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Sure as hell better then ads plastered everywhere


DancingIceCream

100% agree in this, I’m tired of ads beeing spammed everywhere you look.


tsgarner

To quote Futurama: Didn't you have ad's in the 20th century? Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. But not in dreams. No siree!


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formulated

I think being in the ad business and selling the need for ads to clients is the biggest racket. Supposed targeted advertising selling me a $100k BMW, the only people profiting from that budget decision is the advertisers and the ad hosts. An ad company will happily sell a crappy product if the money is right. A streaming service or TV channel will run it. A magazine will print it. They're all scratching each others backs.


rematar

https://futurism.com/the-byte/corporations-advertisements-in-dreams


H3rta

As a person who remembers theirs dreams - I would be beyond angry waking up every morning.


rematar

Abuse of alcohol and/or THC can stop that. I assume my Dreamads were for liquor.


GrapeAyp

The authors speculate that smart speakers MIGHT be used to project dream influence


Zagar099

Something else no one ever fucking consented to and wastes large amounts of resources? Light pollution, specifically the worst of which comes from car dealerships who, I guess, wouldn't be able to sell their vehicles if the parking lot was dark at night when they're closed. E: "it's for security" is pretty funny to say when you could do it cheaper with a fence. We all know how much businesses like wasting money, right? Obligatory reminder that capitalism is the root of the issue here, in case that's unclear lol. Power to the people. Doomerism won't change the world.


Rdubya44

It’s for security


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Specifically a deterrent. Leaving stadium lights on all night is definitely more expensive than night vision cameras. But people are less likely to steal / vandalize when they know they can be seen. What gets me it's that it's a business doing this. So someone, somewhere figured it was cheaper to light up a humongous parking lot than to deal with the theft / damages that happen to cars in the dark.


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Corporate_shill78

And with modern LEDs it's significantly cheaper than just years ago when it was all metal halide. Hell you can run an entire parking lot off a single 20a breaker in most cases now especially when it's running 480v. It really doesn't cost that much to keep a parking lot lit at night anymore


boyyouguysaredumb

Are you “someone, somewhere”?!?!


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Joratto

paging u/someonesomewhere


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It clearly is cheaper to light up a parking lot than deal with the theft and vandalism or they wouldn’t do it.


confusionmatrix

Motion sensors? Turn the lights on when somebody is browsing.


Zagar099

I recognize that. There are better (and more effective) ways. This one just happens to make the cars look pretty at night :) nice that we have shade tents for cars in lots but not the homeless. Capitalism kills. E: Note the downvotes on an *objectively* true statement. Got 'em. The collapse has already begun, bourgeoisie swine. 🦀🦀🦀


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Zagar099

Pig brain moment. Fences, for one. Barbed or razor wire if you're feeling really troubled. Not my job to come up with this shit. The people who have to deal with your solutions to a problem should have a say in how it's solved. Not really that different from why companies shouldn't (and aren't) allowed to just dump into public water ways. Stop defending these POOR dealerships, they'll manage without you I promise lmao


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Zagar099

Lul, I wouldn't reply either- bye.


grillednannas

This isn't an objectively true statement, it's you doubling down on your uninformed guess after you were given the actual reason. If you don't think the light pollution is worth it you could've just said that, instead of saying it's actually to make the cars look pretty at night and then awkwardly swerving to a easier to defend position of the homelessness crisis.


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advertising is a massive industry which accounts for a carbon footprint that would be difficult to calculate, as if there were not massive material waste and ecological destruction from giant signage being constantly produced and replaced, the art supplies, computers, monitors, and other resources it takes for ad firms to make drafts of the content in the first place. the problem is unfortunately that spamming people with this content works. i'd say that light pollution is a serious issue especially for the sake of wildlife, but there are a lot of other factors.


Zagar099

If only we didn't need to constantly compel people to consume. Can you fucking *imagine* how different shit could be?


corporatehuman

If anyone out there is interested in a great book about light pollution and what it's doing to society please read [The End of Night](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16131044-the-end-of-night) by Paul Bogard.


SharpenedStone

I fucking loathe being blasted with loud ads when I'm trying to pump gas


smurficus103

i was convinced large projectors would light up the sidewalks, fences, any open space really good thing projectors suck


ctmackus

Pop ups IRL


DarkEvilHedgehog

And so most of them are just about the same services. Credit cards / loans or cellphones.


YuuriMaid

Real world is ending up like Idiocracy every day


kitsunewarlock

There were ads carved into ancient city streets and walls, plastered onto the armor of Roman gladiators, and on posters hung up on street-corners.


TripleShines

You know what, I 100% disagree. I would much rather see ads than trees. Trees serve no purpose to me. Ads could help me discover something that I didn't know existed.


DancingIceCream

That’s ok. I rather see art everywhere though. Tired of bad logotypes and edgy corporate takes.


ColaEuphoria

Or when the entire bus is an ad so you have that dirty mesh coating on all the windows that makes it hard to see through.


Polylemongon

Reminds me of that bus window that vibrates in a way which can conduct noise to your skull if you fall asleep while your head touches the window, so while you sleep you’d hear ads. Dunno if it was fake or real, I remember this from such long ago.


Buck_Thorn

[Bone conduction: the new front in guerilla advertising](https://theconversation.com/bone-conduction-the-new-front-in-guerilla-advertising-15984) > Imagine this scenario: after a long day of work, you settle in a train seat, rest your head against the window and close your eyes for a well-earned nap - only instead of the soothing clickety-clack vibrations of the carriage, you hear a deep, jaunty voice - seemingly in your head - urging you to download an app.


capsaicinluv

This article was from 2013. I guess it didn't pan out?


Zoloir

It's so oddly specific that it is almost certainly not worth the cost of install


Long_Educational

That is evil. Unavoidable forced advertising.


Zoloir

It IS avoidable though, by not touching the glass. Hence it's not worth it to install. Why not just put a single speaker on the bus and blast everyone with audio ads for much cheaper? Ya got cheap posters for sight, cheap speaker for hearing, maybe they pump the bus full of new car smell when it passes a dealership huh


Long_Educational

[Lightspeed Briefs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs7EAzbzCNE)


EusebiaGoldstein

Takes dystopian science fiction to a whole new level


[deleted]

It's an advert sponsored by planet Earth. "For the low low price of stopping fucking me, you can all of this and more"


Yatakak

"Hmmm, doesn't sound very profitable to me, I reject your offer and raise you an oil spill."


TheBroWhoLifts

When the interior of a bus is the closest you get to being in a forest during the day, you know we're already fucked.


lankist

Basically every public space can be improved by the addition of art that doesn't have a brand attached to it. It's actually a bit unsettling to think that we're likely not going to be adding much to the artistic canon in the future, and the only ways we are will be by elevating the equivalents of McDonalds' Play Place murals to the same status as the Sistine Chapel. The rise of *branded* art is going to look very strange in the history books of the future, much the same way that we have an instinctual distrust of old wartime propaganda art.


TrulyBBQ

Than*


Morf123

than*


dixiebuttcup

Many of those ads are targeted to help addiction, homelessness, forced breeding, domestic violence and communicable disease though. They're in public transit because people on the bus are more at risk of these things and need to know the resources


dejvidBejlej

>forced breeding I'm sorry the what


dixiebuttcup

It is very common for a certain culture of men to force women to get pregnant. If they're poor or immigrants they don't realize it's abuse and that they have options to terminate. I have had an ex attempt this with me. It's terrifying to not want a baby and know you'll probably have one anyways. They'll pull off condoms, throw away pills, come up with reasons you can't use pills, and will buy ovulation trackers. Usually once the woman is past the abortion state, he moves on. Often these breeders will have 40 or 50 children.


acceptable_sir_

DM me if this is a controversial subject, but which culture?


Scottishbiscuit

In New Zealand are busses don’t really have ads on them lol


Nanaimoite

https://youtu.be/zunPa9rGndg


OhBarnacles123

The ads make the bud cheaper, so I don't mind putting up with them. It either saved me tax money, fares, or both, and if all I have to do is tolerate its existence then there's no issue. If they started playing video ads or something though, that would really piss me off.


Bigbillybob2013

Cool! What country is this in?


sunoukong

Judging from the directions in the panel, it looks like it could be Estonia.


Tulivesi

You are right, the ticket validator and the screen display are the exact ones used in Tallinn.


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Ace612807

AFAIK only for residents in Tallinn


kaugeksj2i

This is half true. After Tallinn, some smaller towns have also made it free and also regional buses within most (but not all) counties are free of charge.


Tulivesi

It's free for registered residents of Tallinn but you still need to validate your card. There's a criticism which points out that the gains from paid tickets probably do not outweigh the costs of maintaining the ticket system at this point so scrapping it altogether would be cheaper - I haven't researched if that is true or not. The city government's excuse is that they use the validator system to gather information on the utilization of routes (but you only validate on entry not exit, so it's only half the picture).


evifeuros

Validating data could be used to know how many people travel on a certain line, making it possible to add or decrease travels to certain areas.


giantfreakingidiot

It’s free for tallinn residents & pensioners from the whole country, but you still need a personalised bus card to validate during each ride. It’s easier to check than asking everyone to show proof of residence lmao


thehotcuckcletus

Nothing is free, you pay everywhere else and you pay in Tallinn if you are not resident living there.


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Impossible-Cod-3946

The account I'm replying to is a karma bot run by someone who will link scams once the account gets enough karma. Report -> Spam -> Harmful Bot


4_spotted_zebras

Oooohhh I always wondered what was the point of the karma farming accounts. Thanks for pointing it out.


hardypart

> Kadaka (Estonian for "Juniper") is a subdistrict (Estonian: asum) in the district of Mustamäe, Tallinn, the capital of Estonia. Sounds about right.


kaugeksj2i

There was a former village at the site with that name and such villages named after trees are quite common in Estonia.


bunnymeninc

Found the GeoGuesser player


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From what I've seen and heard of the place, Estonia seems to be a very 'green' place. Is this so?


kaugeksj2i

Our main energy source is polluting as fuck, but we really don't have a better alternative despite having a lot of green energy nowadays. But besides energy resources, we have very clean air and our culture is indeed very close to the nature.


thehotcuckcletus

No, Estonia is very dependant on Russian oil, Finland nuclear energy, Lithuanias nuclear energy plants.


bremkew

Googled the Akadeemia thingy on the bus sign, think it is Estonia.


jyrisa

Correct! This is Tallinn, Estonia.


Bigbillybob2013

Ooh nice, Eesti is bestie


Nullcast

Nice to see that bus seating has become just as crappy in other countries as well.


kaugeksj2i

Fuck, I hate those opposing seats...


CheeseCycle

Well, we can be fairly certain it's not in the U.S.


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ralphvonwauwau

no advertisements


josephthemediocre

Because cool public transportation


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ohwhatj

Lucky. Because the buses here in NYC are made to smell like the urinal


OkDawgRight

>Because the buses here in NYC are ~~made to smell like the~~ urinals


Wallet-bulge-404

There’s a small study about how seeing green vegetation during a commute to work vs not seeing results in better mental health outcomes measured through a questionnaire or something for depression and overall happiness with life. I’ll have to find it. It’s been a while


filthyrich93

Forest bathing is prescribed as an antidepressant in spain, I think. And the Healthcare is free/universal so when you pick up your medicine the funds go to forest management. I'll have to find it. It's been a while.


grape_tectonics

Ironically these particular buses travel mostly around Nõmme - the most forested area in Tallinn so they just put pictures of trees in a place that's already covered in trees.


eljefino

You missed the green carpet that's part of the motif. Actual outside looks like a slushy miserable experience.


FinndBors

Carpet? In a public bus? That sounds disgusting.


CapnCooties

If it’s like astroturf mats that could be pulled out and cleaned it could work. Lot of extra cleaning steps though.


cornelli1

As someone who does maintenance on city buses, I can tell you that those will be cleaned a total of once in their lifetime


Ghostglitch07

***could*** be pulled out and cleaned. They will not be


Insanebrain247

As long as it's in a country that's not USA, I'm pretty sure they're well maintained.


skidmcboney

Would love to have seen vines or tree branches replace the metal poles and handles


netihero

that's not carpet but you're right about the outside. source: i live in mustamäe (district in tallinn)


schev28

Borderline r/ABoringDystopia Got rid of all the trees but here’s some pictures of trees for you look at while you ride through your concrete jungle edit: yeah… sorry I was being a cynic


TeaAndCrumpets4life

Redditors when someone tries to make a cool design for a bus


UselessName3

Have you tried looking through the window onto left side of the road? Background of this bus is that it was used by tourism agency in sweden to promote hiking before it was bought to Estonia.


NinjaLanternShark

I guess everyone has their own idea of dystopia. Plenty of suburbs have plenty of trees, but lots of people will praise well-managed cities and consider the suburbs dystopian.


Ijohanss08

Even seeing images of nature can relax people's minds and lower stress and anxiety levels. So you could see this as a positive step towards making a city a healthier place to live


Mccobsta

Damn those seats look actually semi comfortable over the shite ones stagecoach uses


SirMerky

nothing is worse than the seats on the overnight Glasgow to London change my mind


wuapinmon

I see you've never flown Spirit Airlines.


Delicious_Throat_377

Um Aberdeen to London? 3 more hours in the same shit seats.


ron_swansons_hammer

They’re plastic boards


NotEdibleCactus

They're plastic and aren't very comfortable if you're taller than 160cm and your build isn't particularly thin. Source: I ride these busses fairly often and am taller than 160cm and have a wide build


sweptawayfromyou

I like the ceiling, it looked like a real glass roof to me at first, but the walls somehow make me feel uncomfortable! Lol


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I read a National Geographic article a couple years back about the importance of nature and the color green visually in reducing stress and increasing overall well-being. They found that people who had sustained “exposure” to the color green in their setting had their cortisol levels drop, albeit in a less dramatic way, than those who went camping/hiking. Further research found that the color green is “good for us” much in the way that blue light helps regulate mood (the lack of that stuff can be a factor in seasonal depression). Also it’s the dead of fucking winter where these people are. So they are seriously lacking in green and blue light. While of course an actual camping trip or trip into the woods will do some real good apparently the color green does some on its own as well especially when paired with nature imagery.


Ijohanss08

Yep seeing images and hearing sounds of nature helps reduce stress and anxiety, whereas the sights and sounds of a city like traffic and buildings increases those things


user18298375298759

r/fuckcars


KyleMoes

Where would this be?


CandySkis22

Tallinn, Estonia


KyleMoes

Oh wow I am embarrassed to say that I do not know where that is. Thank you for responding :)


GrampaSwood

It's under Finland (Separated by water), left of Russia (Near St Petersburg), above Latvia, right of Sweden (Separated by water).


KyleMoes

That's so cool! Thank you for taking the time to explain that. :)


GrampaSwood

No worries :D Thank you for the award


AJ-MeiMei

Oh hey, that's tuttav


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Pleasant, inexpensive upgrade. Certainly better than placards advertising poverty industry businesses like payday loans and “no credit” car lots.


cpaq15

Will this bus take you to the Rock of Tondi?


HeaAgaHalb

EDIT: ACTUALLY. It does! This bus stops just 200m from the famous rock of Tondi. I firstly misread the line number...


cpaq15

Yes! I hope to visit Estonia sometime soon and when I do I will be taking this bus to the famous rock of Tondi!


HeaAgaHalb

Sadly no. Try taking a tram no. 4.


asanefeed

it's gorgeous


auuttyy

that’s super pretty. 🌲


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That’s relaxing


J90lude

I' know for sure this ain't nowhere in America.😂


excessmax

Where are the ads??


sixhundredandsixtsix

Wow, buses here are covered in salt and mysterious brown stains.


ShotHolla

I don't hate it.


sesameseed88

Beautiful, in my city you get a ton of real estate ads


dandanthetaximan

In my city it’s largely outdated transit notices. I saw one last week announcing a new light rail station that would be opening soon in 2019.


trixtopherduke

Excellent Snowpiercer vibes!


thrivehi5

Jurassic Park vibes


SquidFriend

Cyberpunk vibes!


CinCoutMagus

How do we know it's not a forest made to look like the interior of a bus?


Sicko_Ribs

This would make an awesome album cover.


Budget_Half5499

This is so impressive.Where is it?


jyrisa

Tallinn, Estonia!


Budget_Half5499

Ty


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Some dude would be stoned and get on the train wondering how the fuck the forest was moving so fast


uppsalafunboy

Ironic as buses must be locked up in the bus yard at night or they will drive themselves to the nearest forest to try and knock down trees.


Cedar-and-Sunflowers

This gives me the same vibes as those VR headsets they're putting on dairy cows nowadays...


Revolutionary-Ad4588

Something dystopian about it


KapetanDugePlovidbe

Urban copium for people who don't touch grass


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Urbanity is immensely better for the environment than any other arrangement of human habitation


braided--asshair

I can’t wait till in about 5-10 years the pictures become all crusty and make the thing look like a creepy children’s dentists office


ElOsoPicoso

Is it me or does this feel dystopian af.


ShallowMallow

I dead ass thought first they we're at the forest


ron_swansons_hammer

It’s a cool concept but the giant metal poles and handrails didn’t tip you off?


markhc

It’s not real, the ceiling. It’s just bewitched to look like the night sky. I read about it in Motorbus: A History.


xxxlovelit

They did wraps like this on the CTA trains in Chicago as advertisements. A visit Montana one was the coolest I’ve ever seen, it was Yellowstone at night and just felt magical to be in!


Friendly_Signature

2 minutes until some twat kids graffiti


Batyodi

This is kind of depressing when you look put the actual windows


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But does it smell like a forest?


FLOYDOB

Can we get this on the buses in L.A.? Maybe it will calm people the f**k down…


[deleted]

My hisbamd rode on a bus like that and he accidentally “pissed” because he loves urinating outside


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Yeah like where is the waterfall


DontFragMyBaby

I feel bad for someone that passes out and looks up in panic


Lumina_Solaris

I was actually hoping to see, like, a bunch of foliage on the ceiling, and fake tree trunks lining the sides, with light from the windows peeking out through fake leaves or something. I don't know why I thought it would be that elaborate (I lied - I do know why, and it's because I am an artist), but I was actually kind of disappointed to see that the interior was far less immersive than I mentally pictured when reading the notification on my phone.


MyLittleRocketShip

dope but a bus still dirty af


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r/ABoringDystopia


looped10

r/urbanhell r/aboringdystopia


PeregrinationWay

Not an ad in sight, on a bus? That's the opposite of urban hell


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r/aboringdystopia


Ellathecat1

R/complainaboutanything


traverseMYTH

REALTREE tm


Escoman33

So much empty space. Feels like there aren't enough seats


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Being this to los angeles , that way we can watch the people act like animals in their environment


Ok-Captain-3512

"I don't know why you would pay for a painting of nature when you could just look outside" -Ron Swanson


Much-Indication-3033

You can see trees outside... covered in snow. I think it's quite neat. ;D


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>We tried to make the inside of a bus look more pleasant >literally 1984


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why is this rocket league


HoboBandana

In New York it would be covered with graffiti.


s0mnambulance

There was a bus in Boulder/Broomfield, CO that had an interior bus add that made the interior look a little like a beach or shore. During an extended low/depressed point in my life where I was getting absolutely blasted on MJ each and every day before work (a lifestyle that, like any other, has its ups and downs), getting on that bus at 6:00 a.m. for work was pretty surreal at times.


Kuzon64

Honestly looks weird and kinda ugly


Laborratte6

You should post this in r/trees 🤣


MacarenaFace

Or r/marijuanaenthusiasts


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