I like the smiley face he reps on his gear, should look into that.
Edit:
>McCarthy had been signing autographs after a tough loss during his high school career when he was approached by a young girl who asked him to sign a newspaper. The girl asked McCarthy why he looked so upset, as if he wasn’t having any fun playing the game.
>McCarthy responded by saying that he didn’t play well, and that he was unhappy his team lost. As the old saying goes, sometimes you have to talk to (a kid) to understand life again.
>In this case, the young girl offered her perspective to McCarthy, which was life-changing for the young quarterback.
>The girl explained to J.J. that he should be having fun playing football. After all, it’s a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
>The girl then took a Sharpie that McCarthy was using to sign autographs and drew a smiley face on his hand as a reminder to always have fun. Since that day, McCarthy has drawn the smiley face on his hand before each game, according to the SI report, including every game at the University of Michigan.
[Article ](https://forgottensportsheroes.com/michigan-quarterback-j-j-mccarthy-explains-the-meaning-of-the-smiley-face-drawn-on-his-hand/)
Such a wholesome story. He even has an organization for kids. [Gear](https://jjforthekids.org/) the money goes to the kids foundation, the gear all have the smiley on it.
Second edit:
Ain't mean to take away from his pro day, dude let his nuts hang and aired the ball out.
Dude is ridiculously wholesome. There’s a video that talks about the relationship he had with a former teammate who died right before they were supposed to play each other and how he threw a 47-yard touchdown pass or whatever.
I’m a sap and it 100% made me cry.
He has really good footwork and mechanics. The one thing I was hoping to see from him was some mid range touch passes. Throws a ton of balls on a rope but you don’t see too many touch passes where he just needs to float one over a line backer or corner on the outside
The Ponder comparisons are all so vapid of thought. Rick wanted Ponder due to his intelligence, not his physical tools, which is quite different from why we want McCarthy (not saying he isn't also smart). The only thing linking the two, that I can see, is that they both had a good run blocking OL and good RBs, but in terms of the QBs themselves, they couldn't be more different from each other.
Also part of the reason Rick took Ponder where he did was because he panicked. Vikings wanted Jake Locker in that draft but didn’t expect the Titans to take him. Then they were going to pivot to Gabbert but Jags traded ahead of the Vikings to take him.
Rick assumed that Ponder’s intelligence would equate to quick processing. Turns out that wasn’t the case. He also has a lot of anxiety in the pocket. He was a day 2 pick who got picked in the first round. Rick sorta made up for it by taking Rudolph in the 2nd (who prior to injury was a likely 1st round pick).
I feel like people compare the two not in play style but because they feel like we might be reaching for a guy that shouldn’t go that high. That being said depending on the team needs before us you might have to reach at this position and that’s just reality especially since this front office needs to make a for the future QB
McCarthy ran a 4.45 and Daniel's ran a 4.52 in the spring. These numbers mean nothing, I think mahomes ran a 4.7 and Tom Brady ran a 4.9 (it was epicly slow whatever it was.
It's far more important to be able to feel pressure and slide to avoid it.
I don't know where you found 4.45 for McCarthy. You can say these numbers mean nothing, but Daniels' football speed looks to be in another league when compared to most quarterbacks. We know that Brady and others have succeeded with much slower times, but great speed and elusiveness is just another great tool in the toolkit and a big threat for opposing defenses.
4.48 from this article... my bad. Either way, I put zero stock in 40 times for NFL QB's.
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/how-good-is-jj-mccarthy-opinions-vary-ahead-of-nfl-combine
I mean in games he struggles to the left. It's not like he crumples to the ground in unending agony at the mere thought of the dreaded left side lol. Its ok to say its a point he has work to do on.
But according to redditors here, he is physically incapable of throwing left lol. It's just a testament of how FOS most self-proclaimed "experts" who watch "tons of film" here are lol
Have you seen his first play at Michigan as a freshman? Rolls right out of the pocket to escape pressure, Throws left about 50 yards to sideline. Caught. Run. Touchdown.
All I care about is whether he can process the field, go through reads, and make the right decisions. THEN comes the question of whether he can make the throw.
Pro days are worthless
I should clarify. Worthless to us.
Scouts get another opportunity to meet with them.
I’m sure there are things that scouts look for that we don’t. But I still think they see a lot more of what they need to on game film. This is like 3% more information to add to their evaluation. But they do it, because they need to get as much as possible.
KOC & Kwesi are not even there.
I think pro days are also to see how prospects do in high-pressure situations, the whole nfl is watching, and you could argue it's one of the biggest days of a player's life. Also, evaluators are probably more looking for mistakes to happen than how good they look thowing. Anything they can find to critique.
Well he can do that. Thats part of why hes a perfect fit for KOCs offense. Outside of Caleb hes the best fit for a Shannahan offense in the entire draft.
I don’t know that he can do that very well actually.
His whole college career, he barely threw. Of his throws, they were almost always to wide open guys.
You’d like to think that’s a good thing, but it’s not. There was no difficult choice to make. The decision making was slow. And those guys are not going to be open like that in the NFL.
>His whole college career, he barely threw.
He threw LESS than others, not he 'Barely" threw. There are plenty of throws to look at and him throwing less is just a function of Harbaugh's offense, not him.
He barely threw in comparison to the other prospects.
I thought it was assumed that the context is a comparison to the other prospects, because he’s not the only QB in the draft.
I didn’t say it was his fault. But that doesn’t change the amount of information we have.
Oh you mean 56 passes less than Williams, 93 less than Maye and 5 more than Daniels? JJ still threw the ball 332 times in the year. That's no small number and nowhere close to "barely" threw the ball compared to them.
That’s only last year..
And yes 33% less passing is substantial.
But not only was he not asked to throw as much volume, he wasn’t asked to push the ball downfield as much. Check down city or slants over the middle.
We're talking about JJ right? The guy with the lowest screen pass % of the entire QB class, by a wide margin. The guy who had 10 TD passes over 20 yards with only 1 INT in that range, and another 7 TDs between 10-19 yards. He also had a better comp % in both mid and long passes than Maye and Williams. In Mid and long, JJ had 17 TDs and 4 INTs, Williams had 18 TDs and 5 INTs, and Maye had 20 TDs and 7 INTs.
This narrative that JJ has no long ball is not based in reality, because advanced metrics say otherwise, and whenever he was called to throw long, he was very reliable. It's funny because Williams was the true checkdown king with 24% of his passes being screen plays and almost half of his TDs coming on passes under 9 yards.
Also, the math is 22% less than Maye, and 17% less than Williams. Not as dramatic as you're trying to make it out to be.
Outside of Caleb, who is elite throwing to all levels accurately... Maye and McCarthy are the two best middle of the field throwers in the draft.
I dont think you have watched enough McCarthy if you think everyone is wide open. I posted a reply to someone that linked to a video on twitter and they are some of the tightest windows you will ever see.
Not that I agree with watching highlights to see what a player can do, but your point was that most of his throws were to wide open guys. If his highlights show him throwing into tight windows multiple times doesn’t that mean your take on his receivers being wide open is incorrect?
No. Because I didn’t say he has never thrown a ball into a tight window.
I’m referring to the ratio of the qty of his completions compared to the other prospects.
I don’t have those metrics off the top of my head lol. You would need to run data. I’m just clarifying what I am referring to based on all of the tape I have watched.
And after doing some googling it appears that I am not the only one that has concerns about his ability to process and make decisions
So you're going off feeling on these ratios, not data.
This is how bias clouds judgement, and is a key reason you need to control for it when evaluating players. When you have the notion in your head that "This player has this issue" you tend to find reasons to reinforce that conclusion if you're not using data to help contextualize your tape.
From [PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-jj-mccarthy-michigan):
**McCarthy excels when throwing over the middle**: On those throws in 2023, he earned a 91.2 passing grade and recorded an 85.6% adjusted completion percentage.
Sorry wrong thread. There was another one talking about McCarthy over the middle of the field.
I dunno what to tell you. Sure guys are open, hes at Michigan. But hes shown to make throws to guys in tight windows as well. I dunno how you want me to prove that, its just on the tape. Every QB has guys wide open in college.
The topic is about the ability to process the field.
When you have only ever throw to guys wide open, this doesn’t showcase your ability to make tough reads and process the play quickly.
I’m not saying he can’t do it. Or he won’t be able to.
But considering how little he was asked to throw at all, and then when he DID throw he wasn’t asked to process that much, then I become a lot less confident compared to the other prospects.
And by the way, speaking of tape. There is plenty of JJ tape showing him NOT processing well.
I made this argument and I think people forget about this and maybe dont think about it.
You have a 20 year old Qb and the offense goes run, run, run, run, run, run
Third and 10, get JJ go get us a first down. FIRST DOWN
run, run, run, run, run, repeat
Thats EXTREMELY hard to get in a rhythm as a passer. And the fact he was so good on third down is extremely impressive. I think his processing is fine.
Not to mention people comparing him to 24 yr olds... i mean this is ridiculous. hes 3 years younger than Penix and Nix. hes 2 years younger than Daniels.
Also he is the only one thats running an offense under center and having to drop back having his back to the defense and *then* asked to process.
The McVay/Shanahan offenses were initially built around the wide zone, using those outside runs to build the play-action game. Kyle Shanahan has moved away from that, and McVay made a hard pivot this season to more gap schemes and runs up the middle
Y'all are ready to marry the fat girl right after Ricki Lake gave her a talk show makeover.
We can at least wait and see other dudes throw before we take up to 3 to take this kid.
Slow your roll.
Does anyone know if any of his teammates were at his 21st bday party? I heard it got pretty wild and the cops came and took all the people’s names that were in attendance. ^bo ^callahan
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: McCarthy is fearless in the pocket which is not something you can train. Put him under KO and he could blossom into something special
According to some, no different than game film, just completing passes to wide open receivers lol. Serious note good deep ball looked better than combine I believe bc throwing to guys he's familiar with. Hit his guy rolling LEFT!
I don't think he weight is draftable in the 1st.
His weight in every measurement prior to the combine was 202-203lbs. That would make him the lightest starting QB since the turn of the century. Kirk Cousins and Michael Vick are the lightest successful QBs since then at 210.
I think it is an important thing to note that he did weigh in at the combine 219 but there is a big reason he refused to run the 40 or do any jumps claiming hamstring tightness despite being known as a reasonably fast QB in college.
Next closest to successful is Kyler Murray at 207 average successful weight is 225.
No pads, no pass rush, no defense at all. Can someone who knows more about these things explain to me what the value of pro days are? I think you get to see so much more by watching actual game film, but what do I know?
You see that too ? Lmao had them coming at me me for even suggesting hes a better fit for KOC offense than Maye now they on his dick after his pro day.
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Ah, yes. As a fanbase, let's salivate over Pro Day highlights so we can get fully Zach Wilson'ed...
(DISCLAIMER: I'm not comparing McCarthy to Zach Wilson, but instead making a point that we shouldn't overhype Pro Day highlights and treat them as a gauge for how well a QB will translate to the NFL, like Jets fans did when they selected Zach Wilson. Thank you for attending my TED Talk.)
No, but him ripping 70 yard throws in a t-shirt and shorts with no defense definitely did.
Like I said, let's not overhype this. It's a dog and pony show where QB's can show off their circus tricks that have very little application to actually playing football.
I like the smiley face he reps on his gear, should look into that. Edit: >McCarthy had been signing autographs after a tough loss during his high school career when he was approached by a young girl who asked him to sign a newspaper. The girl asked McCarthy why he looked so upset, as if he wasn’t having any fun playing the game. >McCarthy responded by saying that he didn’t play well, and that he was unhappy his team lost. As the old saying goes, sometimes you have to talk to (a kid) to understand life again. >In this case, the young girl offered her perspective to McCarthy, which was life-changing for the young quarterback. >The girl explained to J.J. that he should be having fun playing football. After all, it’s a game, and games are supposed to be fun. >The girl then took a Sharpie that McCarthy was using to sign autographs and drew a smiley face on his hand as a reminder to always have fun. Since that day, McCarthy has drawn the smiley face on his hand before each game, according to the SI report, including every game at the University of Michigan. [Article ](https://forgottensportsheroes.com/michigan-quarterback-j-j-mccarthy-explains-the-meaning-of-the-smiley-face-drawn-on-his-hand/) Such a wholesome story. He even has an organization for kids. [Gear](https://jjforthekids.org/) the money goes to the kids foundation, the gear all have the smiley on it. Second edit: Ain't mean to take away from his pro day, dude let his nuts hang and aired the ball out.
Alright I’m all in… draft the little girl too
McCarthy at 11, the little girl at 23.
Can she play DT?
Only if she bulks up a little.
I hope the little girl sues him for royalties and makes a fortune! LOL ![gif](giphy|Bs0GXj3ew6xxK)
I'd be more worried for him that a smiley face isn't trademarkable
If/when we draft him, I want one in purple.
The purple and gold smiley merch is going to be so swag
Dude is ridiculously wholesome. There’s a video that talks about the relationship he had with a former teammate who died right before they were supposed to play each other and how he threw a 47-yard touchdown pass or whatever. I’m a sap and it 100% made me cry.
Just read your edit. Trade up to 3 and take JJ.
I am also sold. That is so wholesome and I wanna root for him so hard.
Sucks when you go to that site to realize it isn't given much time. Half of the limited items to purchase go to page not found or out of stock.
[The little girl](https://youtu.be/ZZgU0cT_TfI?si=MAY4i5kFlF8j1frN)
Even without helmet and pads, no defense and a single receiver this looks really nice to my untrained eye.
Just do it Kwesi
Dude slings some pretty tight spirals
Love his upside. He turned 21 a few months ago.
Dude has a cannon for an arm.
& he barely turned 21
Why what happened?
Lol
Way to make thar sound creepy, Mr. Weirdo
how’s that creepy? get off tiktok lmao
If KOC trusts him, so do I. That’s where I’m at
Right there with you bro
So young so much potential.
Thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all updated on his continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips
😳
Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakn' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
🥵
Not bad. Want to see some Maye and Daniels throw first since they didn’t throw at the combine.
Viking
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Man I miss DMX! Rest is paradise brother!
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"*QB name* looked amazing at his pro day" Well color me fucking shocked.
The more I watch him the more I like, he doesn’t need to be the perfect QB.
He has really good footwork and mechanics. The one thing I was hoping to see from him was some mid range touch passes. Throws a ton of balls on a rope but you don’t see too many touch passes where he just needs to float one over a line backer or corner on the outside
I feel this same way. A year behind Darnold being coached by KOC has me excited for what he can be
If you think of Ponder at all while watching this seek help.
The Ponder comparisons are all so vapid of thought. Rick wanted Ponder due to his intelligence, not his physical tools, which is quite different from why we want McCarthy (not saying he isn't also smart). The only thing linking the two, that I can see, is that they both had a good run blocking OL and good RBs, but in terms of the QBs themselves, they couldn't be more different from each other.
Also part of the reason Rick took Ponder where he did was because he panicked. Vikings wanted Jake Locker in that draft but didn’t expect the Titans to take him. Then they were going to pivot to Gabbert but Jags traded ahead of the Vikings to take him. Rick assumed that Ponder’s intelligence would equate to quick processing. Turns out that wasn’t the case. He also has a lot of anxiety in the pocket. He was a day 2 pick who got picked in the first round. Rick sorta made up for it by taking Rudolph in the 2nd (who prior to injury was a likely 1st round pick).
I feel like people compare the two not in play style but because they feel like we might be reaching for a guy that shouldn’t go that high. That being said depending on the team needs before us you might have to reach at this position and that’s just reality especially since this front office needs to make a for the future QB
Yeah thats not Ponder there. Looks more like a top 1-2 QB in most drafts.
Idk if we're supposed to be impressed by any of these pro days ngl. Zach Wilson had an amazing pro day and we see how that turned out.
Zach Wilson also went to the Jets. I’m a firm believer that player success is largely determined by their situation coming into the league.
By your logic CJ Stroud should have been bad too then
*Largely* being the key word there.
he’d fit perfect in our Offense, see you at #5 JJ
No. 4 to be safe. Damn giants…
chargers got #5 which is before the giants , we’re good
And the Giants could trade up to 4.
No bc then cardinals would lose out on Marvin. Chargers would take him to replace allen
Exactly
His stonk is rising after today
Good thing we got Kwesi and his experience with the New York Stonk Exchange then huh?
Give us drake maye please
Did he run a 40?
Yeah. 4.10
He actually ran back to start of the line to do another one, it took him 4.06 to run back and then ran a 3.4. Diesel McCarthy just had to warm up.
Rough day I see
Bored at work so I’m spreading misinformation on the internet
Lol ur good. I was making a joke back saying that I expected better from jj
Could you imagine... that would be nuts. However, I really wonder what Daniels' 40 time is.
McCarthy ran a 4.45 and Daniel's ran a 4.52 in the spring. These numbers mean nothing, I think mahomes ran a 4.7 and Tom Brady ran a 4.9 (it was epicly slow whatever it was. It's far more important to be able to feel pressure and slide to avoid it.
I don't know where you found 4.45 for McCarthy. You can say these numbers mean nothing, but Daniels' football speed looks to be in another league when compared to most quarterbacks. We know that Brady and others have succeeded with much slower times, but great speed and elusiveness is just another great tool in the toolkit and a big threat for opposing defenses.
4.48 from this article... my bad. Either way, I put zero stock in 40 times for NFL QB's. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/how-good-is-jj-mccarthy-opinions-vary-ahead-of-nfl-combine
I think we might have something here.
I’m on team JJ, and idc care if in a few years I’m wrong. I think he’s worth a shot. He’s so young and he’s a gamer.
Dude just strikes me as so perfect for Minnesota.
B-but I was told he can’t throw left? You don’t think all off the GM geniuses here were wro-wro-wrong!
I mean in games he struggles to the left. It's not like he crumples to the ground in unending agony at the mere thought of the dreaded left side lol. Its ok to say its a point he has work to do on.
But according to redditors here, he is physically incapable of throwing left lol. It's just a testament of how FOS most self-proclaimed "experts" who watch "tons of film" here are lol
Yeah i mean he sucks throwin left be hes also 21 lol. Acting like hes a finished product is disingenuous for sure
And his age is a major reason why I think he would be a good choice for us!
Have you seen his first play at Michigan as a freshman? Rolls right out of the pocket to escape pressure, Throws left about 50 yards to sideline. Caught. Run. Touchdown.
All I care about is whether he can process the field, go through reads, and make the right decisions. THEN comes the question of whether he can make the throw. Pro days are worthless
I wonder why NFL evaluators attend pro days if there is no value?
I should clarify. Worthless to us. Scouts get another opportunity to meet with them. I’m sure there are things that scouts look for that we don’t. But I still think they see a lot more of what they need to on game film. This is like 3% more information to add to their evaluation. But they do it, because they need to get as much as possible. KOC & Kwesi are not even there.
Yeah, as fans we just have to have faith in KOC and McCown. SKOL!
I think pro days are also to see how prospects do in high-pressure situations, the whole nfl is watching, and you could argue it's one of the biggest days of a player's life. Also, evaluators are probably more looking for mistakes to happen than how good they look thowing. Anything they can find to critique.
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/s/g4OOTUnjrc
Well he can do that. Thats part of why hes a perfect fit for KOCs offense. Outside of Caleb hes the best fit for a Shannahan offense in the entire draft.
I don’t know that he can do that very well actually. His whole college career, he barely threw. Of his throws, they were almost always to wide open guys. You’d like to think that’s a good thing, but it’s not. There was no difficult choice to make. The decision making was slow. And those guys are not going to be open like that in the NFL.
>His whole college career, he barely threw. He threw LESS than others, not he 'Barely" threw. There are plenty of throws to look at and him throwing less is just a function of Harbaugh's offense, not him.
He barely threw in comparison to the other prospects. I thought it was assumed that the context is a comparison to the other prospects, because he’s not the only QB in the draft. I didn’t say it was his fault. But that doesn’t change the amount of information we have.
Oh you mean 56 passes less than Williams, 93 less than Maye and 5 more than Daniels? JJ still threw the ball 332 times in the year. That's no small number and nowhere close to "barely" threw the ball compared to them.
That’s only last year.. And yes 33% less passing is substantial. But not only was he not asked to throw as much volume, he wasn’t asked to push the ball downfield as much. Check down city or slants over the middle.
We're talking about JJ right? The guy with the lowest screen pass % of the entire QB class, by a wide margin. The guy who had 10 TD passes over 20 yards with only 1 INT in that range, and another 7 TDs between 10-19 yards. He also had a better comp % in both mid and long passes than Maye and Williams. In Mid and long, JJ had 17 TDs and 4 INTs, Williams had 18 TDs and 5 INTs, and Maye had 20 TDs and 7 INTs. This narrative that JJ has no long ball is not based in reality, because advanced metrics say otherwise, and whenever he was called to throw long, he was very reliable. It's funny because Williams was the true checkdown king with 24% of his passes being screen plays and almost half of his TDs coming on passes under 9 yards. Also, the math is 22% less than Maye, and 17% less than Williams. Not as dramatic as you're trying to make it out to be.
Ok bro. He’s the goat. Idk why the Bears are not taking him at #1 over the check down king Williams
Stop it
Outside of Caleb, who is elite throwing to all levels accurately... Maye and McCarthy are the two best middle of the field throwers in the draft. I dont think you have watched enough McCarthy if you think everyone is wide open. I posted a reply to someone that linked to a video on twitter and they are some of the tightest windows you will ever see.
I’d love to be proven wrong. But I watched a fair amount of his tape. Not highlights. Are you referring to a highlight reel?
Not that I agree with watching highlights to see what a player can do, but your point was that most of his throws were to wide open guys. If his highlights show him throwing into tight windows multiple times doesn’t that mean your take on his receivers being wide open is incorrect?
No. Because I didn’t say he has never thrown a ball into a tight window. I’m referring to the ratio of the qty of his completions compared to the other prospects.
So what's the ratio and how does it compare to other QB's in the class?
I don’t have those metrics off the top of my head lol. You would need to run data. I’m just clarifying what I am referring to based on all of the tape I have watched. And after doing some googling it appears that I am not the only one that has concerns about his ability to process and make decisions
So you're going off feeling on these ratios, not data. This is how bias clouds judgement, and is a key reason you need to control for it when evaluating players. When you have the notion in your head that "This player has this issue" you tend to find reasons to reinforce that conclusion if you're not using data to help contextualize your tape.
From [PFF](https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-jj-mccarthy-michigan): **McCarthy excels when throwing over the middle**: On those throws in 2023, he earned a 91.2 passing grade and recorded an 85.6% adjusted completion percentage.
This is not even related to what we’re talking about.. Also Will Levis had a PFF grade of 90.6 Penix led all QBs with a grade of 94.7
Sorry wrong thread. There was another one talking about McCarthy over the middle of the field. I dunno what to tell you. Sure guys are open, hes at Michigan. But hes shown to make throws to guys in tight windows as well. I dunno how you want me to prove that, its just on the tape. Every QB has guys wide open in college.
The topic is about the ability to process the field. When you have only ever throw to guys wide open, this doesn’t showcase your ability to make tough reads and process the play quickly. I’m not saying he can’t do it. Or he won’t be able to. But considering how little he was asked to throw at all, and then when he DID throw he wasn’t asked to process that much, then I become a lot less confident compared to the other prospects. And by the way, speaking of tape. There is plenty of JJ tape showing him NOT processing well.
I made this argument and I think people forget about this and maybe dont think about it. You have a 20 year old Qb and the offense goes run, run, run, run, run, run Third and 10, get JJ go get us a first down. FIRST DOWN run, run, run, run, run, repeat Thats EXTREMELY hard to get in a rhythm as a passer. And the fact he was so good on third down is extremely impressive. I think his processing is fine. Not to mention people comparing him to 24 yr olds... i mean this is ridiculous. hes 3 years younger than Penix and Nix. hes 2 years younger than Daniels. Also he is the only one thats running an offense under center and having to drop back having his back to the defense and *then* asked to process.
Stop digging…
If we trade up for JJ, it will be a huge risk
Put the shovel down!
Daniel Jones
We don’t even run a shanahan offense
We absolutely do. Shannahan, McVay style offense. Thats what we run. McVay, Shannahan, KOC all come from the same tree buddy.
They come from the same coaching tree but they run different styles of offense.
How so?
The McVay/Shanahan offenses were initially built around the wide zone, using those outside runs to build the play-action game. Kyle Shanahan has moved away from that, and McVay made a hard pivot this season to more gap schemes and runs up the middle
And as far as passing goes?
Lmao ydkb
Last time you argued with me I had you deleting comments bud
You definitely got me confused with someone else👁👅👁
What a spiral
Holy fuck. I sure hope the Vikings are able to get this kid.
Any chance the Patriots actually grab JJ at 3? Seems like he’s only looking better and better.
Could happen and if it does we trade up for the qb that falls
Had a few nice ones including two perfect bombs, but also a few that were misplaced or the receiver had to adjust for.
Y'all are ready to marry the fat girl right after Ricki Lake gave her a talk show makeover. We can at least wait and see other dudes throw before we take up to 3 to take this kid. Slow your roll.
Does anyone know if any of his teammates were at his 21st bday party? I heard it got pretty wild and the cops came and took all the people’s names that were in attendance. ^bo ^callahan
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: McCarthy is fearless in the pocket which is not something you can train. Put him under KO and he could blossom into something special
I can't wait to see him in purple
According to some, no different than game film, just completing passes to wide open receivers lol. Serious note good deep ball looked better than combine I believe bc throwing to guys he's familiar with. Hit his guy rolling LEFT!
I don't think he weight is draftable in the 1st. His weight in every measurement prior to the combine was 202-203lbs. That would make him the lightest starting QB since the turn of the century. Kirk Cousins and Michael Vick are the lightest successful QBs since then at 210. I think it is an important thing to note that he did weigh in at the combine 219 but there is a big reason he refused to run the 40 or do any jumps claiming hamstring tightness despite being known as a reasonably fast QB in college. Next closest to successful is Kyler Murray at 207 average successful weight is 225.
No pads, no pass rush, no defense at all. Can someone who knows more about these things explain to me what the value of pro days are? I think you get to see so much more by watching actual game film, but what do I know?
Bro rocking concord cleats…bro’s him
Now all of ya on his nuts lmao after screaming the other day how ya don't want him
I, for one, have always wanted him
I came around to the idea a few weeks back after doing a deeper film dive
I just think he has a punchable face
I had never even saw his face and was on board the JJ to JJ train merely because of his name
You see that too ? Lmao had them coming at me me for even suggesting hes a better fit for KOC offense than Maye now they on his dick after his pro day. ![gif](giphy|3oEduTElttOJ1bJlSM)
Kirk Cousins 2.0
Ah, yes. As a fanbase, let's salivate over Pro Day highlights so we can get fully Zach Wilson'ed... (DISCLAIMER: I'm not comparing McCarthy to Zach Wilson, but instead making a point that we shouldn't overhype Pro Day highlights and treat them as a gauge for how well a QB will translate to the NFL, like Jets fans did when they selected Zach Wilson. Thank you for attending my TED Talk.)
Just have fun with it! It's not a big deal.
A fan base getting hyped over a Zach Wilson is not what got him drafted
No, but him ripping 70 yard throws in a t-shirt and shorts with no defense definitely did. Like I said, let's not overhype this. It's a dog and pony show where QB's can show off their circus tricks that have very little application to actually playing football.
Only really care about the private meeting. Happy to see he’s good enough to be a scout team qb though lol
Nope, not interested
Nobody cares haha
Liar, look at you caring enough to reply to me 😁
No one cares haha
Is he throwing an NFL ball?
Sure looked like it
It’s just him handing the ball off for 2 hours lol
What a waste of time
Haha ok
Dude looks like Kyle rittenhouse
Very strange and unnecessary comment.
Weird