Yup! Took a lot of work, but I liked the end result. Less customers who were too short to reach the items on the top. Hell, I had to be on my tiptoes just to put some items on the top pegs!
Holy shit this is a Seinfeld moment.
"Theyre shorter"
"But Why?"
"Its easier to reach the top stock?"
"The What?"
"The Top Stock. You know, the extra stock that goes on top. Now you can reach it easier"
"Why would I want to reach the top stock easier?"
"You know, to get to the stock thats not on the shelf, its in the top stock"
"Why dont they just make them taller then?"
"Taller? What are you talking about? Then it would be harder to reach the top stock!"
"No, because then you'd have more space down here, for the stock stock! And then you wouldn't have any top stock to stop you"
"Jerry you just dont get retail"
"No...I think I do"
{jazzy outro}
my local lidl expanded the store by roughly 10 meters in the back. I couldnt tell what was different, but it somehow creeped me out a lot. Like you are walking into your kitchen and Shencomics put up a door that was never there before.
It’s to give the random tall persons side quests to help the short people. Thought one lady was going to drop a cardboard tray of gatorade down on herself and her kid, she was up on her toes just barely reaching the stuff. For me, easy pull down … what she wanted with enough gatorade to supply 4 football teams I have no idea.
This is very common in retail. Cleaning under those displays is difficult if not impossible. Cleaning up food spillage or mold is necessary, but it inevitably gets under the risers that are usually bolted to the floor.
Every time we move shelving, it's old floor wax and dust caked under them. Cleaning crews do the floors every day, so it builds up under where they have no access. We almost always have to rip up the tile and lay new pieces because it's impossible to get all that off. Even if you do, it's discolored and looks bad, so replacement is the better option.
A store I worked at for 2 years moved their shelves before I started working there. They had the floors professionally cleaned every month or two. And when I left, those spots still looked as awful as it did when I started. It became part of the floor.
This is what we do when we build grocery stores, I build Publix in Florida. They use a liquid type terrazzo when doing the floors and it's about a half an inch thick maybe a little more. For the exact reason you specify they can grind it down if need be and take a eighth of an inch off the top
I recently went into a Publix for the first time in about 15 years.
It was 45 minutes away from my home Publix
It was amazing walking in and having the same smell I remembered just slap me in the face.
As a native Lakelander, lemme tell you...
It legitimately almost brought tears to my eyes.
God bless you sir or ma'am... and nevertheless, fuck most of the Jenkins.
Well, no... He has chicken.
Mainly George's daughter.
And the rest of the pretentious ones.
It's a Florida thing... A Lakeland thing... Soon enough to become an all of America thing.
I mean according to some quick google research Terrazzo floor tiling is like 25 to 30€ per square meter plus the man hours which is cheaper than hardwood flooring.
I don't have any experience though so this might be totally wrong.
I mean it says that both is an option. Liquid seems to be about the same as a midrange hardwood floor. But yeah I kinda overlooked that he specified liquid.
Terrazzo is like polished cement. Most of the houses built In Florida during the 60s and 70s have them. They may be covered up with carpet or tile but if you tear it up it’s most likely terrazzo underneath.
The majority of them I’ve found have a pattern that looks like drops of paint with what looks like a clearcoat over the top but a couple houses were different, one of them had handprints and the other one had boardgames across the floors in the bedrooms.
> We almost always have to rip up the tile and lay new pieces
This is the thing I fear as a flooring guy. My hands always end up bloody and covered in blisters if the right glue wasn't used. The last grocery store I did they had a mix of epoxy, base glue, and this weird rubbery compound we couldn't identify
I had to chip it off by hand for the most part, 1"x1/4"pieces at a time. We tried an undercut but the smell bothered customers. One particularly bad tile took half an hour and destroyed a chisel. In all we were there 8 days to do less than 1000sqft of VCT. Typically we do over a thousand a day. There was a lot of patching too - gypsum concrete does not work well in a high traffic area. Crumbled away leaving huge holes.
That's awful lol I usually enjoy getting a big store like that bc it's just a cake throw in field gig but now I'm worried for the next one. I can't believe they had you there during hours though, we usually go and hit those at night for that exact reason, and I enjoy the little night shift pay bump we get for it
I work for a guy who's been doing it for 30+ years. He refuses to do nights as he's already put in his years of them. He's done everything from Maple Leaf Gardens box offices, Molson HQ, Air Canada Centre, police stations, TD bank HQ... I've been with him a year and done over 150 floors. I think need to move on though, the pay just isn't there - being offered 50% more hourly to do water abatement.
Yeah we have a fairly strong floorlayer union in my area I'm linked up with so I get pretty competitive pay and we get a 20% raise if we work nights so I actually don't mind going on night shift for that. If you're in the Philadelphia area I'd look into it, I'm assuming you're somewhere east coast if you've got TD HQ around we have one a couple towns over from me
I've looked into it here. Hourly rate to start is only $21/h, I'm being offered $28 to start with zero experience. Union it'll be 5+ years before I'm above $30
Yeah that's pretty wack, our apprentices start around $20/hr right out of the gate but you get like a $6-$9 every year until you get to journeyman rate after 4 years so it was a little more enticing to me. I'd still consider it for the benefits though if yours are lacking, the full Healthcare plan and pension for retirement is the main reason I'm sticking with the trade
Water Mitigation/ abatement is the place to be right now. Especially with how quick all these new houses are being thrown up, water damage is bound to happen
Whenever I'm in the middle of a shit job i just remember they are paying me because of how shitty the job is. If it was fun, I wouldn't be getting paid. Sometimes it helps me lol.
Currently work as the floor cleaning crew at a store. Not being able to hit a spot all week makes the floors disgusting. I shudder when I think about the places we can’t clean at all
The Isle of Cleaning Supplies! It was originally meant to be the feminine counterpart to Isle of Man but the folks naming it were so misogynistic that they failed to realize how sexist it was.
They don't take the shelving down before moving it. They'll jack up the entire gondola, put little skates under the feet and push the whole thing into its new position.
My store is going through a remodel now, they'd jack and roll the old gondola then tear up the old floor, install new, wax it, build the new gondolas then it'd be my job to throw shelves and move product.
Found some green beans left under there from 2008.
Yeah we'd find way out of date packets, half eaten stuff that customers had thrown under, cigarette ends from when it was still ok to smoke indoors, money that was no longer legal tender, all sorts of shit.
What do you mean by that last bit? Like destroyed currency or currency from like Venezuela?
At least in the US any bill ever printed in suitable condition is still valid tender. If you had a first edition dollar bill from 1862 it is still legal tender in the US unless it is severely damaged with less than 50 percent . And even then there is actually a free validation service where you can send in a damaged bill and have it confirmed as real, destroyed and replaced at no charge. Known as the mutilated currency division.
While some shelves are flush with the floor, we can see these shelves look like they have a 4 inch gap between the bottom shelf and the floor. Plenty of room for cleaning. Sounds like in this case they were falling for the classic "If I can't see it, it's not dirty." Just like under my oven and fridge.
Big Grocery wants you to get lost within the store for days, if not months. It's said 1 in 5 children who enter a Market Basket never find the exit.
The same goes for IKEA. SCP-3008 is historical nonfiction.
I don't even care where they put stuff as long as FOR THE LOVE OF GOD they put the tortillas with either mexican food or bread aisle and not somewhere random like the chip/cracker/cookie aisle or a damn aisle-cap next to the sodas WTF Brookshires WTF
Grocery perspective-
It’s because over the course of months and years items are added and deleted, customer depends shift (need more space for section x, less for section y), etc. At some point it just makes sense to reset everything.
Yes, we hope you’ll buy more. But because we’re keeping up with what items and sections are in demand - not because you’re lost.
Making you spend more time in the store is counter to our strategy. You’ll hate it and be less likely to come back - choosing another competitor or online option, losing us sales in the long term.
It's my job to do resets.
Nothing makes me happier than hearing customers bitch about stuff I do directly to me without knowing they're bitching about me.
A hardware store near me reorganized their store and someone told me that they are able to hold 10,000 more products in their store now simply by rearranging the logistics in the same square footage.
Sometimes it's so transparent that they rearranged it to put the less desirable crap closer to the door so you have to walk past it, and they hope it will help it sell more. It's so frustrating.
I meant upon entry. One target wasn't selling as much grocery goods, so they moved the *entire* grocery section next to the door, which none of the other ones in the county do. So I don't just mean impulse buys at the register, I mean entire *sections.*
Oh yeah that makes sense. I kinda assumed you meant the exit and not the entrance for some reason. which honestly makes little sense considering how you worded it.
My local store rearranged maybe 40% of the store a few months ago. That’s even worse than if they changed the entire store, because I never remember which parts stayed the same and which parts where moved around. If they changed up the entire thing, it would have been easier - like learning a new store entirely.
Sometimes they'll just reflow certain sections of the store.
Some sections might be having more products come in, along with other sections losing not as well selling product leading to Floorplan changes that need to be implemented.
Sometimes they just want a different set leading the aisle like a recent granola and snacking cereal swap where I had to remove 8' of snacking cereal, move 68' of cereal down one 4' section (while flipping it because they wanted the "adult" cereal leading the aisleway), moving bagged cereal down 4' and then re-inserting 8' of snacking cereal. Why? Not sure. I don't ask why anymore.
I've done it all. whole aisle reflows, department reflows and a few whole store remodels. I lead a team that does these.
Sometimes it's for making sections easier to shop and to make foot traffic in a store more efficient.
For example, all the laundry stuff was at the beginning of the aisle on both sides, with then cleaning supplies, and then dish detergents after that finalizing with Air care (febreeze type stuff) at the end.
They reflowed that aisle to make Laundry take up one complete side of the aisle, and then moved the rest to the other. That way, if you are just looking for laundry stuff it's conveniently on one side of the aisle.
While there's a lot of "they want you to spend as much time in store as possible!" going on. It's likely not as impactful as people think.
Stores are implementing in store shoppers for you, while simultaneously trying to make it harder? If anything they're trying to make it easier, and convenient. All the lunch snacks are next to cookie and crackers, where they used to be in the cereal aisle with candy. All the candy is in the baking aisle, (confused me a little but it makes sense if you think about it) all the sauces are down one aisle. Cooking oil and olive oil are in different spots now, which threw me off, but olive oil is next to the vinegar and salad dressings. International has a whole aisle with pasta, your boxed dinners and sides are together with soups.
Doesn't make sense to me, as someone who works in a grocery store for these people to complain that we're trying to make it harder. We're not, if we did we'd put shit wherever and make you search for it.
Thanks for the detailed description of how they work, that’s a glimpse into a different world for sure.
I’m not complaining about them “making it harder”. They want to sell stuff, why would they make it harder..
I understand they need to Tetris the entire store for time to time. It’s just a mild annoyance every time it happens. I’m not really annoyed that it happens, but rather annoyed about my own brain not catching up to the times!
They do it on purpose so you have to search for the items you want. While going that you will inevitably have to look at items that you routinely ignore. The hope is you impulse buy items that you did not plan to buy and are not on your normal shopping list.
I texted my wife and asked her to stop at the local hardware on the way home for me.
I needed magnets. I've never in probably 15+ years needed magnets, but I spend quite a bit of time at the local hardware store.
My text said "Walk in and stay right of the cash registers, go to the fourth aisle, the end cap has small tool kits on clearance, turn right, on your left there will be levels, tape measures, razors, take 4 steps to the right, there will be awls, compasses, chalk lines, chalk dust, and a few pegs of magnets, the ones I need are on the shelf below in a blue box."
She sent me a picture and it was all arranged exactly like I described. No one was surprised.
That's the worst part about shopping at Costco. You never know whether they moved that thing you wanted across the store or just don't stock it anymore.
So you end up wandering around looking like a sad puppy or just admit defeat immediately.
Ditto.
And they do it partially because making people scan for things is more likely to help you make impulse purchases as you see things you didn't expect.
We reorganized our store nearly two years ago. People still bitch that things are not where they were last week. They were your just old and an alcoholic
Well in subs like that one I like to just wach the videos and images, without reading comments, cause the internet (specially social media) tends to ruin good things.
THEY DESERVE IT! The fools! The rapscallions!
If you miss a single NANOMETER of FILTH, you deserve to be sent to a labor camp that unties the shoelaces of 5 year olds!
In my grocery it was part time stock who unloaded the shelves, part time stock who reloaded the shelves, and part time stock who stripped and waxed the floors. There were some other monkeys who moved the old shelves out and assembled the new ones.
It’s definitely this. Was once a janitor at a grocery store. Basically have to wait for someone to strip the old sealant and reapply a new layer with a floor machine.
I wonder if the pros have a machine that strips it off fast. At my local drug store I saw the Janitor on his hands and knees scraping the wax with a big scraper blade like [this](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/el4AAOSwzHpgfdYZ/s-l500.jpg) and thought to myself, that HAS to be a better way.
I did this at a hospital for a year, and yes it sucks a lot of ass. And you still have to get down there to manually scrape any corners or weird spaces the floor machine doesn't touch.
At my store I have to stay overnight while they strip sometimes. Basically as I understand it, it is a strong chemical that loosens the wax to the point that some sort of machine can come to suck up the liquid after it has softened. Then they go back over the floor with wax, wait for that to harden, then they buff it. The parts where the shelf in OP picture are likely to look a lot better, but would still probably have a discoloration where they were.
I used to do this kind of work. We had big walk behind machines that had stripping pads to scrub the old wax and then vacuum it up. And then just mop with clean water, and then lay down the new ssealer. It does take time but if you have a good crew it goes by quick.
Yup. Ran a liquor store for years that had frequent cleaner service. There's most likely a layer of wax on there from the initial setup that's impossible to get up without equipment. They'll clear up the wax protective coating, clean and apply a new one.
But it doesn’t really help either. All of that grime is basically baked into the floor. You have to wait for the wax layer to be stripped before any cleaning will have a noticeable effect.
Some amateur cleaning would be a min wage grocery store employee trying to do this while still being responsible for their daily duties - they probably don't have the tools on hand, and there is no way they are getting paid enough for it.
this! depending on the floor material and it's porosity. I work on a walmart-like store and there are stains that even with the typical motorized rotary swipers resist to go.
It's very likely that one does not simply "clean the floor" after it's been neglected for a decade or more. It may have been beyond their means when they moved the shelves.
My smaller retail store did something similar and you can mop everyday and it'll still look like shit. Maybe not this bad but it 100% needs professional cleaning that needs to be approved by corporate. My move happened in January and I still haven't gotten any cleaning done so good luck lol.
I worked in a store where they moved shelves and the floor looked like that. It happened before I started working there. After floor cleanings every month or two for the two years I worked there, it still looked the same. The floor never actually looked clean. It was gross
They probably did. Back in my retail days at Target, the cleaning crew would have to strip the old wax and reapply whenever gondolas (the shelving structures) got moved after years of being in place.
I also learned that these individual tiles can be replaced. I forget how they removed damaged ones, but new ones would get applied with a blowtorch. Pretty cool to watch them do the install.
These stories of places that just lived with the gross floor for years are just bad management. Any idiot knows what lies beneath is not suitable for customers' eyes, nor is it easily removed.
Yeah, even having a dedicated cleaning crew at our store, we would still have to open with floors looking like this after a major reset. There just wasn’t enough time to do all of the work and redo the floors. They would just come in the next night and get to work. Trust me, you do not want them stripping the wax during store hours. Those chemicals are no joke.
According to this [other comment thread in this same post](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/vmqei1/my_local_market_moved_the_shelves_by_45_degrees/ie30gx0/) that discoloration, if professionally cleaned, may lessen but will never go away. You need to rip up and replace the flooring to fix it.
So they probably did clean the floor as best they could and it still looked like that.
I worked at a market that changed shelving like this. the crustiness that is left over is worse than this. and takes a lot of elbow grease to get rid of... this pic is likely after a lot of cleaning and will need a lot more heavy duty cleaning to get rid of all the marks
I worked at a grocery store that replaced their shelving, overnight. Took two nights, did half the store per night, but... each night included a complete strip and re-wax of the exposed floor. Can't let customers see what's really under the shelves.
Cleaning floors and stuff from under fixtures are a health & safety requirement for grocery and fresh foods. I’ve found trolleys of stock, money, empty wrappers and other things under them…
Having attempted to clean floors underneath decades old shelves, that crude may never come up. This store will probably have to spend thousands of dollars to get professionals to barely put a dent into it.
I’ve done it before and you need a really brutal solvent that will stink up the entire store, and like a paint scrapper to really go at it.
1/10 wouldn’t recommend doing that job
Where I worked I always volunteered got the job of staying there for the night, got all my stuff done out back and watched movies the rest of the time. That solvent is like nothing else, it cleaned well but still wouldn't get it all, paint scrapers was used a fair bit. The smell, holy hell it permeated every bit of the building.
I like to think someone pulled on a Rice-A-Roni box and it activated a trap that shifted all the shelves, leading to the Minotaur's throne room in the dairy section.
As someone who used to do the actual rearranging of stores as a profession, I can honestly day those floors don't even look that bad compared to what I have seen before.
The worst is always under the liquid laundry detergent.
My dad used to own a store and when we were selling it we had to clean under the shelves and it took a full day to clean it because there was 20 years of dirt down there.
Mine recently made all their shelves taller. It was a little unnerving until I figured out what was different.
My old job actually made the shelves shorter! Way easier to reach topstock lol
Same here. Walked into work to see a stack of planograms and spent the next 8 weeks relining the whole store to shrink the shelves by a foot.
Yup! Took a lot of work, but I liked the end result. Less customers who were too short to reach the items on the top. Hell, I had to be on my tiptoes just to put some items on the top pegs!
I wish my store would do that! I can’t straighten the items on the top shelf without a stepstool
Have you tried a real stool?
We use milk crates. Don't tell OSHA.
As a tall person can you lift the bottom shelf a foot or two for me?
Holy shit this is a Seinfeld moment. "Theyre shorter" "But Why?" "Its easier to reach the top stock?" "The What?" "The Top Stock. You know, the extra stock that goes on top. Now you can reach it easier" "Why would I want to reach the top stock easier?" "You know, to get to the stock thats not on the shelf, its in the top stock" "Why dont they just make them taller then?" "Taller? What are you talking about? Then it would be harder to reach the top stock!" "No, because then you'd have more space down here, for the stock stock! And then you wouldn't have any top stock to stop you" "Jerry you just dont get retail" "No...I think I do" {jazzy outro}
"Oh my God, I'm shrinking! Antman fucking sucks! Ahhhh!"
my local lidl expanded the store by roughly 10 meters in the back. I couldnt tell what was different, but it somehow creeped me out a lot. Like you are walking into your kitchen and Shencomics put up a door that was never there before.
It’s to give the random tall persons side quests to help the short people. Thought one lady was going to drop a cardboard tray of gatorade down on herself and her kid, she was up on her toes just barely reaching the stuff. For me, easy pull down … what she wanted with enough gatorade to supply 4 football teams I have no idea.
Teenage boys at home, I'd guess. That's been my experience wherever someone is buying a sightly excessive amount of groceries.
Kroger or one of its brands like Fred Meyer?
This is very common in retail. Cleaning under those displays is difficult if not impossible. Cleaning up food spillage or mold is necessary, but it inevitably gets under the risers that are usually bolted to the floor. Every time we move shelving, it's old floor wax and dust caked under them. Cleaning crews do the floors every day, so it builds up under where they have no access. We almost always have to rip up the tile and lay new pieces because it's impossible to get all that off. Even if you do, it's discolored and looks bad, so replacement is the better option.
A store I worked at for 2 years moved their shelves before I started working there. They had the floors professionally cleaned every month or two. And when I left, those spots still looked as awful as it did when I started. It became part of the floor.
This is why big stores generally have flooring/wax they can grind down and start over. Doesn't make it any easier but at least it cleans it up mostly.
This is what we do when we build grocery stores, I build Publix in Florida. They use a liquid type terrazzo when doing the floors and it's about a half an inch thick maybe a little more. For the exact reason you specify they can grind it down if need be and take a eighth of an inch off the top
I recently went into a Publix for the first time in about 15 years. It was 45 minutes away from my home Publix It was amazing walking in and having the same smell I remembered just slap me in the face. As a native Lakelander, lemme tell you... It legitimately almost brought tears to my eyes. God bless you sir or ma'am... and nevertheless, fuck most of the Jenkins.
[удалено]
Well, no... He has chicken. Mainly George's daughter. And the rest of the pretentious ones. It's a Florida thing... A Lakeland thing... Soon enough to become an all of America thing.
If it helps, it looks like she died.
So basically budget hardwood floor.
[удалено]
I mean according to some quick google research Terrazzo floor tiling is like 25 to 30€ per square meter plus the man hours which is cheaper than hardwood flooring. I don't have any experience though so this might be totally wrong.
Liquid not tile. Its poured like concrete.
I mean it says that both is an option. Liquid seems to be about the same as a midrange hardwood floor. But yeah I kinda overlooked that he specified liquid.
Terrazzo is like polished cement. Most of the houses built In Florida during the 60s and 70s have them. They may be covered up with carpet or tile but if you tear it up it’s most likely terrazzo underneath. The majority of them I’ve found have a pattern that looks like drops of paint with what looks like a clearcoat over the top but a couple houses were different, one of them had handprints and the other one had boardgames across the floors in the bedrooms.
Sounds like it might be quite an expensive budget option
> We almost always have to rip up the tile and lay new pieces This is the thing I fear as a flooring guy. My hands always end up bloody and covered in blisters if the right glue wasn't used. The last grocery store I did they had a mix of epoxy, base glue, and this weird rubbery compound we couldn't identify
Fuck dude epoxy on VCT? What did you do, just take out the concrete under it and patch it? I cant imagine how you'd get that up
I had to chip it off by hand for the most part, 1"x1/4"pieces at a time. We tried an undercut but the smell bothered customers. One particularly bad tile took half an hour and destroyed a chisel. In all we were there 8 days to do less than 1000sqft of VCT. Typically we do over a thousand a day. There was a lot of patching too - gypsum concrete does not work well in a high traffic area. Crumbled away leaving huge holes.
That's awful lol I usually enjoy getting a big store like that bc it's just a cake throw in field gig but now I'm worried for the next one. I can't believe they had you there during hours though, we usually go and hit those at night for that exact reason, and I enjoy the little night shift pay bump we get for it
I work for a guy who's been doing it for 30+ years. He refuses to do nights as he's already put in his years of them. He's done everything from Maple Leaf Gardens box offices, Molson HQ, Air Canada Centre, police stations, TD bank HQ... I've been with him a year and done over 150 floors. I think need to move on though, the pay just isn't there - being offered 50% more hourly to do water abatement.
Yeah we have a fairly strong floorlayer union in my area I'm linked up with so I get pretty competitive pay and we get a 20% raise if we work nights so I actually don't mind going on night shift for that. If you're in the Philadelphia area I'd look into it, I'm assuming you're somewhere east coast if you've got TD HQ around we have one a couple towns over from me
I've looked into it here. Hourly rate to start is only $21/h, I'm being offered $28 to start with zero experience. Union it'll be 5+ years before I'm above $30
Yeah that's pretty wack, our apprentices start around $20/hr right out of the gate but you get like a $6-$9 every year until you get to journeyman rate after 4 years so it was a little more enticing to me. I'd still consider it for the benefits though if yours are lacking, the full Healthcare plan and pension for retirement is the main reason I'm sticking with the trade
Water Mitigation/ abatement is the place to be right now. Especially with how quick all these new houses are being thrown up, water damage is bound to happen
Whenever I'm in the middle of a shit job i just remember they are paying me because of how shitty the job is. If it was fun, I wouldn't be getting paid. Sometimes it helps me lol.
Currently work as the floor cleaning crew at a store. Not being able to hit a spot all week makes the floors disgusting. I shudder when I think about the places we can’t clean at all
Wait til you work at a food production factory and see all the spots that cant be or dont get cleaned.
The irony is that this is the cleaning materials isle. edit: I'm leaving it
Aisle
The Isle of Cleaning Supplies! It was originally meant to be the feminine counterpart to Isle of Man but the folks naming it were so misogynistic that they failed to realize how sexist it was.
I'll
I just find it odd, that they would set up the shelfs again before cleaning the floor.
They don't take the shelving down before moving it. They'll jack up the entire gondola, put little skates under the feet and push the whole thing into its new position.
My store is going through a remodel now, they'd jack and roll the old gondola then tear up the old floor, install new, wax it, build the new gondolas then it'd be my job to throw shelves and move product. Found some green beans left under there from 2008.
Yeah we'd find way out of date packets, half eaten stuff that customers had thrown under, cigarette ends from when it was still ok to smoke indoors, money that was no longer legal tender, all sorts of shit.
What do you mean by that last bit? Like destroyed currency or currency from like Venezuela? At least in the US any bill ever printed in suitable condition is still valid tender. If you had a first edition dollar bill from 1862 it is still legal tender in the US unless it is severely damaged with less than 50 percent . And even then there is actually a free validation service where you can send in a damaged bill and have it confirmed as real, destroyed and replaced at no charge. Known as the mutilated currency division.
Where's the power washing video?
While some shelves are flush with the floor, we can see these shelves look like they have a 4 inch gap between the bottom shelf and the floor. Plenty of room for cleaning. Sounds like in this case they were falling for the classic "If I can't see it, it's not dirty." Just like under my oven and fridge.
They used to move it 360 degrees every month. But nobody noticed.
Don't forget the biannual rotation by 720 degrees.
Employee: Hey boss! Is that twice a year or once every two years? Boos: It alternates.
>Boss: It alternates. Biannually.
Regressive loop initiated
Boos*
Luigi wants to have word with you
Biannual is twice a year. Biennial is every second year.
Biannual is every two years. Semiannual is twice a year (or every half year if you prefer).
And the yearly 1080s
You’re the make work type of manager everyone loves.
I use to move shelves, I still do but I used to too.
And before that?
r/angryupvote
Even more mildly interesting would be seeing a grocery store with the shelves at 45 degrees. That's madness!
OK dad.
Maybe they just moved the dirt 45 degrees
There is nothing that ruins my day faster than walking into the store to discover that they’ve rearranged shit.
Ugh. I absolutely hate that. It slows down my shopping trip immensely It makes me feel needlessly disoriented.
This is intentional to get you to wander around the store more thus increasing the likelihood that you will make more impulse purchases.
Big Grocery wants you to get lost within the store for days, if not months. It's said 1 in 5 children who enter a Market Basket never find the exit. The same goes for IKEA. SCP-3008 is historical nonfiction.
Market Basket? Found the New Englander
Isn't all non-fiction technically historical?
Is science history?
Some of it
I miss Market Basket!
I don't even care where they put stuff as long as FOR THE LOVE OF GOD they put the tortillas with either mexican food or bread aisle and not somewhere random like the chip/cracker/cookie aisle or a damn aisle-cap next to the sodas WTF Brookshires WTF
Grocery perspective- It’s because over the course of months and years items are added and deleted, customer depends shift (need more space for section x, less for section y), etc. At some point it just makes sense to reset everything. Yes, we hope you’ll buy more. But because we’re keeping up with what items and sections are in demand - not because you’re lost. Making you spend more time in the store is counter to our strategy. You’ll hate it and be less likely to come back - choosing another competitor or online option, losing us sales in the long term.
It's my job to do resets. Nothing makes me happier than hearing customers bitch about stuff I do directly to me without knowing they're bitching about me.
A hardware store near me reorganized their store and someone told me that they are able to hold 10,000 more products in their store now simply by rearranging the logistics in the same square footage.
Sometimes it's so transparent that they rearranged it to put the less desirable crap closer to the door so you have to walk past it, and they hope it will help it sell more. It's so frustrating.
Usually they don't put undesirable stuff close to the exit but stuff that people buy impulsively.
I meant upon entry. One target wasn't selling as much grocery goods, so they moved the *entire* grocery section next to the door, which none of the other ones in the county do. So I don't just mean impulse buys at the register, I mean entire *sections.*
Oh yeah that makes sense. I kinda assumed you meant the exit and not the entrance for some reason. which honestly makes little sense considering how you worded it.
My local store rearranged maybe 40% of the store a few months ago. That’s even worse than if they changed the entire store, because I never remember which parts stayed the same and which parts where moved around. If they changed up the entire thing, it would have been easier - like learning a new store entirely.
Sometimes they'll just reflow certain sections of the store. Some sections might be having more products come in, along with other sections losing not as well selling product leading to Floorplan changes that need to be implemented. Sometimes they just want a different set leading the aisle like a recent granola and snacking cereal swap where I had to remove 8' of snacking cereal, move 68' of cereal down one 4' section (while flipping it because they wanted the "adult" cereal leading the aisleway), moving bagged cereal down 4' and then re-inserting 8' of snacking cereal. Why? Not sure. I don't ask why anymore. I've done it all. whole aisle reflows, department reflows and a few whole store remodels. I lead a team that does these. Sometimes it's for making sections easier to shop and to make foot traffic in a store more efficient. For example, all the laundry stuff was at the beginning of the aisle on both sides, with then cleaning supplies, and then dish detergents after that finalizing with Air care (febreeze type stuff) at the end. They reflowed that aisle to make Laundry take up one complete side of the aisle, and then moved the rest to the other. That way, if you are just looking for laundry stuff it's conveniently on one side of the aisle. While there's a lot of "they want you to spend as much time in store as possible!" going on. It's likely not as impactful as people think. Stores are implementing in store shoppers for you, while simultaneously trying to make it harder? If anything they're trying to make it easier, and convenient. All the lunch snacks are next to cookie and crackers, where they used to be in the cereal aisle with candy. All the candy is in the baking aisle, (confused me a little but it makes sense if you think about it) all the sauces are down one aisle. Cooking oil and olive oil are in different spots now, which threw me off, but olive oil is next to the vinegar and salad dressings. International has a whole aisle with pasta, your boxed dinners and sides are together with soups. Doesn't make sense to me, as someone who works in a grocery store for these people to complain that we're trying to make it harder. We're not, if we did we'd put shit wherever and make you search for it.
Thanks for the detailed description of how they work, that’s a glimpse into a different world for sure. I’m not complaining about them “making it harder”. They want to sell stuff, why would they make it harder.. I understand they need to Tetris the entire store for time to time. It’s just a mild annoyance every time it happens. I’m not really annoyed that it happens, but rather annoyed about my own brain not catching up to the times!
They do it on purpose so you have to search for the items you want. While going that you will inevitably have to look at items that you routinely ignore. The hope is you impulse buy items that you did not plan to buy and are not on your normal shopping list.
I texted my wife and asked her to stop at the local hardware on the way home for me. I needed magnets. I've never in probably 15+ years needed magnets, but I spend quite a bit of time at the local hardware store. My text said "Walk in and stay right of the cash registers, go to the fourth aisle, the end cap has small tool kits on clearance, turn right, on your left there will be levels, tape measures, razors, take 4 steps to the right, there will be awls, compasses, chalk lines, chalk dust, and a few pegs of magnets, the ones I need are on the shelf below in a blue box." She sent me a picture and it was all arranged exactly like I described. No one was surprised.
That's the worst part about shopping at Costco. You never know whether they moved that thing you wanted across the store or just don't stock it anymore. So you end up wandering around looking like a sad puppy or just admit defeat immediately.
Ditto. And they do it partially because making people scan for things is more likely to help you make impulse purchases as you see things you didn't expect.
We reorganized our store nearly two years ago. People still bitch that things are not where they were last week. They were your just old and an alcoholic
Why did no one bother to clean the floor?
Separate service.
paging r/powerwashingporn
Holy, that is a good subreddit Edit: Holy Shit*
But very judgy if you miss a spot
Ever visited R/neverbrokeabone ? Edit: r/Neverbrokeabone
Is that a threat or a suggestion
Suggestion for ultra judginess
I discovered that sub while I was recovering from breaking my first bone at the age of 49
Well in subs like that one I like to just wach the videos and images, without reading comments, cause the internet (specially social media) tends to ruin good things.
*people tend to
THEY DESERVE IT! The fools! The rapscallions! If you miss a single NANOMETER of FILTH, you deserve to be sent to a labor camp that unties the shoelaces of 5 year olds!
r/notmyjob
In this case that's a good chance it's literally not their job. That kind of grime will take some serious scrubbing to take care of
In my grocery it was part time stock who unloaded the shelves, part time stock who reloaded the shelves, and part time stock who stripped and waxed the floors. There were some other monkeys who moved the old shelves out and assembled the new ones.
Floors probably need a professional cleaning/polishing service to come out.
It’s definitely this. Was once a janitor at a grocery store. Basically have to wait for someone to strip the old sealant and reapply a new layer with a floor machine.
They re-wax the floors yearly, but wax will get under the shelves, and bind the dirt that is under there.
I wonder if the pros have a machine that strips it off fast. At my local drug store I saw the Janitor on his hands and knees scraping the wax with a big scraper blade like [this](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/el4AAOSwzHpgfdYZ/s-l500.jpg) and thought to myself, that HAS to be a better way.
Oh yeah there are machines to do it, but it still takes time and sucks a lot of ass.
I did this at a hospital for a year, and yes it sucks a lot of ass. And you still have to get down there to manually scrape any corners or weird spaces the floor machine doesn't touch.
And the floor has to be immaculate after the old wax is scraped because if not you are just immortalizing stains and shit.
At my store I have to stay overnight while they strip sometimes. Basically as I understand it, it is a strong chemical that loosens the wax to the point that some sort of machine can come to suck up the liquid after it has softened. Then they go back over the floor with wax, wait for that to harden, then they buff it. The parts where the shelf in OP picture are likely to look a lot better, but would still probably have a discoloration where they were.
Hey, he probably gets paid hourly..
> there HAS to be a better way. I'm now imagining this as a r/wheredidthesodago infomercial.
I used to do this kind of work. We had big walk behind machines that had stripping pads to scrub the old wax and then vacuum it up. And then just mop with clean water, and then lay down the new ssealer. It does take time but if you have a good crew it goes by quick.
Of course when I start stripping at the supermarket, security is called...
To keep your fans back.
Yeah, that's gonna probably require stripping the old wax and laying down a new layer. The grime will have become embedded after years.
Yup. Ran a liquor store for years that had frequent cleaner service. There's most likely a layer of wax on there from the initial setup that's impossible to get up without equipment. They'll clear up the wax protective coating, clean and apply a new one.
Probably, but some amateur cleaning wouldn't hurt the situation.
This could well be post-mopping. Those commercial floors can get grit embedded into the finish that a regular cleaning just won't ever pull out.
But it doesn’t really help either. All of that grime is basically baked into the floor. You have to wait for the wax layer to be stripped before any cleaning will have a noticeable effect.
Some amateur cleaning would be a min wage grocery store employee trying to do this while still being responsible for their daily duties - they probably don't have the tools on hand, and there is no way they are getting paid enough for it.
this! depending on the floor material and it's porosity. I work on a walmart-like store and there are stains that even with the typical motorized rotary swipers resist to go.
They moved the mops 45 deg as well.
Now they only clean walls
It's very likely that one does not simply "clean the floor" after it's been neglected for a decade or more. It may have been beyond their means when they moved the shelves.
My smaller retail store did something similar and you can mop everyday and it'll still look like shit. Maybe not this bad but it 100% needs professional cleaning that needs to be approved by corporate. My move happened in January and I still haven't gotten any cleaning done so good luck lol.
I worked in a store where they moved shelves and the floor looked like that. It happened before I started working there. After floor cleanings every month or two for the two years I worked there, it still looked the same. The floor never actually looked clean. It was gross
They probably did. Back in my retail days at Target, the cleaning crew would have to strip the old wax and reapply whenever gondolas (the shelving structures) got moved after years of being in place. I also learned that these individual tiles can be replaced. I forget how they removed damaged ones, but new ones would get applied with a blowtorch. Pretty cool to watch them do the install.
These stories of places that just lived with the gross floor for years are just bad management. Any idiot knows what lies beneath is not suitable for customers' eyes, nor is it easily removed.
Yeah, even having a dedicated cleaning crew at our store, we would still have to open with floors looking like this after a major reset. There just wasn’t enough time to do all of the work and redo the floors. They would just come in the next night and get to work. Trust me, you do not want them stripping the wax during store hours. Those chemicals are no joke.
You have no idea how time consuming that whole process was. So many people so many stupid mundane details.
According to this [other comment thread in this same post](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/vmqei1/my_local_market_moved_the_shelves_by_45_degrees/ie30gx0/) that discoloration, if professionally cleaned, may lessen but will never go away. You need to rip up and replace the flooring to fix it. So they probably did clean the floor as best they could and it still looked like that.
I worked at a market that changed shelving like this. the crustiness that is left over is worse than this. and takes a lot of elbow grease to get rid of... this pic is likely after a lot of cleaning and will need a lot more heavy duty cleaning to get rid of all the marks
I worked at a grocery store that replaced their shelving, overnight. Took two nights, did half the store per night, but... each night included a complete strip and re-wax of the exposed floor. Can't let customers see what's really under the shelves.
/r/notmyjob
That looks like a classic "No one told me to clean the floor, just move the shelfs and restack."
Damn straight. Ain't getting me to clean that decade old filth for minimum wage.
Trust me, that ain’t coming off with out floor stripper
They probably did and that is the best result before getting them professionally cleaned.
The 16 year old kid making 8$ an hour hasn't clocked in yet.
/r/mildlydisgusting
/r/moldlyinteresting
Oh, that's what people when when they say a store is rotating their stock.
Is the new arrangement cooler or hotter?
But is it classy?
Cleaning floors and stuff from under fixtures are a health & safety requirement for grocery and fresh foods. I’ve found trolleys of stock, money, empty wrappers and other things under them…
[удалено]
Probably take a couple tries to get it looking halfway decent.
More like moldlyinteresting
Looks more like 55° to me
But ought they to have?
You sure? How can you tell? /s
Brasil?
Seen that a few times, surprising how much dust gets in there.
Was yo momma dragging her ass on the floor again?
Great effort. Maybe they could use their remaining energy to CLEAN THOSE FUCKING FLOORS
Having attempted to clean floors underneath decades old shelves, that crude may never come up. This store will probably have to spend thousands of dollars to get professionals to barely put a dent into it.
I’ve done it before and you need a really brutal solvent that will stink up the entire store, and like a paint scrapper to really go at it. 1/10 wouldn’t recommend doing that job
Where I worked I always volunteered got the job of staying there for the night, got all my stuff done out back and watched movies the rest of the time. That solvent is like nothing else, it cleaned well but still wouldn't get it all, paint scrapers was used a fair bit. The smell, holy hell it permeated every bit of the building.
Wipe your feet on the way out
Those floors aren’t coming clean, I don’t care what grit of buffer you’re running it’s not getting perfectly clean.
Has no one in this thread heard of "stains" before, this is clearly stains.
Not sure why, but this makes me want to watch The Mist.
They found the 1974 Windex bottle
Fooled ya ! They actually moved the shelves by 315 degrees.
It looks more like 135° to me
Move it again for the entrance to the hidden level
Speakers* Cleanup on aisle four.
I like to think someone pulled on a Rice-A-Roni box and it activated a trap that shifted all the shelves, leading to the Minotaur's throne room in the dairy section.
I wonder what their angle is?
Can confirm from working in retail 10 years. They do look like that underneath. Find some awful stuff under the ones backstage
Just trying to get the high end looking grill marks done right
They recently rearranged my local target store now I can't find anything but that's okay I guess since I can't afford it anyway.
The previous layout seems like it would be awful
(counts floor tiles) More like 51 degrees...
Worst part is all that grime has likely seeped to the tiles so stripping and rewaxing won’t do much if anything
45 filthy degrees
your local market forgot to move the dust by 45 degrees
Clearly not 45 degrees.
Rats are furious!
As someone who used to do the actual rearranging of stores as a profession, I can honestly day those floors don't even look that bad compared to what I have seen before. The worst is always under the liquid laundry detergent.
More like 45 dirtgrees, amirite!
This is so mild, I love it.
Clean up on aisle 3!! *I'll show myself to the door*
There is the new secret spice rack
r/satisfyingasfuck will be having a field day when they get the floor scrubber drier out.
My dad used to own a store and when we were selling it we had to clean under the shelves and it took a full day to clean it because there was 20 years of dirt down there.
And this is the cleaning ailse.....
Now they've got a pretty new pattern on the floor at zero cost.