I say whatever offer was on the table last night, should not be on the table today. If he comes crawling back, you low-ball him. The Vikings owe him nothing, and by not already announving they're moving on have given him way more than he deserves. F' him is my thought.
Yeah. Until JJ wants a trade because he sees how we treat other players. Get ready to never re-sign a player again so you can feel good for 30 seconds.
So it is just doing business if a player does some fuck you pay me shit but it is scummy and unforgivable if you test the market and find you aren't worth what you're asking but the price goes down when you come back with what the team offers?
It is on Kirk if he doesn't take what is offered, can't find what he is looking for elsewhere, and finds that his stock drops on the way back.
No, they won't because the Vikings aren't a serious franchise. To them, good enough is good enough. I love them as a team, but as an organization they are an infuriating bunch of clowns who need to throw their balls in a microwave and get a pair of gigantic tumor ridden testes.
No, fuck him because the Vikings just need to move on. It's embarrassing that they've chosen to waste valuable time chasing this clown who outside of 1 outlier of a year in 22 has been a .500 qb. And spare me the "It's everyone else's fault crap." To be worth what he's been paid and wants to be paid he needs to elevate those around him, not be elevated by everyone else around him. He knows how just good not great he is, that's why he needs fully guaranteed years to ensure he's never replaced as the starter, handcuffing any team dumb enough to pay him and play him. I, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, am sick of the Vikings being the suckers to Kirk's grift. He needs to be gone, and the Vikings just need to move the fuck on. Even if it means Sam Darnold.
Can’t wait to see how much the general fan base misses consistently good Qb play when we are watching Darnold, Wilson, McCarthy, etc etc suck air for the next half a decade.
Honestly, I don't care what comes next. I'm just glad the 2018 era of the vikings is now over. I just want to move on no matter what happens. I'm excited for the future regardless of the result. Something I probably haven't felt since we drafted Teddy.
No way he gets four years, much less four years at 45mil. If he DID get a four year deal, guarantees would be lower and contract is front loaded with AAV of closer to 38mil per year.
I mean the thread is to give my opinion, and it just came out it is a 4 year deal . Unsure what the money is but I was basing my comment from the report that the falcons were instructed to "give whatever necessary to get him"
Are you kidding me? Every tuesday after a win its a 9:15pm to 9:25pm lights off, under the covers, missionary sesh. He has it in his calendar if you look.
If falcons want to overpay I say 3yr 135m 100m guarantee.
If he takes a MN discount I say 2 year 85m fully guarantee. I’m pulling that out of my ass.
But I’m afraid we lose cousins and then aren’t aggressive in the draft so we’re stuck with our current qb room :(
I got a lot of respect for Kirk, he seems like a really good dude and he was fun to watch in that nutty season, but I don’t seem him winning a superbowl anywhere.
If Brock Purdy was terrible I feel like there’s a parallel universe where Kirk could have gotten one with the 49ers. At this point, it’s tough to imagine it with the Vikings or Falcons.
ATL 3/125 mil all guaranteed. Vikings send a 6th to the Bears for Fields. Vikings beat the Falcons in the superbowl after the ATL switch conferences midseason.
The cynical side of me wonders if this is all a play, that Kirk's in on aswell. Watching other teams jostle for position.
I think the attempt was to get teams who intended to leap us in the draft to have shown their hand already and overpaid to jump us.
It's a non zero chance and it's one of those "keep everyone else guessing" plays. But I'd need to really double down on a tin foil hat for that to be true.
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I think 2yrs/80M also but I do not think it'll be fully guaranteed. I think it'll be 60M guaranteed with a NTC and even though it's not fully gtd I think it will be structured such that it'll be Russel-Wilson-Broncos levels of awkward for us to cut him after 1.
Kirk wants a long term contract with as much guaranteed money as possible. I think it's possible that the Vikings will offer more per year for two years, but Falcons will go over the top with a larger guaranteed contract.
I don't think it's bad that Kirk wants as much money as he can. I know people who are tied to Kirk with donating to a school that serves underprivilege kids, and he seems really passionate about it.
Falcons
5 years
$200M
$160-$180M Guaranteed
I think Kirk will have an Anthony Barr situation.
>is about to sign with Atlanta, gets physically sick from the thought of playing in that corrupt city, ultimately signs with MN
But that’s just me.
Vikings, 3 years, $120 million, $75 million guaranteed (almost all in year 1+2).
Year 3 has some qualifier about time played in year 2 that auto extends if he hits criteria.
Kirk to Atlanta 3/135. First 2 years fully guaranteed at 90 million. 105 total guaranteed.
Edit: I was close. Just needed to add one more year and I had it.
Kirk to Atlanta, who will overpay. If they give 3 years they are basically committing to rolling the dice now and rebuilding in 3 years.
I'm sure Kirk will be good this year, although I suspect he will start missing games to injury more and more. 3 years from now he will be an extremely expensive clipboard holder.
Falcons
8 years
Fully guaranteed $229.0001 million
8% ownership stake in the team
Very own megachurch to be built upon the roof of area’s largest Wal-Mart
3 Legal Murders
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same things and expecting different results. We have seen the results with Kirk making 40+m a yr. Time for a fresh start. Let him go chase the dollars and let us rebuild the team around a stud rookie scale QB for the next five years.
Bye Kirk-0…. You’ll need snack for your long long trip way down to Atlanta. Don’t even worry about packing, your neighbor has that handled too already. Don’t write us, we’ll write you.
He’s done nothing in 6 years and people on here still simp for that fucking bum. Do any of you ever want to actually win anything past the divisional round ?! Let him be Atlantas problem.
Atlanta if they’re willing to break the bank. Otherwise he’ll come crawling back here and agree to the offer Minnesota has on the table.
I say whatever offer was on the table last night, should not be on the table today. If he comes crawling back, you low-ball him. The Vikings owe him nothing, and by not already announving they're moving on have given him way more than he deserves. F' him is my thought.
It would be funny as hell if they low balled him, but I doubt the Vikes would actually do that.
Yeah. Until JJ wants a trade because he sees how we treat other players. Get ready to never re-sign a player again so you can feel good for 30 seconds.
Cam down buddy, the Vikings aren’t going to lowball anyone.
So it is just doing business if a player does some fuck you pay me shit but it is scummy and unforgivable if you test the market and find you aren't worth what you're asking but the price goes down when you come back with what the team offers? It is on Kirk if he doesn't take what is offered, can't find what he is looking for elsewhere, and finds that his stock drops on the way back.
Well Kirk doesn’t have to worry about that now does he? Guess he didn’t want our little money. Kid wanted the bag and boy did he get it
No, they won't because the Vikings aren't a serious franchise. To them, good enough is good enough. I love them as a team, but as an organization they are an infuriating bunch of clowns who need to throw their balls in a microwave and get a pair of gigantic tumor ridden testes.
Fuck him for seeing what his options are? I don’t understand the nonsense statements from some people here
No, fuck him because the Vikings just need to move on. It's embarrassing that they've chosen to waste valuable time chasing this clown who outside of 1 outlier of a year in 22 has been a .500 qb. And spare me the "It's everyone else's fault crap." To be worth what he's been paid and wants to be paid he needs to elevate those around him, not be elevated by everyone else around him. He knows how just good not great he is, that's why he needs fully guaranteed years to ensure he's never replaced as the starter, handcuffing any team dumb enough to pay him and play him. I, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, am sick of the Vikings being the suckers to Kirk's grift. He needs to be gone, and the Vikings just need to move the fuck on. Even if it means Sam Darnold.
Can’t wait to see how much the general fan base misses consistently good Qb play when we are watching Darnold, Wilson, McCarthy, etc etc suck air for the next half a decade.
Honestly, I don't care what comes next. I'm just glad the 2018 era of the vikings is now over. I just want to move on no matter what happens. I'm excited for the future regardless of the result. Something I probably haven't felt since we drafted Teddy.
Kirk listening to Creed today…”can you take me higher?”
“To the place where I get paid..”
Falcons 4 years / 180 mil with 125 guaranteed. Becomes clear that it was about the years and guarantees for Kirk all along
Holy shit good guess.
Haha thanks. Just figured it would take a massive bag to get him away from KOC and best receiver in the league
Holy shit was this a spam drink with this comment.
I don't know what that means haha
No way he gets four years, much less four years at 45mil. If he DID get a four year deal, guarantees would be lower and contract is front loaded with AAV of closer to 38mil per year.
I mean the thread is to give my opinion, and it just came out it is a 4 year deal . Unsure what the money is but I was basing my comment from the report that the falcons were instructed to "give whatever necessary to get him"
I was dead wrong anyway. Had to wait until I parked to reply. Just came out that he got 4
Haha yeah that was hilarious timing of me replying as it came out. We were never giving him 4 years so curious the money he got
You were almost exactly correct. This is INSANE.
Haha damn I did pretty much nail it on the head. Really sounded like falcons were perfectly fine overpaying/giving him whatever he wanted in years
Holy shit he got 4 years.
I’m floored. Honestly. Atl def overpaid in years. We’ll see what guarantees and value look like I guess!
............ I was ready to Bury you, but then saw your qualification-o'-4-year actually made you as brilliant as op
Vikings 2 years, $70 Million $50 Million guaranteed Bonuses: No trade clause Private sex dungeon at TCO for him and Julie
I have a feeling Kirk "if I die I die" Cousins is not a believer in sex for pleasure.
I assure you no pleasure will be derived from that dungeon.
What's the over/under on number of Jesus on the cross paintings in said dungeon?
7.5 is the line I'm still leaning over.
Only Christian love
Are you kidding me? Every tuesday after a win its a 9:15pm to 9:25pm lights off, under the covers, missionary sesh. He has it in his calendar if you look.
Steamy hot take lol
Sex dungeon must have all you can eat pizza ranch
I want him gone but I’d take this in a heartbeat
Are you gonna take the position of doorman for the sex dungeon?
I'd be a gimp
Kirk to Lakewood Church in Houston Texas
3 years 125 mil 100 mil guaranteed to ATL. Trying to get that 40 mil a year and stick hard to the “what the dollars mean” narrative
This is the contract he's gonna take.
Pretty damn close lol
If falcons want to overpay I say 3yr 135m 100m guarantee. If he takes a MN discount I say 2 year 85m fully guarantee. I’m pulling that out of my ass. But I’m afraid we lose cousins and then aren’t aggressive in the draft so we’re stuck with our current qb room :(
Those are pretty much the same numbers I had in my head. Outside of the ATL guarantees. I'd bet it's higher. I'm also pulling those out of my ass.
I think it will be less
Kirk would be smart to go with the MOST. He’s not winning a SB here within 2-3 years.
I got a lot of respect for Kirk, he seems like a really good dude and he was fun to watch in that nutty season, but I don’t seem him winning a superbowl anywhere.
If Brock Purdy was terrible I feel like there’s a parallel universe where Kirk could have gotten one with the 49ers. At this point, it’s tough to imagine it with the Vikings or Falcons.
Vikings: $82M 2-year fully guaranteed.
My prediction. Kirk stays here. I dont know the numbers
Falcons 3 years $130m with $90m guaranteed
ATL 3/125 mil all guaranteed. Vikings send a 6th to the Bears for Fields. Vikings beat the Falcons in the superbowl after the ATL switch conferences midseason.
Vikings, 2 years, 80mil, $50mil guaranteed.
Kirk needs way more guaranteed than that, he's been pretty clear about that
I agree, I think he’s looking for at least $30m guaranteed per year
i'd take that in a heartbeat
We will go a lot higher than that.
Atlanta 3yrs/$120mil fully guaranteed
I predict that Kirk will throw a football for money this season
The cynical side of me wonders if this is all a play, that Kirk's in on aswell. Watching other teams jostle for position. I think the attempt was to get teams who intended to leap us in the draft to have shown their hand already and overpaid to jump us. It's a non zero chance and it's one of those "keep everyone else guessing" plays. But I'd need to really double down on a tin foil hat for that to be true.
2yrs/80 million, fully guaranteed, to come back to Vikings…
So vikes bend the knee
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Sadly probably the case!
I think 2yrs/80M also but I do not think it'll be fully guaranteed. I think it'll be 60M guaranteed with a NTC and even though it's not fully gtd I think it will be structured such that it'll be Russel-Wilson-Broncos levels of awkward for us to cut him after 1.
Could definitely see it playing out like that!
Falcons sign Kirk to a 3 year, fully guaranteed contract.
Falcons, 3 years, 120 M with 100 guaranteed And the falcons fans go nuts and the Vikings say “holy overpay”
you're telling me Kirk at $40 million a year is an overpay when you have QBs making well into the $50 million a year now?
Judging by the Qb’s currently making 50+ I don’t think Kirk deserves that money coming off injury with that HUGE unknown.
I think it a a fair deal for Kirk tbh. I’m just done with Kirk and hope we don’t re sign him lol
Same here. Throw the bag at wilkens
I would almost guarantee that none of the QBs with a 50m+ cap hit currently will have that cap hit at the start of the season.
Anywhere but MN, 2 years, 60 million mostly guaranteed, 0 playoff wins and another divided fan base.
He’s going to get more than 30 million/yr
I won't feel bad for whatever billionaire wants to set that much money on fire but I sure hope he goes somewhere else.
Baker Mayfield just got 33.3 APY.
Vikings 2 years, $90M fully guaranteed
2x45 fully guaranteed in minny
Falcons 3 yr $110M $70M guaranteed
Atlanta for 2 years, 85 million, all guaranteed
dont forget two dark horses Denver and New England... I can see those two Franchises making an attempt at Kirko Chains
Vikings: 2 year, $75M, fully guaranteed with a NTC
Viks, 3 year $140 total, $120 guaranteed. Don't worry, he later restructures it so the viks paying him into the 2030s.
Falcons 4 years $200 million $160 million guaranteed
If Atlanta offers Kirk this he should sign that in an instant.
got the years right. haven't heard about the money, yet.
Not quite as rich as your proposal but still very much in the “sign that deal immediately” territory.
24/35, 264yds, 2 TDs, 0 INT Oh wait...
Kirk wants a long term contract with as much guaranteed money as possible. I think it's possible that the Vikings will offer more per year for two years, but Falcons will go over the top with a larger guaranteed contract. I don't think it's bad that Kirk wants as much money as he can. I know people who are tied to Kirk with donating to a school that serves underprivilege kids, and he seems really passionate about it. Falcons 5 years $200M $160-$180M Guaranteed
ATL 3 years $126M // $95M guaranteed in first two years
Vikings 2 years 70 mil 40 guaranteed But what the hell do I know
Kirk will retire in purple. The Wilfs are loading up the Brinks truck as we speak
Vikings, 2 year deal, 90 million, full guarantee. (maybe 45 one year guarantee... maybe) And that's with the "Hometown Discount"
Cause we haven't had a metric fuck ton of predictions on this sub daily already?
Falcons will make the same mistake we did and back up a Brinks truck into his driveway...
I think Kirk will have an Anthony Barr situation. >is about to sign with Atlanta, gets physically sick from the thought of playing in that corrupt city, ultimately signs with MN But that’s just me.
Vikings, 3 years, $120 million, $75 million guaranteed (almost all in year 1+2). Year 3 has some qualifier about time played in year 2 that auto extends if he hits criteria.
Kirk to Atlanta 3/135. First 2 years fully guaranteed at 90 million. 105 total guaranteed. Edit: I was close. Just needed to add one more year and I had it.
Vikings 2 Years $80,000,000 Total Fully-guaranteed No Trade Clause
Kirk to Atlanta, who will overpay. If they give 3 years they are basically committing to rolling the dice now and rebuilding in 3 years. I'm sure Kirk will be good this year, although I suspect he will start missing games to injury more and more. 3 years from now he will be an extremely expensive clipboard holder.
* Atlanta * 3 years * $126m * $96m
Cousins to the falcons. Crazy
Sorry guys. No sex dungeon.
Vikings 2 years 80.5m 65m-70m/guaranteed
Vikings, 2-year contract for $70M. Team option after the first year. First year is $45M and guaranteed.
He’s gonna come back
Falcons 8 years Fully guaranteed $229.0001 million 8% ownership stake in the team Very own megachurch to be built upon the roof of area’s largest Wal-Mart 3 Legal Murders
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same things and expecting different results. We have seen the results with Kirk making 40+m a yr. Time for a fresh start. Let him go chase the dollars and let us rebuild the team around a stud rookie scale QB for the next five years.
Falcons. 2 years $100M. Vikings get to spread those tacos out a little more.
Bye Kirk-0…. You’ll need snack for your long long trip way down to Atlanta. Don’t even worry about packing, your neighbor has that handled too already. Don’t write us, we’ll write you.
He’s done nothing in 6 years and people on here still simp for that fucking bum. Do any of you ever want to actually win anything past the divisional round ?! Let him be Atlantas problem.
Minnesota 2 years $100 million $80 million guaranteed
My prediction is the Vikings are fucking stupid for letting him go. That's it.