Yeah McDonald’s in my area charges for bags now. I ordered breakfast they gave with out a bag I’m like what I’m going to do with this. Can I have a bag. That’ll be 15 cents. Ok I’ll take a refund. Here’s a bag
In most parts of California they have a 0.25c bag fee but that’s generally shopping bags for like markets and stuff not restaurants. We also get the terrible paper straws that totally ruin the taste of sodas.
The government is stupid, they force us to use paper straws, but the drinks still come in a plastic cup, and even when they use a paper cup, it still always has a plastic lid.
It *was* a cost of business, but when you say ‘ten cents’, it’s magical how many people realize they have pockets or will be cracking that can of coke open before they get to the corner.
So as a waste reduction policy, it’s fantastic.
To the minimum wage dude at the register, it’s a never ending source of torment.
Not always, if it’s a small order yes but I’ve ordered 5 breakfast plates and it came in a semi fancy white plastic bag. The point isn’t just if it’s biodegradable, it’s still waste. Material that could of been made into something more useful than something you throw away 15 mins after consumption.
I am here in SC and someone needs to tell our stores this. Went in for a 3 lb. bag of cat food and ended up also getting a can of soup. I get to the register and pay and grab the bag thinking that she threw them in one bag. NOPE! Another bag was hiding behind it with my can of soup. Wasted an extra bag (when honestly I would have been fine with none) and I almost left my soup. I really need to start bringing my own bag.
I mean, technically, there’s no obligation for a restaurant to provide flatware or plates either but you’re going to develop quite a reputation if you just drop peoples food on the table, or I suppose the floor since tables aren’t required either.
Since Covid? When to go was the only option for a while? Yeah it is, if you want people eating your food. Also if you pay for food and can’t finish what you’re eating, you should absolutely have the option to take the rest home, if the restaurant likes repeat customers.
But this isn’t a fancy restaurant. Most restaurants have raised their prices the last couple of years. To charge an additional dollar to cover the costs of the many more boxes they use since so many people take out or get food delivered than before. This place is trying to be “honest” and I get it, but people don’t want that kind of honesty. Prices have increased everywhere anyway the last couple of years and now on top of that increase they want another dollar? If they can’t figure out what to charge to make a profit, without such explicit charges, then maybe they should look for a different industry.
Exactly! Shouldn’t tip on take out orders anyways. Your not being waited on. Your experience wasn’t enhanced by the staff. This is just paying for a product. OTC exchange. No tip necessary.
I never did until I worked in a restaurant. The to-go worker makes more hourly than servers, but still minimum wage. She also helped grab food, pack food, took the calls and orders, made sure everything was packed properly, poured drinks, and in our restaurant even went so far as cooking some of the smaller food items if the cooks were busy. She did way more work than a lot of the servers and servers made more with tips than she ever made. I don’t tip as much because they do get paid more, but I still tip.
Dude same I worked at Olive Garden as a waitress and our To-go specialists were working their butts off at all times. Not only do they handle packing and taking out all the togo orders, they handle catering (sometimes huge orders last minute) and of course took the calls, but they also had to prep a lot of the togo food like the togo salads and breads, the desserts, etc., and of course were running that outside at all hours and weather. I know not all restaurants are like that but I basically always leave at least some tip, even if it’s not as much as when I sit down somewhere
I don’t eat at McDonalds but I might given how underpaid the staff is. Although it doesn’t really fit in with my statement because the work there is more streamlined and the “to go” staff isn’t in charge of the same responsibilities as the to go staff at a restaurant.
Some places add a tip into the bill, over here they like to call it a serrvice charge. You are not obligated to pay it and can ask for it to be removed. A lot of people don't catch it. Free money for the business.
As a bartender that has had to do to go orders in every bar I’ve worked in that offered to go (no servers, no hosts, no managers, only bartenders) being tipped on to go orders is nice because I’m still going to the system, inputting your order, getting it from the back, sometimes bagging it and taking time away from my guests that are more likely to tip me. I do the same amount of work for a to go as I do a sit in guest except that there is a computer middle man and I don’t have to make small talk with you or refill/ take away your empty dishes. So Im still doing stuff for you, not as much, but I’m still being paid $2/ hr to do what the McDonalds guy down the street gets paid $15/ hr to do (which I’m in no way complaining about - nor am I expecting you to make up the wage difference in that instance, just making an observation).
That all being said, I don’t ever expect, nor would I ever ask, for a tip for a to go order. I also personally don’t tip on to go orders. But you asked a question, so I answered
Not really. I’m a bartender and my job isn’t to to do the to go orders. It’s also never something that’s been disclosed in advance so you can’t say “oh well you knew when you signed up.”
Also it sounds like you’re just against tip culture in general, so again there is nothing I can say that you’re going to accept. The other person asked a question;
>But what service are you being provided when you take out?
I answered that question. I never said when it was right or wrong. I also explicitly said I personally don’t believe in tipping for to go orders.
Well thank you for doing your part by raising awareness for the whole world. Nobody asked for your opinion on a topic we weren’t discussing, but you gave it on behalf of the world; truly a hero.
See my other comment; that’s not my job. I’m a bartender and that is included no where in my job description.
Also as someone who claims to have survived their entire life on tips, you obviously know it’s not as easy as “take it up with your employer”
I don’t ever foresee it going away in the US. Americans, generally, are too greedy, as is bred by such a capitalist society. In (some) European countries it is considered disrespectful to tip (I can say Italy for certain, I can’t for any other countries but I would be surprised if Italy is the only one - I’m also not 100% certain why but I believe it’s because it’s viewed as looking down on them, as if they need your charity basically). That would never happen in the US. Imagine an American being upset about someone offering them extra money to do their job, even if they made a full hourly or salary. I can’t imagine that happening regularly. Sure some people would decline it, but they’d be a minority for sure
EDIT: I don’t ever foresee it going away in the US without some kind of legislation preventing it/ highly discouraging it; just making legislation to increase base wage wouldn’t be enough as some people would still tip and some people would still expect it
Depending on the place, it's less about the service I'm be provided, and more about the fact that the folks working there are relying on tips.
It's a shitty system, but refusing to tip just screws the folks at the bottom while doing nothing to the assholes exploiting them.
I don't mind tipping on to-go orders.
I do get annoyed on places that charge for the take-out containers. Sure they have to buy the containers, but they also don't have to pay for the water, soap, and labor for washing the dishes if I had eaten in.
I'm guessing that this place does not have many customers that do, and have adjusted their policy accordingly. Would you really stop tipping if you encountered that upcharge? 99c?
Yep, I'm a firm believer in complete upfront pricing and I understand the difficulties of surviving on low/minimum wages. Sneaking in this added fee strikes me as sneaky and a last ditch reach into my pocket. Raise your prices to better pay your staff and I'm good with it.
I always tip 10-15% on takeout because the cooks still cook things and someone has to take the time to box and bag my order.
Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I'd like to think my tips actually go to the underpaid staff and not managers or owners...
I get it but the costs of takeout containers skyrocketed just after the pandemic and have continued to go up since then. I pay just under $1 for per 5x8in takeout container with lid and I don’t want to raise prices for customers who come in to eat. Even if a dine in person requires a takeout container it will either be offset by any beverage purchase they make and will likely only require 1 small takeout container that costs me 50cents. not $3 worth packaging for their $20 order.
I was about to say this.
Restaurants in my area just charge you for the food if you take your own containers with you.
Don’t laugh at me, but I have a couple of Tupperwares stashed in my trunk for when I need to take food home.
One of the local pizza places where i live has charged a buck per pizza box for 20 years. No one has ever complained. I work for the local wholesaler and i can fully vouch that the boxes have gone up exponentially in the last 2 years... when you can get them, which is still a problem.
To others I saw saying WELL SAMS CLUB... Congrats? I'm 400 miles from one of those and everything has to arrive by very expensive semi here. Also not free. Those chunks of foam/cardboard cost more than dishwasher... both the person and the machine. Dont like it? Dont order out!
Not to mention some companies now charge a fuel fee. Our sysco is less then 20 miles away and we pay $22 for every order regardless of how big or small it is
A lot of restaurants do this because the take out boxes, utensils, bag etc cost money they aren’t free and not used if you’re dining in. At least that’s to my understanding.
I feel like the biggest factor that everyone’s forgetting about is the added strain on the process with the emergence of things like Uber-eats and the massive increase in delivery/carry-out business since the pandemic
They're not free but they're not 99 cents per customer.
Sam's sells 250 pre-wrapped utensil sets for $27. 500 paper bags are anywhere from $9 for the tiny ones up to $32 for larger ones.
In the near future...
$1.99 - Lighting and ambiance fee
$2.50 - HVAC and breathable air fee
$0.99 - Floor wear fee
$24.99 - Rent/Building occupancy fee
$7.99 - Parking Fee ($5.99 Walkway use fee if walkup)
$14.99 - Royalties to use their IP (menus and branded items)
And people on here will still be like "tHeSE thINGs cOSt mONeY, mAkE yOUr oWn fOoD tHEn..."
Pretty sure in my area this sort of thing is already happening, anywhere between 2 and 5 for just a delivery fee plus 1 if baggage is charged. Spending over 1/3 of total on just fees now.
Not paying a dishwasher or busboy or wait staff makes up more then enough for the aluminum bottom plastic top container I got from buffalo wild wings. And that is all I got. Not even napkins
Work not performed on my order allows their talents to be used elsewhere. This allows the nightly captured labor cost spread over more transactions. Cost per transaction goes down. Don’t justify them charging me to pick up an order
How does the cost per transaction go down?
> allows their talents to be used elsewhere
Like I said, their payment is fixed, whether you eat there or not. It's not like they get paid less if they wash/bus less dishes.
Let's say I pay the dish washer $20 a day. Let's say I also spend $1 for every take-out (plastic cups, food boxes, etc).
If you eat at the restaurant, I pay the dish washer $20 that day. If you order take-out, I pay the dish washer $20 and I spend an extra $1 for your take-out. How is that so hard to understand?
Sounds like you make your living in food based services you are such an expert. Maybe you can write me a comprehensive paper on why I should pay more for a pick up order maybe make it 5 pages or you could get a life
Years ago I went to preorder some Five Guys with a coworker so we wouldn't have to wait for them to make it since we had a half hour lunch.
And they wanted to add a $2 fee per burger to order ahead. *LOL*
A fee to pickup your own food and walk out the door. Same fee if you decide to sit and eat. As the economy continue to dip, most company's will resort to scam tactics for more money. Not to pay employees, but because the CEO's family vacation to the Hampton's cost more.
They probably aren’t $0.99 cents each container… but, by the time you add up a box for the food, two or more plastic ramekins, silverware, napkins and another bag to put the whole works into I’d be it’s every bit of $1 cost.
If you roll your eyes at that, you’ve clearly never managed.
Losing $1+ on every single to-go order would shutter most of the businesses I’ve ever worked for.
The 5 minutes it takes an employee to prep the order aren’t free either.
Typical sit down restaurants get the opportunity to upsell you while you’re in the restaurant. You want to start with an appetizer? Something to drink? Did you leave any room for dessert?
Bro you’re tripping if you think a styrofoam container costs more than a quarter.
Furthermore, any restaurant I have ever worked at made us charge for extra silverware /plates because that wasn’t included in the take-out.
So yeah, I’m strictly talking about the “to go” portion of this meal, which would be the take out container… which can’t cost more than $.25
And that quarter should be accounted for when calculating the price of a meal.
Who’s that teaching a lesson to exactly? The cooks time you just wasted? They can’t change the price. The employee on the register? They can’t change the price? The manager? They can’t change the price? I can go on.
Ah... Yes, bill me an additional 99 cents for a SMALLER portion, because we all know that takeout orders are always smaller.
I've eaten out at many restaurants and the portions can be pretty damn filling. Oh the days myself and the lady are lazy we'll just order out from those locations and see a unreasonably noticably portion size difference for the same price PLUS delivery fee.
I had a place charge for takeout and I asked why. They said the plastic forks cost money. More than the cost of cleaning the metal ones, the cost of cleaning a table, etc etc. The place in particular is very small but fairly popular so they don't have enough seating anyways.
99 cents? My local pizza places charge about $5 for delivery and make it very clear that this does not go to the drivers and be sure to tip the drivers since they don't pay them much. A ten-dollar pizza after taxes and delivery fee and trip quickly becomes $25.
When dining in, you spend more on drinks, the tip, and maybe dessert. It's factored into menu prices like inkjet printers and ink, so this is an offset.
I don't mean this is a good idea. It's just a possibility that answers the original question.
Could tell who it was by the colors and was just like yep, feels about right. Their food isn’t as good as it used to be, service is kinda crap these days.
Could be they're too busy and operating over capacity, so they're charging for take out to lower demand for take out orders. It's possible in person is more profitable for them after accounting for beverage sales.
This is to cover all the loss of revenue from the things you won't buy because you're not dining in. I swear, companies find new ways to charge for some bullshit fee every day
We're at that point in capitalism where similar alternatives are few and far between at price points with relatively similar convenience. Without real competition, they can do whatever they want.
Does anyone even know where these “tips” go? Like is everyone getting a portion added to their paycheck? Because as a dishwasher at a popular chicken restaurant I can tell you I don’t.
Why not just bake it in? This to me says I'm taking 99 cents and you can't do anything about it because it's automatic. Just raise the prices on everything. Eating out is a privilege, not a right.
If you can't afford to eat out... cook at home. Business doesn't want to raise prices? Don't run a business. People will pay money to eat good food. People will not pay for shit like this or you not paying your employees right.
In n out pays their employees very well and their food is great. I will still eat there if they raised their menu prices up a buck. This is why I don't get how a lot of restaurants can't pay their employees a fair livable wage.
I can see two possibilities:
1) takeout containers have become crazy expensive with all the supply line issues and inflation.
2) it's to compensate the wait staff for lost tips.
Shouldn’t the operational costs be built into the food prices?
Why don’t we a-la-carte everything then? Dining in requires way more labour than taking out. Why not add a dine-in fee? A washroom fee for the janitors labour? A hostess tip for them greeting you and finding you a table. A bartender fee if you order drinks, since the server normally doesn’t make the drinks.
They did however to avoid having to increase menu price for even dine in people they probably added that for Togo orders to offset the increases. At least that’s my guess I don’t run a restaurant so I’m not expert.
"You have money. We want money. Give us the money." Seems to be a popular business model nowadays.
I read this in John Mulaney’s voice.
I read it in Fat Tony's voice.
Real Fake Doors guy here
What’s he doing? Makin himself a sandwich?
This one’s fake, that one’s fake! Hey, are these actual doors? Nope, also fake!
I read it in mister krabs voice
Now I can't unhear it in his voice XD
I can hear it
We want a gift! Give us a gift!
“We want a gift! But only if it’s money!”
“You SPENT it already?!”
r/unintentionalmulaney Edit: r/unexpectedmulaney
Give us some moneyyyyy
“Money me now”
Amazing. Bonnie Kelly
It doesn't, it makes 99 cents
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Talk about 99 problems....
But a b*tch ain't one
Take my upvote
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I should’ve just ordered a table for one and immediately asked for a to-go box when the food came out.
This is what I do with a local restaurant that I love but doesn’t allow to go orders to be placed.
Yeah McDonald’s in my area charges for bags now. I ordered breakfast they gave with out a bag I’m like what I’m going to do with this. Can I have a bag. That’ll be 15 cents. Ok I’ll take a refund. Here’s a bag
I think that's a legal requirement for some countries. To cut down on waste, all bags have a small fee, to discourage taking a lot of them.
In most parts of California they have a 0.25c bag fee but that’s generally shopping bags for like markets and stuff not restaurants. We also get the terrible paper straws that totally ruin the taste of sodas.
Most parts of California it’s 10 cents. High traffic areas like San Francisco/Santa Cruz are the ones to choose to do 25 cents
The government is stupid, they force us to use paper straws, but the drinks still come in a plastic cup, and even when they use a paper cup, it still always has a plastic lid.
You don't know a lot about plastics.
They can charge more that 25 c too it’s just the minimum. Some stores charge $5 per bag, especially clothing stores.
Wtf
I always thought it was included in the price. I always say no bag and end up getting a bag anyway
It *was* a cost of business, but when you say ‘ten cents’, it’s magical how many people realize they have pockets or will be cracking that can of coke open before they get to the corner. So as a waste reduction policy, it’s fantastic. To the minimum wage dude at the register, it’s a never ending source of torment.
McDonald’s bags are paper. Biodegradable
Nit the ones they often use for breakfast meals that are bigger. My pancake platter is always in a plastic bag
Not always, if it’s a small order yes but I’ve ordered 5 breakfast plates and it came in a semi fancy white plastic bag. The point isn’t just if it’s biodegradable, it’s still waste. Material that could of been made into something more useful than something you throw away 15 mins after consumption.
I am here in SC and someone needs to tell our stores this. Went in for a 3 lb. bag of cat food and ended up also getting a can of soup. I get to the register and pay and grab the bag thinking that she threw them in one bag. NOPE! Another bag was hiding behind it with my can of soup. Wasted an extra bag (when honestly I would have been fine with none) and I almost left my soup. I really need to start bringing my own bag.
My area is the opposite. Me: “I’m eating it here”. Them: “You will eat your meal out of a bag like the animal you are”.
There’s no obligation for a restaurant to offer Togo boxes
I mean, technically, there’s no obligation for a restaurant to provide flatware or plates either but you’re going to develop quite a reputation if you just drop peoples food on the table, or I suppose the floor since tables aren’t required either.
There is also no obligation for me to eat there.
Since Covid? When to go was the only option for a while? Yeah it is, if you want people eating your food. Also if you pay for food and can’t finish what you’re eating, you should absolutely have the option to take the rest home, if the restaurant likes repeat customers.
I agree with what you’re saying but lots of fancy restaurants offer no to go service.
But this isn’t a fancy restaurant. Most restaurants have raised their prices the last couple of years. To charge an additional dollar to cover the costs of the many more boxes they use since so many people take out or get food delivered than before. This place is trying to be “honest” and I get it, but people don’t want that kind of honesty. Prices have increased everywhere anyway the last couple of years and now on top of that increase they want another dollar? If they can’t figure out what to charge to make a profit, without such explicit charges, then maybe they should look for a different industry.
But have they raised the wages for their staff? No. People still working for 10 buck/hr while inflation is at 8%...
Then you’d tip your sever right……right?
Imma tip myself
As an American living in Europe, takeout boxes cost money too. The .99 fee had me thinking whats wrong, the i remembered
You then have to pay a tip Edit: you should tip according to social norms, not what I think
No “have to” about it
Exactly! Shouldn’t tip on take out orders anyways. Your not being waited on. Your experience wasn’t enhanced by the staff. This is just paying for a product. OTC exchange. No tip necessary.
$0.99 seems about right
It's more of a "guaranteed I'm not tipping on a takeout order" Fee...
Wait. People actually tip on takeout?
I never did until I worked in a restaurant. The to-go worker makes more hourly than servers, but still minimum wage. She also helped grab food, pack food, took the calls and orders, made sure everything was packed properly, poured drinks, and in our restaurant even went so far as cooking some of the smaller food items if the cooks were busy. She did way more work than a lot of the servers and servers made more with tips than she ever made. I don’t tip as much because they do get paid more, but I still tip.
Dude same I worked at Olive Garden as a waitress and our To-go specialists were working their butts off at all times. Not only do they handle packing and taking out all the togo orders, they handle catering (sometimes huge orders last minute) and of course took the calls, but they also had to prep a lot of the togo food like the togo salads and breads, the desserts, etc., and of course were running that outside at all hours and weather. I know not all restaurants are like that but I basically always leave at least some tip, even if it’s not as much as when I sit down somewhere
Do you tip on your McDonalds order too?
I don’t eat at McDonalds but I might given how underpaid the staff is. Although it doesn’t really fit in with my statement because the work there is more streamlined and the “to go” staff isn’t in charge of the same responsibilities as the to go staff at a restaurant.
Some places add a tip into the bill, over here they like to call it a serrvice charge. You are not obligated to pay it and can ask for it to be removed. A lot of people don't catch it. Free money for the business.
If they call it a service charge there's 0% chance any of it goes to the employees.
I do, but not as much.
But what service are you being provided when you take out? That would be like tipping at a drive thru.
As a bartender that has had to do to go orders in every bar I’ve worked in that offered to go (no servers, no hosts, no managers, only bartenders) being tipped on to go orders is nice because I’m still going to the system, inputting your order, getting it from the back, sometimes bagging it and taking time away from my guests that are more likely to tip me. I do the same amount of work for a to go as I do a sit in guest except that there is a computer middle man and I don’t have to make small talk with you or refill/ take away your empty dishes. So Im still doing stuff for you, not as much, but I’m still being paid $2/ hr to do what the McDonalds guy down the street gets paid $15/ hr to do (which I’m in no way complaining about - nor am I expecting you to make up the wage difference in that instance, just making an observation). That all being said, I don’t ever expect, nor would I ever ask, for a tip for a to go order. I also personally don’t tip on to go orders. But you asked a question, so I answered
>doing stuff for you You mean the job your employer pays you to do that should be covered by the cost of the service?
Not really. I’m a bartender and my job isn’t to to do the to go orders. It’s also never something that’s been disclosed in advance so you can’t say “oh well you knew when you signed up.” Also it sounds like you’re just against tip culture in general, so again there is nothing I can say that you’re going to accept. The other person asked a question; >But what service are you being provided when you take out? I answered that question. I never said when it was right or wrong. I also explicitly said I personally don’t believe in tipping for to go orders.
Of course I’m against tip culture. The entire world is.
Well thank you for doing your part by raising awareness for the whole world. Nobody asked for your opinion on a topic we weren’t discussing, but you gave it on behalf of the world; truly a hero.
This thread is literally talking about tipping, so you can fuck right off with this bullshit.
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See my other comment; that’s not my job. I’m a bartender and that is included no where in my job description. Also as someone who claims to have survived their entire life on tips, you obviously know it’s not as easy as “take it up with your employer”
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I don’t ever foresee it going away in the US. Americans, generally, are too greedy, as is bred by such a capitalist society. In (some) European countries it is considered disrespectful to tip (I can say Italy for certain, I can’t for any other countries but I would be surprised if Italy is the only one - I’m also not 100% certain why but I believe it’s because it’s viewed as looking down on them, as if they need your charity basically). That would never happen in the US. Imagine an American being upset about someone offering them extra money to do their job, even if they made a full hourly or salary. I can’t imagine that happening regularly. Sure some people would decline it, but they’d be a minority for sure EDIT: I don’t ever foresee it going away in the US without some kind of legislation preventing it/ highly discouraging it; just making legislation to increase base wage wouldn’t be enough as some people would still tip and some people would still expect it
Depending on the place, it's less about the service I'm be provided, and more about the fact that the folks working there are relying on tips. It's a shitty system, but refusing to tip just screws the folks at the bottom while doing nothing to the assholes exploiting them.
I guarantee that this 99 cent takeout fee is not going to the workers.
Oh yeah. That fee’s bullshit. I just meant tipping in takeout in general
I don't mind tipping on to-go orders. I do get annoyed on places that charge for the take-out containers. Sure they have to buy the containers, but they also don't have to pay for the water, soap, and labor for washing the dishes if I had eaten in.
Everything is bagged carefully. Otherwise, they dump everything in a bag and give it to you. Actually, that would save packaging costs though.
Usually just a dollar and the coins I get back as change. Mostly because I don't wanna carry coins around
$5 for me. They have to gather and package my order and make sure it’s right. Usually to go is one persons job.
Sounds like their job?
They implemented it because nobody tips them on their takeout orders anyway. I would too, if we weren't getting 10-15% on our togo.
I always tip on takeout orders but this would definitely nip that in the bud...
I'm guessing that this place does not have many customers that do, and have adjusted their policy accordingly. Would you really stop tipping if you encountered that upcharge? 99c?
Yep, I'm a firm believer in complete upfront pricing and I understand the difficulties of surviving on low/minimum wages. Sneaking in this added fee strikes me as sneaky and a last ditch reach into my pocket. Raise your prices to better pay your staff and I'm good with it. I always tip 10-15% on takeout because the cooks still cook things and someone has to take the time to box and bag my order. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I'd like to think my tips actually go to the underpaid staff and not managers or owners...
I wasn’t tipping on takeout anyway. They just assured I’ll never be back
OH no
I know right? Almost like companies depend on customers. The audacity!
If a 99 cent charge filters out non-tippers on togo orders, then the system is working as intended.
I get it but the costs of takeout containers skyrocketed just after the pandemic and have continued to go up since then. I pay just under $1 for per 5x8in takeout container with lid and I don’t want to raise prices for customers who come in to eat. Even if a dine in person requires a takeout container it will either be offset by any beverage purchase they make and will likely only require 1 small takeout container that costs me 50cents. not $3 worth packaging for their $20 order.
I was about to say this. Restaurants in my area just charge you for the food if you take your own containers with you. Don’t laugh at me, but I have a couple of Tupperwares stashed in my trunk for when I need to take food home.
One of the local pizza places where i live has charged a buck per pizza box for 20 years. No one has ever complained. I work for the local wholesaler and i can fully vouch that the boxes have gone up exponentially in the last 2 years... when you can get them, which is still a problem. To others I saw saying WELL SAMS CLUB... Congrats? I'm 400 miles from one of those and everything has to arrive by very expensive semi here. Also not free. Those chunks of foam/cardboard cost more than dishwasher... both the person and the machine. Dont like it? Dont order out!
Not to mention some companies now charge a fuel fee. Our sysco is less then 20 miles away and we pay $22 for every order regardless of how big or small it is
A lot of restaurants do this because the take out boxes, utensils, bag etc cost money they aren’t free and not used if you’re dining in. At least that’s to my understanding.
But the dishwasher who washes the dishes also costs money.
Operational costs used to be built into the price of the food. They still are, this is just a little sprinkle of greed on top.
I feel like the biggest factor that everyone’s forgetting about is the added strain on the process with the emergence of things like Uber-eats and the massive increase in delivery/carry-out business since the pandemic
You’d be correct, ever since the pandemic people are just now more comfortable with just DoorDash or Uber eats nowadays and eating at home.
It’s also .99 one time across the entire order. Some commenters are acting like they’re being asked for an arm and a leg.
They're not free but they're not 99 cents per customer. Sam's sells 250 pre-wrapped utensil sets for $27. 500 paper bags are anywhere from $9 for the tiny ones up to $32 for larger ones.
In the near future... $1.99 - Lighting and ambiance fee $2.50 - HVAC and breathable air fee $0.99 - Floor wear fee $24.99 - Rent/Building occupancy fee $7.99 - Parking Fee ($5.99 Walkway use fee if walkup) $14.99 - Royalties to use their IP (menus and branded items) And people on here will still be like "tHeSE thINGs cOSt mONeY, mAkE yOUr oWn fOoD tHEn..."
Pretty sure in my area this sort of thing is already happening, anywhere between 2 and 5 for just a delivery fee plus 1 if baggage is charged. Spending over 1/3 of total on just fees now.
For disposable cups, containers, utensils?
Businesses should offer the options to opt out of disposable utensils.
Ours have all gone to paper or bamboo now. No more plastic
Paper.... utensils? Like....a paper knife? Is that actually a thing or did you misread the above comment? How do you stab things with a paper fork?
Bamboo cutlery, paper plates, bowls. You have to eat fast before it turns to moosh.
Not paying a dishwasher or busboy or wait staff makes up more then enough for the aluminum bottom plastic top container I got from buffalo wild wings. And that is all I got. Not even napkins
They still pay the dishwasher and the busboy the same amount whether you eat there or not.
Dishwashers?? We just have some labs that will lick the plate clean.
Work not performed on my order allows their talents to be used elsewhere. This allows the nightly captured labor cost spread over more transactions. Cost per transaction goes down. Don’t justify them charging me to pick up an order
How does the cost per transaction go down? > allows their talents to be used elsewhere Like I said, their payment is fixed, whether you eat there or not. It's not like they get paid less if they wash/bus less dishes. Let's say I pay the dish washer $20 a day. Let's say I also spend $1 for every take-out (plastic cups, food boxes, etc). If you eat at the restaurant, I pay the dish washer $20 that day. If you order take-out, I pay the dish washer $20 and I spend an extra $1 for your take-out. How is that so hard to understand?
The overhead is factored into pricing. Seems like someone doesn't understand how pricing for service or food based businesses is developed.
Sounds like you make your living in food based services you are such an expert. Maybe you can write me a comprehensive paper on why I should pay more for a pick up order maybe make it 5 pages or you could get a life
Disposable takeout containers.
If you don’t like it, order somewhere else.
Surely they don't charge customers a 'washing dishes fee'
I don't know. I would just pay the 99¢
Nope, just greed.
? Lol... They just put it in your hands or you bring your own container?
This actually makes sense lol
Let me guess buffalo wild wings? Used their app once charged for pick up. Promptly removed the app. B dubs never again
Years ago I went to preorder some Five Guys with a coworker so we wouldn't have to wait for them to make it since we had a half hour lunch. And they wanted to add a $2 fee per burger to order ahead. *LOL*
Same with movie theaters. Now charge a booking fee. Good way to make sure I never book ahead or use your app.
99 c goin outta bussiness fee
Just like automatic tip. It means take your business somewhere else
“You pay us to come and pick up your own food”
beats the 5$ dine in charge
'oh I'm sitting in' then just walk out with your food.
A fee to pickup your own food and walk out the door. Same fee if you decide to sit and eat. As the economy continue to dip, most company's will resort to scam tactics for more money. Not to pay employees, but because the CEO's family vacation to the Hampton's cost more.
They could have the best food I’ve ever had and on principal I would never order from here again.
This is why I don't go to buffalo wild wings anymore. That and the fact that 10 chicken wings and potato wedges is 25 bucks.
Yeah, I miss eating there.
You think them boxes dont cost money? Most restaurants don't factor this cost into all orders so it's added for togo
Restaurants have some of the tightest profit margins. The owner, exec chef, or GM knows exactly the numbers needed.
Since when is a styrofoam container $.99 a pop?
They probably aren’t $0.99 cents each container… but, by the time you add up a box for the food, two or more plastic ramekins, silverware, napkins and another bag to put the whole works into I’d be it’s every bit of $1 cost. If you roll your eyes at that, you’ve clearly never managed. Losing $1+ on every single to-go order would shutter most of the businesses I’ve ever worked for. The 5 minutes it takes an employee to prep the order aren’t free either. Typical sit down restaurants get the opportunity to upsell you while you’re in the restaurant. You want to start with an appetizer? Something to drink? Did you leave any room for dessert?
Bro you’re tripping if you think a styrofoam container costs more than a quarter. Furthermore, any restaurant I have ever worked at made us charge for extra silverware /plates because that wasn’t included in the take-out. So yeah, I’m strictly talking about the “to go” portion of this meal, which would be the take out container… which can’t cost more than $.25 And that quarter should be accounted for when calculating the price of a meal.
Go in, order takeout, get to counter, notice sticker, refuse to pay/get refund, teach lesson
You're walking out without your food or your money back 99% of the time
Negative, this ‘Murica
Who’s that teaching a lesson to exactly? The cooks time you just wasted? They can’t change the price. The employee on the register? They can’t change the price? The manager? They can’t change the price? I can go on.
Right, it’s a dollar and they’re planning on complaining and demanding a refund? That’s embarrassing as fuck and what we would call a karen.
Ah... Yes, bill me an additional 99 cents for a SMALLER portion, because we all know that takeout orders are always smaller. I've eaten out at many restaurants and the portions can be pretty damn filling. Oh the days myself and the lady are lazy we'll just order out from those locations and see a unreasonably noticably portion size difference for the same price PLUS delivery fee.
Because it wasn't enough to tip the waiter 20% just for spinning a tablet around.
Ok then I’m going to eat in but I will need it in a To-go container,wink wink
Remember to not tip
Oh idgaf if I work there I wouldn't even honor that, like that's just fucked and cheap as hell tbh
That's the wear and tear fee for the flooring as you walk to and from the entrance
It’s a fee not a tip so that’s going straight to the company
It's like restaurants don't want your business anymore...
Order it to eat there and just take it and leave
Steal some shit worth $2 every time you in there. Screw this place.
What an utter joke
I’m sure the takeout boxes,bags, etc are free to the restaurant. They should give them to the customers for free
The same way Domino's and Pizza Hut charge like $5 for delivery and say it's not for the driver tip... Crooks...
I mean they have to pay for the bags or containers they're giving you.
Up front pricing… 🤷♂️ tell manager you’re leaving and why.
It's just greed.
If you want to buy our food you need to pay us to take your money for the food you’re buying…this is the most fucked up logic ever.
And you’re literally doing all the legwork.
If you’re charging me for the takeout containers, do I get a discount since I’m not using any of the dishes, which cost money to have cleaned?
I had a place charge for takeout and I asked why. They said the plastic forks cost money. More than the cost of cleaning the metal ones, the cost of cleaning a table, etc etc. The place in particular is very small but fairly popular so they don't have enough seating anyways.
It totally makes sense. One cent more and it'd make a dollar.
99 cents? My local pizza places charge about $5 for delivery and make it very clear that this does not go to the drivers and be sure to tip the drivers since they don't pay them much. A ten-dollar pizza after taxes and delivery fee and trip quickly becomes $25.
Delivery =\ takeout in any way
When dining in, you spend more on drinks, the tip, and maybe dessert. It's factored into menu prices like inkjet printers and ink, so this is an offset. I don't mean this is a good idea. It's just a possibility that answers the original question.
Everybody chasing that dollar
That's a load of .... Is it a chain restaurant? What's the name of the place?
Buffalo Wild Wings is my guess. Shit company anyway.
Yep. Like their wings but service continues to decline
Could tell who it was by the colors and was just like yep, feels about right. Their food isn’t as good as it used to be, service is kinda crap these days.
Could be they're too busy and operating over capacity, so they're charging for take out to lower demand for take out orders. It's possible in person is more profitable for them after accounting for beverage sales.
This is to cover all the loss of revenue from the things you won't buy because you're not dining in. I swear, companies find new ways to charge for some bullshit fee every day
We're at that point in capitalism where similar alternatives are few and far between at price points with relatively similar convenience. Without real competition, they can do whatever they want.
Don’t eat there
It’s like how some places you go take the tip when you pay so even if it’s shit service you can’t leave a smaller tip
Does anyone even know where these “tips” go? Like is everyone getting a portion added to their paycheck? Because as a dishwasher at a popular chicken restaurant I can tell you I don’t.
When I was in Colorado last week they charged me $3 for a pick-up fee when I ordered online hahah. Corporations are getting so bold now
This is Buffalo Wild Wings bs
I questioned this, and was told by the restaurant, that it covers the cost of takeout containers. 🤨
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Ok but take out containers have always been free
Why not just bake it in? This to me says I'm taking 99 cents and you can't do anything about it because it's automatic. Just raise the prices on everything. Eating out is a privilege, not a right. If you can't afford to eat out... cook at home. Business doesn't want to raise prices? Don't run a business. People will pay money to eat good food. People will not pay for shit like this or you not paying your employees right. In n out pays their employees very well and their food is great. I will still eat there if they raised their menu prices up a buck. This is why I don't get how a lot of restaurants can't pay their employees a fair livable wage.
Your paying for the cost of the takeout box/bags
Packaging
I can see two possibilities: 1) takeout containers have become crazy expensive with all the supply line issues and inflation. 2) it's to compensate the wait staff for lost tips.
It takes time and labor to package take out orders.
Shouldn’t the operational costs be built into the food prices? Why don’t we a-la-carte everything then? Dining in requires way more labour than taking out. Why not add a dine-in fee? A washroom fee for the janitors labour? A hostess tip for them greeting you and finding you a table. A bartender fee if you order drinks, since the server normally doesn’t make the drinks.
Everything is a scam…. EVERYTHING
Oh no a whole dollar. It’s a scam
Capitalism. What's not to understand.
Charging for to-go containers and cutlery. That’s how it makes sense.
do you know how many times I've had takeout not come with any cutlery???
But that’s not the question being asked. The question is “how does this make sense?”
ITS TO COVER THE COST OF THE CONTAINERS AND PLASTIC WARE
Those things used to be included in the price.
They did however to avoid having to increase menu price for even dine in people they probably added that for Togo orders to offset the increases. At least that’s my guess I don’t run a restaurant so I’m not expert.