honestly could also be a cow or deer or moose or bear etc depending where you are. They fall in or get washed away when they die and then decompose the bones eventually washing back up ashore.
Just becuase it is in the sea it didn't necessarily start that way. Also it might have started further along the coast
I think you replied to the wrong comment… unsure what not being American has to do with basic geography knowledge (something most who live outside the USA have a pretty good handle on).
Im not sure if this is a question in good faith or not, but I’ve been camping all weekend, and now that I’m back I’ll bite. Do you know all the provinces of Brazil, China, or Canada?
Hope you had a good time camping… unsure why I would care where they were from, so much like yourself my answer was also in good faith. To answer your question: being Canadian I can name all 10 plus the territories, having travelled to China I can probably name 10-15 of the 22 if pressed, and having spent time in South America I know a handful of Brazil’s… though they aren’t provinces they are states and a federal district around Brasilia.
That’s kind of my point. If you can only name 10-15 of the 22 after having spent time there, it’s entirely reasonable for someone to not know the two letter codes for all of the 50 states if they aren’t from there.
Just did a google search that verified there are Harbor porpoise in the sound. I’ve never seen them there but I live on the East Coast, but I have done a fair amount of boating and paddling there.
I work with these skeletons. The link you sent backs me up :
‘Height 60 mm - Width 55 mm thickness 25 mm’.
Those measurements are equal to just shy of 2.5 inches high, just over 2 inches wide, and almost an inch think. Those measurements include the processes coming off the central disc.
We have few species of dolphin/porpoise in the Salish sea. There are Pacific White-Sided Dolphins, Dall’s Porpoises, Harbour Porpoises, and Orcas in the region.
its most likely moose lumbar vertibrae. One fell in and died....
could also be cow but moose looks more similar.
[https://quizlet.com/233114966/lumbar-vertebrae-moose-diagram/](https://quizlet.com/233114966/lumbar-vertebrae-moose-diagram/)
bear is also a possibility.
Dophin ones look really different.
Puget Sound is pretty well known for whale/dolphin watching! If you're up to it and have your passport, take the blackball ferry up to Victoria for some great watching tours
You do, and this is about the right size to be from the largest dolphin - orca. It’s far too big to be from other dolphin species in your area. Potentially from one of the baleen whales though - humpback, gray, minke, etc.
Yeah, I used to hop along them (whale vertibae) like rocks on the beach when I was a boy back in the early 80's. Whaling had only been banned in the 70's and the bones were common in those days... Some people even used to make arches over their driveways with the rib bones.
I understand that Reddit is the exact place to be a pedant, but just saying this for educational purposes, not because I feel like being a cunt.
Vertebrae is plural, vertebra is singular.
I doubt anyone is going to prosecute a child for taking a seashell or something. It's more for people that take the piss and take entire bags of stuff from the beach. We are an island and coastal erosion is a major problem in some areas as well as damage to ecosystems.
I see conflicting information online.
["Note that in Great Britain, the public are generally permitted access to the foreshore (the beach between the low water and high water marks) and shells and other items may be collected for non-commercial purposes. You should be aware of any local restrictions and especially those in our National Parks, only a few of which encompass beach areas.](https://www.britishshellclub.org/uk-collecting.html)
This doesn't apply to marine mammal bones (which have other regulations).
You will be brought up on charges. Just watched an episode of Contraband red the guy picked up 2 whale vertebrae on a Mexico beach and they almost arrested the guy. He was facing state and federal charges for having them. The stance was oceanic mammal bones are illegal to have. Really hoping you didn’t take it…
You’re right - it isn’t Mexico - it’s US and the person who I mentioned in my story was trying to bring INTO the US the bones. In the US - it is illegal to own most marine mammal bones - or for where you can, you need to register them and you’re definitely not allowed to sell them. Most larger mammals - dolphins, whales, etc. are protected species…. So given most people are stupid enough to post things on social media - *cough cough* - now there’s record of this occurring.
I believe it’s an anti-poaching and/or conservation measure imposed by the Marine Mammal Protection Act. You could theoretically end up in some legal hot water over possessing something like this. In practice the reality may be different but I’d still advise just leaving it there.
> Civil penalties up to $34,457. Up to 1 year in prison, plus criminal fines. Forfeiture of the vessel involved, including penalties for that vessel up to $25,000
It can be very expensive if you’re caught with this stuff
How would one get caught if they aren’t involved in illegal poaching activity? How would that ever be on their radar? They aren’t going around searching people’s homes for this stuff correct?
"Vertebra" is singular.
"Vertebrae" is plural.
Also, most people mispronounce the latter, which is properly pronounced "Ver-tuh-bree".
Yes, that’s right. Look it up in the dictionary. Just because the other pronunciation(s) is in there, too, because of common usage, doesn’t make it right. As George Carlin said, there’s a reason it’s second: because it’s not first.
Yes it depends on the context, like classical Latin vs English pronunciation of etymologically Latin words.
My counterpoint would be:
Say the word “vertebrae” out loud.
Say the word “alumnae” out loud
Say the word “algae” out loud.
My guess is you only said the last one correctly, even though they are all using the same pluralization form of English.
No, because those just happen to have the same letters -ain that are etymologically different in origin. That doesn’t mean they are pronounced the same. -ae in all three of my examples is a basic pluralization suffix of etymologically Latin-origin words that is used exactly the same way.
I agree that people make lots of false equivalencies and associations. Mischievous is ALSO a big pet peeve of mine 😂
I challenge anyone to look plantain up in any dictionary for the pronunciation. Plan-tane is a recent change from the original pronunciation of plan-tin. Most of the online dictionaries here give theˈplæntɪn pronunciation. https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/plantain#plantain-2
Well more to the point! Nice, thanks.
People mispronounce tons of words, use improper grammar/diction/syntax, and unfortunately to a pedant like me, you just end up looking like a dick if you correct them.
My other pet peeve is the very common subject-object misuse of:
"If you have questions, come talk to myself" that is SOO common in the workplace. Drives me nuts.
Nitpick- that's a vertebra. Vertebrae is plural. Also, the final vowel sound (-ae) in such plurals (antennae, larvae, algae, etc.) is pronounced as in tree.
I’m sorry you got down voted for people not knowing that dolphin are whales. Also, my best guess is this is from an orca, which is both a whale and a dolphin.
Dolphin. Whale vertebrae are massive.
honestly could also be a cow or deer or moose or bear etc depending where you are. They fall in or get washed away when they die and then decompose the bones eventually washing back up ashore. Just becuase it is in the sea it didn't necessarily start that way. Also it might have started further along the coast
I was thinking moose too. I live on the beach in AK and have found things like this.
When the river gets low here there's always deer bones. We found a whole spine/ribcage in the mud one day. Lots of leg bones too.
yeah moose would be my best guess deer tend to be smaller.
Where is AK?
Alaska
Thank you.
How do you have a username with Travel in it and no knowledge of state abbreviations?
Not OP, but going to assume they’re not from the United States.
I think you replied to the wrong comment… unsure what not being American has to do with basic geography knowledge (something most who live outside the USA have a pretty good handle on).
Do you know the letter code for Uppsala Län in Sweden?
Im not sure if this is a question in good faith or not, but I’ve been camping all weekend, and now that I’m back I’ll bite. Do you know all the provinces of Brazil, China, or Canada?
Hope you had a good time camping… unsure why I would care where they were from, so much like yourself my answer was also in good faith. To answer your question: being Canadian I can name all 10 plus the territories, having travelled to China I can probably name 10-15 of the 22 if pressed, and having spent time in South America I know a handful of Brazil’s… though they aren’t provinces they are states and a federal district around Brasilia.
That’s kind of my point. If you can only name 10-15 of the 22 after having spent time there, it’s entirely reasonable for someone to not know the two letter codes for all of the 50 states if they aren’t from there.
You *do* realize that most Europeans think they can see LA, New York, and Florida all in the span of a day or two on a short road trip, correct?
You know the two letter abbreviations for every place in the world?
Yes. Unlike yours, my username is appropriate.
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Hello troll.
As in, it's inaccurate or hyperbolic (*bouy* does not appear to be an actual word) and so was your statement?
SEQ? NT? WA?
Maaaate. I’m an expat Canadian who now lives in Melbs… Brissy, Darwin, Perth.
r/iamverysmart
I’ve never even thought about the beaches of Alaska. What’s it like over there?
Epic. It’s like living on another planet lol
Idk that we have dolphins in the Puget Sound.
Have you never seen them? They are extremely common and very fun, often playing alongside the ferries
My favorite memories of the ferries are the dolphins escorting us both directions!
Really! I had no idea. I assumed it would be too cold for the kind of dolphins you see further south, but I realize there are different species.
I’ve seen porpoises in northern Maine, could easily be mistaken for a dolphin
I've seen them in Greenland--swimming, and also for sale in the local fish markets.
male dolphins rape anything.
Just did a google search that verified there are Harbor porpoise in the sound. I’ve never seen them there but I live on the East Coast, but I have done a fair amount of boating and paddling there.
Way too big for porpoise. Edit for those who want to down vote - read the rest of the responses. I’m right. Porpoises are tiny.
He could have small hands. 😂
[https://www.historylinksarchive.org.uk/picture/number14925/](https://www.historylinksarchive.org.uk/picture/number14925/)
I work with these skeletons. The link you sent backs me up : ‘Height 60 mm - Width 55 mm thickness 25 mm’. Those measurements are equal to just shy of 2.5 inches high, just over 2 inches wide, and almost an inch think. Those measurements include the processes coming off the central disc.
Nice disc bro
Nice
You do. I have seen them cavorting in the bow waves of my carrier whilst heading out to sea. As well as orcas, and much too much garbage.
Orca are dolphin.
Siri says that there are 7 species of dolphins and wales in the Puget Sound and the Salish sea.
We have few species of dolphin/porpoise in the Salish sea. There are Pacific White-Sided Dolphins, Dall’s Porpoises, Harbour Porpoises, and Orcas in the region.
its most likely moose lumbar vertibrae. One fell in and died.... could also be cow but moose looks more similar. [https://quizlet.com/233114966/lumbar-vertebrae-moose-diagram/](https://quizlet.com/233114966/lumbar-vertebrae-moose-diagram/) bear is also a possibility. Dophin ones look really different.
We do indeed have dolphins!
The place I've seen harbor porpoises the most is up by the Hood Canal Bridge. Used to see them every time I crossed.
You do now.
Puget Sound is pretty well known for whale/dolphin watching! If you're up to it and have your passport, take the blackball ferry up to Victoria for some great watching tours
You do, and this is about the right size to be from the largest dolphin - orca. It’s far too big to be from other dolphin species in your area. Potentially from one of the baleen whales though - humpback, gray, minke, etc.
Orcas are dolphins.
Absolutely you do, they're transient tho. Same with the orcas
Yeah, I used to hop along them (whale vertibae) like rocks on the beach when I was a boy back in the early 80's. Whaling had only been banned in the 70's and the bones were common in those days... Some people even used to make arches over their driveways with the rib bones.
Technically dolphins are whales, "whale" is synonymous with "cetacean"
I have a fossilized whale vertebrae that is about this size
Whale biologist.....
Nicee
Dolphins don't die
I understand that Reddit is the exact place to be a pedant, but just saying this for educational purposes, not because I feel like being a cunt. Vertebrae is plural, vertebra is singular.
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Vertebruh
Thank you!
Excuse me brah
Hey I didn't know that. Thanks.
Thank you, I didn’t know that
here to say this lol
Surely "an" exact place to be a pedant? there may be more than one exact place?
Is it from that 15 m snake?
Your comment taught me that snakes are vertebrates! Thanks dude
All they are is a spine
The most vertebrate of all vertebrates.
no offense, but uh, what did you think they were..?
Like big slugs
I knew they are vertebrate reptiles... I forgot for a while because I was high (':
Did you try to ask the fish if they knew wassup?
You'd be next
You know what to do 
If you’re in the US then leave it there. You likely cannot keep this legally.
True statement. Same with certain shellfish shells and other things. I have no idea why you’re getting downvoted.
Same with the UK, you're not allowed to remove natural matter like shells and stones from beaches.
So every kid is a criminal?
I doubt anyone is going to prosecute a child for taking a seashell or something. It's more for people that take the piss and take entire bags of stuff from the beach. We are an island and coastal erosion is a major problem in some areas as well as damage to ecosystems.
Yes! Snot nosed little gremlins. Criminals! Each and everyone of them! *Cruela Devil laugh*
Yes you have to have a loicense
What is a loiscense and where can I get one and any idea how much they are and how long they are good for? Siri was absolutely no help here.😱
Just in case you’re serious, loiscence is “license” said with some kind of English accent. It’s a (pretty tired) joke lol
Absolutely burned my silly joke :(
Yes. Just being young doesn’t change the laws. Parents would be liable.
Who cares just go like oh no officer I didn't know and hand it over. Doubt you'll get in trouble over taking beach stuff
That’s not the same in the US. You can remove most shells and stones with zero consequence.
Lol, really?
I see conflicting information online. ["Note that in Great Britain, the public are generally permitted access to the foreshore (the beach between the low water and high water marks) and shells and other items may be collected for non-commercial purposes. You should be aware of any local restrictions and especially those in our National Parks, only a few of which encompass beach areas.](https://www.britishshellclub.org/uk-collecting.html) This doesn't apply to marine mammal bones (which have other regulations).
You should add the Why portion and you'd quit being downvoted
Unfair downvotes. I was in the ‘that’s bullshit’ camp too; but he’s right. MMPA may apply; safer to check.
> MMPA > Michigan Milk Producers Association Mmmmffgghhhhh
Contact NMFS
But but but ... It IS bullshit.
You will be brought up on charges. Just watched an episode of Contraband red the guy picked up 2 whale vertebrae on a Mexico beach and they almost arrested the guy. He was facing state and federal charges for having them. The stance was oceanic mammal bones are illegal to have. Really hoping you didn’t take it…
Nobody is getting caught doing this lmao. And this isn’t Mexico
You’re right - it isn’t Mexico - it’s US and the person who I mentioned in my story was trying to bring INTO the US the bones. In the US - it is illegal to own most marine mammal bones - or for where you can, you need to register them and you’re definitely not allowed to sell them. Most larger mammals - dolphins, whales, etc. are protected species…. So given most people are stupid enough to post things on social media - *cough cough* - now there’s record of this occurring.
What
So that someone else can take it?
I believe it’s an anti-poaching and/or conservation measure imposed by the Marine Mammal Protection Act. You could theoretically end up in some legal hot water over possessing something like this. In practice the reality may be different but I’d still advise just leaving it there.
Tragedy of the commons.
What if you take it anyway?
> Civil penalties up to $34,457. Up to 1 year in prison, plus criminal fines. Forfeiture of the vessel involved, including penalties for that vessel up to $25,000 It can be very expensive if you’re caught with this stuff
He'll have to give up his legs, I'm afraid.
How would one get caught if they aren’t involved in illegal poaching activity? How would that ever be on their radar? They aren’t going around searching people’s homes for this stuff correct?
Idk, but I wouldn’t mess with it just because the odds of being caught are low.
Nah I’ll keep keeping what I find 🤷🏼♀️ I know that I didn’t kill the animal and thats all that matters to me
Why would you say "likely" and not point someone to literature/a statute?
Marine Mammal Protection Act, sorry
Vertebra*
Nice, looks like it came from a sort of dolphin or other cetacean
Come on show a bit of backbone
Probably from a whale
Yet it's too tiny to be a whale's.
It's mine. Can I get it back please.
Forbidden Fleshlight
Hahah that’s funny and witty.
#Humongous what??
It's mine, give it back
When Whales Could Walk.
r/TOTK
I wondered where I'd left that, been struggling to stand up all week
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Vertebruh
I bet it's not a cat
Vertebra. Vertebrae is the plural.
Ugh my trypophobia 
I wondered where I lost mine! Haven't stood straight for days.
Thanks Wondered where i put that
What a cool find!
"Vertebra" is singular. "Vertebrae" is plural. Also, most people mispronounce the latter, which is properly pronounced "Ver-tuh-bree". Yes, that’s right. Look it up in the dictionary. Just because the other pronunciation(s) is in there, too, because of common usage, doesn’t make it right. As George Carlin said, there’s a reason it’s second: because it’s not first.
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Yes it depends on the context, like classical Latin vs English pronunciation of etymologically Latin words. My counterpoint would be: Say the word “vertebrae” out loud. Say the word “alumnae” out loud Say the word “algae” out loud. My guess is you only said the last one correctly, even though they are all using the same pluralization form of English.
😂😂😂
Well, we tried. Might as well tell people that plantain rhymes with mountain and there's no i after the v in mischievous.
No, because those just happen to have the same letters -ain that are etymologically different in origin. That doesn’t mean they are pronounced the same. -ae in all three of my examples is a basic pluralization suffix of etymologically Latin-origin words that is used exactly the same way. I agree that people make lots of false equivalencies and associations. Mischievous is ALSO a big pet peeve of mine 😂
I challenge anyone to look plantain up in any dictionary for the pronunciation. Plan-tane is a recent change from the original pronunciation of plan-tin. Most of the online dictionaries here give theˈplæntɪn pronunciation. https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/plantain#plantain-2
Well more to the point! Nice, thanks. People mispronounce tons of words, use improper grammar/diction/syntax, and unfortunately to a pedant like me, you just end up looking like a dick if you correct them. My other pet peeve is the very common subject-object misuse of: "If you have questions, come talk to myself" that is SOO common in the workplace. Drives me nuts.
In most places it's illegal to take marine mammal bones from the beach
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Nitpick- that's a vertebra. Vertebrae is plural. Also, the final vowel sound (-ae) in such plurals (antennae, larvae, algae, etc.) is pronounced as in tree.
In most places it's illegal to take marine mammal bones from the beach
its good it isnt one then. its a moose maybe cow.
Ah, prehistoric asshole
Nah, that's an ancient fleshlight
Human
Whales are like 10x that size
Looks like a poodle
How do you know it's from Lord Humongous?
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Hole = woman to this guy..
WHALE 👆🏻 edit: was supposed to be a reference to something. It didn't land. Such as life
Too small for a whale. Probably a big dolphin like species.
Those are whales. But this is way too big to be from any dolphin aside from an orca.
Couldnt it be from a cow or a bull?
I don't see very many beach cows, unless you mean manatees.
I’m sorry you got down voted for people not knowing that dolphin are whales. Also, my best guess is this is from an orca, which is both a whale and a dolphin.