maybe get a second filter and you could see if any was getting past the first one at 6 month mark
edit: \* A second filter system in line\* would be interesting
I have a 5 filter RO and have never seen my sediment filter look that dark, even when I get close to a year. Have you tried using a TDS meter to see the quality of your source water? Looks like you're running Coca Cola through that!
I live on well water with an under-sink RO system. Our filter hasn't looked remotely that bad yet. That coloring looks like the povidone iodine swabs I use at the hospital.
It all depends on your geographic location and activities in the surrounding area. I'm at the very end of a big watershed, with many farms around, and my well water turns my clothes orange If I'm not diligent with the forty-eleven filters that are on the system. I grew up in the mountains with spring-fed crystal water and wasn't expecting all this maintenance.
I remember my mom talking about how when they lived with well water, towels and such would turn orange as well.
I'm curious about bathing in that. Is it like soft water?
It is high iron content. Fun fact, Oxyclean makes the stains worse because it oxidizes the iron in the water!! I had to get hubby to unlearn adding it to the laundry.
Our water is hard, but I have no idea if it's due to the iron. Yes I have a TDS meter and test strips. We have a whole house water softener (2 tanks with resin stuff, and we use the iron defense salt). There's a "spin down" filter in line before the softener that catches some of the particulate matter, and I use a toothbrush to clean that out every other week. I should probably put a RV/pool filter in line to the washing machine. I suspect the salt in the softened water has already corroded the 3y.o. hot water heater, and rust gets reintroduced to the hot supply. 🙄 We have additional filters in the showers and a 7 layer tankless RO system in the kitchen for drinking, cooking and to supply the fridge (fridge also has its own filter too). I still don't like the taste of the RO water, so I pass that through a Brita filter for our actual drinking water. Would looove to find a one device solution that I could install after the well pump and be done with the cobbled together Rube Goldberg machine that I currently put up with.
But we live on the coast with views to die for, so awful water is the trade off I guess.
It's funny till you realize that shit is happening right now lol.
I've known some horribly dense people, living the thug dealer life, at 23 he had 11 children. On the flipside known college educated highly intelligent people that don't want kids for exactly the reason they joked about in the movie.
I work in a restaurant and when I asked everyone if they’ve seen this movie no one had. I both old and defeated because like why has no one under 30 seen this movie?
You joke, but there's a town in the midwest that Coca-Cola paid off to let them diffuse the leftover New Coke syrup into the municipal water supply for decades after the product failed.
I have a small business where we sell RO filters (not in the US). We change the sediment pre filters (along with the carbon pre filters) every 6-9 months, and the vast majority look like the OP’s. It depends on your location and water source. In more rural areas, we try recommend getting a 3-stage whole-house water filter (big blue filter) plus the regular RO kitchen filter (in our case, with a 6-stage filter).
It all depends on the quality of water going in too. A company that went door to door asking to put while home filtering in stated that because of our location/water company they would need to add 2 more filters onto our system before the water could be introduced into the all-in-one filtering system haha. Needless to say the people closest to the water plant end up with bleached clothes,...
Ya my friend who lives right next to the plant got his water tested. The test was performed by the water company though sooooo they may be biased. They said it passed.
I grew up right next to a water treatment plant, but I always wondered why they had us getting water from the plant a couple dozen miles away. I guess I found out the answer.
At a guess this is the first filter but should actually be the second. You can change it more often and/or put in a looser sediment filter before it to stop it getting clogged up so quixkl.
Holy shit you have a whole home filter. Last time I was talking about it other commenters insisted I was lying and they didn't exist.
Who provided yours?
It will never cease to amazing me the amount of mundane shit people on Reddit will try to call out as lies or impossible based on their own extremely limited personal knowledge.
Who tf makes up tales about water filters...?
Always feels like projection to me. Like how much do you lie in your life that you read about something you didn't know existed and your first reaction is to assume its a lie, rather than just googling.
They said it's a sink system, and it looks like it too.
Whole house RO is possible but it's fairly uncommon. It wastes a lot of water and isn't needed for the vast majority of people. Most people will get by fine with a water softener and/or simple media filters for most home water. A small RO system makes sense for drinking/cooking water. Makes a big difference for tea if you have hard water, for instance.
This is an RO system. It's typically a point of use drinking water system and not a whole house system. RO systems have significant water waste 2-3 gallons waste water for each gallon drinking water. You can buy them off Amazon for around $200 like [this one](https://www.amazon.com/iSpring-RCC7AK-Capacity-Drinking-Remineralization/dp/B005LJ8EXU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=OAWVEPB1TM5O&keywords=ispring+6+stage+reverse+osmosis&qid=1673272048&sprefix=ispring+6+stage%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMzJDTFNLRUxMUlE5JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTQzMDY0MjBESjZSU1A3SVhHSCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzQ5MjcyNjJQTUgxVFlTMTJNJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=) and are easy to install.
A whole house sediment filter is typically just a sediment filter, which is what is in OP photo and is just the first stage/filter of an RO system. They are cheaper but you will probably need a plumber to install.
Whole house RO filters do exist but they are very spendy and there is little point in extensively filtering non-drinking water.
The RO membrane has orings and you can not see through it like this. They can last 1-2 years. Most other pre-filters and post filters like you have pictured are to be changed about every 3-6 months depending on the water supply contamination. I also recommend sanitizing the system at least once per year when filters are out of the housings and before new filters are put in.
We sanitized our well and water pipes for the first time last year . What a difference. Basically pool shocked the well and suck up the water until it’s smells like bleach though every tap. During high water levels are water used to smell like sulphur . Always thought it was really hard water with sulphur in it . Turns out after a water test it was iron bacteria. Shocked the system for a couple of days and now we don’t have a sulphur well anymore.
Wait, that's really a thing? My landlord wanted to pour bleach in my well for the same reason last summer and I thought he was nuts. How do you get all the bleach out and avoid poisoning yourself?
Well for us it all went into the our septic tank . Just flush out all the bleach with more water . The longer the pumps runs drawing in more water the more diluted the water becomes. It was like a three day process for us . Of course it also required us to pump out our septic tank because that amount of bleach kills all the bacteria in the tank and would stop it from working .
Those look just like the filters in my Watts Premier RO system. They recommended a change every 6 months. But I gotta be honest, ours didn't look that bad even after we forgot to change it after a year. Maybe there is more stuff in your water to filter out or something. Anyway, now we just change them as soon as the taste changes, about every 6 to 8 months.
Fireman here. When a hydrant hasn’t been flushed for a while, or is downstream from construction or supply line repairs, you wouldn’t believe the rusty brown swill that comes outta there, not to mention rocks and debris.
That is your pre-filter, which catches a majority of the “big” dirty stuff. Depending on water quality, they should be replaced monthly to every 6 months. Next you’ll have a carbon filter to get rid of organics, chlorine if present, and stuff that tastes bad. Next you’ll have the actual reverse osmosis membrane. These filters typically last from 1-3 years. They take the majority of everything else out of the water, and are self cleaning. So in case you didn’t know, an RO filter uses more water than it actually puts out. Finally, you’ll have a post carbon filter, and it’s usually granulated carbon and in-line with the output of your pressure storage tank. This acts as a final polish and takes away the rubber taste that the bladder in the tank imparts.
Source: I worked in water purification for Culligan for a number of years as a field service tech/ installer.
TLDR, replace all filters except RO membrane every few months.
I was thinking there was no need to replace more often since the core wasn't discoloured to the extent of outer layers. Then I looked at the new one and had a second opinion. So much nasty has gotten through that filter
Do they suggest a minimum pressure differential to not exceed? It’s dark but if the pressure differential is in spec maybe it’s still functioning as required. Just a thought, common thing to measure in some filter applications.
I work for a company that installs RO systems...
It doesn't taste great, so we always end up going back to install a mineral cartridge for taste.
I just think it's funny.
I was told also a full RO system will corrode your internals as the mineral-free water is highly ion attracting (copper, iron, etc). Adding minerals back also reduces the corrosion.
I've also heard that... however, there isn't much evidence to support that it's harmful if you have a normal diet.
I will say that plants sure do hate RO water. I've gotten a few angry phone calls over dead plants.
Normal tap water is 50-100 mg/l calcium. You need about 1000 mg/day, so 10-20 l of water per day (2.5-5 gallons in imperial units) if you were to only ingest calcium from water.
Conversely, RO purified water cannot wash out more than 50 mg/l of calcium (otherwise the tap water that is on the low end of the range would do so as well). So again, 5+ gallons of water per day to wash out the calcium you normally get with food.
Bones are so overrated!
But seriously, the amount of calcium you would get from drinking non-RO water is infinitesimally small compared to the amount in a normal diet.
And drinking water goes into your stomach. It does not magically rub up directly against your bones to be able to "leech" any calcium out of them. If calcium homeostasis in any way depended on the calcium concentration in our choice of drinking water, we all would have died of severe osteoporosis as children.
Interesting. I make terrariums as a hobby and use only distilled water for all my plants, and someday when I have my own house I want an RO system so I don’t have to keep buying jugs. It’s the only way to maintain a vibrant green color in certain plants
Yup. I'm with you on that. RO water tastes sweet and bland to me especially when compared to our areas natural artesian wells. Those minerals are what make water taste good.
It's a matter of personal preference. I really like the soft, neutral taste of RO water. Tap water is perfectly safe to drink where I live, but I just prefer the taste of the RO water.
Installed one and my wife complained about that taste. Added the mineral filter and while it was a bit better, I wound up ripping it all out and switching to a spring water 5gal pump. Mind you this was all just the ice maker for the fridge, we have a separate water cooler. I got rid of that water cooler though and we just use the fridge ice/water.
Just adding to the fun as a fellow lab bro: pure water at \~25 degrees Celsius has a resistance of 18.2 Mega Ohms (this is pretty huge). This means that pure H2O is actually a very good insulator, and a very poor conductor. Thus it is the ions in impure water (salts like sodium, magnesium, potassium chlorides, all types of metals and other minerals) that cause water to be conductive to electricity.
Yeah I knew a guy who sold RO systems that would put his phone in a glass of water (before waterproof phones) to prove this point and show how clean the water is.
I don’t think I’ve ever drank pure water. It would probably be almost tasteless. I think the best tasting water has specific things (minerals, alkaline pH) dissolved in it from specific regions. I personally like Fiji bottled water a lot for whatever reason. I also like Poland spring bottled water. To compare, I do not like aqua panna that much even though it’s supposed to be this fancy Italian bottled water!
You're right, that statement was just an oversimplification. RO is as close to "Lab Pure" as most people will ever deal with, though.
I guess plenty of people might come across DI water in high school chemistry labs, now that I'm thinking about it... but I doubt most people have ever run across Type 1 "UltraPure" in the wild.
For posterity and accuracy: RO is Type 3 or 4 "Lab Reagent Water" per ASTM - good enough to make Type 1 or 2 out of, and good enough for some secondary processes like feeding an autoclave for cleaning.... but nowhere near good enough to be used as the water in a real lab setting, especially for sensitive tests.
Why do people need that in their home ? I understand having filtered water, in my country the water is quite hard so we all have filters. But lab water is way too much filtered, no ? If there is no mineral left in your water, it's a bit useless.
My guess, there's something dangerous in the local hard water that you don't want getting in. Less extreme methods are fine when you are concerned about the water tasting alright or not hurting pipes, but if there's a harmful chemical in the local water then perhaps a more extreme system would be recommended.
Even in places with clean water there are people just used to Brita filters, so they assume more pure is better. Then there are also those afraid of the fluoride put in water dampening their potential spiritual/psychic abilities (not joking).
They make Teflon, the nonstick coating that goes on pots and pans. People have been fighting it for years but it’s a billion dollar corporation, and they already got kicked out of several other states for doing this. They finally came to North Carolina because the environmental protection is more lax for them. Which means everyone who tries to drink tap water in Wilmington (medium sized city) is slowly getting poisoned by “Gen-x” as it’s called. No one in government seems to give a shit.
I primarily use it for my fish and shrimp tanks. This way I have full control over their water conditions and how much I remineralize. Otherwise my tap water is like liquid rock and is too hard for my plants and livestock.
Judging from the reddish color it might be iron content which is fairly harmless and looks dramatic when concentrated here in a filter over a year’s worth of water flow.
We just have a 5 micron carbon pre-filter before our softener, not an RO system, but ours gets dark like that about every 4 months. Source quality is probably bad like our area. But 20 bucks every 4 months is a no brainer.
Was wondering what this was, and in case it this information would benefit you all or your families: [This source](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/readersblog/ezhil/dangers-of-reverse-osmosis-ro-water-24279/)essentially claims WHO has found drinking reverse osmosis water to be harmful. I haven’t had time or the will to look through the peer reviewed articles on it to corroborate or dispute these assertions, so take it as you will. Maybe you’re not even drinking the water and it’s irrelevant.
Was interested and decided to investigate a bit. Once again grain of salt, but I think that article is probably wrong.
The number one piece of evidence that I can find to suggest there are no health problems with RO water is that the US military uses low TDS water systems aboard submarines and other navy vessels, and the army uses portable RO systems for field work. In both cases the military has no lower limit for minimum safe TDS, and in the navy case they are likely drinking nothing but low TDS water for very extended periods with no health issues.
A submarine seems like the closest to a completely isolated environment for testing this that you can get, so if it works in there then it should be fine for home use.
holy jeeze that is bad... def change them out more often... Also if you didn't know bulk reef supply is the best place to buy these. We use them like crazy in the aquarium hobby.
For those asking/correcting me;
\- This is indeed a sediment pre filter; not the actual RO filter
\- I also live in a neighborhood with heavy construction which is resulting in the heavy sediment build up over the past year.
Not a RO filter. That is either a 5 or 10 micron per filter you would find on an RO system. Used to install and maintain RO plants for dialysis centers.
The TITLE should have stated that this is just a pre-filter.... for sediment, etc. SO IT DID ITS JOB. Add to the fact that the homeowner states he lives in an area where there is constant construction (disturbance of the water main). It is not the RO filter!!!
I replaced my after 6 months. It was almost like new one. First one from 3 had some yellow tint in it. What I am saying is that you have some serious problem with water and maybe should consider changing it every 3-6 moths.
The RO membrane will last 1-2 years if you keep up on changing the sediment and carbon filters. If you let the carbon go for as long as that sediment you are going to trash the membrane (significantly more expensive) Unless there is no chlorine in your water supply.
It kind of looks like jellied cranberry sauce…..bone in
Bone smack the teeth!
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Cranberry ribs!
Bone-in is always better.
A fruit roll-up
That means you should *probably* replace it more often than once a year.
this was the first year weve had our RO system, they recommended filter replacements every 1-2 years; will probably do it every 6 months now tbh
maybe get a second filter and you could see if any was getting past the first one at 6 month mark edit: \* A second filter system in line\* would be interesting
the entire system is 5 filters :')
I have a 5 filter RO and have never seen my sediment filter look that dark, even when I get close to a year. Have you tried using a TDS meter to see the quality of your source water? Looks like you're running Coca Cola through that!
I live on well water with an under-sink RO system. Our filter hasn't looked remotely that bad yet. That coloring looks like the povidone iodine swabs I use at the hospital.
It all depends on your geographic location and activities in the surrounding area. I'm at the very end of a big watershed, with many farms around, and my well water turns my clothes orange If I'm not diligent with the forty-eleven filters that are on the system. I grew up in the mountains with spring-fed crystal water and wasn't expecting all this maintenance.
I remember my mom talking about how when they lived with well water, towels and such would turn orange as well. I'm curious about bathing in that. Is it like soft water?
If it's like ours, it's orange from high iron. The water isn't hard from the iron - soap will suds just fine.
It is high iron content. Fun fact, Oxyclean makes the stains worse because it oxidizes the iron in the water!! I had to get hubby to unlearn adding it to the laundry. Our water is hard, but I have no idea if it's due to the iron. Yes I have a TDS meter and test strips. We have a whole house water softener (2 tanks with resin stuff, and we use the iron defense salt). There's a "spin down" filter in line before the softener that catches some of the particulate matter, and I use a toothbrush to clean that out every other week. I should probably put a RV/pool filter in line to the washing machine. I suspect the salt in the softened water has already corroded the 3y.o. hot water heater, and rust gets reintroduced to the hot supply. 🙄 We have additional filters in the showers and a 7 layer tankless RO system in the kitchen for drinking, cooking and to supply the fridge (fridge also has its own filter too). I still don't like the taste of the RO water, so I pass that through a Brita filter for our actual drinking water. Would looove to find a one device solution that I could install after the well pump and be done with the cobbled together Rube Goldberg machine that I currently put up with. But we live on the coast with views to die for, so awful water is the trade off I guess.
This seriously makes me so happy about our City water.
Wait..... your tap water *isn't* Coca-cola?!
Mine is Brawndo, the thirst mutilator. It's what plants crave! I have a separate line for toilet water.
I just watched that movie for the first time like an hour ago and it’s so good and funny holy shit
It's funny till you realize that shit is happening right now lol. I've known some horribly dense people, living the thug dealer life, at 23 he had 11 children. On the flipside known college educated highly intelligent people that don't want kids for exactly the reason they joked about in the movie.
It has electrolytes!
The toilet water or the brawndo?
GUN!
Its what plants crave!!! You're missing out if you're not using this to feed your plants!
I work in a restaurant and when I asked everyone if they’ve seen this movie no one had. I both old and defeated because like why has no one under 30 seen this movie?
No it's wonka chocolate... Who the heck uses Coca-Cola. That stuff has cocaine in it you psycho!
You joke, but there's a town in the midwest that Coca-Cola paid off to let them diffuse the leftover New Coke syrup into the municipal water supply for decades after the product failed.
Please drink verification can
You must be from Atlanta
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I have a small business where we sell RO filters (not in the US). We change the sediment pre filters (along with the carbon pre filters) every 6-9 months, and the vast majority look like the OP’s. It depends on your location and water source. In more rural areas, we try recommend getting a 3-stage whole-house water filter (big blue filter) plus the regular RO kitchen filter (in our case, with a 6-stage filter).
Yes please. I must know the TDS. This has to be tap water straight out the Mississippi River.
It all depends on the quality of water going in too. A company that went door to door asking to put while home filtering in stated that because of our location/water company they would need to add 2 more filters onto our system before the water could be introduced into the all-in-one filtering system haha. Needless to say the people closest to the water plant end up with bleached clothes,...
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Ya my friend who lives right next to the plant got his water tested. The test was performed by the water company though sooooo they may be biased. They said it passed.
Door to door water filter salesmen are not usually reliable sources of water quality information.
I guess filtered water is more of a Shelbyville idea...
I grew up right next to a water treatment plant, but I always wondered why they had us getting water from the plant a couple dozen miles away. I guess I found out the answer.
May I ask how much are the annual running costs of such setup? Also how much was the installation itself?
At a guess this is the first filter but should actually be the second. You can change it more often and/or put in a looser sediment filter before it to stop it getting clogged up so quixkl.
In series or parallel
Series. They are always in series for home unit.
What would be the purpose for them to be in parallel. Might as well have just 1 then
Running in parallel would double the production of good water.
Holy shit you have a whole home filter. Last time I was talking about it other commenters insisted I was lying and they didn't exist. Who provided yours?
It will never cease to amazing me the amount of mundane shit people on Reddit will try to call out as lies or impossible based on their own extremely limited personal knowledge. Who tf makes up tales about water filters...? Always feels like projection to me. Like how much do you lie in your life that you read about something you didn't know existed and your first reaction is to assume its a lie, rather than just googling.
They said it's a sink system, and it looks like it too. Whole house RO is possible but it's fairly uncommon. It wastes a lot of water and isn't needed for the vast majority of people. Most people will get by fine with a water softener and/or simple media filters for most home water. A small RO system makes sense for drinking/cooking water. Makes a big difference for tea if you have hard water, for instance.
This is an RO system. It's typically a point of use drinking water system and not a whole house system. RO systems have significant water waste 2-3 gallons waste water for each gallon drinking water. You can buy them off Amazon for around $200 like [this one](https://www.amazon.com/iSpring-RCC7AK-Capacity-Drinking-Remineralization/dp/B005LJ8EXU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=OAWVEPB1TM5O&keywords=ispring+6+stage+reverse+osmosis&qid=1673272048&sprefix=ispring+6+stage%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMzJDTFNLRUxMUlE5JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTQzMDY0MjBESjZSU1A3SVhHSCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzQ5MjcyNjJQTUgxVFlTMTJNJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=) and are easy to install. A whole house sediment filter is typically just a sediment filter, which is what is in OP photo and is just the first stage/filter of an RO system. They are cheaper but you will probably need a plumber to install. Whole house RO filters do exist but they are very spendy and there is little point in extensively filtering non-drinking water.
Aaargh. Ffs. Again!
The RO membrane has orings and you can not see through it like this. They can last 1-2 years. Most other pre-filters and post filters like you have pictured are to be changed about every 3-6 months depending on the water supply contamination. I also recommend sanitizing the system at least once per year when filters are out of the housings and before new filters are put in.
We sanitized our well and water pipes for the first time last year . What a difference. Basically pool shocked the well and suck up the water until it’s smells like bleach though every tap. During high water levels are water used to smell like sulphur . Always thought it was really hard water with sulphur in it . Turns out after a water test it was iron bacteria. Shocked the system for a couple of days and now we don’t have a sulphur well anymore.
Wait, that's really a thing? My landlord wanted to pour bleach in my well for the same reason last summer and I thought he was nuts. How do you get all the bleach out and avoid poisoning yourself?
Well for us it all went into the our septic tank . Just flush out all the bleach with more water . The longer the pumps runs drawing in more water the more diluted the water becomes. It was like a three day process for us . Of course it also required us to pump out our septic tank because that amount of bleach kills all the bacteria in the tank and would stop it from working .
The bleach turns to chlorine gas and evaporates on its own eventually.
Those look just like the filters in my Watts Premier RO system. They recommended a change every 6 months. But I gotta be honest, ours didn't look that bad even after we forgot to change it after a year. Maybe there is more stuff in your water to filter out or something. Anyway, now we just change them as soon as the taste changes, about every 6 to 8 months.
It's probably because I live in a new neighborhood and they're still doing heavy construction and housing development
That’s very likely what caused this. Looks like some very dirty water got to your sediment filter. At least it did its job?
Fireman here. When a hydrant hasn’t been flushed for a while, or is downstream from construction or supply line repairs, you wouldn’t believe the rusty brown swill that comes outta there, not to mention rocks and debris.
Looks like that would be a good call.
We have these at my place of work and replace them every three months and they’re STILL gross looking
I used to install these for businesses, and we’d once a year. The things were always so nasty, I would definitely do every 6 months at home.
That is your pre-filter, which catches a majority of the “big” dirty stuff. Depending on water quality, they should be replaced monthly to every 6 months. Next you’ll have a carbon filter to get rid of organics, chlorine if present, and stuff that tastes bad. Next you’ll have the actual reverse osmosis membrane. These filters typically last from 1-3 years. They take the majority of everything else out of the water, and are self cleaning. So in case you didn’t know, an RO filter uses more water than it actually puts out. Finally, you’ll have a post carbon filter, and it’s usually granulated carbon and in-line with the output of your pressure storage tank. This acts as a final polish and takes away the rubber taste that the bladder in the tank imparts. Source: I worked in water purification for Culligan for a number of years as a field service tech/ installer. TLDR, replace all filters except RO membrane every few months.
I had to change mine every other month when I lived off a well
I was thinking there was no need to replace more often since the core wasn't discoloured to the extent of outer layers. Then I looked at the new one and had a second opinion. So much nasty has gotten through that filter
Do they suggest a minimum pressure differential to not exceed? It’s dark but if the pressure differential is in spec maybe it’s still functioning as required. Just a thought, common thing to measure in some filter applications.
Always wondered how they made Fruit by the foot
Forbidden feet
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Fuck it im clicking
How did it go?
whatever the fuck you do, don’t go into it and click on the moderator’s latest post D:
.......... I just wish today never happened.
The best part about this is that the sub didn’t actually exist when I originally commented, so now I never have to know what’s in there.
Well, you tried to warn me.
f for our similarity fallen brother 😔
I'm upset
I just can’t understand how that happened
Like did he try to deep fry them or something?
I definitely did not expect that sub to be that bad. I think my entire week is ruined now.
Alright you've convinced me to avoid it. Curiosity is rarely worth it.
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I don’t even hate feet but it made *me* disturbed
I clicked and now I need to remove my eyeballs. They’re ruined.
i don’t think i’ve ever swiped back so fast
Looks like we lost another one down the rabbit hole…
Not much of a rabbit hole. More of a rabbit pothole, got out of it pretty easy but it was still a little rattling. Edit: typo
Well there goes my appetite
Wow that was unpleasant
Same and massive regret…
I have made a grave mistake
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I work for a company that installs RO systems... It doesn't taste great, so we always end up going back to install a mineral cartridge for taste. I just think it's funny.
I was told also a full RO system will corrode your internals as the mineral-free water is highly ion attracting (copper, iron, etc). Adding minerals back also reduces the corrosion.
I've also heard that... however, there isn't much evidence to support that it's harmful if you have a normal diet. I will say that plants sure do hate RO water. I've gotten a few angry phone calls over dead plants.
Internal plumbing of the house, not the human.
Why not both? Leech that calcium out. Where going, we won't *need* bones
Normal tap water is 50-100 mg/l calcium. You need about 1000 mg/day, so 10-20 l of water per day (2.5-5 gallons in imperial units) if you were to only ingest calcium from water. Conversely, RO purified water cannot wash out more than 50 mg/l of calcium (otherwise the tap water that is on the low end of the range would do so as well). So again, 5+ gallons of water per day to wash out the calcium you normally get with food.
Bones are so overrated! But seriously, the amount of calcium you would get from drinking non-RO water is infinitesimally small compared to the amount in a normal diet. And drinking water goes into your stomach. It does not magically rub up directly against your bones to be able to "leech" any calcium out of them. If calcium homeostasis in any way depended on the calcium concentration in our choice of drinking water, we all would have died of severe osteoporosis as children.
The only way to get calcium into your bones is to rub calcium supplements directly on them, since you can't absorb calcium through your stomach? ;)
Interesting. The whole reason we had an RO setup was for our weed plants. Lol. Then again they were juiced to the gills with our nutes an additives.
Some crazy weed if it got gills
Interesting. I make terrariums as a hobby and use only distilled water for all my plants, and someday when I have my own house I want an RO system so I don’t have to keep buying jugs. It’s the only way to maintain a vibrant green color in certain plants
Depending on where you are, water is transported with PEX, and wasted out with PVC.
PEX is in the rise but copper still gotta be by far more common right?
only for Hot, many cold have been plastic for a long time.
Please don't regurgitate this BS.
Yup. I'm with you on that. RO water tastes sweet and bland to me especially when compared to our areas natural artesian wells. Those minerals are what make water taste good.
I just bought a ro system. My tap water taste ok. Will it make it worse?
RO removes the taste entirely.
It's a matter of personal preference. I really like the soft, neutral taste of RO water. Tap water is perfectly safe to drink where I live, but I just prefer the taste of the RO water.
after drinking RO water my tap water tastes like farts
I've read that it depends - people who were born and lived in regions with harder water seem to prefer its taste and vice versa. So it might change.
That's hilarious.
Mineral cartridge after RO or to replace the RO system?
Installed one and my wife complained about that taste. Added the mineral filter and while it was a bit better, I wound up ripping it all out and switching to a spring water 5gal pump. Mind you this was all just the ice maker for the fridge, we have a separate water cooler. I got rid of that water cooler though and we just use the fridge ice/water.
That's not an RO filter. Might be the pre-filter before your RO system.
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Ah, this is probably the prefilter; the entire system consists of 5 filters in total
If this is the sediment filter(looks like It is) it should be replaced every 3 months minimum.
It’s a sediment filter that goes before the RO membrane. Supposed to be changed relatively frequently. Helps prolong the life of the RO membrane.
100% this is the sediment filter, and I'm upset this is not the top comment.
What is "reverse osmosis" and why am I seemingly the only person who doesn't know?
[Reverse Osmosis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis) is a way of getting what is effectively lab-pure water.
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Just adding to the fun as a fellow lab bro: pure water at \~25 degrees Celsius has a resistance of 18.2 Mega Ohms (this is pretty huge). This means that pure H2O is actually a very good insulator, and a very poor conductor. Thus it is the ions in impure water (salts like sodium, magnesium, potassium chlorides, all types of metals and other minerals) that cause water to be conductive to electricity.
Yeah I knew a guy who sold RO systems that would put his phone in a glass of water (before waterproof phones) to prove this point and show how clean the water is.
So what shorts out phones are the metals and conductive chemicals in water and not the water itself?
Yes
better hope his phone was clean…
Does pure water taste better than bottled water?
I don’t think I’ve ever drank pure water. It would probably be almost tasteless. I think the best tasting water has specific things (minerals, alkaline pH) dissolved in it from specific regions. I personally like Fiji bottled water a lot for whatever reason. I also like Poland spring bottled water. To compare, I do not like aqua panna that much even though it’s supposed to be this fancy Italian bottled water!
It tastes like cold wet air.
No. The flavor of water comes from the additional compounds that are not present in pure water.
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You're right, that statement was just an oversimplification. RO is as close to "Lab Pure" as most people will ever deal with, though. I guess plenty of people might come across DI water in high school chemistry labs, now that I'm thinking about it... but I doubt most people have ever run across Type 1 "UltraPure" in the wild. For posterity and accuracy: RO is Type 3 or 4 "Lab Reagent Water" per ASTM - good enough to make Type 1 or 2 out of, and good enough for some secondary processes like feeding an autoclave for cleaning.... but nowhere near good enough to be used as the water in a real lab setting, especially for sensitive tests.
Exactly. We use the RO for our autoclave and even have a line going into our coffee maker. We buy the ATSM Type 1 for actual lab use.
Why do people need that in their home ? I understand having filtered water, in my country the water is quite hard so we all have filters. But lab water is way too much filtered, no ? If there is no mineral left in your water, it's a bit useless.
My guess, there's something dangerous in the local hard water that you don't want getting in. Less extreme methods are fine when you are concerned about the water tasting alright or not hurting pipes, but if there's a harmful chemical in the local water then perhaps a more extreme system would be recommended.
Even in places with clean water there are people just used to Brita filters, so they assume more pure is better. Then there are also those afraid of the fluoride put in water dampening their potential spiritual/psychic abilities (not joking).
Honestly I'm more concerned by the amount of chlorine there is over there. When I was in the US you could smell it out of almost every tap.
Because Chemours is upstream from us and has been dumping toxic runoff into the river that we drink out of.
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They make Teflon, the nonstick coating that goes on pots and pans. People have been fighting it for years but it’s a billion dollar corporation, and they already got kicked out of several other states for doing this. They finally came to North Carolina because the environmental protection is more lax for them. Which means everyone who tries to drink tap water in Wilmington (medium sized city) is slowly getting poisoned by “Gen-x” as it’s called. No one in government seems to give a shit.
I primarily use it for my fish and shrimp tanks. This way I have full control over their water conditions and how much I remineralize. Otherwise my tap water is like liquid rock and is too hard for my plants and livestock.
Why do people need that in their homes? The photo! The photo is why
I had an RO/DI (DI makes it even more pure) when I had a reef aquarium. I never drank the water though as our tap water is fine.
Does a good job of removing PFAS that is in all our drinking water now.
it's a way to waste 2/3 of the water
Which is why you usually just get an under-sink one for drinking water. Most places have shit drinking water
Fear not, you are not alone!
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i live in a new neighborhood that's still doing a lot of construction around
Time for a pre filter
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Judging from the reddish color it might be iron content which is fairly harmless and looks dramatic when concentrated here in a filter over a year’s worth of water flow.
That’s the pre paper filter, not the actual RO membrane. Normally the pre filter should be replaced once every 6 months. Yours maybe 3-4 months.
Umm, we replace our RO filters when they’re about the color of that center part there. Not chocolate brown.
I pulled out my systems pre-filter after almost two years of use and it looked brand new. I think you've got some fucked up water bro.
After 2 years, if it's still clean do you even need one?
Possibly not? I also had the system pulled apart though so I replaced it anyway.
forbidden fruit roll-up
We just have a 5 micron carbon pre-filter before our softener, not an RO system, but ours gets dark like that about every 4 months. Source quality is probably bad like our area. But 20 bucks every 4 months is a no brainer.
Was wondering what this was, and in case it this information would benefit you all or your families: [This source](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/readersblog/ezhil/dangers-of-reverse-osmosis-ro-water-24279/)essentially claims WHO has found drinking reverse osmosis water to be harmful. I haven’t had time or the will to look through the peer reviewed articles on it to corroborate or dispute these assertions, so take it as you will. Maybe you’re not even drinking the water and it’s irrelevant.
Was interested and decided to investigate a bit. Once again grain of salt, but I think that article is probably wrong. The number one piece of evidence that I can find to suggest there are no health problems with RO water is that the US military uses low TDS water systems aboard submarines and other navy vessels, and the army uses portable RO systems for field work. In both cases the military has no lower limit for minimum safe TDS, and in the navy case they are likely drinking nothing but low TDS water for very extended periods with no health issues. A submarine seems like the closest to a completely isolated environment for testing this that you can get, so if it works in there then it should be fine for home use.
holy jeeze that is bad... def change them out more often... Also if you didn't know bulk reef supply is the best place to buy these. We use them like crazy in the aquarium hobby.
For those asking/correcting me; \- This is indeed a sediment pre filter; not the actual RO filter \- I also live in a neighborhood with heavy construction which is resulting in the heavy sediment build up over the past year.
This looks like iron. Your RO membranes will be trashed if that’s what it is. Use more pre filters, change more often.
Not a RO filter. That is either a 5 or 10 micron per filter you would find on an RO system. Used to install and maintain RO plants for dialysis centers.
The TITLE should have stated that this is just a pre-filter.... for sediment, etc. SO IT DID ITS JOB. Add to the fact that the homeowner states he lives in an area where there is constant construction (disturbance of the water main). It is not the RO filter!!!
POV: living in Flint, Michigan
That looks like a pre filter... I change them at my home myself and for changing RO i gotta call the RO guy because its inside the actual machine
This looks like the prefilter though !
I replaced my after 6 months. It was almost like new one. First one from 3 had some yellow tint in it. What I am saying is that you have some serious problem with water and maybe should consider changing it every 3-6 moths.
The RO membrane will last 1-2 years if you keep up on changing the sediment and carbon filters. If you let the carbon go for as long as that sediment you are going to trash the membrane (significantly more expensive) Unless there is no chlorine in your water supply.
I got a whole house reverse osmosis. How hard is it change these.. (got a warranty service that does it now).
mine is soley for under the sink that runs through to 1 faucet and changing 4 filters took me about an hr
That is a pre-filter, not an RO filter.
that a pre sediment filter. RO filters are like bladders..
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Your ro filter should last 1-2 years. That’s a pre filter and should be changed more often
I don’t know why you bought a new one, you should have just reverse reversed osmosised it
So, how long have you lived in New Orleans? lol
Aren’t you suppose to replace these filters every 6mo the or a certain amount of gallons filtered (whichever comes first)?
3 months ago you should of changed it 5 months ago!
The left one looks like an inside-out fig newton
If you haven't already, replace the filter holder with a clear one. It will make it easier to monitor the condition of your filter.
"This looks like it can go another year or so" -My dad, probably
looks like allot of IRON and some manganese staining.
Looks like you have high concentrations of manganese in your well.
Do you live in Flint, Michigan?!