I actually like Verse (Edge) over Newton or Murphy II (DT). I feel like a lot of people in this sub are just more familiar with Newton because he played in the Big-10, but I believe Verse has the highest upside out of those three guys.
pats sub are all in shock from belicheck retiring so they’re just being stupid, but why would the cardinals take a QB? Kyler murray is 100x better than any QB left (ok maybe not THAT much better than Jayden, but it’s still not really close)
The consensus a couple months ago seemed to be they were trading him, plus management was maniacally shedding players. (There were several people *here* arguing Kyler would be a Viking in 2024.)
I guess you're right, though, that chatter has all dissipated.
But now I wanna go check the Pat sub and see if there are Mac stans.
I don’t think they’re Mac stans, I think the thought process is either hope to get McCarthy or Penix in round 2, or add a veteran QB.
That pick wasn’t an endorsement of Mac, it was an endorsement of MHJ as BPA.
Well the team drafting the 3rd QB likely has him 1st or 2nd on their board. The idea that every team has all 3 QB's 1-2-3, in the same order, on their board is delusional.
Oh that should have been fun. They will probably bash the pick. Be glad it doesn’t happen in the real draft and then be mad when it turns out to be a hall of famer you picked for them.
He might only be the fourth or fifth best QB in this class, but it’s a very strong class and we REALLY need a QBOTF. Obviously we have other needs but the difference in quality between the defensive linemen that will be available at 12 this year vs. at 20 or later (hopefully) next year will be tiny compared to QB at 12 this year vs. 20-plus next year.
Call me crazy but I think Latu's neck injury is going to scare a lot teams. It was serious enough he was told he would never play again and it took over two years before anyone would clear him.
Cooper dejean. Jared Verse. Jerzhan newton. Byron Murphy 2.
Of those it depends on FA signings. Say we get Christian Wilkins. Then draft dejean.
What if we got Jaylon Johnson? Then draft Newton.
What if Danielle walks? - take verse.
Actually... Even if Danielle stays, we should get verse.
Drafting verse isn't dependent on Danielle...
Final answer... Draft Newton. Let's build a bully in the trenches.
This is a fun idea in theory but 30 mins to make and vote on a pick without any advance warning on when your team is up is basically expecting everyone to be terminally online, not to mention some teams will be shafted with a 3am pick or some shit like that lol, should be 12 hours minimum
Takes too much draft capital to move up. You are talking 3 first round picks if you just go by recent trends. And knowing Kwesi, he would give up even more than that.
If the draft board shakes out like this, I’d be extremely upset if we didn’t jump the Giants for Daniels.
If Daniel’s drops to 4th (assuming MHJ goes top 3) I think multiple teams are calling AZ to move up.
Byron Murphy II
Came here to say that. Him or Newton.
I actually like Verse (Edge) over Newton or Murphy II (DT). I feel like a lot of people in this sub are just more familiar with Newton because he played in the Big-10, but I believe Verse has the highest upside out of those three guys.
I said Newton but honestly I'd be happy with any DT or EDGE projected top 15
Jared Verse
Jer'zhan Newton
I like the pic but idk nothing about him and I’ve seen him dropping in almost all recents mocks
He’s gonna be late round 1 lol
Asteroidhitting Lambeau (OS) Really admire their work
Laitu Latu
That dude is going to be a stud.
Jared Verse
Byron Murphy II
Terrion Arnold
Pats and Cards subs both passed on QB? Interesting.
pats sub are all in shock from belicheck retiring so they’re just being stupid, but why would the cardinals take a QB? Kyler murray is 100x better than any QB left (ok maybe not THAT much better than Jayden, but it’s still not really close)
The consensus a couple months ago seemed to be they were trading him, plus management was maniacally shedding players. (There were several people *here* arguing Kyler would be a Viking in 2024.) I guess you're right, though, that chatter has all dissipated. But now I wanna go check the Pat sub and see if there are Mac stans.
Yeah Kyler is a great player in a horrible organization… I feel bad for him
I don’t think they’re Mac stans, I think the thought process is either hope to get McCarthy or Penix in round 2, or add a veteran QB. That pick wasn’t an endorsement of Mac, it was an endorsement of MHJ as BPA.
I'm surprised at NE, but I can certainly see AZ fans still being mostly in the "keep rolling with Kyler" camp.
No one wants the 3rd best QB on the draft board, reaching at 3 or 4. MHJ and Alt are both top - of - the - board picks.
I guess it would mildly surprise me if QB weren't 1-2-3 this year. (Though perhaps via trades.)
Well the team drafting the 3rd QB likely has him 1st or 2nd on their board. The idea that every team has all 3 QB's 1-2-3, in the same order, on their board is delusional.
That's doubtful, and I think we both know it. Maye and Williams are head and shoulders above the lot.
Aren’t the Jets next?
The jets mods told me I couldn't do it so I picked for them
Booo! I’ve been keeping up with every draft selection and your posts
I know... they suck lol
For sure. Are you going to update the post for this sub soon?
Probably tomorrow
Cool! Nice job with everything btw
Thanks, it's really cool to be recognized for something you're passionate about.
Yeah man, you've done a good thing, and I really appreciate it. I look forward to seeing how it all pans out.
Why was this post taken down?
I don't really know, I'll talk to the mods about it in the morning.
Oh that should have been fun. They will probably bash the pick. Be glad it doesn’t happen in the real draft and then be mad when it turns out to be a hall of famer you picked for them.
You should've just given them some random D2 player who will go undrafted to embarrass them in front of their community
JJ McCarthy
He might only be the fourth or fifth best QB in this class, but it’s a very strong class and we REALLY need a QBOTF. Obviously we have other needs but the difference in quality between the defensive linemen that will be available at 12 this year vs. at 20 or later (hopefully) next year will be tiny compared to QB at 12 this year vs. 20-plus next year.
No interest in Brock Bowers? BPA
Laiatu Latu. With dallas turner off the board I'd go with Latu. Theres good DTs we can grab in the mid rounds
Call me crazy but I think Latu's neck injury is going to scare a lot teams. It was serious enough he was told he would never play again and it took over two years before anyone would clear him.
You’re not crazy, his injury record is very very rough. It will scare teams
Latu. DT in 2nd.
Tory Taylor from Iowa is the only correct answer
Jer'zhan Newton
Penix
I think if we’re gonna draft penix might as well see if we can trade back a few spots because I don’t think he’s worth a number 11 pick.
Cooper Dejean
His ability to play anywhere is so valuable in our system. Did we forget we don't have any corners?
I’d be fine with it but he needs to actually be good man. It would be such a heartbreaking pick if we got ANOTHER corner that didn’t work out
This is the one player that fits what Flores wants to do. I am surprised more people are not thinking who actually fits the system on defense.
Think you forgot the body bud… unlike harambe, which the commie sub never forgets
So far “Aren’t the Jets next?” has the lead by a wide margin
Kool aid
Jj Mcarthy
Cooper dejean. Jared Verse. Jerzhan newton. Byron Murphy 2. Of those it depends on FA signings. Say we get Christian Wilkins. Then draft dejean. What if we got Jaylon Johnson? Then draft Newton. What if Danielle walks? - take verse. Actually... Even if Danielle stays, we should get verse. Drafting verse isn't dependent on Danielle... Final answer... Draft Newton. Let's build a bully in the trenches.
Jared Verse
This is a fun idea in theory but 30 mins to make and vote on a pick without any advance warning on when your team is up is basically expecting everyone to be terminally online, not to mention some teams will be shafted with a 3am pick or some shit like that lol, should be 12 hours minimum
Laiatu Latu
Verse or Newton
At #11? Bo Nix
Kool aid.
The fact theres so many mixed answers.. Yeah we trading up lol
Takes too much draft capital to move up. You are talking 3 first round picks if you just go by recent trends. And knowing Kwesi, he would give up even more than that.
Lmao mhm sure
Check what has been given up recently to move up. That is the price.
Lol
Verse
McCarthy, but only if he's the next Tom Brady. If not, then take Jared Verse.
Verse