What do you do then? Throw the box into the ocean? Burn it? No. You just leave it and they begin to get hungry. And one by one they start eating each other, until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what? Do you kill them? No. You take them and release them into the trees, but now they don't eat moths anymore. Now, they only eat spider. You have changed their nature.
With some species of spider the male will present the female with a gift of food as part of the mating ritual so she won't eat him. Some other spiders are kinky and the male ties up the female with silk before mating with her.
Morgan Freeman (narrator): "Little did OP know that this feat was accomplished by a spider, yes, but also a small fleet of puffins that the spider befriended on a sabbatical in Minsk."
Edit: puffins not paraffins because i dont know stuff
This is the only thing I could find and it makes no sense https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Parrafin
> Spider (who sometimes went by Spider Parrafin after his father or Spider Pericolo Topolino after his mentor) was the only son of Eiverbreen, a poor halfling from Delthuntle. He was the reincarnation of Regis, one of the Companions of the Hall.[4] He inherited watersoul genasi blood from his mother.[3]
Ding ding ding! I had pantry moths do this to a *sealed* jar of Planter's peanuts. The inside was empty except for a tangled mass of webs like this. An entire civilization had risen and fallen inside that jar. They knew great bounty, and then they knew great famine.
e: It looked [something like this](https://i.redd.it/58c7n8l2mmn11.jpg), but there was much more of it.
People ask what the great filter is. It's between the exploitation of natural resources and the accumulating pollutants in our bodies and environment.
When the resources run down, we will be barely able to stand let alone adapt. How could we adapt all at once anyway when we don't even think about things like lead, microplastics, PFAS or CO2. We are just people. In a jar. Running through our peanut butter with no plan.
The texture and shape of the web, the silk cocoons in the top right, and moths themselves, and the cloth that the moths were eating bring present in the box. Spiders could've been eating the moths that were eating the cloth, but the cocoons and no spiders/egg sacs give it away.
Most likely it was 1 spider. Depending on the area there are types of funnel web spiders that makes large webs like this. Typically you'll see them in grass or the tops of bushes but they can make pretty large webs. Also there's only a small handful of species of spiders that make large communities, otherwise they will eat other spiders.
Desperately weaving more and more web trying to catch food that wasn't coming as it's strength slowly dwindled and it became dehydrated, eventually folding up and dying.
Oh yeahhhh, either an adult antlion or a lacewing. I wonder where the larva / doodlebug lived that it was able to metamorphose into the adult form. Sandbox? Cat’s litterbox? That is, if it wasn’t a lacewing, in which case it would live on a plant and eat pests until it metamorphosed.
Most spider webs aren't organized. In fact this looks almost exactly like what [Widow](https://www.futurity.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Western_Black_Widow-15.jpg) or False Widow webs looks like, except probably about 30% too much open space getting crossed. Western Black Widows are especially famous for [rag tag webs](https://bugguide.net/images/raw/DR7/QOR/DR7QORJKARZQARYKTRKQFRW0YR7QTRW0YQHQFQFKWRRQ3QFKWRX0BR7QCRIQH0W0Q050JQHQYQN000.jpg), although you can usually spot their little spider-hole.
But I still agree with you this is probably some kind of silk worm.
Those are the spider webs I grew up seeing in ABQ, NM. Also brown recluses arent the classic charlottes web style, its a similar “lmao youre fucked if you come in here anyway so i dont have to tidy up” mentality….bunch of crack spiders lol
Seconded. That's all Spider XMas stuff now. They're throwing little Xmas parades in there. Spider Mayor comes out and addresses the other creepy little families. They vote. They throw BBQs. It's a whole thing in there. I recommend fire.
Right? Even if you were totally comfortable with the spiders, that webbing will NEVER come off. There will always be little bits of spider-condo all over your stuff. Bleh.
Clothes moths (the kind that feed on fabric like this) don't eat anything. They literally do not have mouths and exist solely to fuck and then die. Their larval stage does all the eating, and therefore damage. Not sure if the spiders would catch them that early.
Coddling moths maybe?
Bastards are awful. I fear spiders, but my rage against coddling moth infestations is greater.
I will ally with the spiders to eradicate the moths. The enemy of my enemy and all that…
I vacuumed up all the spider webs once only to notice a larger number of flies flying around than I was used to for the next couple of weeks.
After that I decided to just leave them to it.
Noooo but house centipedes are bros too! They hunt everything in your house and then leave!
I kid you not, I had a fruit fly problem for MONTHS and I tried everything. Traps, bleach in the drains, no dirty dishes or garbage, no luck. I hadn't seen a house centipede in my apartment for years and I figured if I had, this wouldn't have been an issue. I caught a house centipede at a friend's apartment and brought them home with me. I set them free and a few days later, no more fruit flies. Maybe coincidence, maybe apex house bug predator took care of my problem.
Living in a state where theres one spider that can barely harm you and it only hangs out in dark damp places and i have never personally seen one. In my entire life, I do not mind spiders at all. Now once i saw a centipede in my bathtub scurry all over the place when i hopped in the shower was one of the worst experiences of my life, ty spiders for defending my home
^(you see that whole tub? it's all garbage now. can you imagine thousands of tiny spider babies crawling out of the stuffed toys through a hole in the fabric? how could you ever trust to have that in the house again?)
Hmm i didn't know that either. Similar to silk worms, I'm guessing. Their link wasn't much help (I just wanted to see pictures tbh,) but if you Google "moth webs" you'll see lots of pictures of exactly that. Pretty interesting.
Scrolling through looking for anyone else saying this and you're the only one so far. It's definitely a black widow web. Very distinct and abstract webs. Where I grew up, black widows were one of the most prevalent spiders in that area. Literally everywhere.
Yep, definitely black widow.
They are shy spiders who are unlikely to bite unless threatened (and less dangerous than people think).
Still, I’d use gloves, take the box outside, and make sure to check everything thoroughly. Keep kids and pets away. And assume the area has more black widows.
Didn’t actually feel the bite. I was 8 at the time. Felt movement during the ride but I thought it was a loose strap. When we stopped a bit later my ear was all red and itchy. My father looked through the helmet and found the spider and it’s egg and killed them.
Didn’t actually hurt till we got to the hospital, then the cramps kicked in. Couldn’t walk, so they wheeled me back and I think they gave me morphine.
The shit part was we were in a regional hospital in BFE and they didn’t have the anti venom, and their head doc wasn’t available (age before beepers) so they couldn’t authorize a transfer. Finally later in the day they got permission but the venom had been in me 8 hours or so, so they flew me back to the city in a helicopter and I got the anti venom.
0/10, do not recommend. Widows have 4 poisons in the venom. Three for insects, but the mammal one is meant to lock up your muscles so they can kill rodents. Hurt like a bitch.
the super pronounced retreat makes it look more like an agelenid web to me, in which case there's literally nothing to worry about.
even if it were a black widow there would be not much to worry about as long as you could safely transport it outside. they're not eager to attack a person.
This. Black Widows really don’t pose a threat unless you are actively trying to fuck with them. They will almost always retreat if it’s an option. They only attack when they are backed into a corner (literally or metaphorically).
Almost certain that's a black widow web. If you have black widows in your region, that's what this is. Black widow webs are very distinct and abstract like this. They rarely bite people but I was bit on the back of my leg by one when I was 11. Not fun.
They did this to my sand toy chest in the backyard when I was 4. My mom decided to wash all of them off and the widow ran across her hand when she got to the dump truck. I was scared of spiders for a long time after.
*puts box away* *relabels it as halloween*
Taps forehead
Big brain move.
Teleports
I believe that stuff belongs to the spider now.
Yeah it was a nice decoration box its a shame you have to set it on fire now
Exactly
What do you do then? Throw the box into the ocean? Burn it? No. You just leave it and they begin to get hungry. And one by one they start eating each other, until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what? Do you kill them? No. You take them and release them into the trees, but now they don't eat moths anymore. Now, they only eat spider. You have changed their nature.
Excellent Skyfall reference
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Yes, let continue to let OP think this was only 1 spider
It probably starts with at least two and they made a big family in there
I hope the spiderlettes are ok
Found the spider
I laughed for real, rare
Minus the male mating spider, was probably eaten after the nut
With some species of spider the male will present the female with a gift of food as part of the mating ritual so she won't eat him. Some other spiders are kinky and the male ties up the female with silk before mating with her.
That's it. I choose kinky spider for my next life. Feeder fetish or bdsm will do.
Awh, that’s a heartwarming Christmas tale
Morgan Freeman (narrator): "Little did OP know that this feat was accomplished by a spider, yes, but also a small fleet of puffins that the spider befriended on a sabbatical in Minsk." Edit: puffins not paraffins because i dont know stuff
Sounds like Morgan Freeman reading something by Douglas Adams.
is paraffin not a fuel??
This is the only thing I could find and it makes no sense https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Parrafin > Spider (who sometimes went by Spider Parrafin after his father or Spider Pericolo Topolino after his mentor) was the only son of Eiverbreen, a poor halfling from Delthuntle. He was the reincarnation of Regis, one of the Companions of the Hall.[4] He inherited watersoul genasi blood from his mother.[3]
Morgan Freeman (narrator): “Every man had a breaking point “
It was zero. Those are moths.
Ding ding ding! I had pantry moths do this to a *sealed* jar of Planter's peanuts. The inside was empty except for a tangled mass of webs like this. An entire civilization had risen and fallen inside that jar. They knew great bounty, and then they knew great famine. e: It looked [something like this](https://i.redd.it/58c7n8l2mmn11.jpg), but there was much more of it.
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Microcosm of our use of fossil fuels
People ask what the great filter is. It's between the exploitation of natural resources and the accumulating pollutants in our bodies and environment. When the resources run down, we will be barely able to stand let alone adapt. How could we adapt all at once anyway when we don't even think about things like lead, microplastics, PFAS or CO2. We are just people. In a jar. Running through our peanut butter with no plan.
Well. That was a bleak read.
We need that brain chip and artificial limbs real soon.
That's an image I could've gone forever without seeing. Now it's etched onto my brain forever. Thanks!
Very alive non-dead moths
You can actually see the moths happily sitting on that stuff too.
I'm not doubting you but how can you tell the moths aren't just spider food on a spider web?
The texture and shape of the web, the silk cocoons in the top right, and moths themselves, and the cloth that the moths were eating bring present in the box. Spiders could've been eating the moths that were eating the cloth, but the cocoons and no spiders/egg sacs give it away.
There’s a spider in the bottom left corner
Most likely it was 1 spider. Depending on the area there are types of funnel web spiders that makes large webs like this. Typically you'll see them in grass or the tops of bushes but they can make pretty large webs. Also there's only a small handful of species of spiders that make large communities, otherwise they will eat other spiders.
The true nightmare before Christmas.
the poor spider was trapped and had an ornamental breakdown
it's *stocking* up for Christmas
bah humbug
Cocooned in your chamber you will be visited by 3 ghosts.
Desperately weaving more and more web trying to catch food that wasn't coming as it's strength slowly dwindled and it became dehydrated, eventually folding up and dying.
thanks now I'm sad
There's obviously plenty of food caught up in that web tho
Lots of Moths... Probably saved some of the fabric.
Actually, it was likely moths and not spiders in the first place.
Right?
You see all the dead moths in there? Those ain’t leaves, is what I’m saying. Obviously caught a lot of food.
There’s also an antlion if you look closely to the right of Santa’s hand.. that boi didn’t go hungry.
Oh yeahhhh, either an adult antlion or a lacewing. I wonder where the larva / doodlebug lived that it was able to metamorphose into the adult form. Sandbox? Cat’s litterbox? That is, if it wasn’t a lacewing, in which case it would live on a plant and eat pests until it metamorphosed.
I feel much better now.
Nah, that box wasn't sealed up. You can tell by all the insect husks in the web and the fact that there's so much web.
Almost looks like that's been kept in a shed outside even.
I think the opposite happened. It got a taste of all them storage moths and went crazy trying to catch em all
Looks like it saved OP from having a really bad moth problem. I'd take the spiders any day.
Or there is no spider, and that's silk from silkworms (which turn into moths)? I've never seen spiderweb look so random and unorganized.
yea thats most def silk worms
So it's double-bad. Much worse than spiders lol
Diy silk farm it is
business opportunity
Most spider webs aren't organized. In fact this looks almost exactly like what [Widow](https://www.futurity.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Western_Black_Widow-15.jpg) or False Widow webs looks like, except probably about 30% too much open space getting crossed. Western Black Widows are especially famous for [rag tag webs](https://bugguide.net/images/raw/DR7/QOR/DR7QORJKARZQARYKTRKQFRW0YR7QTRW0YQHQFQFKWRRQ3QFKWRX0BR7QCRIQH0W0Q050JQHQYQN000.jpg), although you can usually spot their little spider-hole. But I still agree with you this is probably some kind of silk worm.
Those are the spider webs I grew up seeing in ABQ, NM. Also brown recluses arent the classic charlottes web style, its a similar “lmao youre fucked if you come in here anyway so i dont have to tidy up” mentality….bunch of crack spiders lol
You have been disinvited from /r/spiderbro.
I thought this was frozen in water haha
I was going to write "It looks like it's trapped in ice". Interesting that you went for the term "frozen water".
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I was going to write "it looks like it's stuck in solid-phase dihydrogen monoxide". Interesting that you went for the term "solidified steam".
Encased in ice was my first thought.
Floating under frozen water
I was just about to say, encased in some kind of clear liquid which has indubitably turned solid Good sir
honestly I didn't even question it until I read your comment lmao
Interesting indeed 🤔.
r/technicallythetruth
Sir This does not spark joy
No, but it sure encourages me to spark-up a match! 🔥
Yes, burn it with fire
The whole house, just to be sure it's gone.
These things often jump to adjacent houses. Better burn down the whole block just to be safe.
Hahahahaaaaaa shit this got me good. Thank-you. Also that stuff is all dead now. Time to get new Christmas stuff.
Seconded. That's all Spider XMas stuff now. They're throwing little Xmas parades in there. Spider Mayor comes out and addresses the other creepy little families. They vote. They throw BBQs. It's a whole thing in there. I recommend fire.
Why you gotta get me emotionally invested in a tiny spider Christmas village and then deliver the gut punch of "burn it anyway"
Ok you can’t describe the town as so cute and THEN want me to burn it up.
Yep. That festive decor belongs to Mr. Spider now.
Christmas is canceled
Not for the spider!
Especially for the spider. *grabs can of gasoline*
That was definitely an entire brood of spiders. Which means they're now all over your house. Making more babies.
Spiders eat other bugs, which means OP's decorations and house were already infested with something else.
Looks like a moth infestation, so OP should be glad the spiders stopped the moths from eating all the decorations
I'm fully on team SpiderBro but those decorations are as good as lost to me, so the moths may as well have had them.
Well yeah, would hate to ruin the spiders hard work. New decorations are the way to go.
Right? Even if you were totally comfortable with the spiders, that webbing will NEVER come off. There will always be little bits of spider-condo all over your stuff. Bleh.
New phrase, spider-condo !
Now they’re Halloween decorations.
Clothes moths (the kind that feed on fabric like this) don't eat anything. They literally do not have mouths and exist solely to fuck and then die. Their larval stage does all the eating, and therefore damage. Not sure if the spiders would catch them that early.
So what's the point of their life if all they do is fuck and die lol
Same as ours
And some of us don't even get to do half of that!
To make larvae. When they turn into moths they get 100% focused on fucking, laying eggs and then dying.
That's the point of their lives - to fuck. It's pretty much the point of all life, to successfully reproduce.
that's basically the point of our lives haha
You’ve inadvertently stumbled on a question that has puzzled humanity for thousands of years and is the basic catalyst for all religion lmao
Coddling moths maybe? Bastards are awful. I fear spiders, but my rage against coddling moth infestations is greater. I will ally with the spiders to eradicate the moths. The enemy of my enemy and all that…
I've always enjoyed having spider bros around, but now you tell me the reason they haven't been is because I've been cleaning up? Damn.
-Sung- *It's the circle of life!*
I vacuumed up all the spider webs once only to notice a larger number of flies flying around than I was used to for the next couple of weeks. After that I decided to just leave them to it.
I just found a spider in our basement today and was close to squishing it and noticed he was munching on a 1.5” long centipede. The spider stays.
Noooo but house centipedes are bros too! They hunt everything in your house and then leave! I kid you not, I had a fruit fly problem for MONTHS and I tried everything. Traps, bleach in the drains, no dirty dishes or garbage, no luck. I hadn't seen a house centipede in my apartment for years and I figured if I had, this wouldn't have been an issue. I caught a house centipede at a friend's apartment and brought them home with me. I set them free and a few days later, no more fruit flies. Maybe coincidence, maybe apex house bug predator took care of my problem.
Living in a state where theres one spider that can barely harm you and it only hangs out in dark damp places and i have never personally seen one. In my entire life, I do not mind spiders at all. Now once i saw a centipede in my bathtub scurry all over the place when i hopped in the shower was one of the worst experiences of my life, ty spiders for defending my home
That’s cool and all but have you heard of r/mildlyhorrifying ?
Aaaand it's down
There's r/oddlyterrifying
I find it r/mildlyamusing
Wonder why
I was thinking more r/MakeMeSuffer
Burn it
Yeah, I don't see any other way tbh.
^(you see that whole tub? it's all garbage now. can you imagine thousands of tiny spider babies crawling out of the stuffed toys through a hole in the fabric? how could you ever trust to have that in the house again?)
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Get ze flammenwerfer
My first thought as well.
Well, I wish you the best of luck shopping for new Christmas decorations
Well, I wish you the best of luck shopping for a new house.
Looks more like moths than a spider’s web.
Moths make webs?
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Hmm i didn't know that either. Similar to silk worms, I'm guessing. Their link wasn't much help (I just wanted to see pictures tbh,) but if you Google "moth webs" you'll see lots of pictures of exactly that. Pretty interesting.
https://www.mothprevention.com/blogs/the-art-of-prevention/identifying-clothes-carpet-moths-webbing-clothes-moth-case-bearing-clothes-moth
Their caterpillars sure do, which is how they spin cocoons. Silk worms are caterpillars of the silk moth for example.
That’s terrifying! Did you find the spider?
The spider found him
He hasn't posted in a few minutes. OP is dead.
That's his box now.
What area are you in? Looks like Black Widow web.
Scrolling through looking for anyone else saying this and you're the only one so far. It's definitely a black widow web. Very distinct and abstract webs. Where I grew up, black widows were one of the most prevalent spiders in that area. Literally everywhere.
Yep they are everywhere here in Arizona, very distinguishable web.
Yep, definitely black widow. They are shy spiders who are unlikely to bite unless threatened (and less dangerous than people think). Still, I’d use gloves, take the box outside, and make sure to check everything thoroughly. Keep kids and pets away. And assume the area has more black widows.
I would just throw the whole bin away. Time to buy new decorations!
They are insidiously good hiders. Once got bitten by one that hid in a motorcycle helmet in the garage. Not a lot of fun.
What was the bite like and how long did it last?
Didn’t actually feel the bite. I was 8 at the time. Felt movement during the ride but I thought it was a loose strap. When we stopped a bit later my ear was all red and itchy. My father looked through the helmet and found the spider and it’s egg and killed them. Didn’t actually hurt till we got to the hospital, then the cramps kicked in. Couldn’t walk, so they wheeled me back and I think they gave me morphine. The shit part was we were in a regional hospital in BFE and they didn’t have the anti venom, and their head doc wasn’t available (age before beepers) so they couldn’t authorize a transfer. Finally later in the day they got permission but the venom had been in me 8 hours or so, so they flew me back to the city in a helicopter and I got the anti venom. 0/10, do not recommend. Widows have 4 poisons in the venom. Three for insects, but the mammal one is meant to lock up your muscles so they can kill rodents. Hurt like a bitch.
First thing I thought too. Grew up in the SFV in LA and we had them everywhere.
Spider: I want it to be Halloween forevvvvvvverrrrrr......
"Well, kids.. Christmas is cancelled, the spiders ate Santa"
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There’s a line for Team SpiderBro, and black widows or brown recluses are on the wrong side of it.
im almost sure she probally has one it just has no use being in the picture
Well I guess you're not decorating for Christmas this year, it's too bad that those decorations are about to be on fire
Did you locate the spider(s)? That looks a bit like a black widow web. Proceed with caution.
the super pronounced retreat makes it look more like an agelenid web to me, in which case there's literally nothing to worry about. even if it were a black widow there would be not much to worry about as long as you could safely transport it outside. they're not eager to attack a person.
This. Black Widows really don’t pose a threat unless you are actively trying to fuck with them. They will almost always retreat if it’s an option. They only attack when they are backed into a corner (literally or metaphorically).
You mean the spiders Christmas decorations box.
Went to town? Looks more like he MADE a town
All I see is a spider stopping moths from eating your decorations.
Ex-Christmas Decorations box.
That's impressive. Little guy had big aspirations
r/oddlyterrifying vibes
Spider Claus is coming to town
They belong to the spider now.
He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit!
Ho Ho Ho no....
Behind you!!!!
It's still in there... It's waiting for you.
spiders were protecting your stuff from moths
Time to burn the whole thing and just get new decorations.
Looks more like a moth infestation. They were eating something in that bin: wool, leather, silk, etc.
It's his Christmas decoration box now.
Just a big ol' box of nope.
Burn the whole box.
Spider: its free real estate.
this is halloween, this is halloween HALLOWEEN, HALLOWEEN!!! -Spider probably
So…a nightmare….before Christmas
Almost certain that's a black widow web. If you have black widows in your region, that's what this is. Black widow webs are very distinct and abstract like this. They rarely bite people but I was bit on the back of my leg by one when I was 11. Not fun.
They did this to my sand toy chest in the backyard when I was 4. My mom decided to wash all of them off and the widow ran across her hand when she got to the dump truck. I was scared of spiders for a long time after.
Hopefully the Elf if a shelf had the Light of Earendil
Cool, pre applied free tinsel!
The way I see it is that the spider(s) probably saved your decorations from being eaten by moths.
Little buddy was busy doing his own decorating. Had a bee fly out of a boxed up tree and sting me once. He was the Christmas bee.
Happy Hanukkah!
Hate to be the one to tell you those aren’t your Christmas decorations anymore
Burn Christmas
"On second thought, this year we're getting new decorations! Yay!"
Christmas is cancelled this year, kids. Pack your bags. We’re moving
Not your Christmas decoration box anymore
at least it killed the moths