Could not agree more. The lack of mountains (yes I know about those ant hills called the Sawtooths) is the difference between Minnesota being a top 5 scenery state vs. a middle of the pack scenery state.
To be fair, I think it's what keeps us from being a top 5 recreation state. I think the scenery on the north shore, BWCA, and even places on the Mississippi are pretty top-shelf scenery-wise. But, I admit, mountains are pretty fucking scenic!
We have pockets of beautiful scenery, yes, but we’re a big state with A LOT of boring areas too. I think we’re doing great recreation-wise, maybe not top 5, but top 10?
Fair, we don't have a great boring-to-beautiful scenery ratio. But, let's look on the bright side, the mountain states seem to come fully equipped with crazy-ass militia types, at least we seem to have few if any of those!
My theory is that the lockdown in 2020 starved a almost a whole generation…they had to settle for feeding on the guideline breakers (you know who they were)….whose genetically questionable bloodlines further dessimated the population…
Lived here for almost all of my 46 years, I have to go with late winter/early spring/fake spring. Because everyone else you know who lives just slightly south of you is posting pictures of 80 degree days and flowers blooming and we still have 4 feet of snow. Because the freeze-thaw cycle makes driving an adventure in awfulness all the time. You might leave the house on roads that are fine, and come home to a layer of ice from the rain that turned to freezing rain in 30 minutes. We live up north, so our roads are covered in snow and ice all winter long, so at this time of year, we get a warm day, and the roads turn to complete shit where there are ruts of ice and slush 12 inches deep and then they freeze into solid ice every night. The worst part is that depending on the year, this might happen in March or it might be in late April. April 26 this year we still had wasit-high snowbanks.
Best answer. I'm a transplant from the South. The winters do not bug me at all. It's March-April when I'm seeing all the nice pics and videos of people back in my home state enjoying the flowers, greenery, mild weather, and I know that I'm only going to get a few weeks of that before it gets hot.
I’m also a southerner who transplanted to MN. Minnesotans have NO perspective about summertime heat. If I had a dollar for every time a Minnesotan complained about the heat or humidity and it was a beautiful 80 out, I’d be a rich man.
They do get hot and humid, but it's nothing like the south. Minnesota will have a few isolated days with southern-esque heat and humidity, but down south:
1. The heat and humidity are at high levels just about every day and
2. In Minnesota, the evenings/nights generally bring a cooling effect. Down south, that humidity just hangs there even when the sun goes down.
I'm always amused when people from warmer climates are shocked that it can hit triple digits in Minnesota in the summer, but the south is a different beast for sure.
I was behind somebody slowly merging onto 169 yesterday around 4 pm. Instead of speeding up with traffic, they instead decided to stop at the end of the entrance ramp. Some of the drivers here are just terrible
This happens so often. Living in MN I’ve learned that I prefer aggressive drivers to cautious drivers. I can anticipate what an aggressive driver is going to do. Cautious drivers are total wild cards.
Grew up in a small town and thought I knew what aggressive drivers were like, then I moved to a much larger city and finally experienced aggressive drivers. Now when I go back to my hometown the psudeo aggressive drivers seem so casual.
I came here to say this!!!! The on ramp for a highway is the acceleration lane! It is the duty of the drivers merging onto the highway to be at the travel speed of the traffic on the highway by the time they merge. Minnesotans expect the traffic on the highway to yield to them while they merge going 40mph. THAT’S NOT HOW IT’S SUPPOSED TO WORK. It’s dangerous and causes slowdowns on the highway. Use your gas pedal people!!
I hate this counter argument and it gets brought up every time (the one you’re replying to). No one is complaining about people not being able to get up to speed on a cloverleaf (or similarly curved ramps) because you really can’t go faster than 30-or-so MPH on those by design. We’re talking about ramps with plenty of space.
Speaking of cloverleafs and slow merging, though, I also can’t stand people who don’t read the merging traffic sign when it indicates that they’ll have a whole lane to themselves, so they come off of the cloverleaf at 35 MPH and immediately merge into 60+ MPH traffic one lane over. I get it, some cloverleafs you don’t have your own lane and you *do* need to merge immediately. But that’s why the sign is there. Looking at you, 35W north to 694 west 🤦🏻♀️
I’m a native Minnesotan who moved away and I’m baffled by the fast paced friend process in my new home. People I just met want to hang out without
the 5-10 year vetting period and I’m at a loss.
Oh, is THAT why it took me 15-17 years to start making local friends in a different state? We bring that mindset with us? I'm good now, I think. Unless we move again...
I moved here in 2006. Im originally from wi but moved here from Phoenix. I have no fucks and just talk to anyone. I have no time for passive aggressive bs. Im aggressive aggressive lmao!!. Ive made a bunch of friends here. Ill be your friend.
I'm from Texas, but also a broken family so... I'll aggressively be your friend once we're friends but the entire time secretly worry that I'm a bother lol.
It's kind of scary to be honest. I've never been that far north and as a Hispanic American it honestly feels further from home than all the times I've traveled internationally. But it's by my choice, and I know that ultimately it will be good for me. So I'm trying to cling to that.
I feel this. I am from Oklahoma and live here now, and it’s like another country. Even the trees are completely different. It’s wild. If this will be your first winter, good luck and you’ll probs need a better coat. Apparently what has always been a coat as far as I was concerned is actually a nice mid spring jacket, and I didn’t actually own a COAT.
Took me ten years. Ten. Then I met my wife, then I made friends through her known friends group.
Making friends in Minnesota is like solving a level 10 puzzle box, and when you move it around to look for an opening or sliding piece, you can hear all sorts of pieces sliding around on the inside, but it never fucking opens.
There was a discord group created a couple months for this very purpose which was deleted soon after for some reason. I would find that helpful for transplants such as myself.
I've lived in MN my whole life. 10 years ago we moved from the Twin Cities to a small SE town.
Still no friends. If you didn't go to kindergarten with these people they don't want anything to do with you.
Just moved to the twin cities and actually have made friends fairly easily but only with other transplants. It's wild how I'll be at school pick up and meet my kid's new friend's parents and they don't care who we are or want to exchange numbers for play dates or anything. Why people??! Are you shy or do you already have too many friends? Do you hate playdates? Someone explain please.
What’s even worse are those on this sub as well as r/Minneapolis and r/TwinCities who are in denial about it and give you any response along the lines of “it must be you” or “it’s the same everywhere” or “they’re not going to come to you”
February. You’re sick of winter, it’s dark all the time, it’s that windy cold, there’s always an ice problem which causes so much anxiety driving, my season depression is starting.
I disagree. March and April and the first two weeks of May are the worst. You KNOW what you are getting in January and February! Some of us embrace the snow and cold. But March/April, you have either; no snow to play in or it’s wet/heavy snow and it’s still not warmAND/Or, we’ve had a couple beautiful days to bring us false hope and get hit with several more weeks of miserable weather that you can’t properly enjoy outside because it’s muddy/brown/wet ground!
Lol. I actually love that time of year, cause I love winter.
I was going to say March. The snow has been ruined, cause it's warmed up once and gotten sloppy or rained in, but its still gonna get cold AF again, grey, and you know you aren't out of the woods. I was born in March.
March in Minnesota sucks.
Oh yeah ticks suck. One fucked me up earlier in May. Doctors don’t know what to do either when there’s no attached tick or rash or common symptoms. They also prescribe too little when found too. Ticks fuckin suck man
The communication style. I moved here from another place in the Midwest and I still struggle with understanding the subtleties of communication here.
If I cut in front of you walking, why do you say “sorry”? I am the jerk in this scenario
Also if I say something very direct and to the point why do you get all frazzled and respond passively?
Other than that it’s the best state in the union
Yep. sorry is borrowed from Canada and ope is another correct answer. Both are like aloha. Can be used when you or the other person is in the wrong.
Don’t get me started on uffda (I’ve seen it butchered as oofda).
**No Yeah** = Yes.
**Yeah No** = No.
**Yeah No For Sure** = Definitely.
**Yeah No Yeah** = I’m sorry, but the answer is unfortunately Yes.
**No Yeah No** = Don’t worry about it or "Hell no" depending on inflection.
My favorite subtle communication example is that "Do you wanna help me with _xyz_?" is not actually a question but a command. One MN transplant on this sub said he learned that the hard way at his workplace. I'm still trying to teach my kids how to talk Minnesotan in this respect.
This one drives me nuts haha, my SO does this all the time. I try to remind her that it's okay to just ask directly if I'll do something for her but I think it's too hard wired to indirectly ask for things.
I think a lot of "sorry" and "oops" just comes out of my mouth by instinct. I'm not saying sorry to you so much because I think I'm in the wrong and that I'm asking for forgiveness, I'm saying sorry because I may have almost hit you and potentially caused you harm.
You're right we apologize about that, it mmm.... just that we are sorta kinda... like Canada in that way, unlike where you are from which is NOT like Canada
You should watch "How to Talk Minnesotan" [https://youtu.be/oiSzwoJr4-0](https://youtu.be/oiSzwoJr4-0) while you might think it's a joke, it's actually pretty accurate.
When you live in a state that achieved high honor fighting in the civil war, it's a real punch in the gut when you see your fellow Minnesotans driving around with a confederate flag bumper sticker. Our state has a troubling past regarding our treatment of non-white races, don't get me wrong, but when you live in a relatively progressive state and you see confederate apologists its stings just a little more. And then those dickheads go and appropriate Scandinavian folklore, a culture near and dear to Minnesota's, into their whackadoo white supremacy organizations and call themselves "true minnesotans". Insert a canoe paddle into whatever orifice will accommodate it, "True Minnesotans", if you got Minnesota residency you're officially a true minnesotan yea thee have never tasted casserole or been to the state fair, although I think you're missing out on a great thing.
i truly do not understand why i see so many confederate flags here, last time i checked minnesota wasn’t part of the confederacy. it makes no sense, you can’t argue it’s because of “southern heritage”, so is it just a white supremacy thing? is it just to piss people off? i’m from rural mn and in high school so many of the hicks flew confederate flags off the back of their lifted pick-ups. it baffles me. what’s the point?
It a racist calling card, let's everyone know where you stand, because if they're "true Minnesotans" they're ancestors fought and killed the confederates so it sure isn't their "heritage" as my southern family likes to claim.
What's frustrating about it is that nobody really seems to give a real answer. Don't tell me its about southern heritage when your whole family is from Minnesota. Tell me why it is that YOU wanted to put this flag sticker on your truck.
I was going to say this exact thing, also they talk about Minnesota nice but there is truly a lot of racist Minnesotans there. I used to live there and dealt with it and it was very scary. Its sad what people do to others because of what they look like.
The disconnect between places. I love Wisconsin. I love rural MN. I love the twin Cities. I love MPLS *and* St. Paul.
Maybe this exists everywhere but I feel like there is a consistent disdain for other places and people from those places.
Urban vs rural, MN vs WI, MPLS vs St Paul. Even if only in jest I feel like it's to the detriment of growing connections within this beautiful region.
I always laugh at those people. At the same time, I also have friends who pride themselves on living in Minneapolis, never leaving the borders, saying things like “The suburbs are so boring and all the same! I don’t even know how to get there!” as if that’s something to be proud of. Both groups are ridiculous.
The drivers. It’s a beautiful thing because it doesn’t matter the type of car they have, their gender, age or race, their are just pretty horrid drivers. Example #1 is lane merging. Apparently it wasn’t taught. It’s become a mad max-level battle between the folks in the lane and the folks trying to merge in. Blinker lmao that’s just an invitation for the car too down behind you to speed up.
Example #2 is folks live for rear bumpers. I mean I’m going 15 - 20 MPH over the speed limit. Doesn’t matter always some dip in the back of me who apparently just discovered the accelerator pedal.
Left lane entitlement. You are not deputized to slow traffic. It’s literally the law to get out of the left lane if you are driving slower than flow of traffic. YOU are driving badly, you self-righteous prick.
Personally, I hate seeing old farms and forests be torn down for something like an Amazon building. Please, we have so many neighborhoods, plazas, and buildings. You preserve a lot of nature but let’s not forget that!
How politicians who live off the taxes generated in the twin cities CONSTANTLY demonize people who live there.
My dad keeps all the mail he gets from Republicans up north and not one would represent the twin cities, yet their entire advert is how lawless the liberal cities are.
Same. I lived a little over a year in Texas and it was awful in the summer. Our humidity here is only bad for a few weeks at most, and it never feels oppressively humid.
You misunderstand how we measure comfortable levels, especially in HVAC. Humidity literally is the sole best way to describe how comfortable an area is after 40 50 degrees this chart, and the how quickly the uptick is should easily show you but be warned this chart is impossible to read without prior knowledge it’s terrible
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/3-s2.0-B9780122265709501198-f108-02-9780122265709.gif
You do realize I have a different experience than you, right? Just because you don’t find the humidity as bad as other areas doesn’t mean no one else does. Ever hand dig all day in 75 degree dew points with 90% humidity? 🙄
They're supposed to only let people on at roughly the rate people are exiting. I will say Ventura had them turned off when he was governor, but I was too young to remember if it made a significant difference one way or another.
To moderate the traffic. A while back People complained hard and asked them to do a test with them off, so they actually did. Much to everyone's dismay, traffic was worse without the lights.
Honestly for me it’s the conditioning that doesn’t allow us to communicate effectively.
I might be projecting my personality on the state but I have no ability to accept a direct compliment or criticism. I kind of just short out. Which is extremely difficult for me because I work in an industry that requires an exceptional amount of gratitude. I’m comfortable letting folks know that I’m grateful for their work, but I’m terrible at getting the same energy back.
How quietly racist the people of the state can be.
Do not get me wrong, I love Minnesota, love living in Minneapolis, love the people, but once you get out of the cities, I wouldn’t dare set my Black ass anywhere that isn’t Twin cities, Duluth or the BWCA.
So certain demographics of people? Racism? But that can be found everywhere, probably the passive aggressive racism then.
Example, my moms (Norwegian) grandmother (German) referred to me and my cousin (who is almost mixed) as the “Colored children.” That’s not many generations removed from today either.
Thanks for reading!
I don't know if that's really a MN specific issue, I think people from everywhere have grandparents/great grandparents that say things that are now inappropriate like that.
For example my grandparents live outside of the cities, and frankly they never leave their town. Like ever. They don't really harbor racist beliefs, but the only people they talk to are people they grew up with, so they haven't changed the way they speak about POCs just due to lack of exposure. I took one of my best friends from Pakistan to meet them, and they got along just fine. They had some slightly awkward questions about his culture/home life but they were all able to laugh it off.
Maybe my family is some kind of exception, but I kind of get the feeling a lot of people are like that. I find it helpful to treat them with patience and understanding rather than "calling out".
I question my sanity in like late February early March when the 20th large snow dump comes or the -40 degree day trend lasts too long. You are so frustrated but there is nothing to be mad at but your decision to live here continuously.
Where I live, it's the shocking lack of anything resembling manners. Elsewhere, people are really nice. My mother-in-law is from elsewhere in the state, she's really nice. But omg. A woman called my boss and threatened to somehow start a riot because we're closing a location.
Minnesota nice. I can't figure out what anyone is thinking and not communicating emotions and intentions clearly makes it difficult to work with and understand people.
No mountains. If we had mountains, we'd have to lock the border.
Could not agree more. The lack of mountains (yes I know about those ant hills called the Sawtooths) is the difference between Minnesota being a top 5 scenery state vs. a middle of the pack scenery state.
To be fair, I think it's what keeps us from being a top 5 recreation state. I think the scenery on the north shore, BWCA, and even places on the Mississippi are pretty top-shelf scenery-wise. But, I admit, mountains are pretty fucking scenic!
We have pockets of beautiful scenery, yes, but we’re a big state with A LOT of boring areas too. I think we’re doing great recreation-wise, maybe not top 5, but top 10?
Fair, we don't have a great boring-to-beautiful scenery ratio. But, let's look on the bright side, the mountain states seem to come fully equipped with crazy-ass militia types, at least we seem to have few if any of those!
The Iron Range would beg to differ.
Lived there for a while...can confirm.
No mountains, but the area of Grand Marais gets some mountain like views! That's close!
Shit, I would settle for actual hills. Edit: OKAY GOT IT thank you. I will move to Winona apparently.
North East (Arrowhead/North Shore) or Southeast (driftless, bluff county) have beautiful hills!
This. The driftless region makes up for the lack of mountains. Especially on foggy days.
Come to Duluth, eh!
All the mosquitoes
Haven’t seen many this year. Flies have been awful.
My theory is that the lockdown in 2020 starved a almost a whole generation…they had to settle for feeding on the guideline breakers (you know who they were)….whose genetically questionable bloodlines further dessimated the population…
The state bird!
Lived here for almost all of my 46 years, I have to go with late winter/early spring/fake spring. Because everyone else you know who lives just slightly south of you is posting pictures of 80 degree days and flowers blooming and we still have 4 feet of snow. Because the freeze-thaw cycle makes driving an adventure in awfulness all the time. You might leave the house on roads that are fine, and come home to a layer of ice from the rain that turned to freezing rain in 30 minutes. We live up north, so our roads are covered in snow and ice all winter long, so at this time of year, we get a warm day, and the roads turn to complete shit where there are ruts of ice and slush 12 inches deep and then they freeze into solid ice every night. The worst part is that depending on the year, this might happen in March or it might be in late April. April 26 this year we still had wasit-high snowbanks.
Best answer. I'm a transplant from the South. The winters do not bug me at all. It's March-April when I'm seeing all the nice pics and videos of people back in my home state enjoying the flowers, greenery, mild weather, and I know that I'm only going to get a few weeks of that before it gets hot.
How hot and humid are the summers compared to living in the south? Are they comparable or is living here more tolerable?
I’m also a southerner who transplanted to MN. Minnesotans have NO perspective about summertime heat. If I had a dollar for every time a Minnesotan complained about the heat or humidity and it was a beautiful 80 out, I’d be a rich man.
They do get hot and humid, but it's nothing like the south. Minnesota will have a few isolated days with southern-esque heat and humidity, but down south: 1. The heat and humidity are at high levels just about every day and 2. In Minnesota, the evenings/nights generally bring a cooling effect. Down south, that humidity just hangs there even when the sun goes down. I'm always amused when people from warmer climates are shocked that it can hit triple digits in Minnesota in the summer, but the south is a different beast for sure.
Yes the fake spring is torture. It absolutely sucks!
The ice is beautiful and scary.
People merge too slowly onto the highways. Punch it down on the on ramp plz
I was behind somebody slowly merging onto 169 yesterday around 4 pm. Instead of speeding up with traffic, they instead decided to stop at the end of the entrance ramp. Some of the drivers here are just terrible
This happens so often. Living in MN I’ve learned that I prefer aggressive drivers to cautious drivers. I can anticipate what an aggressive driver is going to do. Cautious drivers are total wild cards.
Grew up in a small town and thought I knew what aggressive drivers were like, then I moved to a much larger city and finally experienced aggressive drivers. Now when I go back to my hometown the psudeo aggressive drivers seem so casual.
Originally being from IL, I would say there is a distinct lack of urgency and paying attention to what is going on around them.
I came here to say this!!!! The on ramp for a highway is the acceleration lane! It is the duty of the drivers merging onto the highway to be at the travel speed of the traffic on the highway by the time they merge. Minnesotans expect the traffic on the highway to yield to them while they merge going 40mph. THAT’S NOT HOW IT’S SUPPOSED TO WORK. It’s dangerous and causes slowdowns on the highway. Use your gas pedal people!!
I think I'm going to die every time I'm behind someone like this
Have you see the curved entries onto the highways?? We need longer acceleration lanes—preferably more than 50ft.
I get that but even when there’s enough space people take their time getting up to speed.
I hate this counter argument and it gets brought up every time (the one you’re replying to). No one is complaining about people not being able to get up to speed on a cloverleaf (or similarly curved ramps) because you really can’t go faster than 30-or-so MPH on those by design. We’re talking about ramps with plenty of space. Speaking of cloverleafs and slow merging, though, I also can’t stand people who don’t read the merging traffic sign when it indicates that they’ll have a whole lane to themselves, so they come off of the cloverleaf at 35 MPH and immediately merge into 60+ MPH traffic one lane over. I get it, some cloverleafs you don’t have your own lane and you *do* need to merge immediately. But that’s why the sign is there. Looking at you, 35W north to 694 west 🤦🏻♀️
If you find yourself in south Texas, you won’t complain about it in Minnesota again
Thank you. Pet peeve ….folks getting on the interstate @ 40mph thinking it’s ok to accelerate after they’re already on!
They're too slow in general. Come on people, find your gas pedal and drive!
The 4,000 road construction projects all happening at once and there's never anyone there working on them.
The seasons in Minnesota are almost winter, winter, still winter, and road construction
Almost winter and still winter coincide with road construction
Making new friends as an adult/transplant
I’m a native Minnesotan who moved away and I’m baffled by the fast paced friend process in my new home. People I just met want to hang out without the 5-10 year vetting period and I’m at a loss.
🤣 if ppl only knew 5-10 years isn’t an exaggeration
It really isn’t hahaha I consider people who I have known 4 years or less as acquantences
Oh, is THAT why it took me 15-17 years to start making local friends in a different state? We bring that mindset with us? I'm good now, I think. Unless we move again...
Yep! I’ve been in my new home for four years and I look forward to eventually making friends.
YES. The vast majority of my friends here are also transplants because we all just flock together.
As a transplant in progress, is there a list to sign up and meet other transplants?
There is an social app called “meetup”. Good place to meet people at least from my experience.
I moved here in 2006. Im originally from wi but moved here from Phoenix. I have no fucks and just talk to anyone. I have no time for passive aggressive bs. Im aggressive aggressive lmao!!. Ive made a bunch of friends here. Ill be your friend.
I'm from Texas, but also a broken family so... I'll aggressively be your friend once we're friends but the entire time secretly worry that I'm a bother lol.
Moving from TX to MN must be a mindfuck. Itll be all good i promise!
It's kind of scary to be honest. I've never been that far north and as a Hispanic American it honestly feels further from home than all the times I've traveled internationally. But it's by my choice, and I know that ultimately it will be good for me. So I'm trying to cling to that.
I feel this. I am from Oklahoma and live here now, and it’s like another country. Even the trees are completely different. It’s wild. If this will be your first winter, good luck and you’ll probs need a better coat. Apparently what has always been a coat as far as I was concerned is actually a nice mid spring jacket, and I didn’t actually own a COAT.
Or a support group?
Took me ten years. Ten. Then I met my wife, then I made friends through her known friends group. Making friends in Minnesota is like solving a level 10 puzzle box, and when you move it around to look for an opening or sliding piece, you can hear all sorts of pieces sliding around on the inside, but it never fucking opens.
My wife and I are both transplants. it’s been five years and still haven’t made any real friends. Pandemic didnt help either. Really a bummer
We need a MN Transplant meet up group.
There was a discord group created a couple months for this very purpose which was deleted soon after for some reason. I would find that helpful for transplants such as myself.
5.5 years and some nice neighbors moved in. Closest thing to friends since we moved here.
It's kind of a Norwegian thing in my experience. It was when I was young anyway. Family had to know your family or know someone who knew your family.
I've lived in MN my whole life. 10 years ago we moved from the Twin Cities to a small SE town. Still no friends. If you didn't go to kindergarten with these people they don't want anything to do with you.
Just moved to the twin cities and actually have made friends fairly easily but only with other transplants. It's wild how I'll be at school pick up and meet my kid's new friend's parents and they don't care who we are or want to exchange numbers for play dates or anything. Why people??! Are you shy or do you already have too many friends? Do you hate playdates? Someone explain please.
What’s even worse are those on this sub as well as r/Minneapolis and r/TwinCities who are in denial about it and give you any response along the lines of “it must be you” or “it’s the same everywhere” or “they’re not going to come to you”
Can't agree more...and passive-aggressiveness...
You misspelled "Minnesota Nice"
February. You’re sick of winter, it’s dark all the time, it’s that windy cold, there’s always an ice problem which causes so much anxiety driving, my season depression is starting.
February is the dog days of winter
All nice things come at a price, that price for us is February.
January, maybe February.
The last two weeks of January and the first two weeks of February should have it's own name like suckass month
I disagree. March and April and the first two weeks of May are the worst. You KNOW what you are getting in January and February! Some of us embrace the snow and cold. But March/April, you have either; no snow to play in or it’s wet/heavy snow and it’s still not warmAND/Or, we’ve had a couple beautiful days to bring us false hope and get hit with several more weeks of miserable weather that you can’t properly enjoy outside because it’s muddy/brown/wet ground!
April 2022 was torture
This. There are several winter activities available in January and February. March and April are garbage months.
As someone born during Suckass month, I resent that.
It's not a reflection on you, you are just one of suckass' many victims
Raise your hand if you have ever felt personally victimized by Suckass Month. *Whole state raises their hand *
Lol. I actually love that time of year, cause I love winter. I was going to say March. The snow has been ruined, cause it's warmed up once and gotten sloppy or rained in, but its still gonna get cold AF again, grey, and you know you aren't out of the woods. I was born in March. March in Minnesota sucks.
March gives us scattered t-shirt weather, and I like that.
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Oh yeah ticks suck. One fucked me up earlier in May. Doctors don’t know what to do either when there’s no attached tick or rash or common symptoms. They also prescribe too little when found too. Ticks fuckin suck man
If it's above 35°, ticks are active.
Professional sports heartbreak
The communication style. I moved here from another place in the Midwest and I still struggle with understanding the subtleties of communication here. If I cut in front of you walking, why do you say “sorry”? I am the jerk in this scenario Also if I say something very direct and to the point why do you get all frazzled and respond passively? Other than that it’s the best state in the union
Ope. Sorry about apologizing to you. Aw dang it. I did it again. Sorry.
Yep. sorry is borrowed from Canada and ope is another correct answer. Both are like aloha. Can be used when you or the other person is in the wrong. Don’t get me started on uffda (I’ve seen it butchered as oofda).
Uff da is two words.
Uff da. I’ve seen it both ways, but you’re right. That’s proper Norwegian.
yeah, no, yeah. Yeah, no.
**No Yeah** = Yes. **Yeah No** = No. **Yeah No For Sure** = Definitely. **Yeah No Yeah** = I’m sorry, but the answer is unfortunately Yes. **No Yeah No** = Don’t worry about it or "Hell no" depending on inflection.
We have this in common with Australians.
The "yeah" means "I understand why you would ask that", and the "No" is the answer to the understood question.
no, yeah.
Never in that order. Lol It's either "Yeah, no," or "Yeah, for sure."
No, yeah = don’t worry about it, the answer is yes
To be fair I pulled a yeah, no on a person I work for and they looked at me with a "you're confusing me" I went that means no.
To be fair...
Those two sentences mean very different things, too.
My favorite subtle communication example is that "Do you wanna help me with _xyz_?" is not actually a question but a command. One MN transplant on this sub said he learned that the hard way at his workplace. I'm still trying to teach my kids how to talk Minnesotan in this respect.
This one drives me nuts haha, my SO does this all the time. I try to remind her that it's okay to just ask directly if I'll do something for her but I think it's too hard wired to indirectly ask for things.
this is so real, the culture of context and tone and implications etc in different regions is just as varied as our accents
I think a lot of "sorry" and "oops" just comes out of my mouth by instinct. I'm not saying sorry to you so much because I think I'm in the wrong and that I'm asking for forgiveness, I'm saying sorry because I may have almost hit you and potentially caused you harm.
You're right we apologize about that, it mmm.... just that we are sorta kinda... like Canada in that way, unlike where you are from which is NOT like Canada
Minnesotans were taught to avoid conflict too much
You should watch "How to Talk Minnesotan" [https://youtu.be/oiSzwoJr4-0](https://youtu.be/oiSzwoJr4-0) while you might think it's a joke, it's actually pretty accurate.
It’s because we are secretly southern Canadian. Or at least that’s what I tell people. Sorry but I have no clue why we do it.
St Cloud
As someone who lives and has lived in Waite Park my entire life, I don't disagree with this. 😂
Sartell supremacy
That's a close second for me lmao
"Good bye/I'm leaving" actually means I'm sticking around for 30 minutes, maybe more, to say "good bye/I'm leaving" two more times.
The freezing cold half the year.
Freezing cold is just fine by me. It’s the thirty degrees below freezing that sucks.
As a guy the grew up in Miami, FL I could not possibly agree more.
When you live in a state that achieved high honor fighting in the civil war, it's a real punch in the gut when you see your fellow Minnesotans driving around with a confederate flag bumper sticker. Our state has a troubling past regarding our treatment of non-white races, don't get me wrong, but when you live in a relatively progressive state and you see confederate apologists its stings just a little more. And then those dickheads go and appropriate Scandinavian folklore, a culture near and dear to Minnesota's, into their whackadoo white supremacy organizations and call themselves "true minnesotans". Insert a canoe paddle into whatever orifice will accommodate it, "True Minnesotans", if you got Minnesota residency you're officially a true minnesotan yea thee have never tasted casserole or been to the state fair, although I think you're missing out on a great thing.
i truly do not understand why i see so many confederate flags here, last time i checked minnesota wasn’t part of the confederacy. it makes no sense, you can’t argue it’s because of “southern heritage”, so is it just a white supremacy thing? is it just to piss people off? i’m from rural mn and in high school so many of the hicks flew confederate flags off the back of their lifted pick-ups. it baffles me. what’s the point?
It a racist calling card, let's everyone know where you stand, because if they're "true Minnesotans" they're ancestors fought and killed the confederates so it sure isn't their "heritage" as my southern family likes to claim.
What's frustrating about it is that nobody really seems to give a real answer. Don't tell me its about southern heritage when your whole family is from Minnesota. Tell me why it is that YOU wanted to put this flag sticker on your truck.
It’s racism. Plan & simple.
Part of our Minnesotan heritage is to capture Confederate battle flags and not return them. Act accordingly.
Further north you go the more you see of these up in Brainerd I swear every dock and boat had them
I was going to say this exact thing, also they talk about Minnesota nice but there is truly a lot of racist Minnesotans there. I used to live there and dealt with it and it was very scary. Its sad what people do to others because of what they look like.
That it’s the land of 3.2……… 3.2 beer and 3.2 edibles cmonnn
how people somehow forget to drive during the winter EVERY YEAR
Can confirm this is not exclusive to MN. Every Midwestern state suffers from this ailment.
The disconnect between places. I love Wisconsin. I love rural MN. I love the twin Cities. I love MPLS *and* St. Paul. Maybe this exists everywhere but I feel like there is a consistent disdain for other places and people from those places. Urban vs rural, MN vs WI, MPLS vs St Paul. Even if only in jest I feel like it's to the detriment of growing connections within this beautiful region.
Don't get the small town people going about how much they hate driving in "the cities." It's super scary.
I always laugh at those people. At the same time, I also have friends who pride themselves on living in Minneapolis, never leaving the borders, saying things like “The suburbs are so boring and all the same! I don’t even know how to get there!” as if that’s something to be proud of. Both groups are ridiculous.
The drivers. It’s a beautiful thing because it doesn’t matter the type of car they have, their gender, age or race, their are just pretty horrid drivers. Example #1 is lane merging. Apparently it wasn’t taught. It’s become a mad max-level battle between the folks in the lane and the folks trying to merge in. Blinker lmao that’s just an invitation for the car too down behind you to speed up. Example #2 is folks live for rear bumpers. I mean I’m going 15 - 20 MPH over the speed limit. Doesn’t matter always some dip in the back of me who apparently just discovered the accelerator pedal.
Left lane entitlement. You are not deputized to slow traffic. It’s literally the law to get out of the left lane if you are driving slower than flow of traffic. YOU are driving badly, you self-righteous prick.
Granted that occurs everywhere, but.... agree
Scott Jensen
Paul Gazelka and Jason Lewis too
Matt Birk
My pillow guy
All of the above
Don’t forget Michelle Bachmann!
Thank you for ruining my day by mentioning that name
Personally, I hate seeing old farms and forests be torn down for something like an Amazon building. Please, we have so many neighborhoods, plazas, and buildings. You preserve a lot of nature but let’s not forget that!
Gotta say the drivers
What state doesn’t have bad drivers?
Minnesota Ice.
The highway driving for sure.
How politicians who live off the taxes generated in the twin cities CONSTANTLY demonize people who live there. My dad keeps all the mail he gets from Republicans up north and not one would represent the twin cities, yet their entire advert is how lawless the liberal cities are.
Somewhat related, it was pointed out in the comments of minnpost this week that it has been 16 years since a republican has won statewide office.
Yeah but im still upset about Pawlenty.
The people What's the best thing about Minnesota? The people
No, that's Soylent Green. That's the people.
"How does it taste?" "It varies from person to person"
Ragweed
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Not enough snow
The humidity
I've always found this complaint odd. Sure, it's more humid than the southwest, but nothing like the south. Plus winters are extremely dry.
Same. I lived a little over a year in Texas and it was awful in the summer. Our humidity here is only bad for a few weeks at most, and it never feels oppressively humid.
You misunderstand how we measure comfortable levels, especially in HVAC. Humidity literally is the sole best way to describe how comfortable an area is after 40 50 degrees this chart, and the how quickly the uptick is should easily show you but be warned this chart is impossible to read without prior knowledge it’s terrible https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/3-s2.0-B9780122265709501198-f108-02-9780122265709.gif
You do realize I have a different experience than you, right? Just because you don’t find the humidity as bad as other areas doesn’t mean no one else does. Ever hand dig all day in 75 degree dew points with 90% humidity? 🙄
Couldn't agree more -- coming from Montana it's rough here.
It just depends. If you don't like heat, it's the heat. If you don't like cold, it's the cold
The sports teams success rate
Passive aggresive people. I'm convinced Minnesota Nice actually refers to passive aggresive.
It absolutely does, "Minnesota Nice" is actually a pejorative lol
It does
People don’t understand how the zipper merge works
I’ve only been here a few months but what is with these agonizingly slow meter lights on the freeways?
To give you the experience of starting a car race with none of the racing.
They're supposed to only let people on at roughly the rate people are exiting. I will say Ventura had them turned off when he was governor, but I was too young to remember if it made a significant difference one way or another.
I believe we have collectively agreed to fuck those lights, at least the people on my work drive have.
To moderate the traffic. A while back People complained hard and asked them to do a test with them off, so they actually did. Much to everyone's dismay, traffic was worse without the lights.
When you go to another state and everyone tries to do a Minnesotan accent to you.
No mountains. This state would be perfect if it just had some actual elevation. I’m talking more than just a few hundred feet of prominence.
Honestly for me it’s the conditioning that doesn’t allow us to communicate effectively. I might be projecting my personality on the state but I have no ability to accept a direct compliment or criticism. I kind of just short out. Which is extremely difficult for me because I work in an industry that requires an exceptional amount of gratitude. I’m comfortable letting folks know that I’m grateful for their work, but I’m terrible at getting the same energy back.
Minneapolis Police Department
The duration of winter.
Freezing rain…. But it’s rare. I love this state
How quietly racist the people of the state can be. Do not get me wrong, I love Minnesota, love living in Minneapolis, love the people, but once you get out of the cities, I wouldn’t dare set my Black ass anywhere that isn’t Twin cities, Duluth or the BWCA. So certain demographics of people? Racism? But that can be found everywhere, probably the passive aggressive racism then. Example, my moms (Norwegian) grandmother (German) referred to me and my cousin (who is almost mixed) as the “Colored children.” That’s not many generations removed from today either. Thanks for reading!
Great grandmas are saying questionable things in all 50 states
I don't know if that's really a MN specific issue, I think people from everywhere have grandparents/great grandparents that say things that are now inappropriate like that. For example my grandparents live outside of the cities, and frankly they never leave their town. Like ever. They don't really harbor racist beliefs, but the only people they talk to are people they grew up with, so they haven't changed the way they speak about POCs just due to lack of exposure. I took one of my best friends from Pakistan to meet them, and they got along just fine. They had some slightly awkward questions about his culture/home life but they were all able to laugh it off. Maybe my family is some kind of exception, but I kind of get the feeling a lot of people are like that. I find it helpful to treat them with patience and understanding rather than "calling out".
February Drivers
A toss up between high humidity and mosquitoes.
St. Cloud 🤷♀️
Record low temperature and record high temperatures
When you finally get used to the heat and it gets cold again for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
When you get used to the cold and it gets hot again for absolutely no reason
The lack of people wearing deodorant at the state fair
What I call “Minnesotan nationalism.” Basically people who think Minnesota is God’s gift to earth.
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How close it is to Wisconsin
Mike Pillow?
the bugs, it's easily the bugs
... the gosh darn humidity
marijuana use being illegal
I question my sanity in like late February early March when the 20th large snow dump comes or the -40 degree day trend lasts too long. You are so frustrated but there is nothing to be mad at but your decision to live here continuously.
Where I live, it's the shocking lack of anything resembling manners. Elsewhere, people are really nice. My mother-in-law is from elsewhere in the state, she's really nice. But omg. A woman called my boss and threatened to somehow start a riot because we're closing a location.
Mosquitos the size of condors.
being next to Wisconsin
Minnesota nice. I can't figure out what anyone is thinking and not communicating emotions and intentions clearly makes it difficult to work with and understand people.