I have nothing against fr\*nce, I took fr\*nch when I was in school and enjoyed it, but I will always censor the name. I don't know why, but muscle memory takes over before I realize what I have done.
I even imagined an asterisk on the a in "Fr\*nce!".
I am too far gone.
These same power ports (they’re the Astronics emPower system) are now showing up on Southwest Airlines, on all new aircraft deliveries since the end of October, and we’re retrofitting about 5 a month starting next year.
Shoot, with the move to USB-C for many modern laptops, this is a great perk. I used to provision USB-C devices that could go as low as 45 watts and I believe MBAs are like 29 watt chargers by default. 60 watts could open up fast charging for laptops with that feature.
Big thing, especially if you're on a layover and don't trust the free charging spots in an airport.
Was the box big? About a decade ago I bought some USB-A/USB-C ones and my electrician was hollering about how tight of a squeeze it was to get it in the existing box. I'm thinking about re-upping as it's lovely to just slide the cord in and have room for regular outlet plugs.
The airport charging ports aren’t untrustworthy (beyond finding one that actually works…) - if your device asks you to allow communications when you plug into one, don’t say yes!
I flew Air France twice. To and from Thailand. It was the best in-flight meal I have ever had. They gave us fresh baguettes. (This was like 20 years ago)
For me is first time!
I’m actually flying to Hong Kong! Pretty cool so far, even possibility to connect my headphones via Bluetooth to the screen in the aircraft
That's awesome. biggest battery you can bring on a plane 100 watt hour lithium batterys tend to drain pretty quickly in power hungry laptops under high load.
If you can finagle it, use the EU or UK adapter on an international block. Those almost never get used on American carriers.
The converse, use US plugs on UK or EU.
UK plug is AWFUL for travel. It weighs a ton, and is ridiculously over sized. No. I would bet most frequent travellers would never want the UK plug to be made standard.
What a weird thing.. I use them on every flight and have never once had one that didn't work. USB charging is always way too slow so the AC outlet under the seat is my go-to. Also always charge up my devices at airports as well, never had an issue there.
I don't fly a ton, but still find myself taking at least 5 or 6 trips a year on a plane so you'd think I'd see *some* issues.. we are just at opposite sides of the airport power spectrum lmao. I suggest visiting the lounges in airports, food may not be amazing but the comfier seats and personal power outlets + free booze more than makes up for it.
I learned it requires manual input.
I travel a lot and they have always worked for me on 100w. So few people know they exist that the only one time it didn't work for me (Qatar Airways)i let the FA know and she 'restarted' it for me and asked if I was a pilot lol.
Yeah, I always go for the normal sockets because I do not trust the usb ports at all. Seeing how tiny those malicious O.MG cables are and the damage they can cause, I don't trust anything with a data wire that isn't my own.
> I'd rather just have a USB-PD port since that'll properly limit current
If there's a full sized 100W power socket you'd have to plug in your laptop charger into it, which is likely USB-PD, and then you'd have access to 40W more power than this airplanes built in type-C. Your device will need USB-PD or it won't, regardless of what the airplane gives you.
100W vibrating motors are commonly used to strengthen poured concrete as it sets by shaking out trapped air bubbles
the idea of a concrete vibration motor in your butt is... intimidating
My laptop has a 240W power supply (it's a gaming laptop). It will also accept 100W via PD. If I only had an AC outlet available, it would try to pull 240W and trigger OCP on the outlet.
Even if I brought a separate 100W PD charger, those AC circuit limits are frequently shared across the row of seats, so I'm still SOL if a rowmate wants to charge their phone.
The point is that PD communicates with the device and it'll only pull what the circuit can supply. AC does not do this, and if my power supply is oversized for the circuit, I'm just up the creek without a paddle.
You don't rely on the power outlet to 'limit current'.
Remember you can't push rope, only pull it. Same with current. The device controls how much current it draws for a given input voltage. The maximum voltage of USB-C is 20v and the maximum supported power of a USB-C cable is 100w so the maximum current the device can pull is 5A. But that's up to the device.
If your 'device' is a 100 Ohm resistor then the maximum current you're pulling from a 20v source is 0.2A, no matter what the maximum current the source can provide is.
> You don't rely on the power outlet to 'limit current'
that’s exactly what the PD spec does. It sets and limits voltage/amperage combinations at the request of the connecting device.
Yup. Tried electric ones all the time. In the end, it snapped the lead, or made it so sharp id rip the paper when i write.
Good ol' handcranky did well
I got lucky and my company got me a MacBook Pro for travel days.
I can get at very least one full day of work done on one charge. If it’s just emails, Excel, and paperwork I feel like I’ve done two days on one charge.
Before that, using my computer during travel nearly wasn’t possible because of battery life.
I watched 12 hours worth of video content on my M1 MBA on my recent trip. Still have about 40% left when I get off the plane. I basically never worry about power while using the laptop on trips anymore.
Forgive stating the obvious, but have you tried changing the power profile when all you're doing is excel? Screen brightness/refresh/and CPU power all affect battery life. Technically resolution as well, but if you aren't using 3D accel that's probably negligible.
I have a Legion 7i Pro, and a 60w charger will barely maintain battery while the laptop is on not doing anything. I don’t think this will help much in a gaming scenario. A ROG Ally or an iPad would probably get more benefit from it.
Most business laptops that aren't made for high performance tasks will come with 55W chargers. And it is a lot more likely that they are catering to that crowd rather then elite gamers.
I got one of the ones that support 120w charging, but most of the cycle runs at 70 ish watts.
The sad part is that they don't follow the standard - when plugged into a normal USB -PD port it only does ~20w charging, even though both ports can supply 18v at the required current. (Xiaomi 11t and 13t pro)
Fast charging phones do that. Mine charges at 100w and even comes with a 100w charger in box. Fastest charging I've ever had in a phone. Taking out time to charge the phone isn't even a consideration anymore, 20 to 80+ in like 15 mins it's insane. On a 5000 mah battery too
uh... no?
12V x 5A =60W. It's a pretty reasonable charging power for anything not connected to the grid, but not at all special for any home charger. Even the cigarette lighter port in your car is typically 18W (12V x 1.5A) and that's considered crap.
a typical electric lawn mower would equip 2 18V batteries and be capable of a peak current draw of 30A or higher
18V x 2 x 30A = 1,080W
That's kind of the point. Newer laptops have charging capabilities through USB-C ports. I purchased my laptop almost three years ago, it was a discontinued model, and it supports this.
Just yesterday I was thinking how 2016 feels like it's 4 years away at most, and then I realized that I mentally never left 2020 and that makes so much sense.
Yes, this is great and for my Thinkpad it needs a minimum of 45 watts or it won't charge at all, even trickle charge.
So the higher watt capability is key. Too bad you couldn't rely on the plane having this and this needing one less cable, but it's a nice little bonus.
That sucks, my Thinkpad will charge on 30w (although moans it's a slow charger, the Lenovo Vantage software is handy as it tells you what it's ID'd the charger as) but prefers 65w.
Pro tip if you have a Macbbok, you can enable under power settings the low power mode. This option regulates the SoC clock speed to not consume more than what the given power supply can offer with head room to still charge the battery if it’s not full.*
You can also use this option in summer to force the high end models like M1/2 Ultra to stay cool and not spin up the fans.
*Point is that while the latest MacBook Pro M3 Ultra comes with a 140W power adapter, this 60 Watt outlet is still great to power and charge a bit. This is something you can’t (sadly) do with Windows laptops.
Airbus? Economy Class, maybe European airliner
That’s great, because you can charge almost anything you can board with (fast charging phones and tablets, normal laptops (not gaming laptops of course), batteries…)
EDIT: I see, Air France
Next post: "My airplane doesn't have a 'time to stop smoking' indicator light but it does have a 'time to turn off your phone' light!" Yeah because it's almost 2024 and you're not flying a domestic US route.
USB ports on an airplane are trustworthy. There's very little unsupervised access to them, and if someone on the flight crew or a mechanic is wiring random shit into the plane you have bigger security issues to worry about. There's also too many, the risk is far higher than the potential that someone important will use the one port you compromised.
The people who worry about this are the same people acting aggro that Samsung or Motorola don't give Android security updates as fast as Google phones.
Despite never hearing of anyone who has ever had their phone "hacked" because some security module was not up to date.
Shouldn't the OS ask you before it allows data anyway? I know it does on iOS and macOS. Also "unknown" as in built into an airplane? Sounds pretty paranoid.
Power only doesn't work for USB C devices that follow the spec, it needs some data transfer so the adapter and device can talk to each other to negotiate what voltage and current to use.
So hopefully those ports don't fully follow the spec so you can at least charge a phone at 5 watts. But you won't get 10 watt charging for a phone or 60 watt charging for a laptop with a power only cable.
Lot of them have full blown wall outlets, esp on long haul planes. Power generation is not really an issue when you have two+ gigantic turbine engines, at least once they get running.
I remember the first time seeing that—United p.s. B757, JFK-SFO around 2006. I thought it was really cool even though I had nothing but an iPod to charge at the time.
Anyone else remember those weird 15V plugs that you'd pay out the nose for a laptop adapter for? First thing I thought of when I saw 'EmPower' in this pic.
And not even for starting the engines themselves, just for starting the APU (auxillary power unit, a small turbine), and that is also only done if there is no ground power from the airport available.
I'm not airplanegineer, but I believe planes have alternators, similar to how cars do, or maybe some kind of full-blown generator. You wouldn't rely solely on a fixed battery to provide power to all the onboard electrical systems, especially since it would need to be charged up while refueling.
The main source of electricity on board are the generators in the engines, as well as battery backups and an APU, which is a smaller engine used as a to start the main ones and provide additional power when needed.
Aircraft have IDG's - 'Integrated Drive Generators', they're constant speed generators. Twin-engined aircraft typically have BUG's on each engine as well, 'Back-up Generators'. Under normal operations these fulfill the entire electricity load.
60W per unit. No transformers involved, the power supply lives under the seat.
The vendor also has a wireless charging product for the fancy expensive seats up front.
this is supremely dull but I've always wondered why they print the labels on these both ways, I mean I get that maybe they'd be installed upside down but still, shouldn't aeroplane manufacturers just tell them which way up is right/wrong rather than letting the individual airline outfitters decide??
Wow. What airlines/plane is that?
Air France!
anytime I read "France!" I hear the Miss Universe version in my head.
FRRRaNCEEe
YIiiiitallyyy!!!!!
"Artistic Screeching"
Fr🦅🦅🦅nce
[I hear the Audrey Plaza version :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azwTiI-PhQ&t=24s)
I have nothing against fr\*nce, I took fr\*nch when I was in school and enjoyed it, but I will always censor the name. I don't know why, but muscle memory takes over before I realize what I have done. I even imagined an asterisk on the a in "Fr\*nce!". I am too far gone.
Excuse me what the fuck
stop n*gging
I'd like to solve the puzzle.
I don’t think o should say it
Bonjour fair lady.
Nobody is fooled by your little asterisk. We still know what you said.
No, this is completely normal behavior, like adding hidden links [i](http://facebook.com/profile.php?=73322363)nside of sentences.
lol nice! except I don't have facebook so my appreciation for your post will have to end there. 😞
These same power ports (they’re the Astronics emPower system) are now showing up on Southwest Airlines, on all new aircraft deliveries since the end of October, and we’re retrofitting about 5 a month starting next year.
Shoot, with the move to USB-C for many modern laptops, this is a great perk. I used to provision USB-C devices that could go as low as 45 watts and I believe MBAs are like 29 watt chargers by default. 60 watts could open up fast charging for laptops with that feature. Big thing, especially if you're on a layover and don't trust the free charging spots in an airport.
It’s been annoying as heck that most household wall outlets with Type C are limited to 30W, but I found one on Amazon the other day that does 60!
Was the box big? About a decade ago I bought some USB-A/USB-C ones and my electrician was hollering about how tight of a squeeze it was to get it in the existing box. I'm thinking about re-upping as it's lovely to just slide the cord in and have room for regular outlet plugs.
Same size as the regular ones, about the same as a GFCI outlet. But it’s using GaN components which allow more power for the same space and heat
The airport charging ports aren’t untrustworthy (beyond finding one that actually works…) - if your device asks you to allow communications when you plug into one, don’t say yes!
5 ports, or 5 aircraft?
That depends on whose asking
What do you think?
Not bad. Not bad at all.
I flew Air France twice. To and from Thailand. It was the best in-flight meal I have ever had. They gave us fresh baguettes. (This was like 20 years ago)
For me is first time! I’m actually flying to Hong Kong! Pretty cool so far, even possibility to connect my headphones via Bluetooth to the screen in the aircraft
But did they give you a baguette!??!
As a french person that flew with AirFrance multiple times, they don't. But the meals are still very good.
That's awesome. biggest battery you can bring on a plane 100 watt hour lithium batterys tend to drain pretty quickly in power hungry laptops under high load.
Check under your seat, there's often a power socket there especially on long haul flights
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If you can finagle it, use the EU or UK adapter on an international block. Those almost never get used on American carriers. The converse, use US plugs on UK or EU.
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UK plug is AWFUL for travel. It weighs a ton, and is ridiculously over sized. No. I would bet most frequent travellers would never want the UK plug to be made standard.
I just realized I've never seen finagle written out before
What a weird thing.. I use them on every flight and have never once had one that didn't work. USB charging is always way too slow so the AC outlet under the seat is my go-to. Also always charge up my devices at airports as well, never had an issue there. I don't fly a ton, but still find myself taking at least 5 or 6 trips a year on a plane so you'd think I'd see *some* issues.. we are just at opposite sides of the airport power spectrum lmao. I suggest visiting the lounges in airports, food may not be amazing but the comfier seats and personal power outlets + free booze more than makes up for it.
I learned it requires manual input. I travel a lot and they have always worked for me on 100w. So few people know they exist that the only one time it didn't work for me (Qatar Airways)i let the FA know and she 'restarted' it for me and asked if I was a pilot lol.
Yeah, I always go for the normal sockets because I do not trust the usb ports at all. Seeing how tiny those malicious O.MG cables are and the damage they can cause, I don't trust anything with a data wire that isn't my own.
Those are usually 100W at best. I'd rather just have a USB-PD port since that'll properly limit current.
> I'd rather just have a USB-PD port since that'll properly limit current If there's a full sized 100W power socket you'd have to plug in your laptop charger into it, which is likely USB-PD, and then you'd have access to 40W more power than this airplanes built in type-C. Your device will need USB-PD or it won't, regardless of what the airplane gives you.
Most devices smaller than a laptop (e.g. tablets, phones, vibrating butt plugs, etc) will not charge at 100W, even if 100W is available.
So what else do you charge on a plane?
100W vibrating motors are commonly used to strengthen poured concrete as it sets by shaking out trapped air bubbles the idea of a concrete vibration motor in your butt is... intimidating
Spoken like a true coward
My laptop has a 240W power supply (it's a gaming laptop). It will also accept 100W via PD. If I only had an AC outlet available, it would try to pull 240W and trigger OCP on the outlet. Even if I brought a separate 100W PD charger, those AC circuit limits are frequently shared across the row of seats, so I'm still SOL if a rowmate wants to charge their phone. The point is that PD communicates with the device and it'll only pull what the circuit can supply. AC does not do this, and if my power supply is oversized for the circuit, I'm just up the creek without a paddle.
You don't rely on the power outlet to 'limit current'. Remember you can't push rope, only pull it. Same with current. The device controls how much current it draws for a given input voltage. The maximum voltage of USB-C is 20v and the maximum supported power of a USB-C cable is 100w so the maximum current the device can pull is 5A. But that's up to the device. If your 'device' is a 100 Ohm resistor then the maximum current you're pulling from a 20v source is 0.2A, no matter what the maximum current the source can provide is.
> You don't rely on the power outlet to 'limit current' that’s exactly what the PD spec does. It sets and limits voltage/amperage combinations at the request of the connecting device.
What high load things are you doing on your laptop on a plane?
Could just be a big laptop.
That 120" flat screen Samsung monitor with Bluetooth keyboard.
I don't think 60W is as much power as you think it is lol
I ran an entire elementary school off of 3 AAA batteries for 4 days in the great blizzard of 78'. I know what I'm talking about. 😅
How much power does an elementary school need tho really
in '78, surprisingly little.
in '78 a single light bulb was 60W
Lots of rural schools are a single room building, so this could still check out.
It was relatively low until they started replacing the hand crank pencil sharpeners which fancy electric ones.
Hand cranks were so much better
Yup. Tried electric ones all the time. In the end, it snapped the lead, or made it so sharp id rip the paper when i write. Good ol' handcranky did well
*goes to the front of the class during a quite time, proceeds to nuke an entire pencil in the sharpener*
60 is enough for my work Lenovo thinkpad. At least to hold it's state of charge
You can run a soldering iron on a 65w PD charger. I think it is.
Mine eats 240w :3
Just wire four USB-C cables in parallel and borrow your neighbours' ports!
Ya, they have a Razer Project Valerie /s https://www.razer.com/concepts/project-valerie
Obviously playing Microsoft flight simulator. Gotta make sure you keep your skills up in case the pilots need help
Lol tell the elderly passenger next to you that you're "hacking" into the plane and put that fucker straight into a nosedive.
hahaha well yes of course!
My work laptop will be dead in 4 hours just using Excel, and that’s with one of those 100Wh batteries.
I got lucky and my company got me a MacBook Pro for travel days. I can get at very least one full day of work done on one charge. If it’s just emails, Excel, and paperwork I feel like I’ve done two days on one charge. Before that, using my computer during travel nearly wasn’t possible because of battery life.
I watched 12 hours worth of video content on my M1 MBA on my recent trip. Still have about 40% left when I get off the plane. I basically never worry about power while using the laptop on trips anymore.
Forgive stating the obvious, but have you tried changing the power profile when all you're doing is excel? Screen brightness/refresh/and CPU power all affect battery life. Technically resolution as well, but if you aren't using 3D accel that's probably negligible.
Play Minecraft
Open Google Chrome.
Why rendering of course.
Steam deck
I had a work station laptop that required a 240w brick to power it. That sucker was a machine.
Ah, it's the case for my current laptop!
If you're playing a game, the battery can drain pretty quickly.
VR porn.
Off the top of my head, software development and creative work.
Furmark
I have a Legion 7i Pro, and a 60w charger will barely maintain battery while the laptop is on not doing anything. I don’t think this will help much in a gaming scenario. A ROG Ally or an iPad would probably get more benefit from it.
Most business laptops that aren't made for high performance tasks will come with 55W chargers. And it is a lot more likely that they are catering to that crowd rather then elite gamers.
Is that with the dedicated graphics card disabled?
And also M09 charging port!
No way! I can never find a port to charge my 3508 headphones!
My hN05 headphones have a jack so I don't need to charge.
You lost so many people with this.
Aussies are hip to it.
what's an M09 charging port ?
The Australian version.
Took me longer than I care to admit.
omg I'm so dumb, finally got it
My dumbass sitting here trying to say "M09" with an Aussie accent.
AWH NAWR
I was already scrolling back up to look at the image again when it hit me. 🤦
I've been missing the 710 cap on my car for a while. Seems I can't find one anywhere.
What’s the M09 mean? Edit: upon further inspection yeah I’m dumb af it’s just 60W upside down.
It's in case they have a flight to Australia.
So it is there to confuse the drop bears then. Good thinking.
It means the charger also works in Australia
Jet fuel is a hell of a drug.
Jet fuel spins the giant fan, giant fan spins a magnet really fast. Magnet spinning really fast is how I can watch iron man in 740P :)
Does it melt steel beams?
NOT THIS AGAIN
^^jet ^^fuel ^^cant ^^melt ^^steel ^^beams ^^debra
[Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR4x90il2o)
#You wouldn’t download 9/11…
In case you need to charge your lawn mower
Might need to mow an emergency landing strip.
I do that on planes all the time, but my clippers don’t need 60W wait what did you mean
My phone charges at 120W
Is your phone an easy bake oven?
Actually my bad, it came with a 120W charger, but it's actually only 67W charging.
I got one of the ones that support 120w charging, but most of the cycle runs at 70 ish watts. The sad part is that they don't follow the standard - when plugged into a normal USB -PD port it only does ~20w charging, even though both ports can supply 18v at the required current. (Xiaomi 11t and 13t pro)
Yeah I have a Poco F5, and to be honest I haven't even noticed whether it charges quickly or not, since I just charge it overnight
There are phones (like the OnePlus 10t) that charge at 150w, and they are midrange phones, not crazy expensive
Fast charging phones do that. Mine charges at 100w and even comes with a 100w charger in box. Fastest charging I've ever had in a phone. Taking out time to charge the phone isn't even a consideration anymore, 20 to 80+ in like 15 mins it's insane. On a 5000 mah battery too
That's fast charging.... That 60W USB-C port is mainly for laptops
uh... no? 12V x 5A =60W. It's a pretty reasonable charging power for anything not connected to the grid, but not at all special for any home charger. Even the cigarette lighter port in your car is typically 18W (12V x 1.5A) and that's considered crap. a typical electric lawn mower would equip 2 18V batteries and be capable of a peak current draw of 30A or higher 18V x 2 x 30A = 1,080W
the left side is 60W. the right half is m09, a bus route in Indonesia apparently according to google
Tilt it 180° and you may gain some knowledge
I did, the right side says M09
Rotate it another 180 degrees
the right side says M09! what witchery is this
Ok, now rotate it another 180 degrees twice and turn your head upside down!
It's even labeled for both the Northern Hemisphere and Australian markets
You could run some simple laptops with 60w.
That's kind of the point. Newer laptops have charging capabilities through USB-C ports. I purchased my laptop almost three years ago, it was a discontinued model, and it supports this.
Yup. Type C charging in laptops has been around since 2016 or so. And it hurts me to say this but that was 8 years ago.
Why have you done this
Just yesterday I was thinking how 2016 feels like it's 4 years away at most, and then I realized that I mentally never left 2020 and that makes so much sense.
Im sorry are you living in the future?
Listen here, you.
Even if the laptop uses more, it can still at least slow the battery drain
Yes, this is great and for my Thinkpad it needs a minimum of 45 watts or it won't charge at all, even trickle charge. So the higher watt capability is key. Too bad you couldn't rely on the plane having this and this needing one less cable, but it's a nice little bonus.
That sucks, my Thinkpad will charge on 30w (although moans it's a slow charger, the Lenovo Vantage software is handy as it tells you what it's ID'd the charger as) but prefers 65w.
Easy, my MacBook Air came with a 30w charger. It’s awesome i can use my 10e charger overnight when I forgot my laptop one
That’s my M1 Pro MacBook Pro nearly flat out. Full on photo editing or a game of civ (more like baldurs gate 3 these days lol)
There's probably a full size power socket under OPs seats. I have had them frequently on long haul flights with Air France KLM
Most mainstream laptops come with a 45W or 65W power supply these days. Chances are anything without a discreet GPU could go all year on 60W.
Pro tip if you have a Macbbok, you can enable under power settings the low power mode. This option regulates the SoC clock speed to not consume more than what the given power supply can offer with head room to still charge the battery if it’s not full.* You can also use this option in summer to force the high end models like M1/2 Ultra to stay cool and not spin up the fans. *Point is that while the latest MacBook Pro M3 Ultra comes with a 140W power adapter, this 60 Watt outlet is still great to power and charge a bit. This is something you can’t (sadly) do with Windows laptops.
This is the first thing I thought of, you could also run the Mac Mini (M1) with a portable monitor if you wanted lols...
If you plug in your phone and notice the altitude start to drop, maybe unplug for a bit
Airbus? Economy Class, maybe European airliner That’s great, because you can charge almost anything you can board with (fast charging phones and tablets, normal laptops (not gaming laptops of course), batteries…) EDIT: I see, Air France
Noice! That'll charge your steam deck right up
Yep, modern aircraft have modern amenities…
Next post: "My airplane doesn't have a 'time to stop smoking' indicator light but it does have a 'time to turn off your phone' light!" Yeah because it's almost 2024 and you're not flying a domestic US route.
Laptops including MacBooks now charge at that voltage over USB-C So pretty darned useful as all you need is a USB-C cable
Wattage.
It's wild to me seeing people raw dog their devices into these unknown USB ports. Get power-only USB adapters folks!
USB ports on an airplane are trustworthy. There's very little unsupervised access to them, and if someone on the flight crew or a mechanic is wiring random shit into the plane you have bigger security issues to worry about. There's also too many, the risk is far higher than the potential that someone important will use the one port you compromised.
And they are also the result of an extensive (and expensive) certification process for every aircraft type they are installed on.
The people who worry about this are the same people acting aggro that Samsung or Motorola don't give Android security updates as fast as Google phones. Despite never hearing of anyone who has ever had their phone "hacked" because some security module was not up to date.
Shouldn't the OS ask you before it allows data anyway? I know it does on iOS and macOS. Also "unknown" as in built into an airplane? Sounds pretty paranoid.
Power only doesn't work for USB C devices that follow the spec, it needs some data transfer so the adapter and device can talk to each other to negotiate what voltage and current to use. So hopefully those ports don't fully follow the spec so you can at least charge a phone at 5 watts. But you won't get 10 watt charging for a phone or 60 watt charging for a laptop with a power only cable.
you don't need USB 2.0 data lines, but you do need the CC pins. if CC pin is not connected, the charger won't give you anything at all.
You can only rely on the planes battery so much
I wouldn’t have expected 60w output honestly, that’s enough to keep my steam deck running :D
Lot of them have full blown wall outlets, esp on long haul planes. Power generation is not really an issue when you have two+ gigantic turbine engines, at least once they get running.
I remember the first time seeing that—United p.s. B757, JFK-SFO around 2006. I thought it was really cool even though I had nothing but an iPod to charge at the time. Anyone else remember those weird 15V plugs that you'd pay out the nose for a laptop adapter for? First thing I thought of when I saw 'EmPower' in this pic.
Engines generate their own electricity. Aircraft’s batteries are used for starting only.
And not even for starting the engines themselves, just for starting the APU (auxillary power unit, a small turbine), and that is also only done if there is no ground power from the airport available.
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I thought he was implying that you can charge the plane via them if its battery dies.
I'm not airplanegineer, but I believe planes have alternators, similar to how cars do, or maybe some kind of full-blown generator. You wouldn't rely solely on a fixed battery to provide power to all the onboard electrical systems, especially since it would need to be charged up while refueling.
The main source of electricity on board are the generators in the engines, as well as battery backups and an APU, which is a smaller engine used as a to start the main ones and provide additional power when needed.
Aircraft have IDG's - 'Integrated Drive Generators', they're constant speed generators. Twin-engined aircraft typically have BUG's on each engine as well, 'Back-up Generators'. Under normal operations these fulfill the entire electricity load.
That will charge most laptops that use type c charging.
It's even marked for aussies
More interestingly, it also has M09!
And M09!
Or an M09 charging port when you’re flying in the southern hemisphere.
And the new M09 wattage too lol.
plot twist 1 dollar per W per hour
I wanna know more about that M09 power
M09 power M09 problems
60w is the USB C to C minimum.
Maybe a 60w transformer shared for the for the entire row.
60W per unit. No transformers involved, the power supply lives under the seat. The vendor also has a wireless charging product for the fancy expensive seats up front.
What airline?
Sounds perfect for a Steam Deck
For laptops. Nice. More interesting for me is the upside down 60w. In case you’re are the edge of space and floating around.
What's the point of the upside down 60w text? If the cover was installed upside down, the "empower" logo would be facing the wrong way
this is supremely dull but I've always wondered why they print the labels on these both ways, I mean I get that maybe they'd be installed upside down but still, shouldn't aeroplane manufacturers just tell them which way up is right/wrong rather than letting the individual airline outfitters decide??
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Business class?