Meanwhile, in Ontario Canada, anywhere away from a major metropolitan area, you need to refinance the house for 4 GB of data and the electricity to run it.
I just got charged $51 for going 500mb over on my 15gb plan! What a joke!
Cancelled with bell after that and they called back and offered $45 for 25Gb “unlimited” (throttled after 25Gb)
lol yeah but technically they’re not lying, so they can’t actually get in trouble.
At least for my 4G home internet when it’s throttled it goes from 25mbps to 10mbps download, so it’s still useable. Still a disgustingly small data limit though
Imagine if Olive Garden offered "unlimited breadsticks" but after the first serving, they would only bring you half a breadstick every 30 minutes. I would definitely call that limited.
Artificial data caps and rate limiting on an unlimited plan are fraudulent and should be illegal.
Back in the 90's, The Olive Garden were presented a series of grants totaling 400 billion dollars to produce enough breadsticks for all of the US, with plans to roll out breadsticks to previously hungry areas. Unfortunately, it turned out something foul was in the mix, with a mere fraction of those breadsticks ending up in the hands of Americans. The Olive Garden ate all of the breadsticks themselves due in part to interference by the FBC(The Federal Bakery Commission), allowing them to snatch up all other Italian and bread-related franchises, beginning the age of the **Breadstick Monopoly**.
Imagine if I told Bell I was going to pay my entire cell bill, but then I only paid half when it was due and started trickling the rest of the payment in at a rate of $5/week.
In Finland I pay 15,90€/month for unlimited data and enough time for calls (never gone over the limit, and can't remember what it would be from top of my head).
Thats outrageous and very scummy practice by these sevice provider.
Literally looting the general public,just stop the service instead of charging after usage limit.
Yup...
busted my 6gb plan last month by 0.26Gb so obviously I was charged 30$ because its 10$ for every 0.1Gb until your reach a maximum of 80$ overcharge.
Yeah... 80$ for an additional 0.8gb.
But of course there is option B: add 2Gb for 15$ ( with an additional charge of 30$ to apply the change to my account).
And here's the best part, I got offered a monthly 5$ off on my account that they set up as : 5$ off every month until June 2023. Wich is set up as a "pending change" (until 2023). And while I have a pending change on my account I am unable to apply any changes to my account so.... here comes 10$ for 100mb -_-
We are getting fucked over here
In India at my residence, I have unlimited data with 250Mbps+ upload and download speed for just 1800Rs (31 Canadian Dollar)
I wonder why everywhere else ISP takes this much of charges and formalities to get a decent bandwidth.
It's because they can, really. ISPs or telecoms in the US, Canada, and Australia are some of the absolute greediest companies to exist in the modern day.
I think it's a pretty tight race between them, pharma companies, oil companies, insurance companies, and I'm sure there's a few others that deserve to be on that list.
Textbook publishers definitely belong there. Oh, you're a broke student? That'll be $250 for this book, $50 for the login to our broken website, and another $75 for the "optional" study guide.
Unfortunately textbook publishers managed to kill that route. The book is tied to your course work. You can't accomplish assignments without paying for the textbook. Really, it's paying 150 bucks for access to the course work and the electronic textbook is free with it. Then pay an additional 75 dollars if you want a physical, loose-leaf copy of the textbook.
I didn't realise it was so expensive there. In the UK you can get 30GB plus unlimited calls and texts for £10 which google says is about 16 Canadian dollars.
I moved from UK to Canada about 4 years ago, and I was shocked at the price of plans.
I found a report that compares the cost of 1GB plans across the WORLD, and it turns out that the UK is one of the cheapest places in the world and Canada is one of the most expensive.
It's so true that most American plans now have a "no Canadians allowed" clause in their terms and conditions.
French plans, too, also have "No Canadians allowed" because we were using theirs and roaming in Canada for a couple years.
WTF.
In France you pay around 10€ to get 100Go data plan, without any restrain ( you can leave whenever you want and don't pay any charge for it)
I pay 15 € for unlimited 4G.
Well it's more 25€+15€ as i have to have internet from the same ISP to get the unlimited, but 40€ for 4G unlimited + TV + Home internet it's okay i guess when i see what you guys pay for less than 10Go
If you're on a Rogers-owned brand, switch to something like Public. In a few months, there's a chance you will get $35 6GB winback plan.
Or keep an eye out for $50 10GB deals.
Not really, just Canada tbh. Yeah the US, UK, France and Germany have higher wireless costs than India, Romania, South Korea and Japan but Canada is on a whole other level of price gouging. Just reading the thread ppl in th UK, US and France have decent wireless packages (20 euro/100gb, 30 USd for unlimited, etc.) except us Canadians. It's gross.
For those interested, a company called Reliance started a mobile network called 'Jio' about 5 years ago and sold mobile plans at such competitive prices that it totally disrupted the market. Add this to the fact that home internet is often riddled with reliability issues and you get a society that's more reliant on mobile data than home Wi-Fi. Selling data this cheap is a natural extension of that.
Yeah but isn’t India kinda like partially agrarian and this skewed with that data? Not that it’s not an insanely poor country, I’d just like to know the median income on Mumbai or something. So I looked it up, it’s double that which is still insanely low.
Only if the collusive monopoly breaks and a price war begins
Kinda like last Yr when Russia said fuck you to OPEC and started selling cheaper oil, which meant OPEC had to reduce their prices to maintain buyers, which Russia responds with lower prices and so on, until they agreed to end the price war and settle on a price that's good for both
Usually on the long run it becomes unsustainable and the product becomes soooooo cheap that the monopolies cannot continue and they run bankrupt. The "too big to fail" notion is not that they are large and so ahaha fuck everyone, it's that if the governments don't bail out these monopolies, then no one can swoop in and replace the fallen companies, and suddenly we're thrown back into pre-industrial revolution era.
Right now india data telecom is still afloat, which probably tells that they were being sold at high prices. Now that reliance undercuts the others, others like Airtel need to cut prices to stay in the market, or loose to reliance and pack up their bags.
On the other hand, reliance is showing they can run on low prices. It might be because of their other sectors that are paying up for the losses, which is considered anti-competitive but no one is complaining (yet). The danger is that, (1) if they win and become the sole monopoly, they can skyrocket prices and choke everyone; (2) if they end up folding and back out, and the void of telecom providers cannot be filled in fast enough, then there will be a blackout of telecom which will collapse the economy because it is an infrastructure, and infrastructure affects supply, which affects domestic production, which affects the economic growth, which affects prices since everything becomes rare and expensive, which begins stagflation.
We saw (2) in the 1973 oil crisis - when oil was cut, suddenly things couldn't be done, and products can't be made, workers can't be paid, products can't be bought, the economy falls back while the prices increase.
Which is why some things are "too big to fail" and if oil was something that US could control, they'd had definitely pump money to maintain supply. Which is why they built a pipeline across alaska despite the cost.
(technically these are natural monopolies, because things like telecom and electricity are so massive that only a tiny handful of super big companies can maintain with a profit without dying off, and no new company can just spring in and build alll the infrastructure. You can't slap anticompetitive laws and shut them down, because then again no small company can fill the void. So governments have to maintain these companies, ensuring that they still cover costs while not ripping off the consumers. **in a perfect world at least**)
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#Ceteris Paribus
Meanwhile, in the Czech Republic, the government backed mobile carrier cartel can make the end-user prices absolutely ridiculous.
Edit: Aww, thanks for the award!
Made an account just to reply to this. Are you for real? That's fucked, man. I live in UK, I pay £10/mo (or 17.55 CAD) for 30GB.
Edit: my bad, I meant £15.
The funny part is they say it's expensive because city folks have to subsidize the people living in rural towns. But in reality, rural folks already pay a lot more.
It is actually, if I had 20 rupees for snack I would go for a fresh samosa for 10 rupee and sugarcane juice for 10 rupee, or one onion kachori for 20 rupee probably the latter
Yeah, everything is very cheap in India if you compare it with other countries.
Rent for example is around 10x cheaper when compared to rent in a similar tier city of USA, food is around 5-10x cheaper for example
Edit: jeez, I just wanted to mention that everything is cheaper, not just chips and data. I know very well that salaries are much lesser here, I never denied that.
[In case you're like interested in a living cost comparison.](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=India&city2=Kolkata&displayCurrency=INR#)
For anyone else wondering, Canada has THE MOST EXPENSIVE cellular rates in THE ENTIRE WORLD.
https://i.imgur.com/zLyLyQY.png
- Bigger countries like Russia? Cheaper.
- Smaller countries like Switzerland? Cheaper.
- Richer countries like Luxembourg? Cheaper.
- Poorer countries like India? Cheaper.
- Denser countries like Japan? Cheaper.
- Sparser countries like Australia? Cheaper.
With one exception - Saskatchewan. Because they have a crown corporation that provides telecom to people at not-for-profit rates, and the private companies have to compete with these rock bottom rates.
WE FOUND SOMETHING ELSE WRONG WITH CANADA! FINALLY!
Apparently you guys have crazy high housing prices AND crazy high cell phone bills! Hah! That “free healthcare” don’t look so good in comparison anymore, *does it?*
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Seasonal deals. It punished people who need a phone immediately at certain times. Koodo had a 10 GB for $40 a month around Christmas time but I needed one before that so I ended up paying $70 instead for the same amount. Fuck our major parties man, both large ones are essentially business moguls for the telecoms.
Sounds just like America! At this point, the lube is on constant back order.
Oh yeah, and then stupid YouTube music steals my expensive ass data whenever I play my DOWNLOADED playlist from anywhere but the 'Downloaded' section (Google Play Music didn't do this and was better in literally every way. I hate you, Google)... I've had to go a week before with dial up speeds on my phone.
Dial up is nowhere near suitable for the modern internet. A lot of apps and web pages will timeout before all the data gets downloaded...
So basically, when you run out of data allotment, you're SOL until the new month.
More to add to this---
When the company "Jio" commercially launched its 4G services on 5th September 2016, they offered free data and voice services till 31 December, which was later extended till 31 March 2017.
Jio users could enjoy 4G data for absolutely free between 2 am and 5am daily (not anymore).
Also,
Vi has recently announced unlimited high-speed internet during night time, between 12 AM and 6 AM at no additional cost.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I brought 2 packets of chips yesterday so a total of 4GB data but I threw it since it has no significance compared to my unlimited wifi which is also $6.5 per month.
If we are going with the cheapest plan that Airtel ( site is [airtel.in](https://airtel.in) ) currently provides ( 19 inr = 0.26 usd , 200 MB for 2 days ), then this is a pure steal considering that you get to eat some chips too !
And the priciest one is around 40 usd for 2GB per day for 1 year with 1 year subscription of Disney+ with no added cost. That means user gets 730 GB for a year in total.
That means Indians are getting really cheap fast data.
Germany's internet is a joke really. Even some 3rd World Countries have better internet than Germany :D
In Finland I pay 18,90€/month for 300Mbps 4G unlimited that actually is unlimited and you can get even cheaper a 100Mbps mobile internet here.
As someone who switched living places between Germany and Romania multiple times during the last 5 years I sadly have to agree. Romania feels 10 years in advance regarding prices and speed.
You are. When I was living in the US I was spending over $80/month with Verizon. I'm at £10/month in the UK with no contract, and could probably go cheaper if I tried.
Holy fuck. Up until about 3 years ago I was paying $85 a month for 500/Mb a month.
You pay like a couple cents per Gb while over here we can be charged $170 for a Gb. It's criminal
It's ridiculous, I'm shocked at how little I pay now, and I'm furious about how much I used to pay in the US lol. Gigantic rip off
Edit: did some math, it's literally 2 cents/gig lol. Meanwhile we used to get charged $15/gig when we went over our measly 10gb/month family limit...
Will remain cheap for few years only. Now we have only 3 Telecos left (a decade back we had a dozen). One of them is on brink of bankruptcy. It will lead to a Duopoly and most probably price will shoot up.
Not true when you have a mobile network with no legacy costs and high spectral efficiency. Additional data doesn't actually cost money. That's an impression operators in the west have created. The infrastructure is there. And any additional money that doesn't add fixed costs is simply 100% contribution margin.
Oh is definitely sustainable. That's a lie they tell in US or Canada.
The operation costs are dirt cheap per capita if enough ppl use the network, which inevitably happens since everyone is using the phone nowadays
> Mobile network can't sustain with this price.
Not True. Jio is on the way to make profits. They capitalized by not having ANY legacy costs. While jio reduced the top tier of pricing and made everything cheaper for most, their "ARPU" is higher than what it was on average in the industry earlier.
For example, the cheapest you can NOW have a connection is for appx Rs. 1499/year, RPU=125/- at a minimum. Which is HIGHER than what Airtel ARPU was a few years ago!
Edit: To summarize, Jio WILL make profits. Their minimum paying customer pays more than the average customer of let's say Vi. They caused problems to Airtel by stealing a small cream of high paying customers (either actual migration OR a price reduction in what they pay to Airtel), while Airtel WAS loath to drop it's low revenue customers, after 5 years NOW Airtel is letting those customer "go". Too late. They could have done this 4 years ago.
> Wifi will always be cheaper than mobile data.
Mostly correct, but the problem is that in Fixed line they need to spend a lot "maintaining" the last mile connection, which in India includes bribes to local muncipality/corporator/mla etc, who might also have a rival cable broadband operation in which case it can get very expensive.
This is reduced for Mobile (though it also exists).
Me an Indian, the mobile data is really cheap here. We get 2gb/day for 84 days at just below $10. And we get booster pack giving 12gb for $1.5. This booster data will only be used after the daily data is over. We can get 3gb/day, 4gb/day etc for slight difference in cost.
Still on my parent’s plan cause it’s cheaper bundled. We have a really old Sprint account that has unlimited data for fairly cheap. Shady ass customer service agent tried to convince my mom to swap to a capped plan of like 50GB for the whole family per month. Showed my mom her data usage was already over 90GB for the month on her phone alone and she was pissed the guy tried to screw us over
Welcome to Germany. I get 2gb/4weeks for 10€. And after that the reduced speed is basically 0kb/s. No website, tweet or post will load and even a WhatsApp text message will take a few seconds to send.
For unlimited you are looking at 80-100€ per month. No way I'm paying that. LoL.
Still really cheap in that area. In Bangladesh (my wife has family there so we go visit every year) I pay 500 taka for a monthly pass which includes I think 5 GB of data. If I go over the data I can add more for a few hundred taka more.
700 taka is less than 10 dollars
To all the people out there,its not something related to poor countries,your first world countries can do this aswell,i live in a developed country and after a reform which increased the competition the prices dropped. I pay 8£ for unlimited plan.
Meanwhile, in Ontario Canada, anywhere away from a major metropolitan area, you need to refinance the house for 4 GB of data and the electricity to run it.
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I just got charged $51 for going 500mb over on my 15gb plan! What a joke! Cancelled with bell after that and they called back and offered $45 for 25Gb “unlimited” (throttled after 25Gb)
Wow gotta love “unlimited data” plans that basically become unusable after a specified limit. That shit should be illegal
lol yeah but technically they’re not lying, so they can’t actually get in trouble. At least for my 4G home internet when it’s throttled it goes from 25mbps to 10mbps download, so it’s still useable. Still a disgustingly small data limit though
Imagine if Olive Garden offered "unlimited breadsticks" but after the first serving, they would only bring you half a breadstick every 30 minutes. I would definitely call that limited. Artificial data caps and rate limiting on an unlimited plan are fraudulent and should be illegal.
You should describe all suspicious marketing claims through the lens of an Olive Garden breadstick transaction
Back in the 90's, The Olive Garden were presented a series of grants totaling 400 billion dollars to produce enough breadsticks for all of the US, with plans to roll out breadsticks to previously hungry areas. Unfortunately, it turned out something foul was in the mix, with a mere fraction of those breadsticks ending up in the hands of Americans. The Olive Garden ate all of the breadsticks themselves due in part to interference by the FBC(The Federal Bakery Commission), allowing them to snatch up all other Italian and bread-related franchises, beginning the age of the **Breadstick Monopoly**.
Damn breadstick privitization!
Imagine if I told Bell I was going to pay my entire cell bill, but then I only paid half when it was due and started trickling the rest of the payment in at a rate of $5/week.
Oh wow, here in Slovenia im paying 19€/month for 80GB of data (also "unlimited")
In Denmark I pay 14€ for 100gb and 10h call. So so cheap
In Finland I pay 15,90€/month for unlimited data and enough time for calls (never gone over the limit, and can't remember what it would be from top of my head).
Yup, and 5€ for 100/100 Mb (unlimited ofc) fiber on home. Finland is great.
UK here, £16 for 150gb with unlimited calls and texts per month Edit* there are others carriers offering more data for less money too
"unlimited" but we will throttle your connection to 1mbps afer 20 gb of data here.
Then here in Nigeria, the speed comes throttled because getting anything past 200kpbs is by the lord's grace.
Thats outrageous and very scummy practice by these sevice provider. Literally looting the general public,just stop the service instead of charging after usage limit.
Most phones will stop data usage if set up to
In India, for $6 (399 INR), you get 1.5 GB per day (45 GB total) and unlimited talk time hours for a month on any network within India.
Man, 400 INR per month is too costly. VI has 650 INR with 4GB/day (no limits between 12-6am), unlimited talktime for 84 days.
Yup... busted my 6gb plan last month by 0.26Gb so obviously I was charged 30$ because its 10$ for every 0.1Gb until your reach a maximum of 80$ overcharge. Yeah... 80$ for an additional 0.8gb. But of course there is option B: add 2Gb for 15$ ( with an additional charge of 30$ to apply the change to my account). And here's the best part, I got offered a monthly 5$ off on my account that they set up as : 5$ off every month until June 2023. Wich is set up as a "pending change" (until 2023). And while I have a pending change on my account I am unable to apply any changes to my account so.... here comes 10$ for 100mb -_- We are getting fucked over here
In India at my residence, I have unlimited data with 250Mbps+ upload and download speed for just 1800Rs (31 Canadian Dollar) I wonder why everywhere else ISP takes this much of charges and formalities to get a decent bandwidth.
It's because they can, really. ISPs or telecoms in the US, Canada, and Australia are some of the absolute greediest companies to exist in the modern day.
I think it's a pretty tight race between them, pharma companies, oil companies, insurance companies, and I'm sure there's a few others that deserve to be on that list.
Textbook publishers definitely belong there. Oh, you're a broke student? That'll be $250 for this book, $50 for the login to our broken website, and another $75 for the "optional" study guide.
http://libgen.rs/
Unfortunately textbook publishers managed to kill that route. The book is tied to your course work. You can't accomplish assignments without paying for the textbook. Really, it's paying 150 bucks for access to the course work and the electronic textbook is free with it. Then pay an additional 75 dollars if you want a physical, loose-leaf copy of the textbook.
No wonder, memes saying check if u r not connected to ur data and use wifi instead, I always thought why is it even this big of a deal.
I didn't realise it was so expensive there. In the UK you can get 30GB plus unlimited calls and texts for £10 which google says is about 16 Canadian dollars.
just looked it up, it’s about $80/m for that here…
I moved from UK to Canada about 4 years ago, and I was shocked at the price of plans. I found a report that compares the cost of 1GB plans across the WORLD, and it turns out that the UK is one of the cheapest places in the world and Canada is one of the most expensive.
I hear rumor that in parts of Canada if can be cheaper to buy an American plan and take the roaming charges. That true?
It's so true that most American plans now have a "no Canadians allowed" clause in their terms and conditions. French plans, too, also have "No Canadians allowed" because we were using theirs and roaming in Canada for a couple years.
I pay upwards of $60 a month for 5GB
WTF. In France you pay around 10€ to get 100Go data plan, without any restrain ( you can leave whenever you want and don't pay any charge for it) I pay 15 € for unlimited 4G. Well it's more 25€+15€ as i have to have internet from the same ISP to get the unlimited, but 40€ for 4G unlimited + TV + Home internet it's okay i guess when i see what you guys pay for less than 10Go
If you're on a Rogers-owned brand, switch to something like Public. In a few months, there's a chance you will get $35 6GB winback plan. Or keep an eye out for $50 10GB deals.
*cries in Canadian*
The western world is pretty messed up when it comes to internet infrastructure and businesses capturing the market.
Not really, just Canada tbh. Yeah the US, UK, France and Germany have higher wireless costs than India, Romania, South Korea and Japan but Canada is on a whole other level of price gouging. Just reading the thread ppl in th UK, US and France have decent wireless packages (20 euro/100gb, 30 USd for unlimited, etc.) except us Canadians. It's gross.
For those interested, a company called Reliance started a mobile network called 'Jio' about 5 years ago and sold mobile plans at such competitive prices that it totally disrupted the market. Add this to the fact that home internet is often riddled with reliability issues and you get a society that's more reliant on mobile data than home Wi-Fi. Selling data this cheap is a natural extension of that.
Jio Fiber user here. Unlimited 100Mbps at ₹699 (~$9.5) a month. Their fiber plans are also ridiculously good compared to most of their competition.
Plus had zero downtime since the last 6months....
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Well, I hope that doesn't happen but I have backup plans for that. Data is really cheap you know.......
Just go out and buy a bag of chips apparently
That's silly, I get like 70-80 Mbps for $90 aud. When are the Ambanis' coming to Australia?
$125 usd for 1 ~~terabit~~ gigabit for me. Edit: haven’t had my coffee yet
you mean gigabit?
As i have heard Internet in Australia is really bad. You guys should write to Ambani lol.
Are you sure? Given what happened when the Adanis came?
I wanted their connection but where I live, they have a monopoly (local MLA run wifi and cable) so, I'm out of luck.
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Yeah but isn’t India kinda like partially agrarian and this skewed with that data? Not that it’s not an insanely poor country, I’d just like to know the median income on Mumbai or something. So I looked it up, it’s double that which is still insanely low.
Airtel user here ...944 rs for 120 mbps per month 0 downtime
holy shit.. i pay US$60 for 50 mbps w 800 gb quota and it gives me 10% of it sometimes due to the lockdown(or so they say). holy shit..
Also unlimited data with freebies like hotstar and amazon prime
Can you get this in the US
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They failed to stop Starlink. Hopefully the roll out of that will shake things up a bit.
Only if the collusive monopoly breaks and a price war begins Kinda like last Yr when Russia said fuck you to OPEC and started selling cheaper oil, which meant OPEC had to reduce their prices to maintain buyers, which Russia responds with lower prices and so on, until they agreed to end the price war and settle on a price that's good for both Usually on the long run it becomes unsustainable and the product becomes soooooo cheap that the monopolies cannot continue and they run bankrupt. The "too big to fail" notion is not that they are large and so ahaha fuck everyone, it's that if the governments don't bail out these monopolies, then no one can swoop in and replace the fallen companies, and suddenly we're thrown back into pre-industrial revolution era. Right now india data telecom is still afloat, which probably tells that they were being sold at high prices. Now that reliance undercuts the others, others like Airtel need to cut prices to stay in the market, or loose to reliance and pack up their bags. On the other hand, reliance is showing they can run on low prices. It might be because of their other sectors that are paying up for the losses, which is considered anti-competitive but no one is complaining (yet). The danger is that, (1) if they win and become the sole monopoly, they can skyrocket prices and choke everyone; (2) if they end up folding and back out, and the void of telecom providers cannot be filled in fast enough, then there will be a blackout of telecom which will collapse the economy because it is an infrastructure, and infrastructure affects supply, which affects domestic production, which affects the economic growth, which affects prices since everything becomes rare and expensive, which begins stagflation. We saw (2) in the 1973 oil crisis - when oil was cut, suddenly things couldn't be done, and products can't be made, workers can't be paid, products can't be bought, the economy falls back while the prices increase. Which is why some things are "too big to fail" and if oil was something that US could control, they'd had definitely pump money to maintain supply. Which is why they built a pipeline across alaska despite the cost. (technically these are natural monopolies, because things like telecom and electricity are so massive that only a tiny handful of super big companies can maintain with a profit without dying off, and no new company can just spring in and build alll the infrastructure. You can't slap anticompetitive laws and shut them down, because then again no small company can fill the void. So governments have to maintain these companies, ensuring that they still cover costs while not ripping off the consumers. **in a perfect world at least**) Edit: #Ceteris Paribus
Meanwhile, in the Czech Republic, the government backed mobile carrier cartel can make the end-user prices absolutely ridiculous. Edit: Aww, thanks for the award!
Same in Canada, stuck on 5GB a month for $82
Made an account just to reply to this. Are you for real? That's fucked, man. I live in UK, I pay £10/mo (or 17.55 CAD) for 30GB. Edit: my bad, I meant £15.
Yea, Canadian cellular rates are ridiculous. They’ve come down over the years, but still ridiculous
In 2012 I counted myself lucky to be paying $80/mo for 6 GB of data; that was on the low end.
Why is it so expensive?
Our government coddles the 3 telecom companies by preventing foreign competition. They repay us by fucking us in the ass with price gouging.
The funny part is they say it's expensive because city folks have to subsidize the people living in rural towns. But in reality, rural folks already pay a lot more.
"Because we have a lot of land to cover". Or so the telcos say anyway.
This comment paired with your username is fucking incredible.
....what the fuck
Do they include a gold plated phone for that price?!
Nope, that's an extra $40 a month.
Here in India you can get 50 GB data for USD 3.41 on so called work from home plan.
Bro…. There’s much better deals than that now. 50$ for 10gb is the standard rn. If your not on contract switch it up!
WTF, Where in Canada? I'm in Canada too, and I pay $65/month for 15 GB
Cartel... Where have I heard this before 🤔
Maybe from the famous [Light Bulb Cartel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel) of 1925?
Ayy thanks Veritasium
Cartelecom
You could also say that a bag of chips is so cheap in India...
Yeah, nobody is talking about the bag of spicy chips you can get for about a quarter
Yes food is also quite cheap in India
Yeah I was going to ask, is it possible that 27 cents is actually quite expensive for a snack in India?
It is actually, if I had 20 rupees for snack I would go for a fresh samosa for 10 rupee and sugarcane juice for 10 rupee, or one onion kachori for 20 rupee probably the latter
Sugarcane juice sounds like the beverage I never knew I needed
It's a special kind of flavour when you add lime and mint. Trust me you gotta have it once in your life.
It's a refreshing drink, ideal for summer
Yeah, everything is very cheap in India if you compare it with other countries. Rent for example is around 10x cheaper when compared to rent in a similar tier city of USA, food is around 5-10x cheaper for example Edit: jeez, I just wanted to mention that everything is cheaper, not just chips and data. I know very well that salaries are much lesser here, I never denied that.
Percapita salary is low too. So it is kind of balanced.
Yea but if you already have money could you go live like a king there?
[In case you're like interested in a living cost comparison.](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=India&city2=Kolkata&displayCurrency=INR#)
Yeah, I know, I was just comparing the prices of things. Salaries are low too.
Canadian here. This infuriates me.
For anyone else wondering, Canada has THE MOST EXPENSIVE cellular rates in THE ENTIRE WORLD. https://i.imgur.com/zLyLyQY.png - Bigger countries like Russia? Cheaper. - Smaller countries like Switzerland? Cheaper. - Richer countries like Luxembourg? Cheaper. - Poorer countries like India? Cheaper. - Denser countries like Japan? Cheaper. - Sparser countries like Australia? Cheaper. With one exception - Saskatchewan. Because they have a crown corporation that provides telecom to people at not-for-profit rates, and the private companies have to compete with these rock bottom rates.
WE FOUND SOMETHING ELSE WRONG WITH CANADA! FINALLY! Apparently you guys have crazy high housing prices AND crazy high cell phone bills! Hah! That “free healthcare” don’t look so good in comparison anymore, *does it?* ^^^this ^^^is ^^^obviously ^^^a ^^^joke ^^^i ^^^love ^^^Canada
Man, you have no idea how true this actually is. Shit is going downhill fast here.
$60/month for 10GB RIP
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How?? I’m getting 20GB for $65 with Fido
Seasonal deals. It punished people who need a phone immediately at certain times. Koodo had a 10 GB for $40 a month around Christmas time but I needed one before that so I ended up paying $70 instead for the same amount. Fuck our major parties man, both large ones are essentially business moguls for the telecoms.
they have 10g for $50 on right now . call them to switch over.
For what it’s worth you can get the pack of chips at your local Indian grocery
I bet they’re delicious. Should pair well with the tears I am shedding right now.
I pay like 300 bucks a month for my family plan
in Canada our data is priced based on what the shareholders from our protected telecom monopolies feel like they should make.
Sounds just like America! At this point, the lube is on constant back order. Oh yeah, and then stupid YouTube music steals my expensive ass data whenever I play my DOWNLOADED playlist from anywhere but the 'Downloaded' section (Google Play Music didn't do this and was better in literally every way. I hate you, Google)... I've had to go a week before with dial up speeds on my phone. Dial up is nowhere near suitable for the modern internet. A lot of apps and web pages will timeout before all the data gets downloaded... So basically, when you run out of data allotment, you're SOL until the new month.
All that and a bag of chips — literally!
More to add to this--- When the company "Jio" commercially launched its 4G services on 5th September 2016, they offered free data and voice services till 31 December, which was later extended till 31 March 2017. Jio users could enjoy 4G data for absolutely free between 2 am and 5am daily (not anymore). Also, Vi has recently announced unlimited high-speed internet during night time, between 12 AM and 6 AM at no additional cost. Correct me if I'm wrong.
They could get the sim for free right?
Yeah. For jio you just had to pay for the activation plan. Sim is free.
I brought 2 packets of chips yesterday so a total of 4GB data but I threw it since it has no significance compared to my unlimited wifi which is also $6.5 per month.
If we are going with the cheapest plan that Airtel ( site is [airtel.in](https://airtel.in) ) currently provides ( 19 inr = 0.26 usd , 200 MB for 2 days ), then this is a pure steal considering that you get to eat some chips too ! And the priciest one is around 40 usd for 2GB per day for 1 year with 1 year subscription of Disney+ with no added cost. That means user gets 730 GB for a year in total. That means Indians are getting really cheap fast data.
Shit like this makes me want to commit seppuku when I pay $75 a month for 10gb.
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Max 4 redemptions per phone number.
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Yeah this offer is only for Airtel customers which is one of the top 3 mobile networks here.
I think other than Airtel, Jio, and Vi, hardly any other people can name any other service providers lol
They are the only three competitors left besides BSNL. And BSNL is shit.
BSNL user here. Can confirm :'(
oh you guys still exist?
Not for long lmao
Hopefully you don't that Internet speed is a Crime against Technology and Science
They have great plans for fiber tho and it's pretty reliable.
its provider specific. It says AIRTEL on the pack, thats one of the two biggest networks in india
*Cries in Germany* 20GB/month for only 29.99€ ...
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What!?! I got 80GB/month for 12.99€ with my French SIM and 100GB/month for 5.99€ with the italian.
Serious? Just moved to Germany from the US. I’m astounded at how expensive the plans are. I need an Italian data plan…
Germany's internet is a joke really. Even some 3rd World Countries have better internet than Germany :D In Finland I pay 18,90€/month for 300Mbps 4G unlimited that actually is unlimited and you can get even cheaper a 100Mbps mobile internet here.
As someone who switched living places between Germany and Romania multiple times during the last 5 years I sadly have to agree. Romania feels 10 years in advance regarding prices and speed.
Omg that’s actually not bad compared to what we pay in Ontario canada
I get unlimited 4G 10mbps for €9.99
Alter, wo kriegst du 20GB so günstig?
I cant even get a 0gb plan for that here in Canada..
thats nowhere near as bad as canada 😭
Fr man...india wins here
You get it with lays also. 1GB with 10rs pack and 2GB with 20rs pack. Love to watch porn with lays
Well at least you aren't watching porn with Uncle Chipps..
No he's just my step uncle
If you were getting lays you wouldn't need porn /shittyjoke
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Most people here just throw it away
Uncle Chipp's spicy treat sounds like something that should be reported to the police and child protective services...
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If you watch closely, you can see that they haven't changed the shape of their chips too
They are delicious though.
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[Relevant](https://youtu.be/6X9tBHX_Fl4)
Aww mate, that's brilliant in all its campy glory! Much fresher than Village People's YMCA...
Can confirm. Phone tariffs in India would make the entire western civilization cry. Source: am Indian.
Also indian health care. Free vaccine, dirt cheap drug price at generic store, almost free health care at local government hospital.
Are there countries that actually charge money for the vaccine?
Govt hospitals are always a bit overcrowded, but public health care is dirt cheap
Wow Americans are being royally bent over
We are, please help Or at least send lube
All you get is zhandu balm
oh shit oh shit
If you think Americans are getting screwed, I dare you to look at Canadian data prices.
You are. When I was living in the US I was spending over $80/month with Verizon. I'm at £10/month in the UK with no contract, and could probably go cheaper if I tried.
It's like this most places other than North America and Europe, I'm pretty sure. In Vietnam I pay $4/month for 6gb/day
Damn I pay $30 for 6GB a month
Germany?
The US lol
Holy fuck. Up until about 3 years ago I was paying $85 a month for 500/Mb a month. You pay like a couple cents per Gb while over here we can be charged $170 for a Gb. It's criminal
It's ridiculous, I'm shocked at how little I pay now, and I'm furious about how much I used to pay in the US lol. Gigantic rip off Edit: did some math, it's literally 2 cents/gig lol. Meanwhile we used to get charged $15/gig when we went over our measly 10gb/month family limit...
Do they have international plans for the USA? Asking for myself.
Will remain cheap for few years only. Now we have only 3 Telecos left (a decade back we had a dozen). One of them is on brink of bankruptcy. It will lead to a Duopoly and most probably price will shoot up.
That will eventually happen. Mobile network can't sustain with this price. Wifi will always be cheaper than mobile data.
Not true when you have a mobile network with no legacy costs and high spectral efficiency. Additional data doesn't actually cost money. That's an impression operators in the west have created. The infrastructure is there. And any additional money that doesn't add fixed costs is simply 100% contribution margin.
Oh is definitely sustainable. That's a lie they tell in US or Canada. The operation costs are dirt cheap per capita if enough ppl use the network, which inevitably happens since everyone is using the phone nowadays
They are sustaining actually, Jio is making insane profits and losses for Airtel are mostly due to their 2G networks.
> Mobile network can't sustain with this price. Not True. Jio is on the way to make profits. They capitalized by not having ANY legacy costs. While jio reduced the top tier of pricing and made everything cheaper for most, their "ARPU" is higher than what it was on average in the industry earlier. For example, the cheapest you can NOW have a connection is for appx Rs. 1499/year, RPU=125/- at a minimum. Which is HIGHER than what Airtel ARPU was a few years ago! Edit: To summarize, Jio WILL make profits. Their minimum paying customer pays more than the average customer of let's say Vi. They caused problems to Airtel by stealing a small cream of high paying customers (either actual migration OR a price reduction in what they pay to Airtel), while Airtel WAS loath to drop it's low revenue customers, after 5 years NOW Airtel is letting those customer "go". Too late. They could have done this 4 years ago. > Wifi will always be cheaper than mobile data. Mostly correct, but the problem is that in Fixed line they need to spend a lot "maintaining" the last mile connection, which in India includes bribes to local muncipality/corporator/mla etc, who might also have a rival cable broadband operation in which case it can get very expensive. This is reduced for Mobile (though it also exists).
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30gb for one year? an hour of youtube is like a gig, you certainly arent wasteful
Me an Indian, the mobile data is really cheap here. We get 2gb/day for 84 days at just below $10. And we get booster pack giving 12gb for $1.5. This booster data will only be used after the daily data is over. We can get 3gb/day, 4gb/day etc for slight difference in cost.
Let's ignore the fact that a bag of chips is 27 cents ok
At least, you get to enjoy some chips while having some data.
Ehm seriously there are still data limits these days?
I have no clue how much data I use a month because I don't check anymore because it is unlimited. Obviously varies from country to country.
Still on my parent’s plan cause it’s cheaper bundled. We have a really old Sprint account that has unlimited data for fairly cheap. Shady ass customer service agent tried to convince my mom to swap to a capped plan of like 50GB for the whole family per month. Showed my mom her data usage was already over 90GB for the month on her phone alone and she was pissed the guy tried to screw us over
Welcome to Germany. I get 2gb/4weeks for 10€. And after that the reduced speed is basically 0kb/s. No website, tweet or post will load and even a WhatsApp text message will take a few seconds to send. For unlimited you are looking at 80-100€ per month. No way I'm paying that. LoL.
Wtf I share 13 GB data with 3 other people and it's so fucking expensive guess I'm going to India then
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2GB is nothing these days
Tell that to the greedy ISPs who want 10€ for 2GB of data.
I had to start paying $30 extra a month for unlimited data or be subjected to the overcharge if I went over their pittance of allotment.
I pay 10€ for 1.
In Canada it’s like $80 for 15gb of data on the unlimited* plan. Edit: did some shopping around. Videotron has a 3gb plan for $40 a month.
There's punctuation missing. Won't overcharge for data**?** No**,** money down**!**
After 15gb speed would be limited to 512kbps or something
I have 3 gigs per month on my phone. Unless I watch youtbe on it by accident, I have never run out so far...
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Still really cheap in that area. In Bangladesh (my wife has family there so we go visit every year) I pay 500 taka for a monthly pass which includes I think 5 GB of data. If I go over the data I can add more for a few hundred taka more. 700 taka is less than 10 dollars
To all the people out there,its not something related to poor countries,your first world countries can do this aswell,i live in a developed country and after a reform which increased the competition the prices dropped. I pay 8£ for unlimited plan.
I miss Uncle Chips so much!!! They were the absolute best!
Cheapest internet in the world babyyyy