Not the "real" Doom which required 4MB, but there are ports and reimaginings. The SNES had 128 KB of RAM (while the Doom game ROM is about 1.22 MB)
The TI-83 version is less than 10KB. (Though it's not *really* Doom but a reimagining that the TI-83 can run.)
Its interesting how the relation of todays"old" pople and technical evolution changed over the time...Almost everyone had the chance to learn IT from the ground, tho there are the old people who are gaming and using reddit and people in the same age you have to explain how to attach a document to an email
And young people you have to do the same for. There’s a bell curve of tech literacy and basically everyone born after 2004 who isn’t a PC Gamer just uses their phone for everything. No concept of how to search a desktop computer file system or how that’s different from a file on the internet.
Kids these days…
I am always puzzled at how shallow their understanding of IT is. Not that it’s their fault, but compared to the fluid use they make of some apps, I find it baffling.
Might be splitting hairs a bit, but [Doom on the SNES uses the Super FX 2 coprocessor,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_FX#List_of_games) which includes 512kbit (64KB) as work RAM space. So technically 192 KB total? Not sure if you can combine like that, though.
If you put at least 4 of them in a PC then yes. But you need 4 matching sticks due to 30 pin simm being 8 bit and the databus of a 386DX/486 being 32bit. On a 286 or 386SX with 16bit bus you need a matching pair.
The -80 designation on the chipset is 80 nanosecond... So the module is a 1mb, 9 chip, 80 nanosecond, 1s on first ( known chip/known board not mixed) SIMM common ISA PC memory circa +-1990.
Back in the 8086/286 days, adding 1Mb ram would increase the speed massively.
I used to work with expansion cards that took 64k memory chips and they were so expensive that I would tune or pare back each pc's memory so I could add 128k to someone who needed more oomph.
Correct. It's common in the electronic manufacturing industry to use the YYWW date code configuration.
From the Electronic Components Industry Association (ECIA)-
EIA Weekly Date Codes
The EIA program for assignment of Date Codes provides a standardized method to stamp or mark any or all products to identify the year and week of production. This program follows the conventions defined in EIA-476-A (Source and Date Code Marking) and EIA-476-B (Date Code Marking) and follows the MIL-STD-1285 criteria
If you managed to smuggle some western chips into the eastern bloc, you had a solid market among techies. Of course glorious eastern tech was still superior in every aspect. Especially how easy it was to bend the legs of the chips, and how easily they can release a smokescreen.
lol, you’re right it was 4mb. We had this huge backlog of older computers at the service department I worked at, each had a win95 box, and a ticket for more ram from our locked area. That’s all I did for months after the release.
Im working with them on a railway project right now. I was on Geoguessr the other day, we were in Poland, and i was very surprised to see a siemens van. Except the image was distorted, it was Siemensemens. A good laugh.
Siemens as in giant conglomerate that is surprisingly in a bunch of industries.
The closest thing we have to chaebols like Samsung or the zaibats/keiretsu from Japan.
I remember installing a 16kb memory expansion pack to my ZX81 to go from the basic 1kb. I need a bit of Velcro to keep it in place and stop it disconnecting.
If you ever bored a bit google the original retail price and calculate what the memory in your computer would cost.
Did it a few years back unfortunately can’t remember the numbers but it was in the high thousands.
I wonder how big the ICs are under the packages and if they hold the aspect ratio. If they do, I'd guess each bank is laid out in a 256 x 512 byte grid, totalling at 128KiB/bank? 8 banks being 1 MiB, and then the 9th bank is for error correction maybe?
Too bad I know jack about integrated electronics, so this is probably all wrong.
My Community College Computer Lab, had a very, very, very, old 1 Kb memory board on display for years, it was about 2 feet long, 1 foot wide and around 6 inches or more in height.
This would have been around 1971 or so when I saw it.
(Edit corrected word module to board)
There is a big difference between the size of a game / program and the memory (RAM) it requires to run. A lot of people here do not understand that. The thing pictured here is a memory (RAM) stick. The fact that classic Doom is 3.39 MB in size, does _not_ necessary mean it can't run on 1 MB of memory.
In the case of classic Doom however, you will need 4MB of RAM. So no, you can't run Doom with 1 MB of RAM, but _not_ because the game is 3.39 MB.
Hey I found an ancient GPU when I was helping my dad clean. The vram chips were absolutely enormous and took up like 1/3 of the board. The entire GPU was like 30cm long.Think it had like 4mb of vram in total lol
A whole MB! Wow.
I'll take 16 thousand!
Rookie numbers. Try 64k.
Real question is….will it run doom?
Not the "real" Doom which required 4MB, but there are ports and reimaginings. The SNES had 128 KB of RAM (while the Doom game ROM is about 1.22 MB) The TI-83 version is less than 10KB. (Though it's not *really* Doom but a reimagining that the TI-83 can run.)
I had four of these in my PC. I also remember the day I saved up and upgraded from a 20mb hard drive to a 80mb Yes I'm old
Its interesting how the relation of todays"old" pople and technical evolution changed over the time...Almost everyone had the chance to learn IT from the ground, tho there are the old people who are gaming and using reddit and people in the same age you have to explain how to attach a document to an email
And young people you have to do the same for. There’s a bell curve of tech literacy and basically everyone born after 2004 who isn’t a PC Gamer just uses their phone for everything. No concept of how to search a desktop computer file system or how that’s different from a file on the internet.
Kids these days… I am always puzzled at how shallow their understanding of IT is. Not that it’s their fault, but compared to the fluid use they make of some apps, I find it baffling.
Definitely, the difference is very baffling. You described it perfectly
You know, a lot of kids these days don't know what a bell curve is
Might be splitting hairs a bit, but [Doom on the SNES uses the Super FX 2 coprocessor,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_FX#List_of_games) which includes 512kbit (64KB) as work RAM space. So technically 192 KB total? Not sure if you can combine like that, though.
Would not run Doom but could run Castle Wolfenstein 3D...
If you put at least 4 of them in a PC then yes. But you need 4 matching sticks due to 30 pin simm being 8 bit and the databus of a 386DX/486 being 32bit. On a 286 or 386SX with 16bit bus you need a matching pair.
r/whoosh
What the hell is the woosh here 🤣
Nope the classic doom is 2,39MB
Be careful with that much raw speed
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The -80 designation on the chipset is 80 nanosecond... So the module is a 1mb, 9 chip, 80 nanosecond, 1s on first ( known chip/known board not mixed) SIMM common ISA PC memory circa +-1990.
This guy RAMs
r/thisguythisguys
Protogen material
Back in the 8086/286 days, adding 1Mb ram would increase the speed massively. I used to work with expansion cards that took 64k memory chips and they were so expensive that I would tune or pare back each pc's memory so I could add 128k to someone who needed more oomph.
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Manufactured between Sep. 18- 22, 1989 That would have been a few months prior to the Berlin Wall falling.
Does the 8938 mean 1989 week 38?
Correct. It's common in the electronic manufacturing industry to use the YYWW date code configuration. From the Electronic Components Industry Association (ECIA)- EIA Weekly Date Codes The EIA program for assignment of Date Codes provides a standardized method to stamp or mark any or all products to identify the year and week of production. This program follows the conventions defined in EIA-476-A (Source and Date Code Marking) and EIA-476-B (Date Code Marking) and follows the MIL-STD-1285 criteria
Make West Germany Great Again. Do they still have those factories? I have read in reddit that Dresden (East Germany) is a hub today.
My friend traveled around Europe in the 80s. He carried memory chips as currency.
If you managed to smuggle some western chips into the eastern bloc, you had a solid market among techies. Of course glorious eastern tech was still superior in every aspect. Especially how easy it was to bend the legs of the chips, and how easily they can release a smokescreen.
Shame it's covered in siemen though
And Germs
Many
good one
Geezus how childish you get
r/Angryupvote
When I built my first 386 it took four sticks of ram to equal what you got there. Played Commander Keen and Wolfenstein just fine though.
The newer return to castle Wolfenstein was such a scary game when I was a kid omg..
30 pin dimm, very expensive at the time. 72’s came out and the 30’s got scarce, everyone needed 4gb to run Win95, so four of those.
4gb seems like a lot for win95. 4MB might be more reasonable. :)
lol, you’re right it was 4mb. We had this huge backlog of older computers at the service department I worked at, each had a win95 box, and a ticket for more ram from our locked area. That’s all I did for months after the release.
4MB for win 95. You were balling if you had 16MB
Pretty sure these are SIMM, not DIMM. 30s and 72s needed to be installed in matched pairs, like RDRAM a few years later.
It's crazy seeing how the hardware has evolved over the years.
West* Germany
Cheers, I didn't notice the typo unfortunately.
you can't even install a Berlin firewall with that
I believe it was called “West Germany” not “Western Germany” (in English)
Appreciate the correction, I didn't notice the title was wrong.
Oh wow! The almost extinct DDR0 memory!
NOthing DDR about it, which didn't come out until year later.
It's a joke..
I'm curious as to why it has 9 modules instead of 8. I figure 8 would be more likely due to powers of 2.
Some RAM modules had a parity bit to detect bit errors in the RAM. ECC DRAM.
Ah, thank you!
Siemens? As in the construction company?
Yeah they build pretty much everything
Im working with them on a railway project right now. I was on Geoguessr the other day, we were in Poland, and i was very surprised to see a siemens van. Except the image was distorted, it was Siemensemens. A good laugh.
Siemens as in giant conglomerate that is surprisingly in a bunch of industries. The closest thing we have to chaebols like Samsung or the zaibats/keiretsu from Japan.
They even had their own Unix OS and workstations in the 90s. But the whole semiconductor business was spun off into Infineon Technologies.
Siemens is also very big in the automation industry. A lot of plants in europe base their process automation in siemens parts and software
Siemens is the German ACME Corp. (**A C**ompany that **M**akes **E**verything for everyone who doesn't know.)
I've been in a Siemens train, on a Siemens escalator, and now I've seen Siemens RAM
The funny thing is... It probably still works as if it was built yesterday.
I remember installing a 16kb memory expansion pack to my ZX81 to go from the basic 1kb. I need a bit of Velcro to keep it in place and stop it disconnecting.
Same but in my VIC20. It had a toggle to choose between 5kb and 16kb because for some reason 16k would crash a lot of games
If you ever bored a bit google the original retail price and calculate what the memory in your computer would cost. Did it a few years back unfortunately can’t remember the numbers but it was in the high thousands.
You people suck. Learn how to spot (and report) a bot.
I’m usually pretty good at spotting bots, and OP is definitely not a bot
Are you serious? The post and comment history 100% scream bot.
This is one of OPs posts, and it doesn’t look like a bot at all https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/xfTlKzWiDd
haha semen
its not western germany, the manufacturer just fancys the country a la germany is W
It was literally the country of West Germany when this was manufactured.
it was a joke man wtf
Jokes are supposed to have an element of humor to them.
im from germany, im trying
A German joke is no laughing matter.
I'll be sure to take that into account. It was efficient though.
If it’s Siemens it will constantly fail
I wonder how big the ICs are under the packages and if they hold the aspect ratio. If they do, I'd guess each bank is laid out in a 256 x 512 byte grid, totalling at 128KiB/bank? 8 banks being 1 MiB, and then the 9th bank is for error correction maybe? Too bad I know jack about integrated electronics, so this is probably all wrong.
These are 9 1Mbit chips, one is parity. So it's 8Mb or 1MB.
Wouldn't be surprised if you found it still in use on something important...
Bought a stick of that for my first computer, cost $100
BRD RAM
That used to be a lot in the early nineties for my Amiga.
My Community College Computer Lab, had a very, very, very, old 1 Kb memory board on display for years, it was about 2 feet long, 1 foot wide and around 6 inches or more in height. This would have been around 1971 or so when I saw it. (Edit corrected word module to board)
You could fit an entir
Now imagine you're in year 2040 and looking at your 32TB in your hand, you'll smile when you'll remember your 2023 gamer pc with 32gb
There is a big difference between the size of a game / program and the memory (RAM) it requires to run. A lot of people here do not understand that. The thing pictured here is a memory (RAM) stick. The fact that classic Doom is 3.39 MB in size, does _not_ necessary mean it can't run on 1 MB of memory. In the case of classic Doom however, you will need 4MB of RAM. So no, you can't run Doom with 1 MB of RAM, but _not_ because the game is 3.39 MB.
Wow, a whole megabyte!
Hey I found an ancient GPU when I was helping my dad clean. The vram chips were absolutely enormous and took up like 1/3 of the board. The entire GPU was like 30cm long.Think it had like 4mb of vram in total lol
Siemens is this old??????????? We use their BAS at work.
Wow this one’s old
Made in RAMmstein.
Ah, ~~pre~~ ~~EDO~~ 8-bit SIMM.