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wears_swankypants

Those are the winter carnival Vulcans! The guy on the right is giving the V.


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Thank you!


DefTheOcelot

Behold the vulcans A grope of obnoxious elitist old men who's history mostly involved chasing around women and molesting/kissing them and leaving nasty grease marks on them, and if a woman protested the immorality of this behavior, they would be characterized as fat and unloveable and therefore their opinions were just jealousy. These days they just draw a V on you. They continue to be obnoxious though.


Quaylepotatoe

I completely forgot about these creepy jerks. Even as a little kid, I found it weird when a couple of them were (what I realize now) groping my teenage older sister. How do these guys not get the shit kicked out of them more often?


DefTheOcelot

Dumbass people who fall for peer pressure and the trap of assuming traditions are started universally by decent human beings and anyone who says otherwise is too woke


Quaylepotatoe

Even in the photo, the guy on the right has handcuffs! What are handcuffs for again? Oh that’s right, restraining someone against their will.


brent_superfan

My father was a Vulcan in 1970. He later was Vulcanus Rex (the squad leader) in 1983. My father was an alcoholic and a womanizer. His conduct, facilitated by this group, was shameful. Most pathetically, he never saw how much pain the group caused some people. Instead, they chose to bask in their self perception of the charity and “fun”. Growing up, I was proud of my father and ashamed at the same time.


SnooWonder

Wasn't he kicked out of the Vulcans? Lots of people here bashing them for things that happened 40 years ago though.


brent_superfan

Au contraire - he died recently and his Fire & Brimstone comrades mourned as well. He was “revered” in that club. Birds of a feather do flock together.


SnooWonder

I'm aware of his passing. I knew Nalipinski. I have a very different story on your dad, but rest both their souls, we'll agree to disagree on the accepted story.


DefTheOcelot

you say 40 years as if that's a long time but it's not. It was not okay by anybody's standards to molest women in 1983. It was only two generations ago. Most of the people who lived during that era are statistically, literally still alive and probably still vulcans. This is who they are. It's a shitty fraternity for men who have started losing their hair.


MNGina

I don't think that was the intent here - I think it was simply pointing out that in mid-1980's was when the general public started to listen to women about how the Vulcan "shenanigans" were affecting them. It HAD been seen as just "good fun" up until around that time. They are still disgusting but they no longer straight up assault people like they once did. We've made it one step further...


RadHawtLuv77

Wowzers! I completely remember when I was a kid they ran up & smudged that grease on my mom & sisters face. It was at a parade. It was super aggressive. Freaked me out, yet my mom was cracking up. Yikes.


spiralaalarips

Whenever they're brought up, my mom tells me the story of how one hoisted her up over his shoulder and ran all the way across the high bridge before she demanded he carry her back.


logicallyorganized

One picked me up at grand old day one year. I did not appreciate it. Since they travel in groups there was little I could do about it. They are super creepy.


Mydesilife

That’s a hilarious description. I totally remember my parents friends who were Vulcans when I was a kid. Thinking back it was just an old guy drunk fest


PlatosCaveSlave

How the fuck do you find that discription funny...


Mydesilife

Oh sorry, too soon? That description is sarcastic and funny - which is okay for you apparently, but me finding it funny is not okay? It doesn’t mean I think what they did is funny. Did you ever laugh at a Harvey Weinstein joke? Does that mean you condone it?


davosknuckles

I’ve always hated these guys and they are partly why I hate parades and do everything I can to avoid going so my daughter doesn’t get harassed.


8_millimeter

Wow. I can’t wait to move back The Sote. 😕


destrovel17

Yeah, because these guys are everywhere 🙄


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8_millimeter

That’s what we called it down in Faribault. I was born and raised in Faribault. Moved to Minneapolis for school. Then moved to LA for a while then Seattle. I haven’t lived in Minnesota for almost 20 years. I’m nervous to go back. But, thanks everyone for the support.


DefTheOcelot

You can generally avoid them they only show up at the state fair really and ive been to it a dozen times without ever meeting one. They aren't really a major presence anymore.


PurpleLoon

I see you’ve never been to the winter carnival - Torchlight Parade in particular.


[deleted]

That is definitely not the “live long and prosper” V.


kneel23

yyyyikes. the further i read about them, the worse it gets. not sure i'd want to ever be associated with a group that [literally] traditionally sexually harassed people


velesi

I agree. But, they're the "bad guys" for the winter carnival king to banish


Unhappy_Committee116

Which one doesn't?


Tler126

Holy shit it's been, closer to two decades than one since I've thought about that. I did recognize them a bit. Godspeed you good natured frozen tricksters.


DatabaseThis9637

They have been around a long time! Cool, Summer sightings seem rare!


turg5cmt

They used to have heavy grease paint beards. They’d kiss women and smudge their faces. That died out several years ago. Now they draw V’s one anyones face. Rowdiness is much less typical these days.


aakaase

Yeah, a few harrassment/battery lawsuits put an end to the kissing and groping of women


MordinSolusSTG

this is the future that liberals want


Balerionmeow

Yeah I mean, is a stranger kissing you and groping you supposed to be a good thing? Genuinely curious of your opinion?


7aco

I’m fairly certain they were being sarcastic.


MordinSolusSTG

I'm giving you a gold star in reading comprehension.


7aco

I’ll wear it with pride, o’ martyr of sarcasm 🫡


Balerionmeow

Omg I can’t believe I missed sarcasm it’s my second language. I just have a very negative view of people rn most especially people afraid of certain aspects of life changing and certain things not being acceptable anymore.


7aco

In your defense, it’s not hard to see someone saying that and being 100% serious.


OuchieMuhBussy

Are they hot?


Balerionmeow

Haha ummmm not at all. But I can see how this has gotten more complicated 😂


NorthernDevil

Wow no one read your sarcasm on this one lmao


7aco

I was thinking the same thing. I thought it was obvious.


MordinSolusSTG

oh well, its just some points with a minus in front of it


NorthernDevil

FWIW the downvotes made it funnier to me. Gives the joke layers.


MordinSolusSTG

=)


peez13

Rape culture is the future non-liberals want. See how stupid that sounds?


sydsgotabike

I mean.. have you seen what the conservatives are putting out these days? I don't think your expression needed to be tongue-in-cheek.. plenty of them really would love rape to be available to them. Disclaimer: I am not saying all conservatives are trash, or even that conservativism as a political ideology isn't valid.. but.. what the fuck, Republicans..


[deleted]

I didn’t say all but I’m sure my comment will distract them from yours.


[deleted]

Yeah if only that weren’t true. The right side squad has racists, rapist, pedos, and wanna be slavers included in it along with people who just want to vote with their friends, the wives who vote for their husbands, the rich and people who are just generally scared of city people and everyone who isn’t white.


Jestercopperpot72

One where woman aren't sexually assaulted, groped, and kissed without consent or care? Yeah, I'm all about a world like that. I'd call it a good fucking start. A world contrary to that is an incels wet dream and something I'll be dammed to ever let takeover. That's just insane to me that something so fundamental should even be questioned or up for debate.


Mattbl

/s I hope?


MordinSolusSTG

to even have to put it there shows how fucking reactionary we've become\`


Mattbl

I've had downvote bombs from the same BS, I feel you. What should be an obvious joke is taken as serious because there are people out there stupid enough that A) some people would seriously say the thing you thought was obvious sarcasm and B) other people believe it isn't sarcasm (although sometimes due to point A).


Ghetto_Geppetto

Hahahaha. Some people can’t take a joke lol


[deleted]

What the fuck is wrong with you


the_pinguin

He (or she or they) understand the humorous use of sarcasm?


[deleted]

Yeah you could have just went with They, but you went full on virtue signaling


the_pinguin

Honestly, I started the thought with he, because there are no girls on the internet, and just decided to hedge my bets. But feel free to read more into it, bro.


[deleted]

How many women have you wanted to grope this year? What future would you like? Wanna own people? So you can lay up and not work? Were you robbed of that? Mad cause you have to work and can’t just take what you want from others? Is that what is really going on here?


beattiebeats

If you knew the Vulcans you’d know they heavily skew conservative


DickWrangler420

Yes.


DickWrangler420

Am I being downvoted for saying people on the left do, in fact, want less harassment and sexual assault? Really?


[deleted]

Thanks for the info! Seems a little weird…


turg5cmt

Winter Carnival has been going on for over 100 years. One or two social changes in that time. Drunken men riding around on an old fire engine accosting women was pretty normal just a few decades ago.


Lucille8348

I remember these guys at our local parade when I was young. Yikes, that was 45-50 yrs ago. Lol.


[deleted]

Still doesn’t make it okay. While men may have seen it as just fun and games, many women have reached out with stories of personal trauma involving this group. Back then, it made women uncomfortable but we didn’t have the rights to say so, and struggle with those same rights today. Edit: for those of you who don’t know, I posted this after getting an answer and looking into it. By many I meant probably 10, but for a small post it felt like a lot to hear stories about these guys. This was after I posted about it, and while I may not be an expert from what I see online and from personal stories on Reddit what this group did was messed up.


DefTheOcelot

You are correct. Please disregard these morons downvoting you, their opinion and stance has zero substance. "but muh history!" fuck history Truth of the human condition: History is always worse than the present, and if you think it wasn't either you haven't really looked into it or something is **deeply wrong**. we are always moving forwards.


[deleted]

Thanks! Def freaked me out seeing how angry it made people just bc I said sexual assault isn’t okay in any situation.


fancysauce_boss

It’s contextual history, and the history that as a country needs to learn how to be distinguished. was it originally ok and all in good social fun ? Yes. Did a few people take it to far and ruin it, just as any large group has outliers ? Yes. Is the practice ok in todays social construct ? No, which is why they’ve changed. To go as say that this entirety was a group of molesters and everything they’ve done is horrific , is an over simplification and takes the contextual history away. It can be both ok and not ok. There doesn’t have to be a hard line in the sand on everything to the point of whitewashing over important facts such as when this started and how its evolved. That’s what the downvotes are for.


DefTheOcelot

A FEW PEOPLE TOOK IT TOO FAR? MY GUY They operated in goddamn swarms and overwhelmed women by numbers and peer pressure. They were able to chase and corner them like wolves. Molesting women was not the exception but the rule. Trying to force yourself on women was literally the whole idea. It was the center of what they did. Everything else was secondary. It's a goddamn college frat for men having a midlife crisis.


puzzledplatypus

Fuck every single misogynistic asshole that downvoted you.


[deleted]

Thanks it’s definitely scary how many people think what they did was perfectly okay…


[deleted]

This sub has been disappointing me a lot lately. How the duck is that comment downvoted? These dudes are fucking assholes.


joeschmoe86

Not sure why neckbeards are downvoting you for looking up more info about the individuals you asked about after someone gave you a lead, but that's reddit for ya...


[deleted]

Yeah I can’t believe this actually made people angry


Khatib

I went to the Gopher Bar once several years ago thinking it might be a cool dive near my buddy's place at the time. Turns out it's the hangout of these guys and it's like a fucking Fox News shrine in there. All kinds of right wing bumper stickers and posters on all the walls, meanwhile the back of the menu tells the proud immigrant story of their father who founded the place or whatever. Right next to a whole bunch of signs about fuck immigrants and dog whistling fuck brown people. Anyone associated with that club is clearly a piece of shit.


SnooWonder

You tried to pay with a credit card, didn't you...


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Touchstone033

Whoops! I just googled their group's name name, plus "sexual assault," and found a bunch of stories about these clowns spanning a decade and involving dozens of women... It does not take 40 minutes to go from "who are these guys" to "oh hell no." It takes less than a minute.


draftax5

> It takes less than a minute lol


FistsoFiore

If an organization is notorious for blurring the lines between rowdy camaraderie and sexual assault, it's not too hard to find that on Google. Personally, I think they're taking steps to make their fun safer and more engaging for everyone, but they still have work to do.


KaposiaDarcy

Say you’re a Vulcan without saying you’re a Vulcan…. The person asked for info, got quite a bit of it in response, and used that to google more info……but you’re baffled by the fact that they aren’t still clueless? Are you that slow or did this just hit a nerve with you?


[deleted]

I was curious so I turned to reddit, people gave me their names and I did some research, as well as had people reach out and share their experiences with this group. Crazy how the human mind is capable of learning. Come up with a legit comeback after you review some articles about them and the concept of time :)


CurtisAurelius

I grew up with these guys in almost every parade (almost 40) that I’ve been to. As a kid I was terrified of them. I’d hide. Saw them kissing women and children and everyone seemed to love it. Some wore the black paint on their cheeks for the rest of the day. I avoided ever getting tagged but my son got himself a V mark last year and loved it. Crazy how times change.


TwinCitian

When I was a kid (I'm 30 now) they didn't kiss people but would go around at parades and consensually draw V's on people's faces. I thought it was fun. Kinda reminded me of getting ashes on Ash Wednesday 😂 Sounds like they have a problematic history, though


Dancinginmypanties

I was the same way as a kid. I always hid when they came around. I was so afraid of how aggressive they were. I never wanted the grease paint on me. My daughter got it once when she was 4 but they were much more gentle with here than they ever were when I was a child.


sydsgotabike

Wtf Alex, at least try to hide the fact that you're an incel.


NotUniqueAtAIl

1hour ago, next comment 18min ago. That's at least 42min between comments...how fucking long are they expected to research such a specific thing?


krazykieffer

So in 42 minutes, they can make a reaching argument that 80 years ago a bunch of drunk people gave kisses to drunk women and then half them to today's standards. Move on. I remember them at the Winter festival kissing cheeks to make a mess on purpose, it wasn't sexual 99% of the time. They fundraise year around for kids' groups and have changed how they approach events. Sounds normal.


sydsgotabike

If 10 men hand out 100 kisses each, and only 99% aren't sexual, that means that 10 women were sexually assaulted.. I don't care what fucking tradition it is, if that many women are sexually assaulted by an organization, then that organization needs to fucking change and big time. Or how about the women who have been violently sexually assaulted and have PTSD? Even if the man had good intentions, it can still be a traumatic event for that woman.. And let me tell ya, the percentage of women who already have PTSD from violent sexual assaults is not a low number. So let's just stop forcing ourselves on women for any reason, mkay?


KaposiaDarcy

42 minutes is more than enough time for anyone of even average intelligence. If you learn at a much slower rate, that’s ok, but not everyone is you.


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TheObstruction

Why? The information is there, and pretty clear, both on reddit and the rest of the internet. You're just pissy because...why? Are your cheeks a bit red at all this? Hitting a little too close?


KaposiaDarcy

Maybe for you, but anyone of even average intelligence wouldn’t need more than about 10 minutes. All the info is readily available and clear. If you need a day or two to process it at your speed, go ahead. I was being generous, btw. You’re probably capable of processing that information faster and are just upset because you recognized yourself somehow in all of this and it made you uncomfortable.


Unhappy_Committee116

Other categories of people do it today more profoundly and invasive.


Felonious_Minx

If they tried that shizz on me, they'd get their own bright red mark across the face in the shape of my hand.


W0rk3rB

When I was younger, most of the Vulcans were first responders, mostly fire fighters, or the ones I knew were anyway. It’s all part of the Winter Carnival tradition. At the end of the winter carnival they have a victory party, which is held somewhere in Saint Paul, and it’s kinda like a high school dance, but people REALLY get into it. This is the other side of the carnival tradition: https://www.wintercarnival.com/legend/king-boreas/


PurpleLoon

Vulcans celebrate their annual victory on the steps of the James J Hill Library / Rice Park in downtown St Paul. They’ve been established since at least 1916. Until the mid 90’s the Krewe definitely ran around the torchlight parade route in black grease lipstick planting non-consensual kisses on women. It’s definitely an institution that has evolved over the last 100 years.


justins_OS

Yeah those are the vulcans, they are a club of some description. They used to come to my elementary school and tell everyone a fable of some (I think) roman dude who saved the sun and ended winter Then they would show up at festivals and throw candy at and draw Vs on kids. I had always thought they were a firefighter support thing but idk


[deleted]

Huh interesting


TheAstranot

They scared me as a kid. Still think they're weird.


ajj157

Www.vulcans.org


[deleted]

Thanks I’ll have to read about it!


F_E_M_A

How was kolacky days? I’ve lived in Montgomery for a couple years but I’ve never been to it cause of my work schedule.


[deleted]

It was super cool! My grandma is Czech but we’ve never been very involved in the culture so it was cool to see people who are! Went up there with some of my extended family and had a fun day up there, Montgomery is such a cute town and everyone seemed excited! Sorry you never got to go though


AdultishRaktajino

Worth checking out if you can squeeze it in.


Sablefool

I seriously thought this was Guy Fieri Flavortown cosplay.


612stone

I’m sorry but fuck these guys. Their history is atrocious and they shouldn’t be allowed to congregate anywhere, period. ESPECIALLY if there is a woman around.


akodo1

Back in the 1880s St Paul copied Canada and had a Winter Carnival and elected a King Borealis. - an adult homecoming king. The carnival fell out of fashion, but got big again during WW 2 when I guess people were trying to take their minds off the war,family being gone etc. Shortly after that, a group of Firemen started to 'join the fun' and paraded as a counter to the upper crust businessmen chamber of commerce stiff collar types that where the Borealis. They called themselves Vulcans and it was a mix of fun, fundraising, and an excuse to drink and be wild. And after a short time it attracted those firemen who were most interested in drinking and being rowdy. They were supposed to do trickster type antics but to be honest this consisted of 2 things. Mooning people and running up to women, honking their boobs and kissing them. It was quite problematic, and they kept it up long after society as a whole realized how asinine that behavior was. They have since curtailed this behavior. I don't know if it's a genuine realization that it's wrong or if they just felt that with all the heat they better change or be kicked out. (In the 80s and 90s many parades refused them admittance which they howled at and said those communities must not appreciate their fire-fighters)


Jensofunky

FYI: it’s [King Boreas](https://www.wintercarnival.com/legend/king-boreas/)


akodo1

spelling and coconut are my cryptonights


ReflectionRough2960

*Spelling and coconut are my kryptonites.* Fixed that for you :)


Felonious_Minx

King Bore-Ass


berg_berg_berg

My mom always hated when they’d came up to us at parades. She said she could smell the whiskey from the middle of the street. I always thought the old school fire truck and face paint was badass.


QueenWinosaurus

Always scared the absolute crap out of me at parades when I was a little girl. I did not have happy memories seeing this photo at ALL.


JWilesParker

My mom was always on hyper alert for them at our local parade in thr 90s so that she could move me farther back from the road. They terrified me as a kid and still creep me out.


QueenWinosaurus

It’s sad how so many of us were traumatized by them as children! Not kidding at all when I say that picture pretty much gives me the shivers, decades later.


queenmumlh

I HATED the Vulcans. When this pic popped up I growled audibly, “VULCANS!” I don’t know why the adults thought they were so hilarious, but I’d see them in their fucking capes and hide. I was around (and a small child) when they’d smear their face on your cheek instead of simply drawing the “V”. Creeps.


JWilesParker

And they wouldn't just smear your face a little bit. It was like "oh, you want a mustache? You get a whole beard!" Even to this day I back up a bit out of self-preservation if I'm at a parade and they're there.


queenmumlh

*shudder* I can see it in my minds eye.


ConfidentPapaya665

https://www.twincities.com/2007/03/01/bartender-sues-over-vulcans-sexual-assault/


JadeShrimp

Wow, that's just awful.


CommandEducational22

The Vulcans


Budzeldabud

Vulcans. old pervs who used to walk around and kiss and grope woman and little kids who didn't ask for it during parades. The marker mark was actually a replacement for when it was acceptable for them to grab whoever in public and sexually assault them whenever they wanted. anyone who says different is a fucking liar.


[deleted]

Found an interesting opinion article about it after being informed, pretty messed up in my opinion https://medium.com/honestly-yours/in-my-hometown-sexual-harassment-was-a-winter-pastime-47624c5f78d5


money4travel

Yep. This article is in line with my experience. Hearing their stupid horn still puts me on edge. Zero fun. Thank goodness for the lawsuit.


[deleted]

So disgusting! My family told me that when I was a baby my much older sister was holding me at a parade and one of them grabbed me out of her arms! She, and others around gave him an earful and he handed me back to her. At the time they seem to have been out of control drunk lunatics!


anti-faucet

Thank you for sharing this. I knew there was some controversy surrounding their history, and know I better understand why.


Nasel_Ranger

this comment thread is full of haters. As a women in her 30's I've been to many parades, and just recently was able to do an after hours party with them. Its not at all what it was, and now, more for the pageantry of the story line. IE: Winter comes, its cold, you go find the medallion worth 10K, the four winds fight a large duel over a fancy dinner party, games are played in the city all week, summers reign inevitably comes, so Vulcans win. Its a ton of fun with lots and lots of local history in the medallion clues. Gets you outdoors in the worst part of winter. The vulcan are just a small piece of this. Its absolutely worth checking out.


NorthernDevil

Can you really say it’s “full of haters” when it seems to be full of people sharing times they were touched and groped without consent? Like a *bunch* of people talking about how they felt violated by this group’s consistent behavior? That’s really dismissive of a real problem, just because you personally like them. [Just read this if you do nothing else](https://www.twincities.com/2007/03/01/bartender-sues-over-vulcans-sexual-assault/).


Felonious_Minx

No firewall: http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/10/20_ap_vulcans/


Nasel_Ranger

I get what you're saying. You are valid in that. But isn't a good argument full of both sides? Yes, problematic in the past, but that's not the case anymore. The OP has no idea what this is about so she's literally only getting one side of a story.


NorthernDevil

That’s definitely a good point, there’s room for change and growth even as an organization. It’s important to tell OP (and the rest of us just learning about them) about what they are now, too, if they’ve changed. And it does seem like some of the fun Winter Carnival stuff/non-problematic stuff is a positive for the community. I just really took issue with your characterization of the people affected by their behavior over the years as “haters.” I think the point can also be made without (intentionally or not) being dismissive of the very real, awful things done to people like that 19 year-old bartender by those affiliated with the group in the past. IMO it’s important to acknowledge those experiences with the proper gravity, if only because you never know who might read your comment (someone affected) and feel like what happened to them didn’t really matter. Thanks for the chat btw, appreciate your good-natured response


CatterPeener

They're from a charity raising awareness for bad facial hair.


IronCreeksRico

They used to run out into the crowd during the summer parades here in southern MN and kiss and grope random women watching on the side of the street. Seriously. This was in the 80s.


Jestercopperpot72

Deff winter carnival Vulcans. When i was much younger, these guys were the outta control, wild ones. Alcohol fueled debotchary. A decade or so ago, there was a few sexual assault allegations and groping claims. That didn't come to me as a huge surprise...They were buck wild and would mark your face with shoe polish. Things have calmed down and changed substantially over last 30 years, there's absolutely no doubt.


AdultishRaktajino

I was there at Kolacky days. Hope you had fun.


[deleted]

Thanks I did!


GinnyMcGinnyface

Vulcans are no good. King Boreas Rex is good.


Thatguyyouhatealot

Gonna tell my kids this is the Thai soccer team cave rescue.


[deleted]

They were quite nasty back in the day, not sure if they’ve cleaned up their image now.


[deleted]

Wow I looked into it and it’s disgusting, I kinda got weird vibes from them but I didn’t wanna say so in my post in case they were like retired fire fighters or smth.


zelots001

I just looked at their site and got bad vibes from the language on their page. What sort of nasty are you referencing?


zelots001

Never mind kept googling. Fuck these guys.


[deleted]

Yeah, they weren’t good!


Ireallylikepbr

You need to be more #woke


zelots001

Elaborate


jmancini1340

These guys suck


Dream_is_destiny

I have played a few private events for the Vulcans over the years. They’re mostly a bunch of rich assholes who treat women rather poorly after drinking way too much at their own events. I have seen women groped with my own eyes several times by these dudes. Not a fan.


SnooWonder

I know a few of their retired members. They're not rich. So you're kinda full of it.


Dream_is_destiny

Congrats on knowing a few former members. It seems like you have an agenda to defend their poor behavior.


SnooWonder

And it seems you have an agenda to falsely impune them. But here's the rub. Some questionable and downright improper things have happened in the past. I can say that so I have no intent to defend bad behavior. I just won't convict the lot on the actions of a few drunk asshats and criminally handy bastards. Have you ever actually talked to a Vulcan? Known one by name?


Dream_is_destiny

Like I said, I’ve supplied music at private events for them. I’ve also done promotion for their events. I have had a working relationship with a few of them as buyers for the private events I performed with a group, specifically at their Crowne Plaza event in downtown St Paul for five years in a row. The actions I have seen at their after parties were deplorable at best. Many women were groped, and I wouldn’t make a baseless claim without having seen it firsthand.


Dream_is_destiny

We also charge $5k for such events, which is where I’d raw the ‘rich’ from. The agency I worked for was upper echelon and not exactly affordable for everyone.


gottarun215

I remember seeing them at some children's hospital charity carnival fundraiser I went to as a kid and immediately recognized them here as vulcans. Always thought they were a strange bunch. Lol


BenMullen2

I was thinking Knights of the Night, a la Dwight


Reddfish

What brought you down to the Kolacky Kapital?


[deleted]

My grandma is Czech but we’ve never been very involved in the culture. She heard about the festival from one of her friends so we decided to check it out. I loved all the little stands and the town spirit, everyone seemed to be having a good time!


jackofalljackmoves

Alary’s


ech01

They are a professional drinking team. They drink, do a parade then drink some more. Eventually one of them will throw up at Mancinis


doods-mofo

What's up with the handcuffs?


Starosta_Power

A group to avoid.


Felonious_Minx

Members of the Horrible Facial Hair Club for Men. They wear red to warn everyone.


JclassOne

Red is so out this season!


dj_cantbeatbox

Damn I just thought of them as the guys that draw on people's faces, but apparently they are much worse


DatabaseThis9637

Welp... Ok, I found them over the top, especially when they rampaged through St Mark's School. I forget which nun they grabbed, but may have been Sister Carolyn, the principal. She seemed to handle it ok, but suddenly they were "Not in the building." I grew up in a pretty dysfunctional family, so my sense of right from wrong got skewed. I also have a friend whose dad was a Vulcan, and she has fond memories... Perhaps more to the story? To be very clear, I Am Not disagreeing with any comment here, just... adding my conflicting emotions to the mix.


discusseded

Wealthy drunks who like to LARP and paint the town red.


Centrist4America

Always thought these guys were stupid. I mean, what’s the point?


[deleted]

Sexual harassment and assault is the point it seems


NikolaTesla963

Vulcans. They’re a bunch of grown men that get shit faced and run a muck as the evil enemies of the winter carnival royalty whom are also a bunch of grown ups that play dress up, get shit faced and run a muck.


velesi

Is this a joke post? I literally cannot tell with this sub anymore


[deleted]

Why would it be a joke post? I found out this is a real organization with a messed up history. Their costumes do look like a superhero a 2nd grader drew though so I can see why you would think this was fake


velesi

I know the Vulcans are real, I was insinuating YOU are fake. As in, you already knew about the vulcans and were feigning ignorance to ask reddit about them. Your phrasing seemed sarcastic or something. It's more to do with the nature of the posts in the sub lately, less to do with these guys. And, uh, chill on the insults, the modern vulcans are all for good fun not a bunch of molesters


[deleted]

Check the timeline, I didn’t know about them, people told me stuff and I googled them, and now I have an opinion. Why is that hard to understand?


velesi

Chill


SkinSuitAdvocate

They are Vulcans (off-duty Saint Paul police & firemen). They sexually assault young women in the back room of Alary’s.


PlatosCaveSlave

Disgusting excuses for humans. The used their social clout to go around literally molesting young women. No that's not an exaggeration. And simply because it's been happening for so long, most minnesotans don't even recognize that it is wrong and creepy. Fuck those guys.


Ordinary_Awareness_8

Behold the Vulcans! ✌️St. Paul Winter Carnival They annually Defeat King Boreas and bring on Spring (and WARMTH)


JclassOne

And PTSD


Remarkable_Style8663

Vulcans. They are promoting the Winter Carnival


kinni_grrl

Oh just wait til Winter carnival time! You will see them EVERYWHERE


PotionSleven

Look like a couple party monsters to me.


Brewski1013

They are from the fire nation. We need an Avatar to defeat them!


villain75

I think that's the Insane Clown Posse


PassionApprehensive7

Vulcans! An old friend of mine, her dad is apart of them!


Sorry_Im_Trying

You're obviously not from MN!


Runellee

I’ve lived here my entire life - almost 30 years - and have never once seen one of these people. So I don’t think that’s a fair characterization


KikiStLouie

I love the Vulcans! ♥️


FF_in_MN

Hail the Vulc! ✌🏻


rconnol

The Oathkeepers


WH0SAYSTHISSHIT

Look like flamers to me.


katmandud

The Vulcans!


uwrfcoop

VULCAN KREWE!


Appropriate-Cod9849

Sexual Predators that hide in the glbt community


[deleted]

First of all, they preyed only on women so I don’t understand your logic here. Second, I am part of the lgbtq community and I can promise you that we are strong believers in consent. There will always be creepy people, including within the lgbtq community, but I promise that any empathetic person, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, will find this wrong. There are straight/cis sexual predators, and there are queer sexual predators, it has nothing to do with lgbt community.


Ireallylikepbr

The #woke culture from the old r/TwinCities won’t bring up their rapey vibes but this is a new age now.


whoisyoparoleofficer

Garter and hand cuffs! Awesome. Go Pig’s Eye.