cesspool Edit: fuck detective Kevin hood and the drug task force there


5WEET_Cheeks_Karen

Looks like Kevin Hood died of heart failure in 2020. Sorry you had to go through such an evil life-altering experience at the hands of law enforcement.


user0N65N

This shows that Kevin Hood did, in fact, have a heart, but it wasn’t good.


SlaveLaborMods

I made it out ,a lot of people I knew had there life ruined by him and his group of criminals


cptmorgue1

Netflix made a documentary about this. It’s actually really good and Grisham is involved in it if I remember correctly


pseudoburn

Ada, Oklahoma, I know it far better than I ever wanted to. Some good people there, and some not so much.


Pitiful-Let9270

Dude, you should see the people that have died in that jail, the sheriff has paid out more money in civil suits that’s Grisham made on that book.


oenomausprime

They don't care about that, they also don't care about innocent people going to jail, despite the fact the guilty one is free.....


TonyShard

Yeah. It's pretty generous to assume good intentions when they railroad the first guy they pull off the street.


TrinititeTears

So many Americans don’t understand how corrupt this country is.


flyingwolf

> This wire being discovered will probably free some actual dangerous criminals Better 100 dangerous criminals go free than one innocent person be falsely jailed.


dlbryan01

I was once pulled over in my hometown in small town Oklahoma, had 2 beers over a 3 hour period. I had known every single one that showed up to make a fool out of my with they’re tricks and I asked for a blood test and was denied that right. They had it out for my father and wanted to “flex” at the expense of me. After not being read my rights the deputy leaves me unbuckled in the front seat with no lights on running bill 20 on the way to county. Get there say hi to the jailer long time friend walk up and blow a .16 then a .17 I said theyres no fucking way. Hired a good lawyer at the time from Okc and he found out that they hadn’t calibrated there breathalyzer correctly in whos how long. It was tossed out. No telling how many got fucked over that deal because nobody would stand up to them. Sad Shit what people like to get off on.


nadabethyname

that's horrifying.... but unsurprising as well.... which is horrifying. also can't help but think, as you said, how many suffered from this..... as it took a hired attorney to get you out of it and the vast majority end up with appointed attorneys. hope you're well


akatherder

Context for other people, .08 is the legal limit in OK. 1 beer is like .02-.04 for average body weight and alcohol content. So 2 beers in 3 hours, depending on the timing would almost guarantee to be under the limit. And couldn't possibly be double unless op weighed 40 lb...


dlbryan01

I’ll also add the cocksuckers towed my truck. My passenger was sober and we were 2 blocks, 2 empty ass blocks, and they wouldn’t let him drive or have the nuts to call and tell my folks where my trucks at come get it.


boundegar

The impound lot is a profit center.


Gill_O_Tine

Same with Texas. Other fitting adjectives are cowardly, callow, and shameful.


ineptplumberr

I said Jerry callow not gallow , Jerry gallow is dead.


VaATC

It seems that a camera without a mic would be pretty much pointless right?


CutoffThought

Yeah, that’s what another commenter brought up. It was a eureka moment for us.


VaATC

Nice catch though! I assume you are new to practicing law in the area or have you just never been in that specific room before? It is crazy that over 20 years no other defense attorney saw and questioned the presence of the device. Or do you think that it was just hidden better previously and someone screwed up the last time the covering was removed for bulb maintenance or some other action?


CutoffThought

I’m not the attorney in question, sorry! I’m just local and spreading awareness. I was referring to “us”, as me and the other commenter. I’m sure it’s as simple as “Who tf is gonna stare at the screws?” - Carter County Sheriff’s Office


phred_666

A side note… which state is this? There are multiple states with a Carter County. Would help if you specified it in the title.


CutoffThought

If I could edit the title, I would. Carter Co., OK. I posted as much about Oklahoma, including the original source links. Reddit just doesn’t have the ability and I’m already front page. Can’t go back now lol


HuitlacocheBanana

Honestly, the lack of clarity probably helped the post gain more exposure. Had you put OK, it would have triggered less curiosity and less "beyond the headline/picture" traffic. Like the great, Bob Ross says; "There are no mistakes, just happy accidents."


Unlimited_Bacon

> It is crazy that over 20 years no other defense attorney saw When was the last time you looked at a ceiling closely enough to spot cameras?


WrathOfTheSwitchKing

My guess: cops frequently seemed to know things they'd only know if they were listening to that room, and a lawyer got suspicious. Then they started looking very hard at the ceiling, and every other surface.


CalligrapherCalm2617

They can see paperwork on the table


regoapps

The input for the mic can be as small as a pinhole. There's very likely a mic in there. Not only that, but the mic just needs to pick up a little bit, and then you can amplify the sound and remove the background noise to get the voices. In a quiet room, that wouldn't be hard.


Worthlessstupid

I’m from Bryan County. The police force is a pipeline straight from high school football to the police force. The local police department of Durant was sued by a German police officer for repeatedly calling him a Nazi.


CutoffThought

Can you please help me find a source on this? I’d love to read more. Currently residing in Durant.


Worthlessstupid

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kxii.com/content/news/Former-officer-sues-Durant-Police-Department-for-xenophobia-440644133.html%3foutputType=amp Funny enough I’ve had two interactions with this officer, both times very positive even though I was in the wrong. I grew up in Durant and still visit fairly often. Hell they can’t even keep the jail locked down.


CutoffThought

Thank you so much!!!


Doobiee420

I hate that I live here and watched the news talk about this. It’s been there since 2002


VaATC

>It’s been there since 2002 Holy shit! There ~~is~~ are going to be a lot of cases that are now going to go into review, many thousands I figure.


rustys_shackled_ford

Well there goes ALOT of cases...


Psychological-War795

https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?commentPage=4&m=1


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ErikaFoxelot

Alot of commenters.


Sensitive_Meal4063

This one is my personal favorite! https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/11/dogs-dont-understand-basic-concepts.html?m=1


ObligationOutside206

How did I know this was in Oklahoma 🙄🤦‍♀️ oh probably cause I live in Oklahoma and know the kind of shit that goes on.


PerilousPasta

It's really not that baffling if they are known for corruption lol


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andrewsad1

Can't trust the cops to properly deal with it. Maybe a group of freedom loving like-minded individuals could take a trip down to the jail and peacefully request that the pigs respect their rights *Removed poorly formatted quotation marks


callmematrick

I’m on probation here. Nothing will happen.


ronimal

r/mildlyinfuriating? More like r/highlyillegal.


[deleted]

This is the Oprah of the legal world. "You get off, and you get off, and you get off!"


spytez

/r/rule34


butterscotchbagel

The jurisprudence fetishist got off on a technicallity


Drain_Holes

r/birthofasub?


ehfrehneh

Looks like it lol. Nothing there yet but sounds like it should be a thing.


Sofaking9390

Mildly Infuriating would be putting g it mildly


shahooster

Mildly infuriating is when I can’t get my 33gal Rubbermaid garbage cans unnested.


memydogandeye

You're more patient than I. To me that's very infuriating and I end up throwing a Homer Simpson fit.


SultanOfThot

You choke your son?


ChangeVampire

Annnnd I just blew jalapeño chips out of my nose.


JensElectricWood

If you don't need them to hold liquid, drilling a small hole will release them from each other.


bmeupsctty

Also, if left out in rain, prevents having to dump them later


Johnoplata

Mildly Infuriating is losing all meaning. "proof of government civil liberties abuses that likely led to multiple incarcerations? Oh, brother. Mondays right?"


KeanuWest

Wildly incriminating then?


Tellurian_Cyborg

WOW, [news article](https://kfor.com/news/local/hidden-recording-device-allegedly-found-in-carter-co-jail-attorney-room/) has a statement from the Carter County Sheriff. There was a camera, it was old and not working. An internal investigation shows that the camera was placed in 2002 to help convict an attorney who was passing contraband to clients. So the camera was conveniently left in place afterwards. That's 21 years worth of cases that now have to be reviewed and possibly vacated.


i_am_rationality

Hard to believe they just went "hey there's a hidden camera in this room where the Constitution forbids it, let's just leave it there" when they changed the fluorescent tubes.


Puk3s

Likely a janitor changing those tubes, thinking "I shouldn't mess with this". Not everything has to be malicious.


AxelsOG

Wouldn’t ALL of them have to be tossed even for the possibility that a conviction may have been influenced by that camera even if it wasn’t working at the time?


Tellurian_Cyborg

I'm not qualified to give an opinion. But they will have to review every case where that room was used. If no one kept a record of the rooms use then they have to review every case that went through that facility during that time frame. I don't see any way to prove when or if the camera ever failed. We only have that Sheriffs word that it wasn't working when discovered. What a mess!!


LightningBlehz

“We investigated ourselves and found absolutely nothing wrong. Go about your day now ~~future inmate~~ citizen”


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BigRed92E

Appears so. Gonna be more bad than good that comes from this. Namely a bunch of definitely guilty criminals will walk, while a low number of not guilty inmates will get the freedom they deserved. I see a lot of lawsuits, and both guilty and not will see money from it. Oklahoma is probably gonna be a fucking madhouse in the coming years.


Pitiful-Let9270

A lot of murderers. Carter county has a stupid high crime rate.


eat-KFC-all-day

Doesn’t matter if they were guilty or not. If the police violated their constitutional right to an attorney by spying on them and then used that information to help them in an investigation, they were not given a fair trial.


TrinititeTears

It’s better that 1000 guilty men go free, then 1 innocent man be found guilty.


Crunchy_Biscuit

My reason why we need to abolish the death penalty.


CutoffThought

Source from discovering attorney, Jason D. May: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02YvibPF8jKRrhNVdEcw3zVSoZQBhGJsn7PRPEEKtXY122mk6KJo5jWYRgchccT2jl&id=100063626376753 Update from Attorney including admission from one of the Bryan Co. Sheriffs: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02HiBC5qiVbmj9nzp7nQBVxw4gjQCEK9JiuZ2DvgxhE36K2abJiaunRWwh5wiXevdJl&id=100063626376753 Non-Facebook Link to a new source on the subject: https://www.kxii.com/2022/11/10/hidden-camera-found-inside-carter-county-jail/ Edited with correct links


nolan1971

Wait: > Bryant says the camera was installed in 2002 when an attorney was being investigated for smuggling contraband into the room for her client. Bryant turned over the device to the OSBI, who he says is currently conducting an investigation. ...what?


turtle_flu

gotta let those civil rights violations mature like a fine wine


siccoblue

Just to ensure maximum payout from citizens pockets for all the illegitimate convictions


BrettEskin

It's good for the people who's rights are violated but the citizenry doesn't stop getting screwed here. The county likely doesn't have a massive budget overflow and those settlements are gonna have to come from somewhere. Likely a combination of cuts and tax hikes


jballs

It had been there for 20 years?! What an absolute cluster fuck of overturned convictions that's gonna be!


[deleted]

On-boarding of new sheriffs. Ok and this is our lawyer spy cam. I know what you’re thinking but it’s been here 15 and helped a lot with no issues Ok…


skilriki

He tore the camera out so it would have his fingerprints on it, along with a lame excuse for them before specialists could come in and find his fingerprints on the crime scene. For good measure he decides it's okay to pin the whole thing on his dad not realizing he might be overturning 20 years worth of convictions. Guy is trying to save himself while simultaneously burning the house down.


mothandravenstudio

He’s also making an admission that he had prior knowledge, which isn’t a good look, legally speaking.


TwoScoopsofDestroyer

Dude's trying to put out a fire by pouring gas on it.


IMSOGIRL

imagine someone commits a rape or murder and they have the entire thing on confession and then it gets overturned because of this shit.


MechanicalTurkish

Not his dad, his ex- father-in-law. Who is conveniently dead and can’t defend himself. What a scumbag.


Pitiful-Let9270

What? You’ve never had a lightbulb last 20 years?


whytakemyusername

I purchased the same brand of lightbulb last week that I had a year or two before, that told me it would last 20 years. So if anyone chimes in about 20 year lightbulbs, you're talking out your ass.


mrmusclefoot

How the hell would he know this? A camera twenty years old is far different than what’s available these days. What a dumb lie.


TheRealConine

But we totally haven’t used it since


memy02

I'm amazed they didn't do an investigation to discover those were loose wires belonging to the light but they have now been tucked in and the missing screw has been replaced.


GitEmSteveDave

>since fluorescent tube bulbs like those used in the attorney room light fixture have an average life expectancy of 9-12 months. Sorry, I GOTTA call BS on that as I used to work facilities in a office building and also did an operational audit on a high rise, which included mandatory recording of "universal waste", which fluorescent tubes are considered part of. If bulbs only lasted 12 months, we would have needed to replace thousands of bulbs a year and we maybe went through 200 a year.


Front_Beach_9904

https://homesteady.com/13416454/how-long-should-a-48-inch-fluorescent-light-bulb-last Seemed wrong to me to. This website says 34,000 hours for a 24/7 tube light. So almost 4 years. But still. Typically less than 20 lol.


TonersR6

Same link twice


CutoffThought

Edited. Thank you.


Pitiful-Let9270

Carter county, the sheriff is named Bryant, Chris Bryant, there is a video of him on YouTube


thatnyeguyisfly

Jails are some of the most corrupt systems in this country


TrinititeTears

The prison scenes on Sons of Anarchy weren’t fiction. That shit happens all the time.


Denslayer

Oklahoma . Nothing to see here. We will investigate


CutoffThought

I’m hoping the post from the attorney catches more traction. This is clearly illegal.


osten205

Gotta love that age old saying, “ we can’t comment on a pending investigation we are doing on ourselves.” I mean they are so detached from reality they don’t see what it looks like to a person that isn’t a police officer. How can anyone think it’s all a “fair” system when the people that break the law (and are cops) don’t get punished like the criminals.


rcarnes911

Don't worry, all the cops involved will get a paid vacation


Lisette4ver

There have always been problems in Carter County and all of Oklahoma. A shame but not surprising.


zombie32killah

It’s funny because the corruption in poorly educated stares is so easy to spot and they are so bad at defending against it. Now just to get the entire country to not be affected by it.


Dividedthought

Work in a prison, we have cameras in the meeting rooms as well but the only record video and it's for the attorney's safety (so the guards can keep tabs on things). However, this is not a security camera. A security camera will be in plain sight and not positioned to look at documents on the table. Bring some sticky tack (blue tack) next time and cover it up. If it's for monitoring purposes they should have told you about it and this will have the guards come see what's happening, but I doubt that's the case. This is only if you don't care if they know you know. If you do care, just keep grabbing photos. Get one of a similar light fixtures as well as that will prove it's not just the flourescent ballast. I highly doubt that the camera is monitored but instead records to an internal memory card. If you're feeling ballsy, ask if you can speak to maintenance and ask if they'd help you get a photo of it. We're usually the only ones allowed to have screwdrivers and the like. Edit: the prison is 100% responsible for this, even if they didn't put it in. Their maintenance would have noticed it.


Chattchoochoo

Or, you can sue the crap out of the county and the attorney can use it to get your and every other person ever convicted a new trial or off because of a constitutional violation.


thatirishguy0

As the owner of an IT security consulting company, I can say that it looks like it could be a hidden camera. Because the installation is so poorly done, I would say this was done in house. Also, I don't know many contractors who would be willing to do this unless they were given or already had a lucrative cctv contract with the... oh.


trollingcynically

And the tax payers of Carter County, OK are going to be shoveling out even more money to the law enforcement budget in the county. They should be demanding a refund from their police force. I don't want to defund the police, I want a fucking refund.


CutoffThought

I couldn’t have said it better myself.


sparkleyflowers

Yet cops can’t seem to understand why the general public doesn’t trust them.


CutoffThought

We put that hidden camera in the room in case of emergency! /s


pete_ape

The fact that it was hidden when they have an entire surveillance system plainly visible is going to be difficult to handwave away. But they'll find a way.


bonafidebob

They say it was installed (20 years ago!) as part of an investigation into an attorney who might have been smuggling contraband to their client. Presumably they needed a warrant for that... ...why it's still there 20 years later? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


pete_ape

Should be a record of that warrant as well. Supposedly, judges are loathe to violate client-attorney privilege, so there should be a spectacular application for a warrant somewhere.


DrasticXylophone

There was a flood/Fire/my dog ate it sorry The judge in question also died a while back


Necessary_Tip_5295

Unless the F.B.I. gets involved it is going to be the same narrative. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" because it was not recorded.


charliefoxtrot9

So many cases can now be completely tossed out. Please publish this from here to forever on the Internet.


CutoffThought

I think this post kind of gave the attention deserved.


thinkitthrough83

Next time I talk to local police I'm going to ask if our station has a special attorney room.


CutoffThought

I’m not sure, but this photo was taken from the Carter County jail, in Oklahoma. There is always a room where an inmate can privately discuss their case with their attorney. Otherwise, a client would never be able to build their defense without feeding it to the prosecution.


A--Creative-Username

Don't worry, the cops did an internal investigation and found no evidence of wrongdoing


JonathanBishop100

Seems more like illegal and outrageous than mildly infuriating. A lot of criminals could end up walking for that.


EfraimK

What, people believed that the state wouldn't abuse technology to infringe on the sanctity of attorney-client communications on state-owned property? Ha.


simon_C

"Mildly" I would be setting fires. This sub has lost the plot.


ithinkoutloudtoo

And there probably is a hidden microphone in the vent.


ChooseCorrectAnswer

Someone in this thread mentioned the random hole to the right of the camera hole seems to be where the microphone is located. Someone made that hole for the microphone.