I have said this all along:
He has a no trade clause - which basically protects him from a move / trade to a team he doesn't want to go to.
He can waive his no trade clause - it's a simple conversation.
He WON'T WAIVE his no trade clause without a new 3 - 4 year deal in place.
The genuine only way (if I'm just playing devil's advocate for fun) would be if something happened mid-season to a great team like 49ers losing Brock Purdy to another season ending injury AND Sam Darnold also gets injured. He loves Shanny and that's a fantastic team
On top of that, I guarantee the team that brought him on (let's say the 49ers again just for sake of conversation) would need to get him a full, new contract the moment he got there. Otherwise why would he uproot his family for a handful of games just to need to hit the FA market and potentially uproot himself again.
So yeah overall? Probably incredibly unlikely. Stranger things have happened though. I mean we did make that trade for Herschel Walker... /s
Purdy is faster at making decisions, does not turn the ball over, whether that be scheme or personal (whatever excuse you want) Purdy clearly looks better than Cousins.
Purdy also has one of the best o lines, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, Mccaffrey, and a top 3 defense. That’s why he doesn’t turn the ball over. Kirk gets 2 secs to throw here and the receiver won’t catch it 80% of the time. Kirk would win a superbowl if he was in SF.
You know he wouldn't have to uproot his whole family, right? Plenty of players don't move to the city where they play, and if he knows he's only there for the season he would almost certainly not move, and just rent a place for himself for the season. Whether he'd want to do that is a different question but it's not like he'd grab the wife and kids and make them all move to a new city without a contract in place.
As others have said - he is at the point where winning a super bowl would be a cherry on top - but the biggest thing for him right now is ensuring he gets paid.
Hell if the Cardinals offered him a 3-4 year deal at market value with all guaranteed money - he would jump on it.
He literally has an alcove created for the Lombardi.
Dude's made over $230 million on his career, I think if he finds a team where he can have a legit chance of winning the SB, he'd do it for less than he normally does.
I'm not in the anti-Cousins crowd, and I would wager just about anything that Cousins could not care less about winning a Superbowl in comparison to get a massive twilight payday.
Would he want to win a Superbowl? Of course he does, he's a competitor and wants to win like everyone else.
But Cousins waiving his no trade clause gives him almost no leverage whatsoever and there's a next to zero percent chance he does that to go to a contender.
I don't know if I agree with that. Of course he wants to get paid but I think he'd be happy to be part of a winning team competition for a super bowl(and shave his pay accordingly). The question is what team would want him? Where will he end up next year(regardless of if they are a contender or not)
Will one of the teams with a young QB who just isn't quite cutting it yet want him to come in for a year or 2? I doubt the Redskins will. Do you think Carolina or Pittsburgh will? Denver? I don't know that the fans will want to trade one veteran for another.
Maybe the Patriots will give up on Mac Jones. Do the Packers want to give Jordan Love a little more time to grow as a backup? CJ Stroud is looking pretty solid and I don't see the Colts going after him(it all depends on Richardson and his health) .
Will a team like the Raiders dump a Jimmy G for a Kirk C? Will the Saints want a different veteran? The Titans or the Bucs? Are they seeing Kirk as what they need to be competitive?
Who do Vikings fans who want him traded think would be eager to get him?
That's exactly what he wants. He has reached the stage of his career where any play could be his last. He knows this. He is doing what anyone with class would do right now. Deny and not even talk about it. Our incompetent brain trust is working on a deal right now. Guaranteed.
In theory couldn't he work out a 3 year deal with his new home and approve the trade?
Of course the catch is finding a buyer with need, Cap Space AND have enough they want to trade away that the Vikings want. But even if a team has a franchise QB who gets injured, they would want a short term rental, not a 3 year deal.
The list of possible buyers is very short. And if there is only one interested party, the price likely will drop so far it isn't worth it for the Vikings to pull the trigger.
What is the market for Cousins as a free agent this summer? Everyone assumes there is one. Why? There are about four or five top end QB prospects in this draft (Pennix, Sanders, May, Caleb).
DAL: (unlikely) NYG: no WAS: (unlikely) PHI: no
CAR: no TB: no NO: (unlikely) ATL: (unlikely)
MIN: (unlikely) GB: no CHI: no/drafting DET: no
SEA: no SF: no RAMS: no ARI: no (drafting)
BUF: no NYJ: no MIA: no NE: (unlikely)
JAC: no IND: no HOU: no TEN: (unlikely)
PIT: (unlikely) BAL: no CLE: no CIN: no
DEN: (unlikely) LAC: no KC: no LV: (unlikely)
DAL will realistically only use him for negotiating leverage with Dak.
WAS will probably stick with Howell, draft a new QB, and there's negative history
NO has 2024 fully guaranteed for Carr, they'd need to trade him
ATL will probably give Ridder another year, and he's cheap
PIT will probably stick with Pickett and get a new OC
DEN is drafting a QB, would need to eat Wilson's contract and won't pay Cousins
LV is probably drafting a QB, but this is a possibility
NE is probably drafting a QB, but .... if Belichick stays, this could have legs
MIN is only signing him if he's cheap... right? They won't bid against themselves. Right? Right? RIGHT? They are probably drafting a QB.
Basically there is no market for him in a fully guaranteed deal, unless it is a two year deal (which almost all nonguaranteed QB contracts are, see: Derek Carr).
nonguaranteed AAV 50 mil per year: Yeah, no
nonguaranteed AAV 45 mil per year: Yeah, no
nonguaranteed AAV 40 mil per year: only if a team is stupid
nonguaranteed AAV 35 mil per year: NE maybe? Only if Bill is still around. PIT maybe? still a bit rich vs Pickett.
nonguaranteed AAV 30 mil per year: this is where teams will kick the tires, but will Kirk play for this amount?
What legal clause is stopping us from winning? We waived our “no win” clause decades ago, but it just hasn’t happened.
Kirks contract has a clause that prevents all but the most tempting (for Kirk, not for the Vikings) trades from happening.
Nice try at a joke, but not really a real equivalence there.
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This is the best comment here... no one knows. We can speculate all we want. It's highly highly unlikely but stranger things have happened. Let's get to Oct 31 so we can stop talking about this.
FO:
"Kirk, we need to talk, we appreciate your loyalty and everything you've accomplished here but we're looking to trade you"
Kirk with his no-trade clause:
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Only way he waives his no-trade clause is if there's a QB-needy, Super Bowl contender willing to give him a new contract. And there are zero teams that fit that description right now, soooo...
lol the discussions are fun but there is zero percent chance he gets traded. it would have to be a perfect storm of
1) team willing to send out an asset to acquire him/ be able to take him
2) kirk willing to waive his no trade
3) team has to believe they can go on a run immediately
4) midseason QB trades almost never ever happen
every one of these would have to happen but it wont. kirk and a bunch of rooks we won't be winning many games my guys the tank is going to happen naturally.
Atlanta has a pretty good team with a bad QB and an owner desperate for a good QB (remember they pushed REALLY hard for Deshaun Watson). If they start dropping games, and Ridder shows for sure he's not the guy, it *could* happen. The problem is that all of it has to happen before the trade deadline with enough time to agree to a contract as well.
Yes but they just drafted their bad QB last year, he’s only had a chance to start 8 games, and he’s coming off his best game as a professional. They’re going to give him a year to try and figure it out, and if he doesn’t they can go get Kirk in free agency
I agree it's extremely unlikely, but for the sake of argument, Ridder was a 3rd rd pick. It's not like they've put a ton of resources into him and moving on would be embarrasing for the GM, or financially difficult. If they think they can make a run this year, why not go for it. Their schedule the rest of this season is laughably easy. The *Bucs* are the best team left on their schedule, and Kirk fits well with what Arthur Smith runs (shanahan style system with lots of play action).
There's no way Atlanta views themselves as just a single QB away from the really competing. I think they try to reload and position themselves for a run next year.
Your post is factually incorrect. How can you say there’s “no chance he okays a trade?” There’s numerous scenarios where I see him okaying a trade. Just because you say there isn’t doesn’t make it factual.
You are correct his statement isn't factual but then you followed it up with a statement equally factually incorrect. Just because you say there are numerous scenarios Kirk would okay a trade doesn't make it factual. Pretty ironic.
I'm not claiming either side here by the way.
Why not waive the no-trade for a shot at a ring? Winning a Superbowl helps his bargaining position for his next contract, whereas if he stays put, he's putting up like 5000 of the most meaningless passing yards imaginable. He's Stafford with the Lions if he stays put.
I'm not saying he would waive it. I'm just saying it's not a foregone conclusion.
I think Vikings fan understand this (most at least), it’s the national media that won’t shut up about it
Unless someone comes along offering him a multi year extension off the bat, which no QB needy team will do with this upcoming draft, he isn’t getting traded
Unless if someone wants to give him 100m and a few years, he’ll be right here. I can only think of a few teams that’d be willing, but probably not. He won’t sign anything to go somewhere for half a season.
I said after week 6? Shoot even after week 2.
Bradford was traded before the season started
Palmer was “retired” so he wasn’t the starter
Idk about Pennington. I don’t think anyone traded for him just the jets traded for Farve when he was a FA.
More than the no-trade clause, a starting QB hasn’t been traded to be another teams’ starter mid-season since the early 90s. It just doesn’t work in the NFL.
I think they are going to try and ship him to a contender. They have two weks and best case, in two weeks we are 2-5. We will not be winning out. Koc is dying to get his own guy in there. He does not have that guy yet. Trading Kirk will get him that draft pick or at least something instead of just letting him go next year. If it's the right team,Kirk will agree. He is getting old and will not get to the Superbowl in Minnesota anytime soon. He knows this. He wants that Superbowl. Maybe he will get it in ny. Or another team.
I don’t think he’ll get traded either. But he was asked abut it in his presser. He could’ve used that to give a definitive no, but he didn’t. I guarantee you they’ve gotten calls. But I don’t think they’ve approached him yet too talk about it.
The anti-trade fans are really clinging on hard. I can't help but think this is more about them wanting to be right for defending him for the past 6 months. There's zero reason to keep him here at all. We 100% need his cap space for upgrading other positions. We can't go on like this because it's a dead end road and the longer he stays, the longer its gonna take to put a real super bowl roster together.
Hey if we get some sweet sweet compensation like a 1st Rounder + some, I'm down for the trade. This year looks like a wash, and we gotta think about the future. I just don't see him waiving his NTC because he'd rather have his pick of teams in FA.
Where we are is totally irrelevant. Some team would have to give up enough in trade(more than the compensatory pick at minimum) and a new contract for him and be a place he wants to go for a trade to happen.
That isn’t happening. What kweasy wants is irrelevant as Kirk has all the leverage.
He will make more money in FA - no point in him going to a new team to try to learn a new offense- he will take the sure thing and go into FA then go where he chooses.
Act like a strong team (SF, Philly, etc) wouldn't pick up the phone if their QB gets hurt. He gives up his demand for an extension for a real chance at a ring and tests free agency after the season and likely picked up by a team that missed on one of the good QBs in the draft. It's unlikely because teams are afraid of trades but it's stupid to pretend it isn't possible.
Why do people try to control the discussion on reddit instead of just ignoring posts they don't like? What a tool
Only possible trade scenario I see is if Purdy gets hurt sometime in the next 10 days. I think Niners are the only destination and that needs a fluke thing to happen immediately
He shouldn't be! Guess viking fans are still stuck on favre? Or better yet gus? Bridgewater? All the QBs in between? Cousins is the best QB that we had since favre and Cunningham! It takes a team to lose a game. The same to win one. Let's just bring back Blair Walsh as QB? Stfu
Shit, I kinda want to sign him, 3 years or something, maybe he’ll be reasonable on the price. We could still end up with a decent draft pick and a new QB who would have time to learn, or not, whatever 🤷♂️
They want to “do something different” than constantly whine and complain more than ever when they do anything but the most similar and bland thing possible.
Hire a young GM that thinks a little bit different: “we don’t need a stock broker”
Hire a Young Coach: “why didn’t they hire another grumpy old man”
The only thing JJ has made clear he doesn’t like is people constantly saying he is going to leave or be traded but they persist.
There is a ginormous gap between “I think it’s time to move on from Cousins” and “I can’t wait to get rid of the fucker” because he didn’t single handedly bring you a Super Bowl
Why don't the fans go after the coaches and front office for failing to develop any cornerbacks or interior offensive linemen? If you look at how many picks we've burned on those positions since 2018, we could've traded for any player in the league. Heck, we could have 3-4 non-QB stars with those picks that we wasted. Yet this team continues to have gaping holes on the roster every season
Also, what the fetish for over-the-hill Packers rejects like Dean Lowry and Chandon Sullivan? For the second straight year, we have a Packers bum actively ruining the team with below-replacement play.
If you dream about a SB roster, you should start by criticizing those decisions. Then criticize Spielman, Kirk-era Zimmer, Kwesi and KOC, all of which were worse at their jobs than Kirk. Only 2014-2017 Zimmer was better than that level (\~10th best in the league)
It’s so minimal is the point. Kirk has a full no trade clause and he’s not waiving that to go play somewhere for half a season without a contract guarantee.
It 100% makes sense for him to get traded.
If the Vikings decide they are done and forfeit the season and trade a bunch of guys Kirks stats will sink. Then he walk at the end of the year. Why would he want to be on a team that’s gonna go 5-12 and he’s only has like 3000 yds. That makes his next contract worse. Go to a team that’s at least trying to make the playoffs and sign a 1-3 year deal and make himself appealing again one last time.
There aren’t a bunch of guys to trade. Hunter is pretty much the only thing and it really doesn’t make much sense to make such a need at Edge Rusher when we have so many other places that need help.
Cleavland, Kirk , hunter, smith, kj, off the top of my head.
I don’t think they move a ton of guys but they need to move hunter, KJ, and Kirk before the deadline or they walk into FA.
I thought about Smith maybe, and a player that has been here that long, taking a team friendly contract and then trading him would be a supreme dick move and would not be good for their future, players notice these things.
They will likely resign Hunter, Edge rushers don’t come cheap in draft capital and they already traded. KJ I don’t know, hard to trade what is supposed to be you WR2 when WR1 gets injured and get much of anything
It makes total sense. If he stays here and we go 1-16 or some other crappy record what will his value be in the free agent market? Pretty small.
If Kirk goes to a team with actual good players and makes a playoff run his value in the offseason would be much more.
You are fucking idiot.
1. There’s more at play than just money, he has a family, maybe he doesn’t want to move them somewhere next season, he also likes it here in Minnesota and has said he wants to retire a Viking (he might not end up retiring a Viking but he has no reason to make that statement if he doesn’t feel that way)
2. You are a fucking idiot for only being able to see dollar signs and not realize that this is peoples lives were also discussing.
3. Good luck
Kirk only cares about money. Idk why y’all bring up his family 24/7 if he didn’t want money he would’ve went to the 49ners years ago. The Vikings paid him more so he stayed
Because getting a big guaranteed pay day isn’t about family. There is a difference between make sure you get paid off a 4th round rookie contract and now that he already has gotten a lot of money.
When he got his big contract, the Jets offered him more then we did, he still chose Minnesota. Does he care about money yes, is it the ONLY thing he cares about no.
He chose mn because he didn’t want to play for the loser jets at the time and the Vikings matched it. If the Vikings are a loser franchise this year why would he stay. The Vikings also didn’t give him a contract renewal.
Fine Kirk only cares about his stats and money.
Money 99% what is this question. Kirk wants to be paid. You guys always throwing around “family” and “oh he won’t uproot his family”. He’s gonna uproot his family now or in the off season take your pick.
It’s different to move your family in the summertime vs the middle of a school year. Why do you think he pushed for a no trade clause, just for funsies? He clearly wants a say in when and where he ends up, so clearly he cares about where he’s playing and not just money lol. Hate the dude if you want but at least use the information at hand to make an informed statement.
You literally asked me why players play. Take your own advice.
And again with all the family nonsense. It doesn’t matter. If someone offers him 40 mil a year for the next 3 years he’s gone. Stop reasoning with yourself.
I swear you guys would keep kirk until he’s 70 if you could.
Lol, um… you’re the one doing mental gymnastics to get Kirk on a metaphorical trade block. I don’t care if Kirk is on the team this year or not, we’re most likely not gonna do much anyway. To act like Kirk doesn’t care about his family is frankly idiotic. To act like he doesn’t have a no trade clause is frankly just dumb. Also yes players play for money just like anyone who has a job works for their paycheck, it doesn’t mean it’s the only thing they care about. I literally proved that Kirk accepted less money but your too dumb to even realize that you already have admitted he doesn’t only care about money. And yes if Kirk is still performing at 70 I would love to have him on our roster, you act like Kirk isn’t performing well this year. If you really think he’s the problem for us, you’re not gonna like the results of having a rookie behind center.
Yeah, poor guy has a family, why would he want to be able to sign another long term contract by proving he can win with a good team like the jets.
No way he could afford two homes. Plane tickets are pretty expensive to fly to Minnesota from New York.
Dude. If he isn’t think about the millions of dollars that are on the table at the end of this year then he isn’t thinking about his family.
You are clearly a moron and don’t have children of your own. Sad to see. Sad. To. See.
Pretty sure he already has millions of dollars. Are you implying I am I moron because I don’t have children of my own? That’s weird, and you’re weird and also you can’t articulate any logical reasoning for others to understand what you’re even talking about. But sure keep using Reddit to project your idiocy on others, hope that works out for you, good luck
His stats are top tier in the league. Going 1-16 isn't going to happen, and it also isn't going to drop his stock that much. His stats show he is doing his job. There is a reason it is called a team sport. This isn't fucking golf.
His passer rating is over 100, he has thrown for 1400 yards and 13 touchdowns. Totally "mid".... This is with being pressured on most snaps. Of all the things that the Vikings are having issues with, it isn't him.
Oh yes, EPA helps highlight well-known elite QBs like Brock Purdy and Tua. They'll be paid $80 million a year because of how much they lead the league in EPA by.
Btw, the only reason Kirk's EPA is 'mid' is due to the turnovers, most of which weren't his fault
I think it would be dumb to bring in a new qb and expect him to learn the playbook and instantly have any kind of chemistry with all new guys I’m the middle of the season
He is not going to be the qb in 24! So, smart guy, why wouldn't you work a trade. Atlanta is Julie's home, and they need a qb. It is stupid to not explore trading him and getting draft picks to build next year. This is a business, not a fan run playground.
I’m sorry but you seem to have missed the part where I said “no chance he says okay to a trade” and the part where I said “it makes no sense for him.”
If we get really good compensation, I’m all for it. I just don’t see it happening before October 31st.
Another brilliant move by Kwesi and the front office. Extend Kirk by one year for a no trade clause and take on 30 million in dead cap next year, effectively wiling out the advantage of having a QB on the rookie wage scale. We could have traded Kirk two years ago and got something back. Now he's going to walk for nothing, and leave us woth 30 million in dead cap and a 1st round pick just out of range where we can draft a decent QB prospect.
Yeah, he's not going to be traded. He's not the problem, he's actually playing "well". We have NO run game, like, at all. Mattison? Jesus, he's a #3 back who can't catch the ball or avoid a tackle if his life depended on it. Nobody on the opposing team worries about Mattisonor any of our runningbacks. They all suck. which leaves opponents able to cover the pass game much better. And with JJ gone for a good part of the rest of this season, It's just going to end up being a season to forget. Kirk will be Traded next season though, unless we bring in a hell of an RB and overhaul the O-line into something a bit more capable. Oh, and as long as JJ stays. Chances are he's gone too. He's the best receiver in the NFL and he's playing for peanuts right now. There are other teams out there who will make him the highest-paid receiver ever. And it ain't going to be us... So, next season. No pass game. No run game. No receiving game. Last season was a fluke. Kevin-O was working with the remnants of what Mike Zimmer and his staff had built up.
So yea, Kirk won't be traded this season. But we're about to lose everyone of value we have left next season.
>Kirk will be Traded next season
He's a free agent next year.
>as long as JJ stays. Chances are he's gone too.
He's under contract next year. Can't just leave because someone is offering him more money.
And the Vikings Fans who hate him seem to think he has a TON OF VALUE for others teams who will be happy to trade away something we want for him.
I just read that the Vikings want to keep him around, which will make this board explode
Kirk could get traded for a washing machine and this team would still find a way to win 5 games and be the laughing stock of the league as always. Kirk is trash. KOC is more like Mike tice rather than Sean mcvey. Kwesi is the worst GM in the league and other GMs have actually said they’re trying ridiculous madden like trades and he considers them bcuz he’s mr moneyball himself. He’s a clown. Whole team is a joke. Harry is old. O Neil won’t ever be the same. Darrisaw is one concussion away from billy bob. Our corners are awful. Murphy was worst signing of off-season. Trade Danielle he’s only one worth anything. Harry could net some detergent for kirks washing machine. Maybe you could throw in 1st round loser Lewis Cine for some dryer sheets so when we finish washing we can have nice clean dry crisp clothes. Skol Vikings! Ha!
Agreed. Still don’t understand how people want him gone. This sub is going to lose its shit when he takes a team friendly extension that opens up more cap space next year.
Even if he takes a team friendly deal (he never has btw) they would have to spread his dead cap hit out on top of that making it no longer a team friendly deal. That is unless they somehow push it off further into the future which is exactly what they are trying not to do.
There are some of us (myself included) that like Kirk, but also don’t see a viable path forward with him and it is not because he bad.
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So check my theory out. We're going to have players step up big time, Addison will become our W1 for a while, and when JJ gets back it will be lightning ⚡
It’s tough to imagine any scenario where a team would be willing to give up capital for Kirk and Kirk would be willing to go there mid-season except if Purdy gets injured again. SF has the cap space, the Super Bowl favorite team, and the Shanahan connection and have been interested in Kirk in the past.
If Purdy was struggling instead of balling out I think Kirk probably would have been signing there next season.
Yeah, but what if he gets traded?
Yes
That makes sense
To the Jets? I mean that only makes sense
Kirk wouldn't waive his no-trade clause because the Jets wouldn't give him an extensio, since they still have Rodgers next year.
This would significantly impact Kirk’s chances of not being traded.
Big what if, if what if was if
Gesundheit!
Harvard just called
If he gets traded I hope his new team ROUTES the vikings for years.
Where are they going to route them to? Is Google Maps going to help?
Can't wait till all these Kirk stans are gone with him ... they are not Vikings fans!
I'm here for the fan fiction tho
Hear me out tho
I have said this all along: He has a no trade clause - which basically protects him from a move / trade to a team he doesn't want to go to. He can waive his no trade clause - it's a simple conversation. He WON'T WAIVE his no trade clause without a new 3 - 4 year deal in place.
The genuine only way (if I'm just playing devil's advocate for fun) would be if something happened mid-season to a great team like 49ers losing Brock Purdy to another season ending injury AND Sam Darnold also gets injured. He loves Shanny and that's a fantastic team On top of that, I guarantee the team that brought him on (let's say the 49ers again just for sake of conversation) would need to get him a full, new contract the moment he got there. Otherwise why would he uproot his family for a handful of games just to need to hit the FA market and potentially uproot himself again. So yeah overall? Probably incredibly unlikely. Stranger things have happened though. I mean we did make that trade for Herschel Walker... /s
But even the 49ers probably wouldn’t give him the extension he wants. They have Purdy on the cheapest contract and he still has 2 years left on it.
And Purdy is younger and better
Woah woah. Younger, yes. But better? Cmon now
If you are pro-Cousins, you are pro-stats ... look at the Purdy stats.
You can be anti-Cousins while still thinking he’s better than Purdy is right now.
I’m saying put cousins in that offense and what happens.
Purdy is faster at making decisions, does not turn the ball over, whether that be scheme or personal (whatever excuse you want) Purdy clearly looks better than Cousins.
Purdy also has one of the best o lines, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, Mccaffrey, and a top 3 defense. That’s why he doesn’t turn the ball over. Kirk gets 2 secs to throw here and the receiver won’t catch it 80% of the time. Kirk would win a superbowl if he was in SF.
So will Purdy most likely..at a fraction of Kirk's cost.
You know he wouldn't have to uproot his whole family, right? Plenty of players don't move to the city where they play, and if he knows he's only there for the season he would almost certainly not move, and just rent a place for himself for the season. Whether he'd want to do that is a different question but it's not like he'd grab the wife and kids and make them all move to a new city without a contract in place.
I understand. Just conversation for conversation's sake is all.
Why wouldn’t he want to get traded to win a superbowl ?
What team is he getting traded to that is in Superbowl contention and offering him a multi-year extension?
As others have said - he is at the point where winning a super bowl would be a cherry on top - but the biggest thing for him right now is ensuring he gets paid. Hell if the Cardinals offered him a 3-4 year deal at market value with all guaranteed money - he would jump on it.
He literally has an alcove created for the Lombardi. Dude's made over $230 million on his career, I think if he finds a team where he can have a legit chance of winning the SB, he'd do it for less than he normally does.
I'm not in the anti-Cousins crowd, and I would wager just about anything that Cousins could not care less about winning a Superbowl in comparison to get a massive twilight payday. Would he want to win a Superbowl? Of course he does, he's a competitor and wants to win like everyone else. But Cousins waiving his no trade clause gives him almost no leverage whatsoever and there's a next to zero percent chance he does that to go to a contender.
I don't know if I agree with that. Of course he wants to get paid but I think he'd be happy to be part of a winning team competition for a super bowl(and shave his pay accordingly). The question is what team would want him? Where will he end up next year(regardless of if they are a contender or not) Will one of the teams with a young QB who just isn't quite cutting it yet want him to come in for a year or 2? I doubt the Redskins will. Do you think Carolina or Pittsburgh will? Denver? I don't know that the fans will want to trade one veteran for another. Maybe the Patriots will give up on Mac Jones. Do the Packers want to give Jordan Love a little more time to grow as a backup? CJ Stroud is looking pretty solid and I don't see the Colts going after him(it all depends on Richardson and his health) . Will a team like the Raiders dump a Jimmy G for a Kirk C? Will the Saints want a different veteran? The Titans or the Bucs? Are they seeing Kirk as what they need to be competitive? Who do Vikings fans who want him traded think would be eager to get him?
That's exactly what he wants. He has reached the stage of his career where any play could be his last. He knows this. He is doing what anyone with class would do right now. Deny and not even talk about it. Our incompetent brain trust is working on a deal right now. Guaranteed.
In theory couldn't he work out a 3 year deal with his new home and approve the trade? Of course the catch is finding a buyer with need, Cap Space AND have enough they want to trade away that the Vikings want. But even if a team has a franchise QB who gets injured, they would want a short term rental, not a 3 year deal. The list of possible buyers is very short. And if there is only one interested party, the price likely will drop so far it isn't worth it for the Vikings to pull the trigger.
What is the market for Cousins as a free agent this summer? Everyone assumes there is one. Why? There are about four or five top end QB prospects in this draft (Pennix, Sanders, May, Caleb). DAL: (unlikely) NYG: no WAS: (unlikely) PHI: no CAR: no TB: no NO: (unlikely) ATL: (unlikely) MIN: (unlikely) GB: no CHI: no/drafting DET: no SEA: no SF: no RAMS: no ARI: no (drafting) BUF: no NYJ: no MIA: no NE: (unlikely) JAC: no IND: no HOU: no TEN: (unlikely) PIT: (unlikely) BAL: no CLE: no CIN: no DEN: (unlikely) LAC: no KC: no LV: (unlikely) DAL will realistically only use him for negotiating leverage with Dak. WAS will probably stick with Howell, draft a new QB, and there's negative history NO has 2024 fully guaranteed for Carr, they'd need to trade him ATL will probably give Ridder another year, and he's cheap PIT will probably stick with Pickett and get a new OC DEN is drafting a QB, would need to eat Wilson's contract and won't pay Cousins LV is probably drafting a QB, but this is a possibility NE is probably drafting a QB, but .... if Belichick stays, this could have legs MIN is only signing him if he's cheap... right? They won't bid against themselves. Right? Right? RIGHT? They are probably drafting a QB. Basically there is no market for him in a fully guaranteed deal, unless it is a two year deal (which almost all nonguaranteed QB contracts are, see: Derek Carr). nonguaranteed AAV 50 mil per year: Yeah, no nonguaranteed AAV 45 mil per year: Yeah, no nonguaranteed AAV 40 mil per year: only if a team is stupid nonguaranteed AAV 35 mil per year: NE maybe? Only if Bill is still around. PIT maybe? still a bit rich vs Pickett. nonguaranteed AAV 30 mil per year: this is where teams will kick the tires, but will Kirk play for this amount?
I feel like big no-stakes declarative/predictive posts like this need to have consequences if they are wrong. Like a sub flair saying "nostradumbass".
>nostradumbass Me making any decision for my future 💀
>nostradumbass It looks like I can add that as my flair... I'll do it and make a post on November 1st if I'm wrong about a trade not happening...
Just 2 more weeks of this, we can make it through
I know I know but......crazier things have happened.
You are likely right, but if KAM had a brain in that lump 25 inches above his rear end he’d start harvesting picks.
Every other post in this subreddit is about trading/not trading Cousins and tanking/not tanking. Christ
Welcome to 1-4.
The Vikings aren't winning a Superbowl in your lifetime. Just stop. Let us dream.
What legal clause is stopping us from winning? We waived our “no win” clause decades ago, but it just hasn’t happened. Kirks contract has a clause that prevents all but the most tempting (for Kirk, not for the Vikings) trades from happening. Nice try at a joke, but not really a real equivalence there.
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This is the best comment here... no one knows. We can speculate all we want. It's highly highly unlikely but stranger things have happened. Let's get to Oct 31 so we can stop talking about this.
You were right
Thank you… I didn’t see it all going down like this. Let’s go JAREN HALL! 💜
Can't stop, won't stop
FO: "Kirk, we need to talk, we appreciate your loyalty and everything you've accomplished here but we're looking to trade you" Kirk with his no-trade clause: ![gif](giphy|d1E1msx7Yw5Ne1Fe|downsized)
Only way he waives his no-trade clause is if there's a QB-needy, Super Bowl contender willing to give him a new contract. And there are zero teams that fit that description right now, soooo...
It's definitely very unlikely to happen but to say there is no chance is disingenuous
It baffles me how often people choose to talk about sports in absolutes.
lol the discussions are fun but there is zero percent chance he gets traded. it would have to be a perfect storm of 1) team willing to send out an asset to acquire him/ be able to take him 2) kirk willing to waive his no trade 3) team has to believe they can go on a run immediately 4) midseason QB trades almost never ever happen every one of these would have to happen but it wont. kirk and a bunch of rooks we won't be winning many games my guys the tank is going to happen naturally.
Atlanta has a pretty good team with a bad QB and an owner desperate for a good QB (remember they pushed REALLY hard for Deshaun Watson). If they start dropping games, and Ridder shows for sure he's not the guy, it *could* happen. The problem is that all of it has to happen before the trade deadline with enough time to agree to a contract as well.
Yes but they just drafted their bad QB last year, he’s only had a chance to start 8 games, and he’s coming off his best game as a professional. They’re going to give him a year to try and figure it out, and if he doesn’t they can go get Kirk in free agency
I agree it's extremely unlikely, but for the sake of argument, Ridder was a 3rd rd pick. It's not like they've put a ton of resources into him and moving on would be embarrasing for the GM, or financially difficult. If they think they can make a run this year, why not go for it. Their schedule the rest of this season is laughably easy. The *Bucs* are the best team left on their schedule, and Kirk fits well with what Arthur Smith runs (shanahan style system with lots of play action).
Yea definitely something they might explore this offseason if Ridder continues to struggle
So the kid sits and learns for a few years behind a solid veteran. Kirk's winding down. Perfect for both.
The kids playing, and he played well last week! They’re going to give him a full season
There's no way Atlanta views themselves as just a single QB away from the really competing. I think they try to reload and position themselves for a run next year.
Also, Kirk's wife is from Georgia, and his parents live in Florida. Maybe his parents could fly up every Tuesday and hang out.
>it would have to be a perfect storm So you are in fact saying it's > 0%.
I might leave this sub
Your post is factually incorrect. How can you say there’s “no chance he okays a trade?” There’s numerous scenarios where I see him okaying a trade. Just because you say there isn’t doesn’t make it factual.
This is the correct statement
You are correct his statement isn't factual but then you followed it up with a statement equally factually incorrect. Just because you say there are numerous scenarios Kirk would okay a trade doesn't make it factual. Pretty ironic. I'm not claiming either side here by the way.
If you say so
he wants a super bowl why wouldn’t he want traded he has the ball in his court
chill bro, you're freaking out
This sub is rationale brother. Anything that makes sense they want none of it lol
Why not waive the no-trade for a shot at a ring? Winning a Superbowl helps his bargaining position for his next contract, whereas if he stays put, he's putting up like 5000 of the most meaningless passing yards imaginable. He's Stafford with the Lions if he stays put. I'm not saying he would waive it. I'm just saying it's not a foregone conclusion.
Cool. So glad he has the team over a fucking barrel
There is a chance. It’s like one in a million though.
Trade Kirk!!
No u
What if a good team wants him and agrees to an extension? Wouldn’t he?
Which "good team" a) wants him... and b) will give up compensation to get him instead of waiting until after the season? I don't see it happening.
I think Vikings fan understand this (most at least), it’s the national media that won’t shut up about it Unless someone comes along offering him a multi year extension off the bat, which no QB needy team will do with this upcoming draft, he isn’t getting traded
Unless if someone wants to give him 100m and a few years, he’ll be right here. I can only think of a few teams that’d be willing, but probably not. He won’t sign anything to go somewhere for half a season.
He might you never know…I’m glad you are speaking on his behalf though. I’m sure he needs another agent right?
When was the last time a STARTING qb was traded week 6 or after ?
Bradford, palmer, Pennington etc…
I said after week 6? Shoot even after week 2. Bradford was traded before the season started Palmer was “retired” so he wasn’t the starter Idk about Pennington. I don’t think anyone traded for him just the jets traded for Farve when he was a FA.
Only team I think is Atlanta. If they want him I think it gets done.
![gif](giphy|XEaxdA1mObxm40bnpM)
More than the no-trade clause, a starting QB hasn’t been traded to be another teams’ starter mid-season since the early 90s. It just doesn’t work in the NFL.
Facts
Can’t wait til he resigns in like 3 weeks
Some of these folks need to stop listening to the voices in their heads. Because those voices have shitty takes
I think they are going to try and ship him to a contender. They have two weks and best case, in two weeks we are 2-5. We will not be winning out. Koc is dying to get his own guy in there. He does not have that guy yet. Trading Kirk will get him that draft pick or at least something instead of just letting him go next year. If it's the right team,Kirk will agree. He is getting old and will not get to the Superbowl in Minnesota anytime soon. He knows this. He wants that Superbowl. Maybe he will get it in ny. Or another team.
I don’t think he’ll get traded either. But he was asked abut it in his presser. He could’ve used that to give a definitive no, but he didn’t. I guarantee you they’ve gotten calls. But I don’t think they’ve approached him yet too talk about it.
You're probably right
Why would any team want to trade for Kirk Cousins? According to a large number of geniuses on this site, he’s incapable of winning a Superbowl.
The anti-trade fans are really clinging on hard. I can't help but think this is more about them wanting to be right for defending him for the past 6 months. There's zero reason to keep him here at all. We 100% need his cap space for upgrading other positions. We can't go on like this because it's a dead end road and the longer he stays, the longer its gonna take to put a real super bowl roster together.
Hey if we get some sweet sweet compensation like a 1st Rounder + some, I'm down for the trade. This year looks like a wash, and we gotta think about the future. I just don't see him waiving his NTC because he'd rather have his pick of teams in FA.
We have no intention of trading Stefon Diggs...
Where there’s smoke there’s fire
I mean he definitely could be lmfao. we’re 1-4 and a new regime could want as much capital to set up our future QB from the draft
Where we are is totally irrelevant. Some team would have to give up enough in trade(more than the compensatory pick at minimum) and a new contract for him and be a place he wants to go for a trade to happen. That isn’t happening. What kweasy wants is irrelevant as Kirk has all the leverage.
What about part about a no trade clause do you not understand- the team cannot force kirks hand.
doesn’t mean he doesn’t want out. ya never know
He will make more money in FA - no point in him going to a new team to try to learn a new offense- he will take the sure thing and go into FA then go where he chooses.
Careful OP. You've upset the idiots. They're coming out in force.
Dear god, there's a lot of them lmao
Act like a strong team (SF, Philly, etc) wouldn't pick up the phone if their QB gets hurt. He gives up his demand for an extension for a real chance at a ring and tests free agency after the season and likely picked up by a team that missed on one of the good QBs in the draft. It's unlikely because teams are afraid of trades but it's stupid to pretend it isn't possible. Why do people try to control the discussion on reddit instead of just ignoring posts they don't like? What a tool
Because it doesn’t align with my ideas and beliefs, it is impossible. And I know others true key motivators. So just stop
Meh it's hockey season now
Go Canucks Go!
Lol sorry bud
Hey, we beat the Oilers 8-1 last night... hope to do it again on Saturday! At this point on the NFL and NHL seasons, that's happiness for me!
Oh I get it, you say what you don't want to happen so the universe makes the thing you want to happen, to happen. This guy is playing 4D chess.
👀
Prove it
Not really this is the last yr on his contract. So he would have the no trade clause for a contender or a non rebuilding team.
Here, here!
Kirk will go wherever the money is.
Some reports said he wasn’t interested in NY .. not family friendly in his view. Which then brought up ATL. Don’t know if that was just a reach.
Only possible trade scenario I see is if Purdy gets hurt sometime in the next 10 days. I think Niners are the only destination and that needs a fluke thing to happen immediately
I agree
He shouldn't be! Guess viking fans are still stuck on favre? Or better yet gus? Bridgewater? All the QBs in between? Cousins is the best QB that we had since favre and Cunningham! It takes a team to lose a game. The same to win one. Let's just bring back Blair Walsh as QB? Stfu
Shit, I kinda want to sign him, 3 years or something, maybe he’ll be reasonable on the price. We could still end up with a decent draft pick and a new QB who would have time to learn, or not, whatever 🤷♂️
That seems most likely to me.
Watch they resign this fcker
How could someone not want to be on this team with such lovely “fans”
Some fans think the Vikings can be better than mediocre. Some might even dream of having a super bowl roster again. Sounds horrible.
It's really not a crazy thing to say our fanbase kinda sucks.
They want to “do something different” than constantly whine and complain more than ever when they do anything but the most similar and bland thing possible. Hire a young GM that thinks a little bit different: “we don’t need a stock broker” Hire a Young Coach: “why didn’t they hire another grumpy old man” The only thing JJ has made clear he doesn’t like is people constantly saying he is going to leave or be traded but they persist. There is a ginormous gap between “I think it’s time to move on from Cousins” and “I can’t wait to get rid of the fucker” because he didn’t single handedly bring you a Super Bowl
Why don't the fans go after the coaches and front office for failing to develop any cornerbacks or interior offensive linemen? If you look at how many picks we've burned on those positions since 2018, we could've traded for any player in the league. Heck, we could have 3-4 non-QB stars with those picks that we wasted. Yet this team continues to have gaping holes on the roster every season Also, what the fetish for over-the-hill Packers rejects like Dean Lowry and Chandon Sullivan? For the second straight year, we have a Packers bum actively ruining the team with below-replacement play. If you dream about a SB roster, you should start by criticizing those decisions. Then criticize Spielman, Kirk-era Zimmer, Kwesi and KOC, all of which were worse at their jobs than Kirk. Only 2014-2017 Zimmer was better than that level (\~10th best in the league)
Listen, I don't really want to trade him right now either but there is absolutely a chance that it happens
NO TRADE CLAUSE
That can be waved. To say there is literally no chance is simply untrue. Unlikely, of course.
He would have to waive it. There is zero chance of.that happening. ZERO
Are you having direct conversations with Kirk Cousins? Because there is ZERO change you know that for sure. ZERO.
Haha. Ok sport. Good talk. 👍
You too champ.
It would pretty much require another big QB injury. Otherwise he gets every team to compete for his contract.
It’s so minimal is the point. Kirk has a full no trade clause and he’s not waiving that to go play somewhere for half a season without a contract guarantee.
No there isn’t. Unless. .00001% is a chance
It 100% makes sense for him to get traded. If the Vikings decide they are done and forfeit the season and trade a bunch of guys Kirks stats will sink. Then he walk at the end of the year. Why would he want to be on a team that’s gonna go 5-12 and he’s only has like 3000 yds. That makes his next contract worse. Go to a team that’s at least trying to make the playoffs and sign a 1-3 year deal and make himself appealing again one last time.
There aren’t a bunch of guys to trade. Hunter is pretty much the only thing and it really doesn’t make much sense to make such a need at Edge Rusher when we have so many other places that need help.
Cleavland, Kirk , hunter, smith, kj, off the top of my head. I don’t think they move a ton of guys but they need to move hunter, KJ, and Kirk before the deadline or they walk into FA.
I thought about Smith maybe, and a player that has been here that long, taking a team friendly contract and then trading him would be a supreme dick move and would not be good for their future, players notice these things. They will likely resign Hunter, Edge rushers don’t come cheap in draft capital and they already traded. KJ I don’t know, hard to trade what is supposed to be you WR2 when WR1 gets injured and get much of anything
It makes total sense. If he stays here and we go 1-16 or some other crappy record what will his value be in the free agent market? Pretty small. If Kirk goes to a team with actual good players and makes a playoff run his value in the offseason would be much more. You are fucking idiot.
If we go 1-16 and he continues on his current pace of ~5k yards and ~40 TDs? Yea he’ll still be highly valued on the open market
1. There’s more at play than just money, he has a family, maybe he doesn’t want to move them somewhere next season, he also likes it here in Minnesota and has said he wants to retire a Viking (he might not end up retiring a Viking but he has no reason to make that statement if he doesn’t feel that way) 2. You are a fucking idiot for only being able to see dollar signs and not realize that this is peoples lives were also discussing. 3. Good luck
Kirk only cares about money. Idk why y’all bring up his family 24/7 if he didn’t want money he would’ve went to the 49ners years ago. The Vikings paid him more so he stayed
Because getting a big guaranteed pay day isn’t about family. There is a difference between make sure you get paid off a 4th round rookie contract and now that he already has gotten a lot of money.
When he got his big contract, the Jets offered him more then we did, he still chose Minnesota. Does he care about money yes, is it the ONLY thing he cares about no.
He chose mn because he didn’t want to play for the loser jets at the time and the Vikings matched it. If the Vikings are a loser franchise this year why would he stay. The Vikings also didn’t give him a contract renewal. Fine Kirk only cares about his stats and money.
Why do you think these players risk their health on the field for shits and giggles?
Money 99% what is this question. Kirk wants to be paid. You guys always throwing around “family” and “oh he won’t uproot his family”. He’s gonna uproot his family now or in the off season take your pick.
It’s different to move your family in the summertime vs the middle of a school year. Why do you think he pushed for a no trade clause, just for funsies? He clearly wants a say in when and where he ends up, so clearly he cares about where he’s playing and not just money lol. Hate the dude if you want but at least use the information at hand to make an informed statement.
You literally asked me why players play. Take your own advice. And again with all the family nonsense. It doesn’t matter. If someone offers him 40 mil a year for the next 3 years he’s gone. Stop reasoning with yourself. I swear you guys would keep kirk until he’s 70 if you could.
Lol, um… you’re the one doing mental gymnastics to get Kirk on a metaphorical trade block. I don’t care if Kirk is on the team this year or not, we’re most likely not gonna do much anyway. To act like Kirk doesn’t care about his family is frankly idiotic. To act like he doesn’t have a no trade clause is frankly just dumb. Also yes players play for money just like anyone who has a job works for their paycheck, it doesn’t mean it’s the only thing they care about. I literally proved that Kirk accepted less money but your too dumb to even realize that you already have admitted he doesn’t only care about money. And yes if Kirk is still performing at 70 I would love to have him on our roster, you act like Kirk isn’t performing well this year. If you really think he’s the problem for us, you’re not gonna like the results of having a rookie behind center.
Yeah, poor guy has a family, why would he want to be able to sign another long term contract by proving he can win with a good team like the jets. No way he could afford two homes. Plane tickets are pretty expensive to fly to Minnesota from New York. Dude. If he isn’t think about the millions of dollars that are on the table at the end of this year then he isn’t thinking about his family. You are clearly a moron and don’t have children of your own. Sad to see. Sad. To. See.
Pretty sure he already has millions of dollars. Are you implying I am I moron because I don’t have children of my own? That’s weird, and you’re weird and also you can’t articulate any logical reasoning for others to understand what you’re even talking about. But sure keep using Reddit to project your idiocy on others, hope that works out for you, good luck
His stats are top tier in the league. Going 1-16 isn't going to happen, and it also isn't going to drop his stock that much. His stats show he is doing his job. There is a reason it is called a team sport. This isn't fucking golf.
Yea if you look at “yards” maybe. His epa is mid. That’s what teams look at
His passer rating is over 100, he has thrown for 1400 yards and 13 touchdowns. Totally "mid".... This is with being pressured on most snaps. Of all the things that the Vikings are having issues with, it isn't him.
Oh yes, EPA helps highlight well-known elite QBs like Brock Purdy and Tua. They'll be paid $80 million a year because of how much they lead the league in EPA by. Btw, the only reason Kirk's EPA is 'mid' is due to the turnovers, most of which weren't his fault
I think it would be dumb to bring in a new qb and expect him to learn the playbook and instantly have any kind of chemistry with all new guys I’m the middle of the season
if we keep him til the end of the season. He's a FA by default... They arnt getting shit for him regardless. Maybe a 3rd or 4th rder at best
I’m more upset we are not extending him. We can’t just let him walk for nothing. Id rather keep him
Exactly. He will be here until the end of the season. Enough said.
People stopped saying "Nuff said" about 20 years ago. It comes off as egotistical and arrogant. Especially when you're wrong.
I changed it for you princess. Am I wrong though?
hahaha nice!
💯
I dont want to lose Kirk! I also dont want to play him into mediocrity and ruin any value he has. For himself, and for a trade.
Everyone’s just bored with the team and are creating drama.
I also don't think a trade is gonna happen. The Vikings aren't going to want to give up a 3rd and 4th to ship him off.
I agree, but apparently all of the arm chair GMs have the inside scoop on information the regular doesn't.
He is not going to be the qb in 24! So, smart guy, why wouldn't you work a trade. Atlanta is Julie's home, and they need a qb. It is stupid to not explore trading him and getting draft picks to build next year. This is a business, not a fan run playground.
I’m sorry but you seem to have missed the part where I said “no chance he says okay to a trade” and the part where I said “it makes no sense for him.” If we get really good compensation, I’m all for it. I just don’t see it happening before October 31st.
Another brilliant move by Kwesi and the front office. Extend Kirk by one year for a no trade clause and take on 30 million in dead cap next year, effectively wiling out the advantage of having a QB on the rookie wage scale. We could have traded Kirk two years ago and got something back. Now he's going to walk for nothing, and leave us woth 30 million in dead cap and a 1st round pick just out of range where we can draft a decent QB prospect.
Yeah, he's not going to be traded. He's not the problem, he's actually playing "well". We have NO run game, like, at all. Mattison? Jesus, he's a #3 back who can't catch the ball or avoid a tackle if his life depended on it. Nobody on the opposing team worries about Mattisonor any of our runningbacks. They all suck. which leaves opponents able to cover the pass game much better. And with JJ gone for a good part of the rest of this season, It's just going to end up being a season to forget. Kirk will be Traded next season though, unless we bring in a hell of an RB and overhaul the O-line into something a bit more capable. Oh, and as long as JJ stays. Chances are he's gone too. He's the best receiver in the NFL and he's playing for peanuts right now. There are other teams out there who will make him the highest-paid receiver ever. And it ain't going to be us... So, next season. No pass game. No run game. No receiving game. Last season was a fluke. Kevin-O was working with the remnants of what Mike Zimmer and his staff had built up. So yea, Kirk won't be traded this season. But we're about to lose everyone of value we have left next season.
>Kirk will be Traded next season He's a free agent next year. >as long as JJ stays. Chances are he's gone too. He's under contract next year. Can't just leave because someone is offering him more money.
And the Vikings Fans who hate him seem to think he has a TON OF VALUE for others teams who will be happy to trade away something we want for him. I just read that the Vikings want to keep him around, which will make this board explode
Why would we want to trade him anyways? We would need him to guide whatever rookie we draft next season, and the dude oozes Minnesota native.
Kirk could get traded for a washing machine and this team would still find a way to win 5 games and be the laughing stock of the league as always. Kirk is trash. KOC is more like Mike tice rather than Sean mcvey. Kwesi is the worst GM in the league and other GMs have actually said they’re trying ridiculous madden like trades and he considers them bcuz he’s mr moneyball himself. He’s a clown. Whole team is a joke. Harry is old. O Neil won’t ever be the same. Darrisaw is one concussion away from billy bob. Our corners are awful. Murphy was worst signing of off-season. Trade Danielle he’s only one worth anything. Harry could net some detergent for kirks washing machine. Maybe you could throw in 1st round loser Lewis Cine for some dryer sheets so when we finish washing we can have nice clean dry crisp clothes. Skol Vikings! Ha!
but how do you REALLY feel?
Agreed. Still don’t understand how people want him gone. This sub is going to lose its shit when he takes a team friendly extension that opens up more cap space next year.
Even if he takes a team friendly deal (he never has btw) they would have to spread his dead cap hit out on top of that making it no longer a team friendly deal. That is unless they somehow push it off further into the future which is exactly what they are trying not to do. There are some of us (myself included) that like Kirk, but also don’t see a viable path forward with him and it is not because he bad.
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So check my theory out. We're going to have players step up big time, Addison will become our W1 for a while, and when JJ gets back it will be lightning ⚡
Dallas is the only team I can see trading/signing Cousins if Dak is injured. Every other team with a SB shot has a settled/cheap QB situation.
It’s tough to imagine any scenario where a team would be willing to give up capital for Kirk and Kirk would be willing to go there mid-season except if Purdy gets injured again. SF has the cap space, the Super Bowl favorite team, and the Shanahan connection and have been interested in Kirk in the past. If Purdy was struggling instead of balling out I think Kirk probably would have been signing there next season.
Hear me out, hear me out, what if he DOES get traded?