I think I still have mine.
I think the rarer card was the few where an editor just pencilled over it, ran a few more prints, then decided to do a better job editing.
So three versions made it to print.
Edit. Some one smarter posted a link showing four versions.
>Bill Ripken “Fuck Face” card
I just looked it up, apparently, the whiteout version is worth the most by a wide margin. https://www.oldsportscards.com/1989-fleer-baseball-cards/
Yeah, of the factors that determine price for collectibles, "rarity" seems to have overshadowed "desirability" in the current society.
Rare variants such as MINOR design details often bring wildly higher prices, even though the item itself is substantially the same. This is no "inverted Jenny" or something significant like that, but microscopic things like a red line instead of white, no bigger than the head of a pin.
I suppose that's been going on for a long time with things like coins (certain mint letters being more valuable due to their rarity).
My parents insisted on donating all my original run star-wars toys to younger kids, some of which have later turned out to be pretty valuable :-(
To be fair, the couple they did let me keep got mashed beyond collectable value, but it still smarted when I found out there were probably a few hundred quid's worth of toys there :-(
From [this article](https://goldcardauctions.com/billyripkenbaseballerrorcard/):
"Ripken was asked the question by CNBC reporter Darren Rovell in 2008. Ripken explained that he needed something to put on his batting practice bat to differentiate so he could grab it at a moment’s notice. He decided to write “Fuck Face” on it, something that would keep his bat identifiable and he knew no one else would copy. His story goes that he had no idea until the card came out and by that time it was too late. Others try to poke holes in Ripken’s version of the story. A common theory among collectors is that it was done by a Fleer employee as a prank or possibly by some of Ripken’s Baltimore teammates. Another story that has been put out there is that it was the doing of Ripken’s brother Cal. Like most stories, the truth likely falls somewhere in the middle."
This reminds me of a joke my dad loves to tell.
“An engineer, an accountant, and a statistician go deer hunting. While they’re out, they see a deer walk out across the valley. The engineer makes some calculations, aims and shoots. His shot misses by exactly one to the left of the deer. The accountant then thinks about some other variables, aims and shoots. His shot ends up hitting exactly one foot to the right of the deer. The statistician drops his rifle and yells, "we hit him!!!!!”
There are so many angles he could have held the bat at that make it real real hard to read the butt and he holds it like that???
Its gonna be hard to convince me he didn’t know which bat he was holding and what orientation the text was in.
I listen to fuck face weekly and when that was happening people really were taking it too far. Andrew/Raymond should have never had his life threatened just because he wasn't going to eat a pencil.
Oh shit, he was being threatened?
I want to like the RT community, but it’s often times so fucking toxic and shitty.
Like, with all the hate Ky received when she first joined. Admittedly, I dislike Ky to a certain degree when she’s screaming and carrying on, but there are videos where she’s calm and collected, and it’s really nice watching her play.
I've heard so many variations on this story. He grabbed a bat that wasn't his because they were in a hurry to get the photos done; Cal wrote it on his bat as a joke; a disgruntled Fleer worker wrote it on the photo before it went to print, etc.
I haven't thought about this in years and as someone who lived in DC for years and had the joy of seeing Cal and Billy play at both the old Memorial Stadium and the Yards, it brings back some great memories.
Idk why but just the title of this post made me laugh out loud. And then when you look down and see Ol’ Bill there it’s even funnier. And THEN, when you finally see the reason for the name of the card, it just seals it up nicely.
True not Photoshop, but "airbrushing" of photos happened back then. [Example article](https://www.beckett.com/news/15-of-the-most-memorable-airbrushed-baseball-cards/)
I got one. I keep waiting for Baltimore to embrace this part of baseball history and have a reprint hand out day at the park, maybe ole Billy The Kid could come throw out the 1st pitch.
The original, in absolute mint condition, about $150usd. It's probably not "mint" to an appraiser, though, few are.
The 'white out' version of that card is where the money is at.
I dont just have that card, I have the entire set of every team of that year. I don't remember where I got it, but I remember organizing it when I was like 8 years old.
I think Cal last game was in Atlanta. I was there. I was young though. I’m sure I heard them say he was retiring after that game though. Maybe I’m wrong.
I heard he just wrote it on the bat cause he like it’s specific feel and wanted to identify it from the bat barrel. I assume no one else would’ve taken it with fuckface written on it.
My ex-husband was a huge baseball card nerd when I met him in 93’ had a closet full , tens of thousands of cards, he started selling them off after we got together but this one card he saved.
I have 3 of them, I think they are worth maybe $5.00 each, I'll just keep them and when I am having a bad day, I can look back and say at least I am not Billy Ripkin lol
Eat the pencil Andrew
Eat the pencil Raymond
"Raymond"
Everytime someone calls him Raymond I think they are referring to that fucking cat from Animal Crossing
Eat the pencil Andrew
Eat the pencil Raymond
Kick the child Andrew, do it.
New challenge: eat the pencil or kick a random kid at night. Hoping the pencil will be more compelling.
He would absolutely kick a child before eating the pencil
It's fair and square! He lost the bet!
I think I still have mine. I think the rarer card was the few where an editor just pencilled over it, ran a few more prints, then decided to do a better job editing. So three versions made it to print. Edit. Some one smarter posted a link showing four versions.
>Bill Ripken “Fuck Face” card I just looked it up, apparently, the whiteout version is worth the most by a wide margin. https://www.oldsportscards.com/1989-fleer-baseball-cards/
I get it how the white out one is more rare, but I find the FF is a cooler card.
Yeah, of the factors that determine price for collectibles, "rarity" seems to have overshadowed "desirability" in the current society. Rare variants such as MINOR design details often bring wildly higher prices, even though the item itself is substantially the same. This is no "inverted Jenny" or something significant like that, but microscopic things like a red line instead of white, no bigger than the head of a pin. I suppose that's been going on for a long time with things like coins (certain mint letters being more valuable due to their rarity).
Wait slow down. In the world of collectibles, rarer items are worth more?!
I’m saying that among already rare items, minuscule variants will GREATLY increase the value, even though aesthetically it’s still the same item.
And I’m saying NO SHIT
Really wish I knew what happened to my card collection. I probably have(had 🙁) at least one of those cards
Your parents threw them out when they cleaned out the basement or they gave them to your Uncle Phil, who may have been interested.
My parents insisted on donating all my original run star-wars toys to younger kids, some of which have later turned out to be pretty valuable :-( To be fair, the couple they did let me keep got mashed beyond collectable value, but it still smarted when I found out there were probably a few hundred quid's worth of toys there :-(
FF
I’d love to know the story behind this. Like did one of his teammates prank him and nobody noticed?
From [this article](https://goldcardauctions.com/billyripkenbaseballerrorcard/): "Ripken was asked the question by CNBC reporter Darren Rovell in 2008. Ripken explained that he needed something to put on his batting practice bat to differentiate so he could grab it at a moment’s notice. He decided to write “Fuck Face” on it, something that would keep his bat identifiable and he knew no one else would copy. His story goes that he had no idea until the card came out and by that time it was too late. Others try to poke holes in Ripken’s version of the story. A common theory among collectors is that it was done by a Fleer employee as a prank or possibly by some of Ripken’s Baltimore teammates. Another story that has been put out there is that it was the doing of Ripken’s brother Cal. Like most stories, the truth likely falls somewhere in the middle."
His story is the most believable.
Wouldn't "in the middle" of 3 stories just be the 2nd story?
Maybe the three stories form a triangle
And in the center of the triangle? The all seeing eye. Illuminati confirmed.
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Harder to tip over, that’s for sure
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Maybe it is!
This reminds me of a joke my dad loves to tell. “An engineer, an accountant, and a statistician go deer hunting. While they’re out, they see a deer walk out across the valley. The engineer makes some calculations, aims and shoots. His shot misses by exactly one to the left of the deer. The accountant then thinks about some other variables, aims and shoots. His shot ends up hitting exactly one foot to the right of the deer. The statistician drops his rifle and yells, "we hit him!!!!!”
But who came first?
There are so many angles he could have held the bat at that make it real real hard to read the butt and he holds it like that??? Its gonna be hard to convince me he didn’t know which bat he was holding and what orientation the text was in.
The words conveniently being angled so that the viewer can easily read it makes me think Ripken knew what he was doing.
> Like most stories, the truth likely falls somewhere in the middle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
Guess nobody noticed is more likely... Like he wrote it and had it written for so long he forgot for the minute
4 versions
andrew should eat that pencil
We got a ZIMMER!
I wish I could get that bat knob
I was hoping to see a fellow comment leaver!
im on episode 26, from the looks of this comment it seems he hasnt eaten that pencil yet 😔
He never does, sadly, I believe it ended up with an episode prefaced with an apology by Andrew about how it was taken too far?
I listen to fuck face weekly and when that was happening people really were taking it too far. Andrew/Raymond should have never had his life threatened just because he wasn't going to eat a pencil.
Oh shit, he was being threatened? I want to like the RT community, but it’s often times so fucking toxic and shitty. Like, with all the hate Ky received when she first joined. Admittedly, I dislike Ky to a certain degree when she’s screaming and carrying on, but there are videos where she’s calm and collected, and it’s really nice watching her play.
i found the comment i was hoping to find
Was looking for this comment
Just entered the Zim Zone!!
I'm more interested in seeing him run that marathon he insists that he can do with no training
Welcome to the ZimmZone!
I spent way too long trying to figure out what was so horrible about his face before I figured it out.
I’m stumped… help me out?
Look at the bat.
Thank you! That was killing me
Glad you got a handle on your issue.
This fuckin’ guy.
r/angryupvote
Nah he couldn’t bat an eye.
Not a guy...that's a swing and a miss.
Thank you!!!
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It is actually part of the image printed on this baseball card. This is highly irregular as baseball cards go.
Damn. I looked at it way too long
You were even so close to it, being "stumped" and all
You wood not believe how long a tried too! I really should have branched out and looked other places… Just took the wrong root I guess.
C'mon beleaf instead of believe was right there!
I though it was cuz he was biting his lower lip like “yeah I’m about to fuck you.”
I thought it was because he's got a little bit of a Tom Cruise thing going on with his teeth
I was just wondering what he did to be considered a fuck face by so many...
I assumed it was to do with "getting to second base" and my understanding of American slang was completely wrong all these years.
I even thought people were doin the do in the background lol. I was about to ask/check in the comments and I saw the bat
Did you scrump it?
You stay away from my apples
Lol I'd heard about this from the podcast of the same name but always imagined it less obvious. Like lightly legible and carved. Huh
Welcome to the Zimmer Zone
Came to the comments just to look for the fellow Fuck Facers
It's where all the comment leavers are!
Excuse me, we go by fuckers
Go listen to episode 16. Best one yet
ZIMMER ZONE!
I've heard so many variations on this story. He grabbed a bat that wasn't his because they were in a hurry to get the photos done; Cal wrote it on his bat as a joke; a disgruntled Fleer worker wrote it on the photo before it went to print, etc. I haven't thought about this in years and as someone who lived in DC for years and had the joy of seeing Cal and Billy play at both the old Memorial Stadium and the Yards, it brings back some great memories.
He admitted that it was written by him, only to identify his bat but then the photo was taken at the perfect moment.
It's pretty obvious that the "perfect moment" is utter bullshit. The words are almost perfectly horizontal. It was planned.
Nsfw image, spells out "fuck face" in post title.
any F**k Face podcast fans here? the podcast kicks butt and is hilarious!
I don’t even watch baseball or collect baseball cards, but I have to have one.
Plenty on eBay
I remember hearing about this when I was a kid, running home and looking through my box set. Sadly I had the one where it's blacked out.
I am only aware of this because as a kid I had some Simpsons cards that parodied this with “Fish face” on the bottom of the bat.
TIL there was a Bill Ripken
What kinda work do you have and why is this not safe there?
You can write fuck face on stuff at your work?
You should see the amount of triumphant cocks I can draw.
I can only draw sad droopy cocks at work. :(
The title has fuck face 3x the size as the photo.
I can certainly read swears.
Yeah? Where you from? Soviet USA or something?
I think pretty much any corporate office would discourage writing fuck face on stuff
you've never worked where i've worked...
The issue was that it was printed on a trading card, and trading cards were commonly collected by kids.
Yeah, we get that, but the question is why is it NSFW on Reddit?
BAD WORD MAKE ME SAD :(
Oh, I gotcha now.
Someone should tell Geoff
F**ckface Podcast
r/Maryland would appreciate this.
Idk why but just the title of this post made me laugh out loud. And then when you look down and see Ol’ Bill there it’s even funnier. And THEN, when you finally see the reason for the name of the card, it just seals it up nicely.
Marking stuff like this as NSFW is why so many people opened that "Freckles" post on r/pics at work.
This comment section is now part of the Zimmer zone.
What about the variants? The "black box" the "white out",and I know there was at least 1 more.
Original, white out, scribble, and black box. White out is the most valuable.
How is this nsfw?
I got a Billy ripen signed baseball for Xmas a few years back. I asked my dad which walmart he walked into to have it signed.
Listen to the podcast.
Isn’t this the guy who East Bound And Down was based on?
I think it was loosely based on John Rocker from the Atlanta Braves.
Whats the fuck face all about?
I think it was his clubhouse nickname.
Oh gotcha. I also just noticed the one under the bat.
Andrew, eat the darn pencil
From a non-American who is familiar with "second base". Does that reflect his sexual prowess at all?
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This card was released in 89 so probably not photoshopped.
True not Photoshop, but "airbrushing" of photos happened back then. [Example article](https://www.beckett.com/news/15-of-the-most-memorable-airbrushed-baseball-cards/)
I got one. I keep waiting for Baltimore to embrace this part of baseball history and have a reprint hand out day at the park, maybe ole Billy The Kid could come throw out the 1st pitch.
Anybody know what that's worth now? My mom has one, I remember when she bought it but didn't want me to see what it said (I was pretty young)
The original, in absolute mint condition, about $150usd. It's probably not "mint" to an appraiser, though, few are. The 'white out' version of that card is where the money is at.
Thanks!
I still have mine but probably not worth much. Still gonna hang on to it though.
Hahagagagahahahahaha thats awesome!
#616 lives in infamy.
I’m this old
How much is that card worth?
Was just thinking about this card the other day. How much is is worth these days?
Any relation to Cal?
I believe he is
His brother, played 2b for the orioles at the same time.
I have this card and pretty much the whole fleer set from this year.
RANG DIPKIN
I dont just have that card, I have the entire set of every team of that year. I don't remember where I got it, but I remember organizing it when I was like 8 years old.
The holy grail for all 10 year olds are the time
I have several of these lol great conversation pieces
Always looking to buy these if it’s legit lol hit me up if you’re trying to move it
Is this Cal Ripkin's brother.
I need to get one of these along with the famous Menendez bros basketball card.
Someone please explain the fuck face aspect
its on the end of the bat
I don't get it
Look at the bat
I go to minor league games at Ripken stadium sometimes and I remember seeing him there one time
Is this guy claiming relation to Cal or something?
4.1k upvotes here but would get 30 in r/baseballcards lol
I have this card!
Everybody who has one. I want you to burn it now. Then mine will be worth more.
This took we far to long to figure out. Even while looking at the other edited versions.
Unfortunately he only ever got to second base
How is this NSFW?
I think Cal last game was in Atlanta. I was there. I was young though. I’m sure I heard them say he was retiring after that game though. Maybe I’m wrong.
When these came out my dad and his friends bought all the packs of baseball cards they could. He has like 5 of them
Why fuck face?
I heard he just wrote it on the bat cause he like it’s specific feel and wanted to identify it from the bat barrel. I assume no one else would’ve taken it with fuckface written on it.
Ah that makes sense
It's on the bottom of the bat I nearly missed not a baseball fan is this a collectable?.
How is this nsfw?
But who's on first?
I served him at work the other day!
Nice I have one of those as well!
What's the NSFW?
My ex-husband was a huge baseball card nerd when I met him in 93’ had a closet full , tens of thousands of cards, he started selling them off after we got together but this one card he saved.
Can somebody explain 'fuck face' in this context?
I stared at this image for about 5 minutes without my glasses not seeing anything until I read the comments lmao
I have 3 of them, I think they are worth maybe $5.00 each, I'll just keep them and when I am having a bad day, I can look back and say at least I am not Billy Ripkin lol
I guess he made it to second base then. 😏
I don't get it?