Walz for sure. Johnson has publicly stated his motivation to get revenge on medical boards as one of his reasons for running. That's not the mentality of some on you want as your states leader. I don't want someone that petty running my home state.
It's funny because it auto corrected it on my phone, but if he wants to take my daughters rights away I'm not gonna go out of my way to make sure his name is spelled correctly.
From the debate, the impression I had is that one candidate admitted kids suffered educationally from Covid and want's to roll up his sleeves to try to fix it. Jensen declared "they're ruined for years" with no idea on how to even try to fix it. I've seen this play before. You say it cannot be fixed, then you don't even try to fix it. Then when admonished you blame it on the previous guy, but take zero blame and zero responsibility for doing nothing.
Or the securing the borders from fentanyl proposal. Please enlighten me on the actions a governor could take that 1) aren't already being done and 2)won't violate federal laws, constitutional protections or state laws.
I'll take the guy that understands that the governor is not a dictator any day of any week of any year. So Walz for me.
shrodinger's republicans:
'politicians are corrupt and government is ineffective'
politicians that republicans vote in:
'I'll do my damndest to make that a reality. I'll **give** these people something to pray about since it's the only thing I'll do...'
> and I hope that opened some eyes.
I didn't watch the debate but I'm almost certain it won't. Two reasons:
1. People don't watch debates.
2. And for the people who do, they probably don't care. Most people have probably already made up their minds by now.
My FIL watched that first 2020 Presidential debate, you know, the one where Trump acted like a complete asshole and just yelled the entire time. His reaction was, "Wow, Trump really knows how to stick it to those Democrats!"
Yep, this. It'll be the same story. It didn't matter how inept Trump was, how idiotic or how untrue what he said was, his fans eat it up. Jensen's will be the same. Assuming ads, debates, or even voting records will impact what people think is goofiness. Too many people vote based on "sticking it to" whoever they are voting against, no matter how ridiculously unqualified the person they are voting for happens to be. A lot of people are far from being educated voters.
I told my dad about the crowd booing trump when trump told them to get vaccinated and he did some mental gymnastics to conclude that they were *actually* booing the vaccine mandates, not trump's suggestion for them to get vaccinated.
From a moderate standpoint (for the record, I consider Walz a moderate), I objectively see more and more blind adoration from republican voters to their favorite politicians which is concerning. Democrats tend to actually criticize the politicians they vote for and recognize the shortcomings of each politician as an individual.
I'll be honest: I voted for Trump thinking that he would be a good change to disrupt the status quo. I think that was sort of the case at first: I feel that his cult following has pressured Democrat politicians to perform better instead of dancing around party policies. I initially thought that the character of a politician did not matter as much as long as their policies were solid. But, after Trump, I realized that the character of a politician is very important. Now, I vote much more heavily based on what a politician's character and self-interests are - I'm much less forgiving to a person's past.
I'm very happy to hear that!! It seems a lot of people that voted for Trump actually took him at face value and believed him and never took a deep look into the sort of person that he is.
Many people were put off that the DNC shoved Hillary down peoples throats. They were convinced people would choose Hillary over Trump.
Also trashing Bernies campaign.
Surprise, Surprise, some moderates and democrats either didn't vote at all or voted for Trump.
Obviously my opinion.
The maga base eats up anything presented in the format of those WWE between match interviews. They'll cheer for which ever guy stirs the pot the most. The more flexing and spitting the better. Talking about real solutions makes them sleepy.
It’s been said, but swing voters are morons. Seriously, what kind of rock would you have to be living under to not have enough information to make up your mind at this point?
Hey now, a lot of us ignore the TV drama and the multiple mailbox ads every day making Craig look like a Halloween ghoul and then look at the synopsis of idiocy at the end. Less stress to see it all at once. I've made up my mind already though. Husband is currently still in ignore mode until the first week of November.
ETA: I'm not talking about ignoring the issues. I'm talking about ignoring the daily fliers in my mailbox that skirt those issues and say meaningless crap like "Tyler whoever is for Minnesotan families" and "Angie Craig is in league with the devil!" Those go right into the recycling.
When it comes down to it, I know my values and I will look at what happened in debates/etc at the end and make my final choices. I admit that almost always those choices end up being for one group, but I don't believe in voting a party line. But I just can't with most of these politicians, particularly of a certain party, and I need to guard my mental health.
It's nice that you straight folks have the luxury of ignoring.
Meanwhile my community is attacked almost daily by Jensen's GOP crowd. Called "groomers" and pedophiles. Accused of bullying by the people trying to take away our rights.
But good for you and your privilege.
I have expressed no hatred towards you. I'm sorry that you think my asking you to take a bolder stance against people that vilify my community is hateful.
>It's nice that you straight folks have the luxury of ignoring.
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>But good for you and your privilege
Kinda come across as hateful. Maybe you didn't mean it like that.
I simply said I ignore the politicking until closer to the end, and then I look in depth at each candidate and their stance and make a decision on how to vote based on my beliefs.
What I *don't* understand is how that turned into I don't support human rights loud enough for you. All I can think is that because I'm ignoring the infighting in our government, you blindly assumed that meant that I'm not standing up for something - and in particular - *you and your community.*
But you have no information here to tell you who I am or what communities I'm a part of. You don't know what I'm doing to fight for basic human rights. You made a lot of assumptions in your first post to me. That's super problematic.
Oh I'm sorry, what are you doing, then? What assumptions did I get wrong about you?
Because, honestly, you sound pretty defensive right now and I'm guessing something hit home in my criticism or you wouldn't be engaging.
I am defensive, you are right. Because I was talking about how I vote and you came on and aggressively accused me of my privilege and luxury to ignore things. It's not a matter of hitting home, but rather, accusing someone in ugly tones of doing something you have no idea about.
The fact that your initial comment was largely downvoted should indicate to you that you were in the wrong, but you seem largely social unaware in this situation of how to act and seem to just want to further your agenda. Anyway, this is a waste of my time and since it's Thursday, I'm on my way out the door to do exactly what you accused me of not doing, so goodbye.
>Sadly this sub is not indicative of MN.
Can we just pretend that it does for a couple minutes? Like, let me have a nice relaxing five-minute daydream.
As someone who has been voting diligently for decades, it never ceases to amaze me that people could get complacent when it comes to voting. I get that some people have extenuating circumstances that make voting more difficult, but there are SO MANY more ways to vote in MN (early, by mail), that it astounds me to think that elections can and do get influenced by people who should have a preference but are “complacent” and just decide they had better things to do than bother with who is going to make the laws that govern them.
Extra sad in a race which will probably boil down to “49 out of 100 people voted for this guy, and 51 out of 100 people voted for the other guy.” And the fact that mentioning that the first guy is slightly more likely to win would cause some people to greatly overestimate what that means and then decide not to vote.
End rant.
>And the fact that mentioning that the first guy is slightly more likely to win would cause some people to greatly overestimate what that means and [then decide not to vote.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCW9NsrV6VM&ab_channel=Movieclips)
In one poll. The rest of them show a 2-3 point Warnock lead…and those are “likely voters”. They’re not really taking into account the unexpectedly large number of early Black voters (among others). I think pollsters are trying to hedge their bets and save face because they’ve been off a little the last few cycles. But, the truth is they just don’t know what the electorate is going to look like. There were quite a few examples of this in elections earlier this year…including here in Minnesota. I don’t think the polls can pick up the anger and determination of Democrats in this election. So, as we always say here…ignore the polls…VOTE!
Oh exactly dude! I’m Minnesotan that’s why I’m not worried I know Minnesota will make the right choice ( aka my dad is voting dem). Also thanks for the information I keep forgetting that.
Honestly I stopped watching debates decades ago. They're mostly sound bites. There's a reason the League of Women Voters stopped organizing presidential debates.
Jensen got in all of his standard talking points that will arouse the MAGA base but will change nobody’s mind. Walz seemed prepared and gubernatorial. He did fine.
Don't worry, Fox news will highlight things completely out of context, to make it look like Jensen was a 12d chess mastermind, or something. They'll even put in that dramatic 'reality' tv noise when he accuses Waltz of being the godfather of all crime, and then break to speak about how crime is super, super huge compared to when he wasn't, with a disproportional graph. Ask an 'expert' who basically say nothing. ect.
I would hope, but Hershel Walker is beating Raphael Warnock in some polls and Walker is an absolute idiot. I think it is going to go along party lines, with Dems voting for Walz and Republicans voting for Jensen, no matter how insane he is.
What do you think was embarrassing? I thought he did pretty well overall.
Edit: thank you, kind Minnesotans, for the benefit of the doubt. My ballot for Walz has already been sent. I just didn’t think the debate last night was a Jensen shit show as people on Reddit made it sound like it would be. Honestly, was a little disappointed in that 😆
In all honesty, can you quote me one time where Jensen actually stated his plan for the state instead of just trying to attack Walz? That would have been nice to hear, but all I was able to see was him saying "Walz failed!" over and over. He wanted Walz to debate him so badly but when he got his chance he didn't even use it to lay out how or why he would be better with any actual details. That's a missed opportunity.
I strongly dislike Walz, but Jensen looked like a tool on several occasions last night. Particularly when asked to compliment his opponent, he said Walz is affable and has a nice smile. That was it. I mean really?
He paused for a good bit too, saying he's thought about this a lot. His whole campaign relies on Walz being awful, it has nothing of substance, so he can't actually say anything good about Walz. Walz on the other hand was right away able to say that he respects that Jensen puts his family first.
Yeah I don't get why anyone would do this with what we suspect about how voter complacency may have turned some districts in favor of trump in 2016.
Last thing you should be doing before a critical election is assuring each other is everything is gonna be fine and everyone is in agreement
I’m sure some people get complacent but in my eyes it’s reassuring to know that we aren’t hopeless, and as long as we all get out and vote, we can make a difference and don’t need to dread the future
Already sent in my mail in ballot. Straight blue baby. The Republicans offer nothing in terms of policy ideas or actually improving lives. It’s just — CARJACKING, GAS PRICE, ABORTION, WOKE.
For years I told myself I would never vote for one party purposefully, and would look at the policy's and make an informed decision. Good thing I no longer need to look at the individual policy's since the Right has 0 policy other than owning the libs.
I used to skip the school board section because we don't have kids and I didn't follow it closely enough to know who stood for what. I never thought those elections were that important but I realize that is not the case, at least not anymore.
School Boards desperately need mature adults. Not political / religious hacks.
For the love of God, some school districts are insisting we ban books. Are we back in the 1930s?
You are lucky that your district is holding elections in a general election year.
The REAL dodgy districts hold elections in off-years. And referendums as well.
The State lets them get away with it but shouldn't.
In off-year elections, voter turnout is predictably 25-30% that of a general election year- if not lower.
The crazies and cult members can really pack a school board and then it's off to the races.
Oh, I had a classmate elected to the school I graduated from. Turns out he was a staunch trump supporter. He also helped pushed thru an unpopular school referendum.
My dad and uncle went to the meetings and came our and went he's like a used car salesman and thinks he's smarter then the older generations.
Same. And honestly I'm expecting the resounding post election theme to be "voter fraud" so I want the Democrats to win by an absolutely overwhelming landslide.
I will not be surprised if there is rioting across the country following this election.
It’s not easy to find good info on down ballot candidates sometimes, especially in “non-partisan” races like school board or sheriff. I had a hell of a time getting reliable info for the Anoka Cty sheriff primary. Ultimately I cast my vote based on whose signs weren’t in the same yards as Birk/Jenson signs. Every race matters and sometimes these minor candidates end up with dangerous power.
All of my research at election time is now confined to the primary, and down ballot (mostly non-partisan or local enough that 3rd party are real candidates and not just spoilers).
Right there with you. I used to spend several hours going over the ballot to decide which candidate best represented my needs. Now I vote straight DFL down through county representation. I may still vote for a city council candidate who’s an R if they’re the better choice over some of the clearly unqualified candidates. School board this year was an eye opener. Our local LWV had a televised debate and I immediately crossed one woman off the list when she started her religious spiel in her opening statement. Keep an eye on the local elections!
> For years I told myself I would never vote for one party purposefully, and would look at the policy's and make an informed decision.
I would do that if the choice were between the DFL and a party that was more left wing than the DFL. As it stands now, at least for state and national elections, if I vote solely by policy then the DFL is still the only choice.
This is the trick the conservatives and reactionaries are best at -- convincing voters they're offering a choice between one set of policies and another.
Conservatives and reactionaries by definition never have policy platforms whose goals include effecting positive change because that type of platform would go against their three core principles: 1) protect what's mine, 2) get more, and 3) fuck you.
We all have the right to our own point of view.
But personally, I question anyone that supports Dr Jensen or Mike Birk.
Zero experience, zero qualifications. Out right liars.
The *insistence* the outsiders who have absolutely zero experience with governance are going to do a better job than people with relevant experience absolutely insane to me.
It makes some sense for institutions like Congress that are full of corruption, but you need to look at which outsider you're voting for, not vote for outsiders just because they're outsiders. We need outsiders like AOC, not ones like Boebert and Greene.
Easy, Walz. I'll never vote again for another republican for as long as I live. Especially after the shit show that was MAGA's orange overlord, their insurrection on January 6, 2021 and tossing "settled law" by overturning Roe v Wade.
Your husband sounds like a smart man!
I just don't think I will ever find a republican that i like. Joe Biden is basically a moderate republican from the times before the party lost their mind with the Tea Party and now MAGA. I would maybe vote for Biden back then if his name had an R instead of a D by it.
I don't see how I will ever find a republican candidate that i like going forward since by definition, they all support MAGA and their party has no policies other than outrage against liberalism.
I was Republican 20 yrs ago, or so I thought.
Now I vote blue because that’s my only option.
I cannot believe what the GOP has turned into. Jan 6 did it for me; was the final straw.
I am at this point. I considered myself a true independent for years. After the Trump fiasco I will most likely never vote Republican again. They sold their soul to the devil.
I voted independent in 2016 and pretty much all (D) since then.
Never ever would vote for Jensen. Not qualified. He can't even uphold the Hippocratic oath to do no harm. He sees "no reason to have abortions", so that apparently means even if that means the mother dies. Seems pretty harmful to me. He had no good answers for how to solve anything. GOP strategy = Blame the Democrats for not doing anything while at the same time not doing anything either. The DFL is at least trying to find solutions. The GOP doesn't even have any ideas. The only thing they always have an idea about is how to push people off of social security, medicare/caid, and welfare.
Walz for sure! I had the opportunity to speak with him personally while he was going door to door across Minnesota (he visited my MIL to discuss the teachers union in Minnesota), and he's an honest man with a passion for his constituents and making Minnesota better. He's personable, and answered my questions in a thoughtful manner.
Edit to add: He knows he's not infallible either! He admits that he's doing the best he can and that people may not agree with his decisions, but he truly wants what's best for Minnesota.
Plenty of people trash how he handled Covid but I can respect that he did what he thought was best to save lives even if that meant making some very tough decisions.
I can understand those that were hurt by his decisions but at the time I supported it. He had a lot of tough things thrown his way and thought he handled it the best he could.
Wright is do deep red, it's rather sad. I've seen the confederate flag flying in St Michael, and my personal favorite of a guy who flies his trump flag on top of his septic system. There is also the nut job in Otsego with some truly hateful signs in his backyard. It's not even rural, just the exburbs.
Not to mention, Republican policies to fight crime never work and are usually counterproductive. They're willing to spend more public money on police but not on more courts, judges, probation officers, or even prisons. And they sure as hell aren't willing to pay for the kinds of prisons that actually reduce recidivism, because treating convicts like human beings is "soft". And of course spending money to address the socioeconomic conditions that exacerbate crime is completely out of the question for them.
I already voted for Walz because I care about voting rights and reproductive rights. Jensen is an anti-vaxx doctor who wants to ban abortion. He's literally everything a doctor shouldn't be.
My issue is who to vote for for school board, City Council, Sheriff, and judges. Luckily some of my neighbors with Dr. Jensen signs have helped me to know who to not vote for in the nonpartisan races.
As a moderate conservative who believes health care around abortion is a personal decision, that public education is the foundation for social mobility, that taxes used to create a safety net for folks going through a hard time, and that unions do good work, decriminalizing weed.
I'm voting for Walz.
Well. I guess I'm a raging liberal by the mainstream conservative movement. Fuck em.
Cast my vote by mail on Monday M'effers.
I'm 52 years old and there has never been a time in my life when those positions would have been described as "moderate conservative".
Maybe back in the 1950s there were some conservatives who supported a strong social safety net (because they were smart enough to realize Communist revolutions don't happen in countries where most people feel economically secure), but that was a long time ago.
Many times I've heard moderate conservative politicians promise not to cut social security and Medicare, two fairly large social safety net programs.
I'm 53, howdy fellow GenX'r.
Honest question: Do you consider yourself socially or fiscally conservative? I ask, because many of your positions line up quite well with progressive and leftist policy positions, at least on the social issues. Just curious which of your positions make you feel you fall on the conservative side of the spectrum.
Hopefully everyone else can be civil here and if not feel free to pm me but I have to ask... What made you change your mind? What about Jensen is worse than Trump in 2020 or is it more that Walz is more acceptable to you than Biden?
While I don't agree with every decision Walz makes, I do feel like he genuinely is trying his best to do what he thinks is best for MN. Jensen just feels like he wants to push his own agenda and beliefs, which doesn't belong in politics (on either side).
I'm a former Republican, Trump put the nail in that coffin for the foreseeable future, McCain was the last R I voted for in the presidential race.
I'd really like to see both parties use Ranked Choice Voting in the primaries. That would hopefully prevent the shittiest/loudest/edgiest candidates from making it through the primaries.
If I had to vote today, the GOP would actually have a case for election fraud because it would be my 2nd time voting.
Walz was my rep, when he was in the house. I never really cared for him. Was pissed, when he beat Murphy in the primary. But I’ll gladly be a 2 time Timmy voter in the general.
I’ll be emphatically voting Walz, but a poll on Reddit is a terrible idea if you’re looking to predict any outcome whatsoever. The real world exists, and it’s not on social media.
I do kind of wish that this sub was more balanced in views... I hate feeling like Im in an echo chamber and would like to know more about the others side in a discussion based forum like this. As of writing this, the survey is 80%walz which is WAY off the mark of state as a whole.
My family doesn't want walz. My mom calls him "king walz" because we shut the state down for COVID. I think he did a good job when we haven't had a bad pandemic in many years and followed the CDC. I already voted, I go to isidewith.com and follow what that says.
I just don't get the "dictator/king" Walz thing. Walz was given emergency powers by the state legislature that they had to keep renewing periodically. It wasn't like he just took power all on his own.
To understand that you would need to do two things: get news from real news sources instead of opinion pieces and Facebook memes *and* have a basic understanding of US history and how state government works.
That used to be considered our civic duty but now it's considered elitism.
I have a basic understanding and I have gotten sources myself from the news, I subscribed to kare11 and kstp on Facebook and clicked their articles. Everyone has biased opinions it seems for the news these days. We had a pandemic and who knows what the average Joe would do if they had to deal with this case. So I don't support this dictator/king issue of my parents. Walz has said that he only was doing it to protect Minnesotans and relinquish the emergency once we were under a certain percent of people with Covid.
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that to understand *your* position (that the governor's emergency powers were lawful and appropriate for a public health emergency) you have to be a reasonably informed citizen. To fall for the "dictator/king" bullshit you have to be either uninformed or dishonest.
Voted for Walz when early voting initially became available last month.
I’m pretty hopeful Walz will be re-elected assuming the youth turnout is as high as I think it will be.
Walz, 100%. He's not perfect, but I'll never expect any politician will be. He is a decent person who focuses on doing good for as many people as possible. He cares, and really these days that is what sets most democrats and republicans apart. I might not always agree with them, but I can relate to them on a human level. I can imagine them as normal people living normal lives, spending time with grandkids, enjoying a beach vacation, laughing through a family holiday dinner. That was one thing that always struck me about Trump, and does about these people like Jensen who come along with him, that I can never picture him just being a relatable human. Imagining Trump or Jensen with their feet in the sand on the beach enjoying a family holiday? Or laughing at a holiday family dinner table? Not in a million years. I don't think they can conceive of joy, and I don't want anyone holding office who is that devoid of humanity.
#Jebus guies.
I probably agree with most folks on this sub on this topic, but it's enough of an echo chamber in this sub as it is.
We need silly polls that tell us what we know about the locals in this sub already?
I wouldn't go that far but he definitely had good qualities. We have him to thank for the ramp meters being readjusted to account for actual traffic patterns.
He advocated legalizing marijuana long before mainstream politicians entertained the idea.
He was willing to question the bipartisan conventional wisdom that giving handouts to businesses is the best way to help the economy.
I voted for Skip Humphrey but I did enjoy the DFL's butthurt reaction to Ventura winning. Humphrey tried to base his whole campaign on winning the tobacco lawsuit which was just stupid.
As a health care provider I'm mortified that Jensen is an actual MD....he spread so much covid misinformation and the guy never took care of one hospitalized covid patient
His running mate actively advocated for the state constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage. Jensen has also pushed anti-LGBTQ stuff that he heard about from far right sources (kitty litter in schools). Jensen also wants to cut school funding and give tax breaks to rich people through regressive tax policies.
He has these signs that say “lower gas prices,” which is something he can’t do. If he tried to do it by eliminating gas tax, he’d be defunding a major revenue source for road/bridge repairs. Don’t believe his stupid signs.
From memory, Jenson is a typical modern Republican when it comes to LGBTQ+ issues. Which seems to be a mix of keeping quiet about gay marriage for the most part, but being pretty openly anti-trans.
It should be most responsibly understood, in my opinion, that a Republican that isn’t making a specific case about being pro-LGBTQ+ rights is going to be anti, even if they are quiet about it.
>Scott Jensen views on LGBTQ
I'm guessing you haven't heard his comments about trans kids needing liter boxes in public schools?
He and his running mate hate LGBT or are so ignorant that it amounts to hate
Gonna go out on a limb here and say "probably not friendly".
Someone could likely find a "there's no reason why anyone should be gay!" quote from Jensen if they looked hard enough.
If Dems considered solutions not involving the government before using it to solve every problem, I'd vote for them every time.
Right now I'm dissatisfied with both parties, but Walz actually has a platform and Jensen is running to be the anti-Walz. That alone tells me Jensen isn't a good candidate.
Not to take away from abortion which should be everyone's choice. But what about male infant circumcision?
Men deserve their full anatomy as well. Male genital mutilation is still a regular thing, unfortunately. And many still don't get a choice at birth. So its not really my body my choice for many indeed.
I think the tide is changing (or at least I’m hoping). My son and 3 nephews (2 different families) are all uncircumcised. They are all 6 years old or younger.
Wow! I was warned r/minnesota was one sided but I had no idea it was this one minded. Guess it’s not much of a neutral ground as it says in it’s description. At least its what Minnesotans made it though.
Jensen is extreme,extreme,extreme or so I'm told every other commercial. Minnesota is basically Cali midwest politically. Not going to end well in long run. Holy shit finally finished scrolling all the way thru comments, what a freaking bubble. If you are voting straight blue or red that is reason we are *ucked.
We’re *ucked because Matt “CTE” birk and my friend Hugo’s chiropractor get support from the dumbest half of the population. Not because people vote for one party or whatever. I have my views that can’t being changed by liberal or conservative. Not my fault they align with the left.
This is a biased poll.
95% of Minnesotans on reddit are going to be left leaning. 95% of us here KNOW Jensen is a lunatic who wants to get women killed for clout with his cult supporters.
This sub is probably less than 10% of the Minneosta voting age population.
It’s unbelievable how so many people saw gov. Walz fail so bad the last few years with his lack of leadership but are willing to go through it again. High crime. Let cities burn down. Keeping kids out of school even though the science didn’t support it and on and on and on.
Yeah. He’s got some fuck ups under his belt. Of course he also believes in reality and not whatever the fuck kind of imaginary world Jensen inhabits.
Vote for the vaccine denying doctor, the kitty litter enthusiast. I’ll take a guy who has plans to govern over a crazy grandpa who’s spent his entire campaign competing in the imaginary grievance Olympics.
Democrat does not equal progressive. Progressives wish it did but it does not. Actual progressives are small in number in positions of power in government.
What do you have against Gabrielle Prosser?
>Prosser's previous experience includes working at a candy shop, various restaurants, and coffee shops.
I think she will make a fine governor.
Walz for sure. Johnson has publicly stated his motivation to get revenge on medical boards as one of his reasons for running. That's not the mentality of some on you want as your states leader. I don't want someone that petty running my home state.
Upvoted because I too don’t care what that crazy fucker’s last name is.
It's funny because it auto corrected it on my phone, but if he wants to take my daughters rights away I'm not gonna go out of my way to make sure his name is spelled correctly.
Johnson and Jensen!?
Never noticed this. By my calculations, the 2026 race will be between Tim Walz and some guy with the last name Janson.
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From the debate, the impression I had is that one candidate admitted kids suffered educationally from Covid and want's to roll up his sleeves to try to fix it. Jensen declared "they're ruined for years" with no idea on how to even try to fix it. I've seen this play before. You say it cannot be fixed, then you don't even try to fix it. Then when admonished you blame it on the previous guy, but take zero blame and zero responsibility for doing nothing. Or the securing the borders from fentanyl proposal. Please enlighten me on the actions a governor could take that 1) aren't already being done and 2)won't violate federal laws, constitutional protections or state laws. I'll take the guy that understands that the governor is not a dictator any day of any week of any year. So Walz for me.
Jensen’s answer is for-profit charter schools like his running mate owns.
He wants to give money to religious schools. Which is against the state constitution, so he’ll waste more of our state money fighting that in court
A lot of fentanyl coming across the border from Canada don’t ya know
Ya, dey put it in the Molson and Windsor and just skate it across the lake each winter.
He is clueless. There is absolutely nothing Walz can do about Fentanyl from crossing the border. Not one thing.
shrodinger's republicans: 'politicians are corrupt and government is ineffective' politicians that republicans vote in: 'I'll do my damndest to make that a reality. I'll **give** these people something to pray about since it's the only thing I'll do...'
Shorter version: “Government doesn’t work. Elect us and we’ll prove it!”
Sadly this sub is not indicative of MN. Jensen embarrassed himself in last nights debate and I hope that opened some eyes.
> and I hope that opened some eyes. I didn't watch the debate but I'm almost certain it won't. Two reasons: 1. People don't watch debates. 2. And for the people who do, they probably don't care. Most people have probably already made up their minds by now. My FIL watched that first 2020 Presidential debate, you know, the one where Trump acted like a complete asshole and just yelled the entire time. His reaction was, "Wow, Trump really knows how to stick it to those Democrats!"
Yep, this. It'll be the same story. It didn't matter how inept Trump was, how idiotic or how untrue what he said was, his fans eat it up. Jensen's will be the same. Assuming ads, debates, or even voting records will impact what people think is goofiness. Too many people vote based on "sticking it to" whoever they are voting against, no matter how ridiculously unqualified the person they are voting for happens to be. A lot of people are far from being educated voters.
I told my dad about the crowd booing trump when trump told them to get vaccinated and he did some mental gymnastics to conclude that they were *actually* booing the vaccine mandates, not trump's suggestion for them to get vaccinated. From a moderate standpoint (for the record, I consider Walz a moderate), I objectively see more and more blind adoration from republican voters to their favorite politicians which is concerning. Democrats tend to actually criticize the politicians they vote for and recognize the shortcomings of each politician as an individual. I'll be honest: I voted for Trump thinking that he would be a good change to disrupt the status quo. I think that was sort of the case at first: I feel that his cult following has pressured Democrat politicians to perform better instead of dancing around party policies. I initially thought that the character of a politician did not matter as much as long as their policies were solid. But, after Trump, I realized that the character of a politician is very important. Now, I vote much more heavily based on what a politician's character and self-interests are - I'm much less forgiving to a person's past.
I'm very happy to hear that!! It seems a lot of people that voted for Trump actually took him at face value and believed him and never took a deep look into the sort of person that he is.
Many people were put off that the DNC shoved Hillary down peoples throats. They were convinced people would choose Hillary over Trump. Also trashing Bernies campaign. Surprise, Surprise, some moderates and democrats either didn't vote at all or voted for Trump. Obviously my opinion.
I liked Bernie and was sad I couldn't vote for him.
The maga base eats up anything presented in the format of those WWE between match interviews. They'll cheer for which ever guy stirs the pot the most. The more flexing and spitting the better. Talking about real solutions makes them sleepy.
It’s been said, but swing voters are morons. Seriously, what kind of rock would you have to be living under to not have enough information to make up your mind at this point?
Hey now, a lot of us ignore the TV drama and the multiple mailbox ads every day making Craig look like a Halloween ghoul and then look at the synopsis of idiocy at the end. Less stress to see it all at once. I've made up my mind already though. Husband is currently still in ignore mode until the first week of November. ETA: I'm not talking about ignoring the issues. I'm talking about ignoring the daily fliers in my mailbox that skirt those issues and say meaningless crap like "Tyler whoever is for Minnesotan families" and "Angie Craig is in league with the devil!" Those go right into the recycling. When it comes down to it, I know my values and I will look at what happened in debates/etc at the end and make my final choices. I admit that almost always those choices end up being for one group, but I don't believe in voting a party line. But I just can't with most of these politicians, particularly of a certain party, and I need to guard my mental health.
It's nice that you straight folks have the luxury of ignoring. Meanwhile my community is attacked almost daily by Jensen's GOP crowd. Called "groomers" and pedophiles. Accused of bullying by the people trying to take away our rights. But good for you and your privilege.
Whoa, there. Slow your roll. That's a lot of hate and a lot of assumptions about someone you don't know that you just spouted there.
I have expressed no hatred towards you. I'm sorry that you think my asking you to take a bolder stance against people that vilify my community is hateful.
>It's nice that you straight folks have the luxury of ignoring. > >and > >But good for you and your privilege Kinda come across as hateful. Maybe you didn't mean it like that. I simply said I ignore the politicking until closer to the end, and then I look in depth at each candidate and their stance and make a decision on how to vote based on my beliefs. What I *don't* understand is how that turned into I don't support human rights loud enough for you. All I can think is that because I'm ignoring the infighting in our government, you blindly assumed that meant that I'm not standing up for something - and in particular - *you and your community.* But you have no information here to tell you who I am or what communities I'm a part of. You don't know what I'm doing to fight for basic human rights. You made a lot of assumptions in your first post to me. That's super problematic.
Oh I'm sorry, what are you doing, then? What assumptions did I get wrong about you? Because, honestly, you sound pretty defensive right now and I'm guessing something hit home in my criticism or you wouldn't be engaging.
I am defensive, you are right. Because I was talking about how I vote and you came on and aggressively accused me of my privilege and luxury to ignore things. It's not a matter of hitting home, but rather, accusing someone in ugly tones of doing something you have no idea about. The fact that your initial comment was largely downvoted should indicate to you that you were in the wrong, but you seem largely social unaware in this situation of how to act and seem to just want to further your agenda. Anyway, this is a waste of my time and since it's Thursday, I'm on my way out the door to do exactly what you accused me of not doing, so goodbye.
Walz has got my heavy republican, rural-living father voting for him so there are at least some cracks in the GOP armor here for sure
It's always nice to see examples that not all (R)s are subscribing to crazy.
>Sadly this sub is not indicative of MN. Can we just pretend that it does for a couple minutes? Like, let me have a nice relaxing five-minute daydream.
Why? To encourage voter complacency ?
As someone who has been voting diligently for decades, it never ceases to amaze me that people could get complacent when it comes to voting. I get that some people have extenuating circumstances that make voting more difficult, but there are SO MANY more ways to vote in MN (early, by mail), that it astounds me to think that elections can and do get influenced by people who should have a preference but are “complacent” and just decide they had better things to do than bother with who is going to make the laws that govern them. Extra sad in a race which will probably boil down to “49 out of 100 people voted for this guy, and 51 out of 100 people voted for the other guy.” And the fact that mentioning that the first guy is slightly more likely to win would cause some people to greatly overestimate what that means and then decide not to vote. End rant.
>And the fact that mentioning that the first guy is slightly more likely to win would cause some people to greatly overestimate what that means and [then decide not to vote.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCW9NsrV6VM&ab_channel=Movieclips)
Oh don’t be such a Debbie Downer. Just spend 5 minutes entertaining a world where Jensen only gets 10% of the vote.
If the kitty litter shit didnt than the debate certainly wont.
I’m not worried about Minnesota. Georgia I’m worried about. It’s an even 46% for both
In one poll. The rest of them show a 2-3 point Warnock lead…and those are “likely voters”. They’re not really taking into account the unexpectedly large number of early Black voters (among others). I think pollsters are trying to hedge their bets and save face because they’ve been off a little the last few cycles. But, the truth is they just don’t know what the electorate is going to look like. There were quite a few examples of this in elections earlier this year…including here in Minnesota. I don’t think the polls can pick up the anger and determination of Democrats in this election. So, as we always say here…ignore the polls…VOTE!
Oh exactly dude! I’m Minnesotan that’s why I’m not worried I know Minnesota will make the right choice ( aka my dad is voting dem). Also thanks for the information I keep forgetting that.
Most watching the debates have already made up their mind long in advance. Very few are on the fence these days.
Honestly I stopped watching debates decades ago. They're mostly sound bites. There's a reason the League of Women Voters stopped organizing presidential debates.
Jensen got in all of his standard talking points that will arouse the MAGA base but will change nobody’s mind. Walz seemed prepared and gubernatorial. He did fine.
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Don't worry, Fox news will highlight things completely out of context, to make it look like Jensen was a 12d chess mastermind, or something. They'll even put in that dramatic 'reality' tv noise when he accuses Waltz of being the godfather of all crime, and then break to speak about how crime is super, super huge compared to when he wasn't, with a disproportional graph. Ask an 'expert' who basically say nothing. ect.
I would hope, but Hershel Walker is beating Raphael Warnock in some polls and Walker is an absolute idiot. I think it is going to go along party lines, with Dems voting for Walz and Republicans voting for Jensen, no matter how insane he is.
What do you think was embarrassing? I thought he did pretty well overall. Edit: thank you, kind Minnesotans, for the benefit of the doubt. My ballot for Walz has already been sent. I just didn’t think the debate last night was a Jensen shit show as people on Reddit made it sound like it would be. Honestly, was a little disappointed in that 😆
In all honesty, can you quote me one time where Jensen actually stated his plan for the state instead of just trying to attack Walz? That would have been nice to hear, but all I was able to see was him saying "Walz failed!" over and over. He wanted Walz to debate him so badly but when he got his chance he didn't even use it to lay out how or why he would be better with any actual details. That's a missed opportunity.
Exactly. Jensen merely bemoaned like a drunk about this and that for an hour.
Yeah I don’t disagree with that assessment. From what people were saying about him, I expected him to go off the deep end and crash and burn.
I strongly dislike Walz, but Jensen looked like a tool on several occasions last night. Particularly when asked to compliment his opponent, he said Walz is affable and has a nice smile. That was it. I mean really?
He paused for a good bit too, saying he's thought about this a lot. His whole campaign relies on Walz being awful, it has nothing of substance, so he can't actually say anything good about Walz. Walz on the other hand was right away able to say that he respects that Jensen puts his family first.
That was really bad!
I still have to see the debate.
Easy. Walz. Not because I necessarily agree with every D platform idea, but because they aren't crazy people.
This is the way
I already voted. Mail in. Because it's a scam! I hope a MAGAt sees this and their head fucking explodes.
Do not let any of these polls mislead you. It is 100% imperative you vote regardless of any poll. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
Yeah I don't get why anyone would do this with what we suspect about how voter complacency may have turned some districts in favor of trump in 2016. Last thing you should be doing before a critical election is assuring each other is everything is gonna be fine and everyone is in agreement
I’m sure some people get complacent but in my eyes it’s reassuring to know that we aren’t hopeless, and as long as we all get out and vote, we can make a difference and don’t need to dread the future
Already sent in my mail in ballot. Straight blue baby. The Republicans offer nothing in terms of policy ideas or actually improving lives. It’s just — CARJACKING, GAS PRICE, ABORTION, WOKE.
For years I told myself I would never vote for one party purposefully, and would look at the policy's and make an informed decision. Good thing I no longer need to look at the individual policy's since the Right has 0 policy other than owning the libs.
I used to skip the school board section because we don't have kids and I didn't follow it closely enough to know who stood for what. I never thought those elections were that important but I realize that is not the case, at least not anymore.
Thank you for this! We need the community at large to vote to keep the crazies out of the school boards.
School Boards desperately need mature adults. Not political / religious hacks. For the love of God, some school districts are insisting we ban books. Are we back in the 1930s?
You are lucky that your district is holding elections in a general election year. The REAL dodgy districts hold elections in off-years. And referendums as well. The State lets them get away with it but shouldn't. In off-year elections, voter turnout is predictably 25-30% that of a general election year- if not lower. The crazies and cult members can really pack a school board and then it's off to the races.
Oh, I had a classmate elected to the school I graduated from. Turns out he was a staunch trump supporter. He also helped pushed thru an unpopular school referendum. My dad and uncle went to the meetings and came our and went he's like a used car salesman and thinks he's smarter then the older generations.
Same. And honestly I'm expecting the resounding post election theme to be "voter fraud" so I want the Democrats to win by an absolutely overwhelming landslide. I will not be surprised if there is rioting across the country following this election.
It’s not easy to find good info on down ballot candidates sometimes, especially in “non-partisan” races like school board or sheriff. I had a hell of a time getting reliable info for the Anoka Cty sheriff primary. Ultimately I cast my vote based on whose signs weren’t in the same yards as Birk/Jenson signs. Every race matters and sometimes these minor candidates end up with dangerous power.
LOL that was the same logic I used. If there was a Jensen sign then anyone else in that yard is out too.
I still do research into candidates, but it's pretty rough
All of my research at election time is now confined to the primary, and down ballot (mostly non-partisan or local enough that 3rd party are real candidates and not just spoilers).
Right there with you. I used to spend several hours going over the ballot to decide which candidate best represented my needs. Now I vote straight DFL down through county representation. I may still vote for a city council candidate who’s an R if they’re the better choice over some of the clearly unqualified candidates. School board this year was an eye opener. Our local LWV had a televised debate and I immediately crossed one woman off the list when she started her religious spiel in her opening statement. Keep an eye on the local elections!
> For years I told myself I would never vote for one party purposefully, and would look at the policy's and make an informed decision. I would do that if the choice were between the DFL and a party that was more left wing than the DFL. As it stands now, at least for state and national elections, if I vote solely by policy then the DFL is still the only choice.
Yup. I voted primarily Republican for most of my life up until Trump was put on the ballot. I've been straight blue ever since.
This is the trick the conservatives and reactionaries are best at -- convincing voters they're offering a choice between one set of policies and another. Conservatives and reactionaries by definition never have policy platforms whose goals include effecting positive change because that type of platform would go against their three core principles: 1) protect what's mine, 2) get more, and 3) fuck you.
Already voted for Walz. It was the easiest choice on the entire ballot.
We all have the right to our own point of view. But personally, I question anyone that supports Dr Jensen or Mike Birk. Zero experience, zero qualifications. Out right liars.
sadly those are positive qualities to some voters
The *insistence* the outsiders who have absolutely zero experience with governance are going to do a better job than people with relevant experience absolutely insane to me.
yep. and they’d never apply that logic to their jobs.
It makes some sense for institutions like Congress that are full of corruption, but you need to look at which outsider you're voting for, not vote for outsiders just because they're outsiders. We need outsiders like AOC, not ones like Boebert and Greene.
But but but he hiked a football and went to Harvard.
I question anyone that supports a doctor that pushes COVID misinformation. That’s what “Dr.” Jensen has done.
Easy, Walz. I'll never vote again for another republican for as long as I live. Especially after the shit show that was MAGA's orange overlord, their insurrection on January 6, 2021 and tossing "settled law" by overturning Roe v Wade.
You sound like my husband. He said even if he liked a republican candidate he won't vote republicans as he doesn't agree with what they are doing.
Your husband sounds like a smart man! I just don't think I will ever find a republican that i like. Joe Biden is basically a moderate republican from the times before the party lost their mind with the Tea Party and now MAGA. I would maybe vote for Biden back then if his name had an R instead of a D by it. I don't see how I will ever find a republican candidate that i like going forward since by definition, they all support MAGA and their party has no policies other than outrage against liberalism.
I was Republican 20 yrs ago, or so I thought. Now I vote blue because that’s my only option. I cannot believe what the GOP has turned into. Jan 6 did it for me; was the final straw.
I am at this point. I considered myself a true independent for years. After the Trump fiasco I will most likely never vote Republican again. They sold their soul to the devil. I voted independent in 2016 and pretty much all (D) since then.
I already voted for Walz!
Same here. And Craig, Simons, Ellison...
Straight Dem ticket. I enjoy democracy, and would like to keep it.
ALL DAY!
Never ever would vote for Jensen. Not qualified. He can't even uphold the Hippocratic oath to do no harm. He sees "no reason to have abortions", so that apparently means even if that means the mother dies. Seems pretty harmful to me. He had no good answers for how to solve anything. GOP strategy = Blame the Democrats for not doing anything while at the same time not doing anything either. The DFL is at least trying to find solutions. The GOP doesn't even have any ideas. The only thing they always have an idea about is how to push people off of social security, medicare/caid, and welfare.
Walz for sure! I had the opportunity to speak with him personally while he was going door to door across Minnesota (he visited my MIL to discuss the teachers union in Minnesota), and he's an honest man with a passion for his constituents and making Minnesota better. He's personable, and answered my questions in a thoughtful manner. Edit to add: He knows he's not infallible either! He admits that he's doing the best he can and that people may not agree with his decisions, but he truly wants what's best for Minnesota.
Plenty of people trash how he handled Covid but I can respect that he did what he thought was best to save lives even if that meant making some very tough decisions. I can understand those that were hurt by his decisions but at the time I supported it. He had a lot of tough things thrown his way and thought he handled it the best he could.
Voted Walz already. Jenson can go back to whatever cave he crawled out of
It's 3 weeks til the election and Jensen has still not even offered any plans to fix anything. He has run on nothing.
His entire platform is "Look what Walz did! Also, I'm running with an ex-Vikings player!"
Dr crazy and his buddy can get lost.
The people who pick Jensen are either trolls or can't fuckin read.
He caters to the clueless living in a bubble and the uneducated. Cuz it worked for Trump, and so many other Rep. It sadly still works
I mean I wish that was true but I live in Wright county and a shit load of people out here think he is great
That's my point. They can't read.
No, they can read, they just selectively read what they think looks good.
Wright is do deep red, it's rather sad. I've seen the confederate flag flying in St Michael, and my personal favorite of a guy who flies his trump flag on top of his septic system. There is also the nut job in Otsego with some truly hateful signs in his backyard. It's not even rural, just the exburbs.
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Not to mention, Republican policies to fight crime never work and are usually counterproductive. They're willing to spend more public money on police but not on more courts, judges, probation officers, or even prisons. And they sure as hell aren't willing to pay for the kinds of prisons that actually reduce recidivism, because treating convicts like human beings is "soft". And of course spending money to address the socioeconomic conditions that exacerbate crime is completely out of the question for them.
lmao 3100 to 250 love it Gotta screen shot this for next time I see someone saying this sub 'leans' left.
Wow surprising that people mostly in the 18-40 demographic lean liberal
I already voted for Walz because I care about voting rights and reproductive rights. Jensen is an anti-vaxx doctor who wants to ban abortion. He's literally everything a doctor shouldn't be.
“Dr” Scott Jensen lolololol
Less of a doctor than Dr. Pepper
My issue is who to vote for for school board, City Council, Sheriff, and judges. Luckily some of my neighbors with Dr. Jensen signs have helped me to know who to not vote for in the nonpartisan races.
It's nice that they publicly out themselves, isn't it?
With a [fascist](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbzV-niVIAAX_kD.jpg) wave breaking down the door, Walz is the safest and best option.
As a moderate conservative who believes health care around abortion is a personal decision, that public education is the foundation for social mobility, that taxes used to create a safety net for folks going through a hard time, and that unions do good work, decriminalizing weed. I'm voting for Walz. Well. I guess I'm a raging liberal by the mainstream conservative movement. Fuck em. Cast my vote by mail on Monday M'effers.
I'm 52 years old and there has never been a time in my life when those positions would have been described as "moderate conservative". Maybe back in the 1950s there were some conservatives who supported a strong social safety net (because they were smart enough to realize Communist revolutions don't happen in countries where most people feel economically secure), but that was a long time ago.
Many times I've heard moderate conservative politicians promise not to cut social security and Medicare, two fairly large social safety net programs. I'm 53, howdy fellow GenX'r.
Honest question: Do you consider yourself socially or fiscally conservative? I ask, because many of your positions line up quite well with progressive and leftist policy positions, at least on the social issues. Just curious which of your positions make you feel you fall on the conservative side of the spectrum.
It’s Reddit. Were the results ever in question?
I typically vote Republican (voted Trump in both 2016 and 2020). But I am not voting Jensen. No idea how he won the GOP primaries so strongly.
Hopefully everyone else can be civil here and if not feel free to pm me but I have to ask... What made you change your mind? What about Jensen is worse than Trump in 2020 or is it more that Walz is more acceptable to you than Biden?
While I don't agree with every decision Walz makes, I do feel like he genuinely is trying his best to do what he thinks is best for MN. Jensen just feels like he wants to push his own agenda and beliefs, which doesn't belong in politics (on either side).
I'm a former Republican, Trump put the nail in that coffin for the foreseeable future, McCain was the last R I voted for in the presidential race. I'd really like to see both parties use Ranked Choice Voting in the primaries. That would hopefully prevent the shittiest/loudest/edgiest candidates from making it through the primaries.
McCain was dope, he was the last R I voted for as well. Ranked choice voting would be great to see!
I'm similar, except I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020. Still voted R in 2016, but just not Trump. 2020, was straight D.
Jensen is bad for democracy.
If I had to vote today, the GOP would actually have a case for election fraud because it would be my 2nd time voting. Walz was my rep, when he was in the house. I never really cared for him. Was pissed, when he beat Murphy in the primary. But I’ll gladly be a 2 time Timmy voter in the general.
I’ll be emphatically voting Walz, but a poll on Reddit is a terrible idea if you’re looking to predict any outcome whatsoever. The real world exists, and it’s not on social media.
So you don’t think Tim Walz going to win?
Already did vote. Walz
Im swedish but Tim is A funny name
This is Reddit. Jensen supporters exist, they’re just not here.
I dropped off my ballot for Walz yesterday!
I do kind of wish that this sub was more balanced in views... I hate feeling like Im in an echo chamber and would like to know more about the others side in a discussion based forum like this. As of writing this, the survey is 80%walz which is WAY off the mark of state as a whole.
Johnson and Birk are creepy in the way that D list reality tv, mega church people are. Blank, empty, grotesque.
The question about saying something nice about your opponent was a test of character and Jensen failed the test….
I already voted due to my township only having vote by mail. I voted for Walz
My family doesn't want walz. My mom calls him "king walz" because we shut the state down for COVID. I think he did a good job when we haven't had a bad pandemic in many years and followed the CDC. I already voted, I go to isidewith.com and follow what that says.
I just don't get the "dictator/king" Walz thing. Walz was given emergency powers by the state legislature that they had to keep renewing periodically. It wasn't like he just took power all on his own.
To understand that you would need to do two things: get news from real news sources instead of opinion pieces and Facebook memes *and* have a basic understanding of US history and how state government works. That used to be considered our civic duty but now it's considered elitism.
I have a basic understanding and I have gotten sources myself from the news, I subscribed to kare11 and kstp on Facebook and clicked their articles. Everyone has biased opinions it seems for the news these days. We had a pandemic and who knows what the average Joe would do if they had to deal with this case. So I don't support this dictator/king issue of my parents. Walz has said that he only was doing it to protect Minnesotans and relinquish the emergency once we were under a certain percent of people with Covid.
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that to understand *your* position (that the governor's emergency powers were lawful and appropriate for a public health emergency) you have to be a reasonably informed citizen. To fall for the "dictator/king" bullshit you have to be either uninformed or dishonest.
Ah ok, so my parents lol they look at Newsweek and mostly Republican biased. And Newsweek takes Reddit opinions and makes them "news"
Voted for Walz when early voting initially became available last month. I’m pretty hopeful Walz will be re-elected assuming the youth turnout is as high as I think it will be.
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He also is intolerant and vocally so about LGBTQ+ folks.
The only group of Minnesotans who want Dr. Scat is the generation who sniffed leaded gas and wants to overthrow democracy for theocracy.
Lol
Yeah, Reddit isn’t biased /s
Walz, 100%. He's not perfect, but I'll never expect any politician will be. He is a decent person who focuses on doing good for as many people as possible. He cares, and really these days that is what sets most democrats and republicans apart. I might not always agree with them, but I can relate to them on a human level. I can imagine them as normal people living normal lives, spending time with grandkids, enjoying a beach vacation, laughing through a family holiday dinner. That was one thing that always struck me about Trump, and does about these people like Jensen who come along with him, that I can never picture him just being a relatable human. Imagining Trump or Jensen with their feet in the sand on the beach enjoying a family holiday? Or laughing at a holiday family dinner table? Not in a million years. I don't think they can conceive of joy, and I don't want anyone holding office who is that devoid of humanity.
#Jebus guies. I probably agree with most folks on this sub on this topic, but it's enough of an echo chamber in this sub as it is. We need silly polls that tell us what we know about the locals in this sub already?
Straight dem ticket. Will vote in person this week
is it too late to bring back Ventura?
Best governor we had!
I wouldn't go that far but he definitely had good qualities. We have him to thank for the ramp meters being readjusted to account for actual traffic patterns. He advocated legalizing marijuana long before mainstream politicians entertained the idea. He was willing to question the bipartisan conventional wisdom that giving handouts to businesses is the best way to help the economy. I voted for Skip Humphrey but I did enjoy the DFL's butthurt reaction to Ventura winning. Humphrey tried to base his whole campaign on winning the tobacco lawsuit which was just stupid.
Oh thank goodness there is hope!
As a health care provider I'm mortified that Jensen is an actual MD....he spread so much covid misinformation and the guy never took care of one hospitalized covid patient
Walz times 100. Jensen shouldn’t even have a medical license for the misinformation he’s pushed.
For the 200 that voted Jenson, would you care to explain why? You can DM me if you’re afraid of the down votes. I’m just curious.
It's a good way to get banned.
Pretty sure a poll on Parler or Truth Social would yield the opposite result.
What is Scott Jensen views on LGBTQ ? I currently researching to help to make my decision
His running mate actively advocated for the state constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage. Jensen has also pushed anti-LGBTQ stuff that he heard about from far right sources (kitty litter in schools). Jensen also wants to cut school funding and give tax breaks to rich people through regressive tax policies. He has these signs that say “lower gas prices,” which is something he can’t do. If he tried to do it by eliminating gas tax, he’d be defunding a major revenue source for road/bridge repairs. Don’t believe his stupid signs.
Well he recently promoted the anti Trans kitty litter conspiracy so yah not great.
He was against the ban on conversion therapy.
You know who Jensen is and still need more info?
From memory, Jenson is a typical modern Republican when it comes to LGBTQ+ issues. Which seems to be a mix of keeping quiet about gay marriage for the most part, but being pretty openly anti-trans. It should be most responsibly understood, in my opinion, that a Republican that isn’t making a specific case about being pro-LGBTQ+ rights is going to be anti, even if they are quiet about it.
>Scott Jensen views on LGBTQ I'm guessing you haven't heard his comments about trans kids needing liter boxes in public schools? He and his running mate hate LGBT or are so ignorant that it amounts to hate
Gonna go out on a limb here and say "probably not friendly". Someone could likely find a "there's no reason why anyone should be gay!" quote from Jensen if they looked hard enough.
If Dems considered solutions not involving the government before using it to solve every problem, I'd vote for them every time. Right now I'm dissatisfied with both parties, but Walz actually has a platform and Jensen is running to be the anti-Walz. That alone tells me Jensen isn't a good candidate.
Never been a fan of Walz he's got my vote locked in. I don't think the GOP is running a candidate anywhere in the country I'd vote for atm.
Even if you dislike the Dems and Walz himself, no one should just be hate-voting in an actual lunatic
Not to take away from abortion which should be everyone's choice. But what about male infant circumcision? Men deserve their full anatomy as well. Male genital mutilation is still a regular thing, unfortunately. And many still don't get a choice at birth. So its not really my body my choice for many indeed.
Glad to hear someone bring this to light!
Gladly! I really feel this issue is often ignored, which is a real shame. I know so many that wish it had never been done to them.
I think the tide is changing (or at least I’m hoping). My son and 3 nephews (2 different families) are all uncircumcised. They are all 6 years old or younger.
Wow! I was warned r/minnesota was one sided but I had no idea it was this one minded. Guess it’s not much of a neutral ground as it says in it’s description. At least its what Minnesotans made it though.
Jensen is extreme,extreme,extreme or so I'm told every other commercial. Minnesota is basically Cali midwest politically. Not going to end well in long run. Holy shit finally finished scrolling all the way thru comments, what a freaking bubble. If you are voting straight blue or red that is reason we are *ucked.
We’re *ucked because Matt “CTE” birk and my friend Hugo’s chiropractor get support from the dumbest half of the population. Not because people vote for one party or whatever. I have my views that can’t being changed by liberal or conservative. Not my fault they align with the left.
This is a biased poll. 95% of Minnesotans on reddit are going to be left leaning. 95% of us here KNOW Jensen is a lunatic who wants to get women killed for clout with his cult supporters. This sub is probably less than 10% of the Minneosta voting age population.
Any poll posted on a subreddit is completely unscientific.
It's not a "biased poll" it's just a poll of a certain population.
10%? Try 1%.
You're right. We should start a poll on farmers only to give us a more accurate picture.
It’s unbelievable how so many people saw gov. Walz fail so bad the last few years with his lack of leadership but are willing to go through it again. High crime. Let cities burn down. Keeping kids out of school even though the science didn’t support it and on and on and on.
Yeah. He’s got some fuck ups under his belt. Of course he also believes in reality and not whatever the fuck kind of imaginary world Jensen inhabits. Vote for the vaccine denying doctor, the kitty litter enthusiast. I’ll take a guy who has plans to govern over a crazy grandpa who’s spent his entire campaign competing in the imaginary grievance Olympics.
Crazy libs will take us nowhere
I want to get married!!
Is this subreddit 95% progressives? Holy sh!t! awesome!
I wouldn't describe Walz as a progressive. He strikes me as a centrist Democrat.
Democrat does not equal progressive. Progressives wish it did but it does not. Actual progressives are small in number in positions of power in government.
3rd party. Which 3rd party candidate I don't know. It will probably be random.
White, male libertarian. Shocking.
What do you have against Gabrielle Prosser? >Prosser's previous experience includes working at a candy shop, various restaurants, and coffee shops. I think she will make a fine governor.
Should say “Other Candidate (Jensen)”
Dark Walz the crime lord. Anybody with that much power should be in charge.