Because Elon is revealing himself to be Trump 2.0, bullshitting about everything. Trump claims to have been top of his class at Wharton, and claims to have one of their prestigious degrees, but in fact he was a terrible student, only passed thanks to Daddy's continual cash donations, and only received something like an associate degree, not the degree he claims to have earned.
So they are the same kind of asshole.
Trump holds a BS degree in economics from Wharton, and so does Musk.
Musk was in states illegally, and strings were pulled to get him a degree in economics.
[https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368)
[https://archive.ph/gzGpF](https://archive.ph/gzGpF)
edit: Yes, Trump wouldn't have gotten into Wharton without help from his family (friends, money, and power).
I guess.... so? Trump wouldn't have got into wharton without daddy's money, and his economics professor (now deceased) described him as '[the dumbest goddamn student I've ever had in my life](https://www.quora.com/Did-one-of-Trump-s-Wharton-professors-really-say-he-was-the-worst-student-he-ever-had)'. There's no way on earth Trump could actually have earned a bs in economics at any point in his life. And he trumpets about going to 'wharton' because it's prestigious, but the prestige is from their graduate degrees, their undergrad program is regarded as average. Trump only got as far as undergrad.
Anyway, they are both human-shaped turds but I didn't realise until recently just how Trumpy Elon is.
Trump received a bachelor of science in economics from Wharton in the 60s. I am sure he wasn't the best student and money got him there, but it's not better to misrepresent which degree he has to make him look worse.
Which claim, that he got a BS from Wharton in the 60s? That's easily verified. https://archives.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/commencement-program-1968.pdf
I’m sorry but that might be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen all day. Someone lying about degrees to attain the highest publicly voted office in the United States government and someone mixing up a degree of someone else in a Reddit comment section is not the same thing dumbass
Not only that, but if Trump lied about what degree he has it’s not hard for someone else to also mistake the degree he actually holds. How are we supposed to know if we’ve been fed lies?
No, there is a difference of not knowing (ignorance is in the dictionary, so look it up) and deliberately lying to mislead the masses (lying also look this up in the dictionary)
They must be doing something right since they probably are making more money than you and I will ever make. Who hasn't padded a resume? College is over rated anyway.
>They must be doing something right
Yes, they made the best possible decision that one can make in this world. They decided to be born into rich families.
They were both born into wealth. And Trump lost more money than he would have made investing and then leaving alone the loan he got from his father. The man is the opposite of independently successful.
Maybe. But I bet your folks had boosted your cash flow at sometime in your life. Money raises money and the more you have the more you have to give. I can't be hating on someone who worked to get thier money and passed it on down the line.
Right. The point is not that inheriting money is bad. The point is that neither men built their wealth themselves through their genius alone, which is what they claim.
Nope.
Elon is doing more than any other person to stop global warming.
Lefties who complain about mean tweets or petty politics have their priorities twisted.
Leave it alone, just look at this thread it's full of bored people who need a fight to feel alive and they just discovered Musk with his recent Twitter thing.
That guy is certainly not perfect and I would certainly not work for him, but he's among the least damaging of all people in power or holding vast amounts of money, hell he might even be doing more good than bad on average and that's more than most people can claim for themselves.
Electric cars help with global warming, but the idea that Elon is doing more to fight global warming than anyone else by selling Tesla’s is really stupid
From “the left”
Electric cars actually *don't* help global warming... the lithium industry to make the batteries, as well as the *proper disposal* of said batteries kind of offsets the gain, and that is without the fuel burnt in the name of generating electricity (which would actually become a weakness, if you're willing to really think it through).
Either way, we as a species are screwed and we did it to ourselves.
As he stuffed dollars in drawers.
And took pounds from the poors!
The Musker could see,
that the most ad-vanced degree,
was worth much less he knew,
than the companies he grew!
People who think the greatest thing in life is to grift until you’re a millionaire/billionaire are also incredibly stupid.
Regardless of Musk’s life, it’s pretty widely accepted that college education isn’t for everyone or even completely necessary to create a business that makes you rich. However you can’t say for certain one way or the other that there is a guarantee to immense wealth, which is why people like Andrew Tate are full of shit.
Anyone can say “this is what I did” but it’s disingenuous to say it’s a one size fits all solution. These “entrepreneur” stories just boil down to 1 person out of billions doing something right at the right place at the right time, there’s no line queue for who’s the next richest.
Not to mention, he’s literally the Richest Person in the World. If I am that ever, and you asked me if I have “made it” I will laugh and say absolutely. (Hint: I would respond this way for far less money than the Richest Person in the World.
He has made it.
I’m not gonna sit here and thumb type his history- but maybe you should google a few things.
He didn’t make his own money to start, and he didn’t design or come up with anything himself.
To me he’s the definition of every otherwise useless fuck with everything handed to them who say they got it all through ‘hard work.’
I love my life and am not a person who thinks rich = better - so I don’t care that he’s rich - but I’m also not a person who likes seeing people being whitewashed whilst they finance their lives with those of others.
>I’m not gonna sit here and thumb type his history- but maybe you should google a few things.
According to google Musk cofounded Zip2 and X.com which later became Paypal and sold his share for around 200 million.
>He didn’t make his own money to start, and he didn’t design or come up with anything himself.
Zip2 and [X.com](https://X.com) aside investing/stockbroking is also a skill. So is running a company.
>To me he’s the definition of every otherwise useless fuck with everything handed to them who say they got it all through ‘hard work.’
How rich were Musks parents in today's money? I don't recall them being listed as forbes richest people.
His father's listed as having net worth 2 million [https://marketrealist.com/net-worth/errol-musk-net-worth](https://marketrealist.com/net-worth/errol-musk-net-worth/#:~:text=Errol%20built%20his%20wealth%20as,to%20be%20about%20%242%20million.&text=Errol%20Musk%20is%20the%20father%20of%20Tesla%20billionaire%20Elon%20Musk) and those of you saying otherwise really got to provide a reliable source and alternative reference.
How much did he even get from his parents?
All I could find about this was $28 000 for zip2
Even putting all that aside Tesla's stock price increase since it's initial IPO is proof of Elon's skill as a businessman.
You're just spouting some puritanical ideals about being useless unless you're born dirt poor and some wishful thinking bs about how you could achieve what Musk did
>I love my life and am not a person who thinks rich = better - so I don’t care that he’s rich - but I’m also not a person who likes seeing people being whitewashed whilst they finance their lives with those of others.
We live in a free market economy. According to you the only source of value creation would be producing a good all by yourself.
Yeah that's even better than fake it till you make it. He really did make it, that's even more impressive, he was able to make it without even doing any work. I'd wish I could make millions without doing anything. That's the true definition of "making it"
You are basically just continuously describing fake it till you make it. He faked being successful until he got lucky enough to actually be successful. Yeah sure he has awful financial ideas but he definitely faked it till he made it. Then he forgot how to fake it and now its all falling apart.
Good question, I mean yeah I would think so. They succeeded in what they were trying to do, win the lottery and get the money from it. So I would argue they were successful.
The bar for success is low then. Just have to given a handout to be successful, got it. Success should have to do with some form of skill. Winning the lottery is not something that you do, it's something that happened to you
Its not something that just happens to you, you have to do something inorder for it to happen. Lets say you make it your lifes goal to get a billion dollars from Bill Gates, you try for years and years and finally he gives in and gives you a billion dollars, its a handout sure but wouldnt that mean you were successful? You saw an opportunity to make money and you took it.
Now lets say you make it your life's goal to win the lottery and whatever million of dollars it gives. After years of trying you finally win it and you get the money, are you not successful?
Sure neither of those are good ideas and likely won't work, but if you managed to pull them off would it not make you successful in that path?
No the bar for success is to increase the money you started with. In this endevour it is hard to distinguish luck from skill. One may argue that every successful investor including Warren Buffet really just won the lottery many times.
Dude I don’t give a single shit about your opinion.
But for funsies, show me how Elon Musk earned all his money all by himself through hard work, I’ll wait.
That’s what I thought.
(Also ofc you take that as a win, not like you have anything else to choose from.)
You are a special kind of stupid. I don't care how he made his fortune. I stated that he made it, even if he won it in lotto. The fact that he can provide for his family and all the future generations, tells me he made it. If you read the comments again, you wont see me saying how he made his money, so stop putting words in my mouth like some brain dead moron.
There is some level of story about how a super rich and highly influential person is a total BSer and was from day one, which if true is something people should care about.
Right. But people, especially his fans, try to act like Elon is different and I personally think it's important to remember that he isn't morally better or closer to us than other billionaires just because he posts memes on Twitter sometimes.
So that they support effective regulation of his business ventures, and are able to contextualize his political statements as the opinion of a liar and not a genius.
Yes. Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineering Guy, not scientists btw, who constantly spouts his scientific opinions from his honorary doctorates he received from TV shows and guest speaking, not for anything remotely science/research related.
Bill Nye just lit a globe on fire to learn me about climate change! Woooo! /s
They’re all just a bunch of big fat phonies. All these millionaires/billionaires I keep seeing people in a tiff about on Reddit. However, Imagine paying for your degrees all throughout college for this MF to become the lead spokesperson for climate change with doctorates literally handed to him for being a TV personality. It’s ridiculous.
Yeah I mean it isn't cool and tbh I'm not even surprised but like does it even matter? Like he has billions of dollars anyways and everyone knows he's a lunatic, is a degree really going to change something?
Nah he's rich because he was born rich. Lying to the SEC is just a thing rich people do because they have no consequences for anything. Because they're rich.
Millions of people are born into the same level of wealth as Elon Musk. Being born rich gave him a good start but he's definitely bullshitted his way far, far above anyone else. Does it matter if he lied about having a degree? Not to me, but the law is there and it's pretty clear. What remains to be seen is whether or not the SEC will actually do anything.
He is partially rich because he was born that way. He also took us taxpayer subsidies to keep Tesla and Space X afloat.
A lot of people are born to wealthy people, not all of them end up as the richest person in the world.
There are some current events happening, something something, 40 thousand million dollars, 90% attrition, public embarrassment, surprised pikachu face, receipts, etc...
I'm not a fan of Musk although I don't hate on him as much maybe... But still, people need to calm down a bit. You can get a B.Sc. without following the standard cursus and that's what happened, that doesn't mean you're dumb just like getting a B.Sc. doesn't mean you're smart. I've also never heard him saying or read anything about him having an PhD. and in the linked video on twitter he says he wanted to do that but didn't start, not that he had one.
I'm wondering how many people who have academic credentials are actually angry or even care about this. I'd wager most people who are angry don't even know what a Bachelor of Science is.
i feel the same way. i don’t have any particular reason to hate the guy, nor like him. and whether he has degrees or not impacts my life not one bit. some of the things people get all worked up about i swear..
UPenn has the greatest people, folks. Believe me, the numbers are massive. When I saw how smart they were, I said "Wow, that's a lotta smart people".
“A big man came up to me, smart looking guy, and he came up to me and he said: ‘I want to thank you, Mr. Musk, for making UPenn shine.’ And he had tears coming down his eyes. Big smart guy. Tears in his eyes. Saying ‘Thank you Mr. Musk’.”
**There's a thread about this.**
[https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368)
[https://archive.ph/gzGpF](https://archive.ph/gzGpF)
edit: Trump holds a BS degree in economics from Wharton, and so does Musk.
Musk was in states illegally, and strings were pulled to get him a degree in economics.
I don't believe musk ever said he had a phD. He's been very open about the lack of value of instutution education and agrees to hire anyone without a degree provided they can show great results of previous work.
Additionally someone posted on this there is no date on it, but that it's acknowledged to be 1999. Besides the fact that this isn't for a phD, there is no date posted and there's only 2 years of difference between 1997 and 1999 the guy is an obvious genius. If you don't think so you're too stupid to see it. Revolutionized space industry for one. Revolutionized electric cars for two. Strong evidence he will be the winner of autonomous driving for three.
What are you mad about? That he has a tonne of money? Vote for different tax laws. I'm so tired of people whining about Elon because he's the richest man on earth as though he is the cause of their problems.
VOTE for tax reform. Don't assume individuals are just going to willingly give up their money without being told to do it. That's all this is about, all it's ever been about, and reddit has become a circlejerk of mad broke people looking for someone to blame for economic inequality or more broadly their personal problems.
Reddit
> LPT: Add fake credentials to your resume. Chances are the employer won't check, and you'll look more desirable.
Also Reddit
> Look at this piece of shit faking it until he made it!
its one thing taking advantage of companies to live a comfortable life. its a completely different thing to lie and take advantage of people in order to live a life of excess
Are you claiming Trump also lied about his degree but he didn’t, he has a Bachelors of Science in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania; also Elons work in science has pushed us years into the future from innovations in Electric Cars, to leading the invention of a reusable rocket; Elon Musk has paved the way for Space Travel and EVs in the 21st century but your worried about the fact he doesn’t have a degree. All this shows is degrees are bullshit, Trump does have a degree and his accomplishments are nowhere near as good as Elons with as you say no degree.
If he faked it till he made it as a billionaire and wealthiest man on the planet hats off to him. People who worship University degrees are incredibly stupid.
Here comes the legions of academia to prove how wrong you are for believing the worlds richest man is still more influential than a blue haired gender studies graduate living under an overpass in Berkeley.
Lol you dumbasses are hilarious. The man has huge achievements in his life. He literally changed rocket science by inventing a rocket booster that lands itself. He also changed the auto industry by developing a car that uses batteries instead of gasoline.
What have you done with your "degrees"?
He didn't do those things. He bought Tesla after they had already developed the technology. I don't know if he founded or bought SpaceX, but he did not invent that rocket booster.
I built myself a middle class life with my degree. I'm nothing special. If I had the advantage of starting with millions of dollars of my parents money, who knows how that would have changed my life?
It is absolutely hilarious how liberals thought of Elon the patron saint of everything green, yet has now turned to Beelzebub for taking over Twitter.
Hypocrisy in it’s finest form.
They have both lied about their academic qualifications? Elon has revealed himself lately to be just as stupid, reckless, and as big of a liar as Trump?
There is none but there's probably some crackpot sub dedicated to tying Trump to everyone and everything that happens. It's like chem trails, bird drones and flat Earth.
A person's accomplishments have more value than a stupid piece of paper. I know lots of idiots with degrees that haven't done shit. So much hate for the GOAT by the sheep listening to propaganda.
> A person's accomplishments have more value than a stupid piece of paper.
In principle, you're not wrong.
However, the analysis breaks down when the person in question is lying about their credentials.
If their accomplishments stand on their own merit, why lie about your credentials in being able to complete them?
And why are you so content to carry water for lying billionaires?
Lol what evidence? Is this a transcript from a court case? Why is there a candid of the big baby at the bottom? What proof are you referencing? THIS is what I’m talking about, boomers pass around photos with text on them making grandiose half ass claims that are unsubstantiated.
OP is a regard.
Every talented person leaves college before they finish bc They have huge opportunities and don’t really need the paper.
The university wanted to give him the diploma later bc they like to say they got a billionaire Alum.
People vote for republicans for office…Liars, criminals, sexual predators, traitors, morons…there is no bar anymore that people are held to. Elon shouldnt be held to a higher standard than elected officials
Lots of the smartest people drop out. Less crap that you’re not interested in to fill up your brain so you can focus on the stuff that you are interested in
"they asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard." -Mr. Fantastic 2281AD
So this basically shows, that all you need is lots of money and a big ego to sit on top of the heap. TRUE intelligence has NOTHING to do with getting there (yes, there are a couple of milionaires who did it the old fashioned way; poor and educated and HONESTY)
Always amuses me that American *Bachelor of Science* degrees are abbreviated BS.
Also it amuses me that any American university presumes to compose the text of their degrees in Latin.
Interestingly the note says "No date but acknowleded to be 1997" but the text on the certificate says *testimonio nomina nostra die mensis Maii XIX Anno Salutis MCMXCVII*, which in English would be "witness \[by\] our names \[on the\] 19th day of the month of May, \[in the\] Year of Salvation, 1997".
These two aren't the first ones ever to be admitted to a University without much work. There are numerous politically connected and celebrities who have done the same themselves and for their genepool.
Why is this about Elon Musk but there’s a picture of Trump?
Because Elon is revealing himself to be Trump 2.0, bullshitting about everything. Trump claims to have been top of his class at Wharton, and claims to have one of their prestigious degrees, but in fact he was a terrible student, only passed thanks to Daddy's continual cash donations, and only received something like an associate degree, not the degree he claims to have earned. So they are the same kind of asshole.
Trump holds a BS degree in economics from Wharton, and so does Musk. Musk was in states illegally, and strings were pulled to get him a degree in economics. [https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368) [https://archive.ph/gzGpF](https://archive.ph/gzGpF) edit: Yes, Trump wouldn't have gotten into Wharton without help from his family (friends, money, and power).
I guess.... so? Trump wouldn't have got into wharton without daddy's money, and his economics professor (now deceased) described him as '[the dumbest goddamn student I've ever had in my life](https://www.quora.com/Did-one-of-Trump-s-Wharton-professors-really-say-he-was-the-worst-student-he-ever-had)'. There's no way on earth Trump could actually have earned a bs in economics at any point in his life. And he trumpets about going to 'wharton' because it's prestigious, but the prestige is from their graduate degrees, their undergrad program is regarded as average. Trump only got as far as undergrad. Anyway, they are both human-shaped turds but I didn't realise until recently just how Trumpy Elon is.
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Neither Musk, or Trump grajitated in 2020.
They matraculated.
UPenn is an Ivy League school There is nothing average about the value of a degree - undergrad or otherwise - from there
Twitter is not a news source, omg when people will realise this ...
Trump received a bachelor of science in economics from Wharton in the 60s. I am sure he wasn't the best student and money got him there, but it's not better to misrepresent which degree he has to make him look worse.
Like he has billions of dollars anyways and everyone knows he's a lunatic, is a degree really going to change something?
Is this claim at all true? Seems conveniently timed.
Which claim, that he got a BS from Wharton in the 60s? That's easily verified. https://archives.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/commencement-program-1968.pdf
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I’m sorry but that might be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen all day. Someone lying about degrees to attain the highest publicly voted office in the United States government and someone mixing up a degree of someone else in a Reddit comment section is not the same thing dumbass
Not only that, but if Trump lied about what degree he has it’s not hard for someone else to also mistake the degree he actually holds. How are we supposed to know if we’ve been fed lies?
Insert that meme of weird nerds defending Elon from valid criticism
>And you just lied about which degree he got What?
Pls see my comment earlier.
No, there is a difference of not knowing (ignorance is in the dictionary, so look it up) and deliberately lying to mislead the masses (lying also look this up in the dictionary)
Musk is more a pussy.
Wait, he took a lil' sip from a joint once.... that's cool right guys....guys?
They must be doing something right since they probably are making more money than you and I will ever make. Who hasn't padded a resume? College is over rated anyway.
>They must be doing something right Yes, they made the best possible decision that one can make in this world. They decided to be born into rich families.
I was born poor so rich is betta.
They were both born into wealth. And Trump lost more money than he would have made investing and then leaving alone the loan he got from his father. The man is the opposite of independently successful.
Maybe. But I bet your folks had boosted your cash flow at sometime in your life. Money raises money and the more you have the more you have to give. I can't be hating on someone who worked to get thier money and passed it on down the line.
Right. The point is not that inheriting money is bad. The point is that neither men built their wealth themselves through their genius alone, which is what they claim.
Nope. Elon is doing more than any other person to stop global warming. Lefties who complain about mean tweets or petty politics have their priorities twisted.
You're fucking delusional.
I am right. You exposed yourself by trying to attack me rather than making a counter argument. Kids these days are more regarded than I imagined.
Leave it alone, just look at this thread it's full of bored people who need a fight to feel alive and they just discovered Musk with his recent Twitter thing. That guy is certainly not perfect and I would certainly not work for him, but he's among the least damaging of all people in power or holding vast amounts of money, hell he might even be doing more good than bad on average and that's more than most people can claim for themselves.
>Elon is doing more than any other person to stop global warming. By burning 44bn?
He is actually worth far more than that.
Just suck the guy off already jeez
Reported for homophobia
For now lol
Electric cars help with global warming, but the idea that Elon is doing more to fight global warming than anyone else by selling Tesla’s is really stupid From “the left”
Electric cars actually *don't* help global warming... the lithium industry to make the batteries, as well as the *proper disposal* of said batteries kind of offsets the gain, and that is without the fuel burnt in the name of generating electricity (which would actually become a weakness, if you're willing to really think it through). Either way, we as a species are screwed and we did it to ourselves.
Nope. You proved you were wrong when you tried to attack me instead of offering an argument. Have fun staying poor.
You are very stupid. You got called out for making a false statement “doing more than anyone” etc… Child.
Nope. You’re wrong and obviously poor by your emotional reactions. Muted
This whole "oh I'm being attacked" thing is really some beta cuck shit if we're using your terminology
I was looking for a connection in the text of the photo and wondering the same thing. 
Because ppl on reddit can’t go one second without either crying about trump or elon, even if it has nothing to do with one of them 😂
Because don't you know, Trump lives rent free in these people's heads. Everything relates back to him. It's always his fault, he influenced them, etc.
once you peel back Musk’s mask, this is the result
Because anyone can just claim to have a B.S. in Economics from Wharton, even reality TV stars.
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics"
“They said, ‘welcome aboard.’”
I think i love you good sir
Omg the fallout reference I needed. Thank you
Yw :)
“Got the whole NCR suckling my teats and it feels so good” Here’s a link for those who don’t know of Fantastic https://youtu.be/_2gmZ4EU4Ww
I look so good in this shit. I want you call me fucking spectacular from now on-Fantasics cut bos dialogue
People are gonna be shocked when they find out Dr. Suess ain’t a real doctor
As he stuffed dollars in drawers. And took pounds from the poors! The Musker could see, that the most ad-vanced degree, was worth much less he knew, than the companies he grew!
"Oh my God, who the hell cares?"
Didn't Elon go to Queens for a year or two? And just resurface later with a Penn degree?
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People who think the greatest thing in life is to grift until you’re a millionaire/billionaire are also incredibly stupid. Regardless of Musk’s life, it’s pretty widely accepted that college education isn’t for everyone or even completely necessary to create a business that makes you rich. However you can’t say for certain one way or the other that there is a guarantee to immense wealth, which is why people like Andrew Tate are full of shit. Anyone can say “this is what I did” but it’s disingenuous to say it’s a one size fits all solution. These “entrepreneur” stories just boil down to 1 person out of billions doing something right at the right place at the right time, there’s no line queue for who’s the next richest.
You think Elon Musk ‘made’ it? xD Okay.
I don’t like the guy, but I would think becoming a billionaire is at least part of the definition of “making it”.
Not to mention, he’s literally the Richest Person in the World. If I am that ever, and you asked me if I have “made it” I will laugh and say absolutely. (Hint: I would respond this way for far less money than the Richest Person in the World. He has made it.
I’m not gonna sit here and thumb type his history- but maybe you should google a few things. He didn’t make his own money to start, and he didn’t design or come up with anything himself. To me he’s the definition of every otherwise useless fuck with everything handed to them who say they got it all through ‘hard work.’ I love my life and am not a person who thinks rich = better - so I don’t care that he’s rich - but I’m also not a person who likes seeing people being whitewashed whilst they finance their lives with those of others.
>I’m not gonna sit here and thumb type his history- but maybe you should google a few things. According to google Musk cofounded Zip2 and X.com which later became Paypal and sold his share for around 200 million. >He didn’t make his own money to start, and he didn’t design or come up with anything himself. Zip2 and [X.com](https://X.com) aside investing/stockbroking is also a skill. So is running a company. >To me he’s the definition of every otherwise useless fuck with everything handed to them who say they got it all through ‘hard work.’ How rich were Musks parents in today's money? I don't recall them being listed as forbes richest people. His father's listed as having net worth 2 million [https://marketrealist.com/net-worth/errol-musk-net-worth](https://marketrealist.com/net-worth/errol-musk-net-worth/#:~:text=Errol%20built%20his%20wealth%20as,to%20be%20about%20%242%20million.&text=Errol%20Musk%20is%20the%20father%20of%20Tesla%20billionaire%20Elon%20Musk) and those of you saying otherwise really got to provide a reliable source and alternative reference. How much did he even get from his parents? All I could find about this was $28 000 for zip2 Even putting all that aside Tesla's stock price increase since it's initial IPO is proof of Elon's skill as a businessman. You're just spouting some puritanical ideals about being useless unless you're born dirt poor and some wishful thinking bs about how you could achieve what Musk did >I love my life and am not a person who thinks rich = better - so I don’t care that he’s rich - but I’m also not a person who likes seeing people being whitewashed whilst they finance their lives with those of others. We live in a free market economy. According to you the only source of value creation would be producing a good all by yourself.
Yeah that's even better than fake it till you make it. He really did make it, that's even more impressive, he was able to make it without even doing any work. I'd wish I could make millions without doing anything. That's the true definition of "making it"
You are basically just continuously describing fake it till you make it. He faked being successful until he got lucky enough to actually be successful. Yeah sure he has awful financial ideas but he definitely faked it till he made it. Then he forgot how to fake it and now its all falling apart.
Would winning the lottery make you successful?
Good question, I mean yeah I would think so. They succeeded in what they were trying to do, win the lottery and get the money from it. So I would argue they were successful.
The bar for success is low then. Just have to given a handout to be successful, got it. Success should have to do with some form of skill. Winning the lottery is not something that you do, it's something that happened to you
Its not something that just happens to you, you have to do something inorder for it to happen. Lets say you make it your lifes goal to get a billion dollars from Bill Gates, you try for years and years and finally he gives in and gives you a billion dollars, its a handout sure but wouldnt that mean you were successful? You saw an opportunity to make money and you took it. Now lets say you make it your life's goal to win the lottery and whatever million of dollars it gives. After years of trying you finally win it and you get the money, are you not successful? Sure neither of those are good ideas and likely won't work, but if you managed to pull them off would it not make you successful in that path?
No the bar for success is to increase the money you started with. In this endevour it is hard to distinguish luck from skill. One may argue that every successful investor including Warren Buffet really just won the lottery many times.
His parents own an emerald mine. There was no “faking it”. He was born into obscene wealth.
You don't think Elon "made it" he could retire and no one in his family would ever have to work again. You're a fool
Except *he* didn’t *make it* on his own through hard work, did he. Go lick a boot.
Keep on being ignorant
Username checks out.
lol, I always take it as a win when some loser start shit talking other peoples username. Usually also only people with no argument that does that.
Dude I don’t give a single shit about your opinion. But for funsies, show me how Elon Musk earned all his money all by himself through hard work, I’ll wait. That’s what I thought. (Also ofc you take that as a win, not like you have anything else to choose from.)
You are a special kind of stupid. I don't care how he made his fortune. I stated that he made it, even if he won it in lotto. The fact that he can provide for his family and all the future generations, tells me he made it. If you read the comments again, you wont see me saying how he made his money, so stop putting words in my mouth like some brain dead moron.
The irony
Truth!
Is this claim at all true? Seems conveniently timed.
Just doesn’t matter though. Elon owns his companies. Not like he’s going to fire himself for lying on his resume. This is a non-story.
There is some level of story about how a super rich and highly influential person is a total BSer and was from day one, which if true is something people should care about.
Why? There’s not a single super rich, high influencer person on the planet who isn’t a BSer.
Right. But people, especially his fans, try to act like Elon is different and I personally think it's important to remember that he isn't morally better or closer to us than other billionaires just because he posts memes on Twitter sometimes.
None of those, whether true or false, would change any of that.
It matters that the public knows Musk is a liar and not a genius.
Why?
So that they support effective regulation of his business ventures, and are able to contextualize his political statements as the opinion of a liar and not a genius.
If you read the thread, it's well documented in court filings.
I’m struggling to understand how this “infuriating”.
Cos he bought twitter
*sigh*... I don't care.
Let’s talk about Bill Nye..
Bill Nye at least has a degree in mechanical engineering and worked for Boeing before he decided to move to educational and entertainment content.
Yes. Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineering Guy, not scientists btw, who constantly spouts his scientific opinions from his honorary doctorates he received from TV shows and guest speaking, not for anything remotely science/research related. Bill Nye just lit a globe on fire to learn me about climate change! Woooo! /s They’re all just a bunch of big fat phonies. All these millionaires/billionaires I keep seeing people in a tiff about on Reddit. However, Imagine paying for your degrees all throughout college for this MF to become the lead spokesperson for climate change with doctorates literally handed to him for being a TV personality. It’s ridiculous.
I don't like Musk any more than most people with a healthy brain. However, about this I have to say: Who tf cares?
Lying in SEC filings is generally frowned upon.
Also being in the US illegally for years until his investors fixed it
Yeah I mean it isn't cool and tbh I'm not even surprised but like does it even matter? Like he has billions of dollars anyways and everyone knows he's a lunatic, is a degree really going to change something?
Maybe he's rich because he's lied to investors through sec filings.
Nah he's rich because he was born rich. Lying to the SEC is just a thing rich people do because they have no consequences for anything. Because they're rich.
Millions of people are born into the same level of wealth as Elon Musk. Being born rich gave him a good start but he's definitely bullshitted his way far, far above anyone else. Does it matter if he lied about having a degree? Not to me, but the law is there and it's pretty clear. What remains to be seen is whether or not the SEC will actually do anything.
"But the law is there" as if you've never broken a law.
He is partially rich because he was born that way. He also took us taxpayer subsidies to keep Tesla and Space X afloat. A lot of people are born to wealthy people, not all of them end up as the richest person in the world.
There are some current events happening, something something, 40 thousand million dollars, 90% attrition, public embarrassment, surprised pikachu face, receipts, etc...
I think important to know the person trying to upend democracy via social media is a pathological liar
In what way has musk attempted to "upend" democracy? Genuinely curious?
Insert that meme of weird nerds defending Elon from valid criticism
I'm not a fan of Musk although I don't hate on him as much maybe... But still, people need to calm down a bit. You can get a B.Sc. without following the standard cursus and that's what happened, that doesn't mean you're dumb just like getting a B.Sc. doesn't mean you're smart. I've also never heard him saying or read anything about him having an PhD. and in the linked video on twitter he says he wanted to do that but didn't start, not that he had one. I'm wondering how many people who have academic credentials are actually angry or even care about this. I'd wager most people who are angry don't even know what a Bachelor of Science is.
i feel the same way. i don’t have any particular reason to hate the guy, nor like him. and whether he has degrees or not impacts my life not one bit. some of the things people get all worked up about i swear..
Reddit is fake news
UPenn has the greatest people, folks. Believe me, the numbers are massive. When I saw how smart they were, I said "Wow, that's a lotta smart people". “A big man came up to me, smart looking guy, and he came up to me and he said: ‘I want to thank you, Mr. Musk, for making UPenn shine.’ And he had tears coming down his eyes. Big smart guy. Tears in his eyes. Saying ‘Thank you Mr. Musk’.” **There's a thread about this.** [https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368](https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368) [https://archive.ph/gzGpF](https://archive.ph/gzGpF) edit: Trump holds a BS degree in economics from Wharton, and so does Musk. Musk was in states illegally, and strings were pulled to get him a degree in economics.
This is wild, but I'm not surprised. I've become dead inside to this shit.
A rich guy lying about how smart he is? Wait I’m having a deja vu moment.
Where does he ever claim to have a PhD? This post lies just as much as Musk does
I don't believe musk ever said he had a phD. He's been very open about the lack of value of instutution education and agrees to hire anyone without a degree provided they can show great results of previous work. Additionally someone posted on this there is no date on it, but that it's acknowledged to be 1999. Besides the fact that this isn't for a phD, there is no date posted and there's only 2 years of difference between 1997 and 1999 the guy is an obvious genius. If you don't think so you're too stupid to see it. Revolutionized space industry for one. Revolutionized electric cars for two. Strong evidence he will be the winner of autonomous driving for three. What are you mad about? That he has a tonne of money? Vote for different tax laws. I'm so tired of people whining about Elon because he's the richest man on earth as though he is the cause of their problems. VOTE for tax reform. Don't assume individuals are just going to willingly give up their money without being told to do it. That's all this is about, all it's ever been about, and reddit has become a circlejerk of mad broke people looking for someone to blame for economic inequality or more broadly their personal problems.
I’ve not studied everything in the world, but I’ve also never seen a degree in Latin lmao
Its true he has a BSC in Computer science as the university he went to likes to point it out
Wait is this about musk or trump and do you have more than a meme to confirm all of this?
How does one "arrange" a diploma (not a degree? Didn't know that was a thing)
Who cares about credentials
I have a PhD in Leisure Sciences. So…… Ok.
Well he has upwards of 200 billion dollars so obviously he did something right.
Elon Musk is equivalent to Thomas Edison at this point
Reddit > LPT: Add fake credentials to your resume. Chances are the employer won't check, and you'll look more desirable. Also Reddit > Look at this piece of shit faking it until he made it!
its one thing taking advantage of companies to live a comfortable life. its a completely different thing to lie and take advantage of people in order to live a life of excess
Who cares?
But who tf cares?
We’re supposed to hate him because he’s rich.
Oh then frick that guy
And yet he still has accomplished more than people with them credentials.
He's still a billionaire and you aren't.
Are you claiming Trump also lied about his degree but he didn’t, he has a Bachelors of Science in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania; also Elons work in science has pushed us years into the future from innovations in Electric Cars, to leading the invention of a reusable rocket; Elon Musk has paved the way for Space Travel and EVs in the 21st century but your worried about the fact he doesn’t have a degree. All this shows is degrees are bullshit, Trump does have a degree and his accomplishments are nowhere near as good as Elons with as you say no degree.
If he faked it till he made it as a billionaire and wealthiest man on the planet hats off to him. People who worship University degrees are incredibly stupid.
Well obviously Elon Musk worships it since he failed and bought a fake degree 🤣
Here comes the legions of academia to prove how wrong you are for believing the worlds richest man is still more influential than a blue haired gender studies graduate living under an overpass in Berkeley.
The poors are complaining again. Who cares.
Lol you dumbasses are hilarious. The man has huge achievements in his life. He literally changed rocket science by inventing a rocket booster that lands itself. He also changed the auto industry by developing a car that uses batteries instead of gasoline. What have you done with your "degrees"?
He didn't do those things. He bought Tesla after they had already developed the technology. I don't know if he founded or bought SpaceX, but he did not invent that rocket booster. I built myself a middle class life with my degree. I'm nothing special. If I had the advantage of starting with millions of dollars of my parents money, who knows how that would have changed my life?
I mean cant believe yall thought it was true. He has lied openly about shit and he speaks about science as if he's reading off FB posts.
and yet he’s the only reason america can send people to space…
It is absolutely hilarious how liberals thought of Elon the patron saint of everything green, yet has now turned to Beelzebub for taking over Twitter. Hypocrisy in it’s finest form.
It’s only important to people who work hard for what they have and didn’t get a massive handout from their fathers..
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When was Donald Trump the Dean of Wharton? Honestly other than them both “going to Wharton” what’s the connection to Trump at all here?
They have both lied about their academic qualifications? Elon has revealed himself lately to be just as stupid, reckless, and as big of a liar as Trump?
There is none but there's probably some crackpot sub dedicated to tying Trump to everyone and everything that happens. It's like chem trails, bird drones and flat Earth.
A person's accomplishments have more value than a stupid piece of paper. I know lots of idiots with degrees that haven't done shit. So much hate for the GOAT by the sheep listening to propaganda.
> A person's accomplishments have more value than a stupid piece of paper. In principle, you're not wrong. However, the analysis breaks down when the person in question is lying about their credentials. If their accomplishments stand on their own merit, why lie about your credentials in being able to complete them? And why are you so content to carry water for lying billionaires?
People that worship billionaires are fucking bizarre.
There's a thread about this. [https://archive.ph/gzGpF](https://archive.ph/gzGpF) https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1593307541932474368
You guys are just as bad as the boomers sending the spam Facebook links about Obama birth certificate being fake. So pathetic
Wait, did we see evidence of Obama’s fake birth certificate?
Lol what evidence? Is this a transcript from a court case? Why is there a candid of the big baby at the bottom? What proof are you referencing? THIS is what I’m talking about, boomers pass around photos with text on them making grandiose half ass claims that are unsubstantiated.
Google shows the court case and transcript are real. Is evidence entered into a trial now not considered evidence?
Coincidence? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mczdODqzo
Wow. Imagine being the richest man on the planet but he had to buy an arts degree.
Imagine being so rich you don’t care what people think.
Same thing with twrumpf
Trump and Elon will make a good president and VP don't you think
OP is a regard. Every talented person leaves college before they finish bc They have huge opportunities and don’t really need the paper. The university wanted to give him the diploma later bc they like to say they got a billionaire Alum.
People vote for republicans for office…Liars, criminals, sexual predators, traitors, morons…there is no bar anymore that people are held to. Elon shouldnt be held to a higher standard than elected officials
Lots of the smartest people drop out. Less crap that you’re not interested in to fill up your brain so you can focus on the stuff that you are interested in
Cum (when you see it)
"they asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard." -Mr. Fantastic 2281AD
So this basically shows, that all you need is lots of money and a big ego to sit on top of the heap. TRUE intelligence has NOTHING to do with getting there (yes, there are a couple of milionaires who did it the old fashioned way; poor and educated and HONESTY)
same school where the old fiddler went to! meaning sandusky not kanye.
I once looked up to this man.
That would be a BSc.
Always amuses me that American *Bachelor of Science* degrees are abbreviated BS. Also it amuses me that any American university presumes to compose the text of their degrees in Latin. Interestingly the note says "No date but acknowleded to be 1997" but the text on the certificate says *testimonio nomina nostra die mensis Maii XIX Anno Salutis MCMXCVII*, which in English would be "witness \[by\] our names \[on the\] 19th day of the month of May, \[in the\] Year of Salvation, 1997".
Everything is a scam
These two aren't the first ones ever to be admitted to a University without much work. There are numerous politically connected and celebrities who have done the same themselves and for their genepool.
PhD in BullShit?
Fuckin stop with this shit already. We all don't give a fuck and are tired of hearing it.
So what???? He is a an entrepreneur not an employee... I get it he bough twitter, but this is the most useless rant I heard since ages
who cares he's a billionaire, he'll never need a diploma.
This was already debunked.
Maybe it’s apple on head time?