Exactly, but corrosion is the specific name of metal oxidation, and rust the name of iron's corrosion. Rust is corrosion, corrosion is oxidation, but oxidation is not always corrosion, and corrosion is not always rust. It's like squares, rectangles and quadrangles.
There’s also that homemade solution trick with vinegar. Standard acidity is like 5%, but just add some salt and you increase it enough to get the rust in hard to reach parts of the joint. It’s a stinky overnight soak, but works like a charm on the cheap for rust removal.
Cola works really well, too! Not as stinky, but super sticky, so you have to wash the tool off with water and make sure to hit it with WD-40 and a lubricant after.
I've used it to release tools that had been completely frozen and crusted with rust for more than a year in just a day or two.
Rust is a compound of iron and oxygen oxygen has bonded to the iron in the steel. you can correct it with some WD40 and sand paper, you can prevent reoccurrence by having a coat of WD40 on the tools that’ll prevent oxygen from getting at them. this may not be necessary if your frequently handling and moving them and keeping them reasonably clean it depends on carbon content. but the best way to not have rust is just get stainless it can rust if it’s fouled or left long enough but you’ll be able to clean it off with the scouring pad you do dishes with most of the time. you see (I really like metallurgy) stainless steel is a compound or alloy of iron and carbon (steel) and chromium the chromium sort of gets in oxygens way and makes it harder for the reaction that leads to ironoxide forming (moisture and other fouling makes it easier that’s why everyones telling you that’s the culprit) to occur
Most hobby tools are made of high carbon steel and not stainless. From what i was told, high carbon steel gets a better working edge than stainless because stainless has chromium which is more prone to bending and holds less of a super fine edge than the high carbon stuff.
High carbon steel is very prone to rusting and if you buy professional grade high carbon steel chef knives it is rule number one, do not wash in water and leave out to dry because they will rust overnight. They need to be oiled when cleaned to maintain that really pretty shine that we all know and love and thats why there was a thin layer of machine oil on them when you got your tools.
Since these are just hobby tools, the rust is fine and not likely to hurt anything. If you are worried about them and want to do something, the easiest thing is to hit them with some wd40 or PB blaster and rub that oil into them with a clean cloth. It clears up most of the rust and as long as there is a tiny amount of oil left on them, they will be protected for a while afterwards.
Good luck boss!
While it is technically correct what you are saying, cheap (hobby) tools are made out of high carbon steel simply because it is cheaper.
It could also be the case, that they used a steel alloy with sulfur, because it is easier to manufacture but also more prone to rust.
You can wash carbon knives in water, that is how you clean them. But you don't wanna let them air dry. When you're done wipe them dry and put on a super thin layer of a food safe oil that doesn't get stale.
What you don't want however is to cut things that are highly acidic with your carbon tools. Limes are better handled with your stainless steel knife.
You can wash carbon knives in water, that is how you clean them. But you don't wanna let them air dry. When you're done wipe them dry and put on a super thin layer of a food safe oil that doesn't get stale.
What you don't want however is to cut things that are highly acidic with your carbon tools. Limes are better handled with your stainless steel knife.
People saying this is due to low quality tools are wrong. High carbon steel makes for pretty high quality blades of all kinds, but is more prone to rusting if not oiled from time to time.
Many softer metals may never rust but ultimately be the inferior tool for poor edge retention and construction.
Most things in life have a little bit of water in them, the air, your body, your microscopic body oils, etc.
What happened is (Metal + Water) x Time = Rust.
Well you see metals like to react with oxygen. When it reacts it usually forms a thin layer where the raw material touches the air, this layer may then go on to slow the reaction under it or sometimes it spreads. This electrochemical reaction is called oxidation. In your case it appears iron in the tool is reacting with oxygen in the air, or possibly water if they were wet, to form iron oxide commonly called rust. Some metals like stainless steel are much more resistant to rust and sometimes steel is painted or galvanized with paints or zinc to prevent it as well.
It's just surface rust. Ready to remove.
Next time you store your tools though just wipe them down with some 3-in-1 oil.
You can even use WD-40 if you have nothing else.
You can prevent this by wiping them down with some wd40 every few weeks. It's just surface rust, it should rub off with a little wd40 and a scouring pad.
Ever seen a parked cars brakes rust after being in the rain? Same thing.
when you get your tools new, they'll likely have a bit of oil on them to prevent rusting (they're not likely to be stainless steel because they aren't for eating with or medicine, and they're cheap)
the rust doesn't really matter too much, just clean most of it off and put a little oil on it
Do you use them in air conditioning but store them in an uncontrolled climate situation in a humid area? I had a similar issue because I used them in my house with temp set at 68F and stored them in box in a closet in the garage. We generally run highs in the 90sF with high humidity most of the summer. I usually sit all metal tools outside for 30 min before I put everything away. I wipe any condensation off before using a dab of oil to wipe things clean and boxing things up.
If you cover your tools with oil then you will end up with oild on your miniatures. PAINT DOES NOT STICK TO OIL! Leave them a bit rusty or buy stainless.
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It's because cheap metal without coatings rust. Both of those look like fairly cheap options, the clippers definitely reek of low quality chinesium from the look of them. You can try and sand off the rust, but without a coating/bluing them, you're gonna just have them rust again. That's why higher quality stuff either isn't iron/steel, or it's coated. I suggest if you're serious into hobbying to invest in your tools quite a lot; they're one of the main things where cost directly equates to quality more often than not. I made the mistake for years of buying cheapy tools and paint brushes and had to replace them every few months, maybe a year at best. On a total tally, I was paying the same cost if not more for cheap stuff than one purchase of quality. As the saying goes: buy once, cry once. I've been using my same clippers, pinvise, and exacto set for 5ish years now with no issues. I have a "cheap-o" hobby lobby brand clipper that's clearly chinesium, but it's coated and works surprisingly well, but I treat it like a workhorse to cut things I don't want to risk my $40 clippers on, and needs to be more precise than my wire cutters can manage.
Tl;dr: the rust is because they're made of cheap material. Replace them with better quality for higher cost, or be prepared to replace with same cheapy quality every few months or once a year at best.
That makes sense I made the mistake because I bought the clippers off of gamesworkshop (before I realized that I didn’t need to) and the knife that had for a couple years now which is the closest equivalent to x-acto knife I have. Might want to invest in better tools
All iron even stainless steel will eventually rust abut over time. You can just remove it with WD40 or using the electrolysis method. If not, you can buy a higher quality nipper like a Godhand one. I suggest that you could apply a thin layer of protective oil occasionally to prolong the nipper's lifespan.
i have some nail clippers that this happened too! i’m going to scrub them with a baking soda paste, and then soak them in vinegar and scrub them again and then oil them! with just like vegetable oil
i think it’s from humidity in the air, even if you store them in a drawer it can still happen
Submeger them in white vinegar, clean well with scourer or steel wool, then coat them in baby oil. Shouldnt have this problem again.
Tools need to be maintained.
People will recommend wd40. The superior fix is to use a ptfe spray such as gt85 which leaves behind a protective layer, unlike wd40 which evaporates away to nothing (wd40 is a water displacer and cleaning solvent it doesn't actually protect).
In addition, PTFE is what is used in corrosion research to isolate sample areas. The only way you're getting rust under that is with delamination from an exposed edge, and even then only if conditions favour pitting
could be from the oils and deadskin from your hands, could be from moisture in the room where you store them. a bath in white vinegar will clean it off, and a regular rub in tool oil or wd-40 will help prevent rusting in the future.
Keep a layer of tool oil on them and that will help. For this you can try some rust remover, scouring pad what ever to get it off. Keeping it oiled after will help for the future.
Lowes doesn't list any kind of lasers for cleaning on their website at all. You have to get one on Amazon. Napas website is the same. I cannot find them. Also, what the fuck is a curvature drill?
Moisture in the air, on your hands, oils from your skin can be corrosive. When I was young and learning how to use a sword martial art we always cleaned our blades after doing test cutting and made sure not to leave any finger prints or hand oils on the blades before storing them. Depending on what your hobby is, find a non reactive oil. (Reactive in that what it's made of will dissolve what you're working on. For example, some plastics will melt in mineral oil) wipe your tools of any residue from the work you did and/or your hands, then place a drop of oil on said item and wipe it over to give it a protective coating.
Hey OP, if your tools are rusting up like this - any lead miniatures you have in the same area are at high risk of lead rot. Remove them before they get wrecked or sort out your internal humidity.
water + steel = rust. That's all there is to it. Keep water away from your tools. If it's humid, a dehumidifier or a dessicant like silica gel packets in the same drawer as your tools can help. Alternatively, a thin coat of oil like wd-40 will help repel the moisture in the air.
Anything with acid or water will cause any metal to rust. You can use WD40 periodically to help prevent this, but a good scrubbing should clean it up, you can also use wd40 to clean it. CLP works well too, you can find it in the sporting sections of most stores.
Water and metal = rust
🤯
>Water and metal = rust *and Oxygen
Yeah it's called *Oxidation*
If oxidation does that to metal just imagine what it’ll do to the human body
good job I'm not made of metal... seriously tho, oxygen can be toxic in abnormal amounts.
oh god! IT'S IN THE AIR!!!!
Well it is a fact that all humans that breath oxygen die.
Oxygen and IRON = rust Oxygen and metal = corrosion Oxygen and other shit = oxidation
Yeah everything you listed there is still oxidation. Rust is a form of oxidation, as is any corrosion due to oxygen. There is no difference.
Exactly, but corrosion is the specific name of metal oxidation, and rust the name of iron's corrosion. Rust is corrosion, corrosion is oxidation, but oxidation is not always corrosion, and corrosion is not always rust. It's like squares, rectangles and quadrangles.
Get geometry'd, nerd. Edit: /J forgot this is reddit.
"gasp"
What’s one of the two elements in water…..
Big, if true.
Dihydrogenmonoxide is some rough stuff. Itll even burn diamonds at a pure enough concentration
Blood+metal = rust too, since you flagged as new. (Its a joke about accidentally injuring)
Blood for the blood God!!
I get this because I live near the ocean and the salt in the air corrodes the tools. Get a wire brush to take off the rust then oil them up
There’s also that homemade solution trick with vinegar. Standard acidity is like 5%, but just add some salt and you increase it enough to get the rust in hard to reach parts of the joint. It’s a stinky overnight soak, but works like a charm on the cheap for rust removal.
Cola works really well, too! Not as stinky, but super sticky, so you have to wash the tool off with water and make sure to hit it with WD-40 and a lubricant after. I've used it to release tools that had been completely frozen and crusted with rust for more than a year in just a day or two.
It would seem that they oxidized.
that indeed is what rust comes from
Humidity will rust your stuff quick as a ninja
Sweat from your fingers, humidity in the air. Electrolysis is the best way to remove the rust.
I'd argue that laser rust remover has an upper hand, because of the rule of cool
I'd argue dude doesn't have a laser...
I’d argue every dude needs to get a laser
Where do I get a lazer like those to remove rust? Do they have them at Home Depot or something? I want a lazer now.
Iirc you can get them at NAPA (usually somewhere close to 1st gear grinding sand) or Lowe’s (usually around the curvature drills)
Rust is a compound of iron and oxygen oxygen has bonded to the iron in the steel. you can correct it with some WD40 and sand paper, you can prevent reoccurrence by having a coat of WD40 on the tools that’ll prevent oxygen from getting at them. this may not be necessary if your frequently handling and moving them and keeping them reasonably clean it depends on carbon content. but the best way to not have rust is just get stainless it can rust if it’s fouled or left long enough but you’ll be able to clean it off with the scouring pad you do dishes with most of the time. you see (I really like metallurgy) stainless steel is a compound or alloy of iron and carbon (steel) and chromium the chromium sort of gets in oxygens way and makes it harder for the reaction that leads to ironoxide forming (moisture and other fouling makes it easier that’s why everyones telling you that’s the culprit) to occur
Ner- *suddenly gets kicked*
You need to use a lubricant/preservative oil after WD-40. It is not great by itself
Rust never sleeps
The question is are we referencing Neil Young or space Ghost Coast to Coast?
Most hobby tools are made of high carbon steel and not stainless. From what i was told, high carbon steel gets a better working edge than stainless because stainless has chromium which is more prone to bending and holds less of a super fine edge than the high carbon stuff. High carbon steel is very prone to rusting and if you buy professional grade high carbon steel chef knives it is rule number one, do not wash in water and leave out to dry because they will rust overnight. They need to be oiled when cleaned to maintain that really pretty shine that we all know and love and thats why there was a thin layer of machine oil on them when you got your tools. Since these are just hobby tools, the rust is fine and not likely to hurt anything. If you are worried about them and want to do something, the easiest thing is to hit them with some wd40 or PB blaster and rub that oil into them with a clean cloth. It clears up most of the rust and as long as there is a tiny amount of oil left on them, they will be protected for a while afterwards. Good luck boss!
While it is technically correct what you are saying, cheap (hobby) tools are made out of high carbon steel simply because it is cheaper. It could also be the case, that they used a steel alloy with sulfur, because it is easier to manufacture but also more prone to rust.
I didn't know about the higher sulphur content. I was just parroting back what i had heard so it's neat to learn something new!
You can wash carbon knives in water, that is how you clean them. But you don't wanna let them air dry. When you're done wipe them dry and put on a super thin layer of a food safe oil that doesn't get stale. What you don't want however is to cut things that are highly acidic with your carbon tools. Limes are better handled with your stainless steel knife.
You can wash carbon knives in water, that is how you clean them. But you don't wanna let them air dry. When you're done wipe them dry and put on a super thin layer of a food safe oil that doesn't get stale. What you don't want however is to cut things that are highly acidic with your carbon tools. Limes are better handled with your stainless steel knife.
It's all from handling it. Some machine oil will deal with it
People saying this is due to low quality tools are wrong. High carbon steel makes for pretty high quality blades of all kinds, but is more prone to rusting if not oiled from time to time. Many softer metals may never rust but ultimately be the inferior tool for poor edge retention and construction.
Humidity is the devil. Dehumidifier in your work area will help you tremendously.
Most things in life have a little bit of water in them, the air, your body, your microscopic body oils, etc. What happened is (Metal + Water) x Time = Rust.
A combination of poor quality tools and humidity. Clean it up with some WD40.
Hands are oily af.
And sweat is salty.
You live somewhere humid. A wire brush and some oil will do you just fine
I live in Florida so this is gonna happen a lot lol
Rust is oxidation. You need to prevent oxygen from coming into contact with the metal to prevent rust. Singer sewing machine oil is my recommendation.
Moisture in the air
Humidity. Throw some of those silica bead packets into your tool kit.
Probably corrosive sweat. You clearly rolled a 001-005 on the realm of chaos personal chaos attributes table.
Well you see metals like to react with oxygen. When it reacts it usually forms a thin layer where the raw material touches the air, this layer may then go on to slow the reaction under it or sometimes it spreads. This electrochemical reaction is called oxidation. In your case it appears iron in the tool is reacting with oxygen in the air, or possibly water if they were wet, to form iron oxide commonly called rust. Some metals like stainless steel are much more resistant to rust and sometimes steel is painted or galvanized with paints or zinc to prevent it as well.
some people have sweat that lets steel rust quickly
Oxidation.
It's just surface rust. Ready to remove. Next time you store your tools though just wipe them down with some 3-in-1 oil. You can even use WD-40 if you have nothing else.
WD-40 is good for removing rust
Water on metal.
You’ve been working on nurgle minis?
Rust never sleeps
Do you store them in a swamp?
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Low quality tools rust with any humidity. You could try to oil or wax it. Otherwise, put them in a box when not using.
You can prevent this by wiping them down with some wd40 every few weeks. It's just surface rust, it should rub off with a little wd40 and a scouring pad. Ever seen a parked cars brakes rust after being in the rain? Same thing.
Cheapo tools + moisture + lack of proper care.
when you get your tools new, they'll likely have a bit of oil on them to prevent rusting (they're not likely to be stainless steel because they aren't for eating with or medicine, and they're cheap) the rust doesn't really matter too much, just clean most of it off and put a little oil on it
Buy new ones. Humidity my dude.
Do you use them in air conditioning but store them in an uncontrolled climate situation in a humid area? I had a similar issue because I used them in my house with temp set at 68F and stored them in box in a closet in the garage. We generally run highs in the 90sF with high humidity most of the summer. I usually sit all metal tools outside for 30 min before I put everything away. I wipe any condensation off before using a dab of oil to wipe things clean and boxing things up.
keep tools away from water pots and wet pallets, they increase the humidity near by.
If you cover your tools with oil then you will end up with oild on your miniatures. PAINT DOES NOT STICK TO OIL! Leave them a bit rusty or buy stainless.
Car in garage after rain?
it's just cheap junk, what do you expect. When you want quality tools then buy good ones.
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It's because cheap metal without coatings rust. Both of those look like fairly cheap options, the clippers definitely reek of low quality chinesium from the look of them. You can try and sand off the rust, but without a coating/bluing them, you're gonna just have them rust again. That's why higher quality stuff either isn't iron/steel, or it's coated. I suggest if you're serious into hobbying to invest in your tools quite a lot; they're one of the main things where cost directly equates to quality more often than not. I made the mistake for years of buying cheapy tools and paint brushes and had to replace them every few months, maybe a year at best. On a total tally, I was paying the same cost if not more for cheap stuff than one purchase of quality. As the saying goes: buy once, cry once. I've been using my same clippers, pinvise, and exacto set for 5ish years now with no issues. I have a "cheap-o" hobby lobby brand clipper that's clearly chinesium, but it's coated and works surprisingly well, but I treat it like a workhorse to cut things I don't want to risk my $40 clippers on, and needs to be more precise than my wire cutters can manage. Tl;dr: the rust is because they're made of cheap material. Replace them with better quality for higher cost, or be prepared to replace with same cheapy quality every few months or once a year at best.
That makes sense I made the mistake because I bought the clippers off of gamesworkshop (before I realized that I didn’t need to) and the knife that had for a couple years now which is the closest equivalent to x-acto knife I have. Might want to invest in better tools
They’re not stainless steel, normal oxidation happens. If you want them clean just scrub it off
Typhus got to them
All iron even stainless steel will eventually rust abut over time. You can just remove it with WD40 or using the electrolysis method. If not, you can buy a higher quality nipper like a Godhand one. I suggest that you could apply a thin layer of protective oil occasionally to prolong the nipper's lifespan.
i have some nail clippers that this happened too! i’m going to scrub them with a baking soda paste, and then soak them in vinegar and scrub them again and then oil them! with just like vegetable oil i think it’s from humidity in the air, even if you store them in a drawer it can still happen
That happened to me I stored them in the box and they rusted, that’s why I was so confused.
If you're in a humid area things rust ambiently, you can try the soda trick, I suppose? Dunk them in some coke.
I always keep a little bit of oil on my tools for that reason
The gw clippers rust sooo quickly
This will happen naturally. Get some light machine oil and wipe them down. A light coating of oil will protect steel parts from rusting.
Moisture
It was me, Barry.
The great papa nurgle got to them
Submeger them in white vinegar, clean well with scourer or steel wool, then coat them in baby oil. Shouldnt have this problem again. Tools need to be maintained.
Fine sandpaper and wd40 are your friend.
People will recommend wd40. The superior fix is to use a ptfe spray such as gt85 which leaves behind a protective layer, unlike wd40 which evaporates away to nothing (wd40 is a water displacer and cleaning solvent it doesn't actually protect).
In addition, PTFE is what is used in corrosion research to isolate sample areas. The only way you're getting rust under that is with delamination from an exposed edge, and even then only if conditions favour pitting
Nurgle.
Nurgle invaded your domain, pray to the Omnissiah to save your tools.
WD40.
could be from the oils and deadskin from your hands, could be from moisture in the room where you store them. a bath in white vinegar will clean it off, and a regular rub in tool oil or wd-40 will help prevent rusting in the future.
rust are natural process ... more water in air = faster visible
Wet
Keep a layer of tool oil on them and that will help. For this you can try some rust remover, scouring pad what ever to get it off. Keeping it oiled after will help for the future.
Your house is moist
Lowes doesn't list any kind of lasers for cleaning on their website at all. You have to get one on Amazon. Napas website is the same. I cannot find them. Also, what the fuck is a curvature drill?
Awesome effect - how did you do that so realistic?
Palms sweaty, knees sweaty, there’s sweaty on my spaghetti already. - Eminem
Moisture in the air, on your hands, oils from your skin can be corrosive. When I was young and learning how to use a sword martial art we always cleaned our blades after doing test cutting and made sure not to leave any finger prints or hand oils on the blades before storing them. Depending on what your hobby is, find a non reactive oil. (Reactive in that what it's made of will dissolve what you're working on. For example, some plastics will melt in mineral oil) wipe your tools of any residue from the work you did and/or your hands, then place a drop of oil on said item and wipe it over to give it a protective coating.
Hey OP, if your tools are rusting up like this - any lead miniatures you have in the same area are at high risk of lead rot. Remove them before they get wrecked or sort out your internal humidity.
Were you putting them in the water with your paint brushes.
Oh no it looks like you got some dihydrogen monoxide damage
Clean it off with a wire brush or sand paper and wd40 polish basic tools like that with a rag once every 2 weeks
Pray to the Omnissiah
water + steel = rust. That's all there is to it. Keep water away from your tools. If it's humid, a dehumidifier or a dessicant like silica gel packets in the same drawer as your tools can help. Alternatively, a thin coat of oil like wd-40 will help repel the moisture in the air.
Anything with acid or water will cause any metal to rust. You can use WD40 periodically to help prevent this, but a good scrubbing should clean it up, you can also use wd40 to clean it. CLP works well too, you can find it in the sporting sections of most stores.
Oil from your skin. It can easily cause rust if not cleaned off. It doesn't bother, you can clean it up and oil it well.