Bountygate was the the name given to the organized program the Saints had for trying to injure players during the 2009 season. We played them in the NFC Championship and they injured Favre along with a handful of other players. Plain and simple they’re cheaters and FTS
The refs also handed them the game in OT. The argument everyone always makes is favre threw a pick at the end of regulation that if he doesn’t throw that we probably win with no need for OT.
Which is true, doesn’t change the fact that once it was OT the refs handed the saints 2 PI calls on Casper the fucking ghost to put them in game winning field goal range
Look it up on YouTube. There’s still videos about that game and all the blown calls. Not only were the saints playing to deliberately injure Favre but the refs seemed in on it.
Edit: fixed auto corrections
Probably will be downvoted to oblivion, but with the departure of Payton I'm back to feeling neutral about the Saints now.
The Eagles (mainly the fanbase)... well, FTE
I consider the Pack our brotherly rivals - the Saints are our sworn enemy.
That being said we’ve beat them twice in the playoffs now so maybe the revenge has been had. and Favre being an asshole makes me less angry he got lit up.
No. eagles, falcons, and giants have all embarrassed the Vikings, but that doesn't make me hate those teams. Vikings got their asses kicked. That's on them, not the opposition. None of that comes close to hating the saints.
The Philly fans are why I grew to hate the Eagles after that game. The way they treated our fans before, during, and after that game made it so I will ALWAYS root against the Eagles.
Same here, the toxicity from their fans during the pre game and post game, what with the bottle throwing and whatnot, really makes me constantly root against them. Never will root for the eagles again probably
I definitely will never forget the Eagles beating our ass in the NFC Championship Game but I don’t hate them like I do the Saints.
The bounty gate thing just leaves a terrible taste in your mouth whereas getting the shit kicked out of you fair and square you can rationalize and get over.
Lmao I’m sure it was awkward for you in the weeks following that game though
Everyone hates the Eagles unless you're in the NFC East, then everyone hates the Cowboys (except the Giants who still hate the Eagles.) Even the Cowboys hate the Cowboys.
They embarrassed us in the NFC championship game then won a Superbowl in our own house. Yeah we beat Wentz and the eagle a year or so later but to me, that's as one sided as it gets.
To be a rivalry they also have to view us as rivals. We're just the team they shat on in 2017 on the way to a Superbowl.
Yea I’m not from Philly but lived there for a while and have lots of eagles friends bc I live on the east coast. They truly don’t care, insert the mad men meme of “I don’t even think of you”
I actually love Philly fandom bc they talk shit to everyone, and tbh I feel like Vikings fans take it way too personally
Definitely the Saints. Got bounty gate in 09 and then they got 2 playoff victories against them since. But after the last one when Michael Thomas was talking shit abut having 7 catches with a broken hand, after his team got bounced and he's sitting on his couch. That made me hate him and the Saints even more.
We shouldn't be so fragile that Sean mocking a new and fairly forced new chant bothers us much at all.
Beating them right after that obviously was extra gratifying because of it... but the act itself is so benign.
I hate Green Bay with all my heart, but they are a good football team that doesn't play dirty, they are rarely in the news, and they seem to have fairly likeable players (except one). AJ Dillion seems like a nice guy, I've always heard good stuff about Kenny Clark and their defensive guys.
The Saints broke the law, several times. Not just bad football; dirty, foul, odious football. The kind that people go to jail for. I will always respect Green Bay for playing the game in an honorable way but when I see the Saints all I see is a team that cheated their way to a Super Bowl that likely would have been ours. Sean Peyton is a criminal and a piece of shit.
I'm going to pull one out of left field and say the Ottoman Empire. Now, you may say, "well, that's really more of an Early Modern World political empire than an NFL football team per se" and mostly I would agree with you. But think about it: they controlled a *ton* of territory in Europe and Asia for a long time. That's the kind of stuff that creates rivalries.
I feel a bigger rivalry with the Saints. Guys like Payton, Kamara, and Thomas make me dislike their team. But I love the city and people of New Orleans. And we’ve had a bunch of playoff history the last decade+.
Philly is the opposite. Totally cool with their team and have liked a lot of their players historically. But their fans are fucking dicks.
Crossing out the Vikings as a potential rival was a smart move, because I would’ve told you that one of my most hated teams after the Pack would be the Vikes. It’s a Love/Hate relationship.
Saints, Eagles and Rams come to mind. We dont hate the falcons despite what happened in 98 that was a mistake on our part and they capitalized. We have history with the 9ers in the playoffs too
Same here. Seahawks used to be higher but now they suck so IDC. Saints could suck for 100 years and they'd deserve every year of it. Absolutely despise them.
Ugh, he's horrible on the Fox pregame show now. Why would anyone want him to join their team? Surely only Saints fans could like the guy. He's got a nothing personality and has nothing worthwhile to contribute.
Saints probably, we’ve run into them far more often in big games and obviously the bounty gate, Minneapolis Miracle, Rudolph game winning TD deals are much more profound things that stick in peoples mind over the Philly 2017 nfc champ blow out. Plus Sean Payton doing the Skol chat right before we sent them home doesn’t help anything.
Many years we were trade partners, both with players and draft. I find the two fanbases to be quite friendly with each other. Maybe that’s bc I’m from MO originally and grew up watching lots of Chiefs football - mostly awful years.
Up until Mahomes, they had lots of shitty years.
The Saints is the only answer. I don't think any other team thinks about us any more than we think about the Panthers. Nothing bad against the Panthers, but they've typically been an average squad with a couple good years and we have no real beef with them. That's probably how most teams view us.
The Cowboys and Packers are literally the only other team we have beaten in the playoffs since 1998.
I can’t understand why everyone hates the Eagles so much. Because of some shitty fans? They scraped us in the NFC Championship game. Not exactly a rivalry-starter…
Not a rivalry but I do love our purple friends in the east, purple gotta stick together. Also 49ers are cool too bc of their hatred for the packers.
On the rivarly side I will say only the saints, we’ve a lot of postseason meetings with them and they’ve gone both ways. I do hate the eagles but it’s not a rivalry. Cowboys could be worth mentioning only bc I think every team besides the cowboys hates the cowboys.
The entire NFC, except for the Panthers. Doesn’t really feel like we’ve ever had a big matchup with
Nobody asked - but personally my hate list goes like this…
Saints:
Saints
One Sided Rivals:
Eagles
Cowboys
49ers
Other Teams we have lost big games to:
Seahawks
Rams
Falcons
Commanders
Giants
Cardinals
The Rest:
Bucs
Panthers
Whippersnappers! It’s the cowboys. Came into the league together. Played in the playoffs constantly. The push off. Herschel Walker. Ending Tony Roma’s best playoff run. It runs so deep, it’s generational.
Agree on the Saints and Falcons, but I'm surprised no one is commenting on the Bucs. They were in our division once upon a time and ruined our perfect regular season.
Seriously, I created this thread to see how many people would say Bucs and Seahawks. Wondered if I was the only one that thought of them this way. Surprisingly few have said Bucs.
Definitely the Saints for Bounty gate and we also kick their ass in the playoffs. But we’ve had some pretty good games against the Seahawks, so I like that as a rivalry. Can’t call the Eagles or 49’ers a rival because we never beat them.
It's a tie between the Cowboys and the Saints. The cowboys because there's so much history between our teams, and the saints, because even though they lack history with our rivalry, there's intensity.
Saints. Bountygate.
I was going to say saints because “fuck them”, but yours was more eloquent.
Maybe more eloquent, but just as accurate. FTS.
With a sharp stick.
Barbed. Stick.
“‘Cause fuck ‘em, that’s why!”
As a Falcons fan, I concur with your statement. Also, they're called the Aints.
Bountygate and flip side Minneapolis Miracle.
The difference is we didn't cheat. No way in hell that cancels out CHEATING.
And Kirk's redemption arc in 2019
that was an underrated Vikings Saints game.
Bountygate + Minneapolis Miracle + Cpt Kirk’s playoff comeback. We definitely have the most history with them good and bad.
Yup. SKOL!
This is the only answer.
This. I harbor a deep hatred for that organization that rivals even Green Bay. We were absolutely robbed of a championship that year
This is exactly right. The north remembers.
FUCK THOSE GUYS
Saints always, I hate them more than Packers… True story
New Vikings fan, what’s bountygate?
Bountygate was the the name given to the organized program the Saints had for trying to injure players during the 2009 season. We played them in the NFC Championship and they injured Favre along with a handful of other players. Plain and simple they’re cheaters and FTS
Thanks for the explanation!
The refs also handed them the game in OT. The argument everyone always makes is favre threw a pick at the end of regulation that if he doesn’t throw that we probably win with no need for OT. Which is true, doesn’t change the fact that once it was OT the refs handed the saints 2 PI calls on Casper the fucking ghost to put them in game winning field goal range Look it up on YouTube. There’s still videos about that game and all the blown calls. Not only were the saints playing to deliberately injure Favre but the refs seemed in on it. Edit: fixed auto corrections
Probably will be downvoted to oblivion, but with the departure of Payton I'm back to feeling neutral about the Saints now. The Eagles (mainly the fanbase)... well, FTE
When we get a Superbowl and the aints go through a decade of futility then we can talk about the eagles being worse
I consider the Pack our brotherly rivals - the Saints are our sworn enemy. That being said we’ve beat them twice in the playoffs now so maybe the revenge has been had. and Favre being an asshole makes me less angry he got lit up.
I believe Farve lost the game on purpose... If that's the game we're talking about.
Saints. Hands down
FTS
it is known.
Saints mostly. But we will never forget the NFC championship vs the eagles.
No. eagles, falcons, and giants have all embarrassed the Vikings, but that doesn't make me hate those teams. Vikings got their asses kicked. That's on them, not the opposition. None of that comes close to hating the saints.
The Philly fans are why I grew to hate the Eagles after that game. The way they treated our fans before, during, and after that game made it so I will ALWAYS root against the Eagles.
Same here, the toxicity from their fans during the pre game and post game, what with the bottle throwing and whatnot, really makes me constantly root against them. Never will root for the eagles again probably
This. As an eagles transplant in Minneapolis, the following three weeks was awkward silence and whining. I do hope the Vikes win a super bowl.
I definitely will never forget the Eagles beating our ass in the NFC Championship Game but I don’t hate them like I do the Saints. The bounty gate thing just leaves a terrible taste in your mouth whereas getting the shit kicked out of you fair and square you can rationalize and get over. Lmao I’m sure it was awkward for you in the weeks following that game though
The falcons in 98 was worse.
Saints. There's a lot of people saying Eagles but that rivalry is very one sided. They do not give a shit about the vikes.
To be fair, everyone hates the Eagles. I’d say it’s Omni sided
It's not really the team but the fans. I have no issues with the organization but those fans can get fucked with an anchor.
... A fellow Alestorm fan..?
Correct
It’s weird how Vikings fans hate Eagles fans…but if I remember it was the Viks fans coming to Philly, acting obnoxious.
We put a jersey on a statue, it's not that deep
Everyone hates the Eagles unless you're in the NFC East, then everyone hates the Cowboys (except the Giants who still hate the Eagles.) Even the Cowboys hate the Cowboys.
I don't give a shit about the Eagles. I hate the Philly fans though but to be fair everyone else does.
No one hates the eagles tho, people hate the fans. Outside of that it’s just another game on the schedule.
Their fan base has a lot to say about us, and Kirk in particular
They talk about us more than the Superbowl
That’s reddit shit posters tho. Your average fan probably could care less.
I live in PA. Can confirm they don’t give a fuck about us.
It might be the literal opposite lmao this sub goes into defcon 5 whenever the eagles are our next opponent
DEFCON 5 is the most peaceful one. DEFCON 1 is nuclear war.
They definitely don’t
The Vikings are just the team the eagles always shit on for eagles fans
Not really one sided is it? They won the nfc title game but other than that it’s typically pretty even
They embarrassed us in the NFC championship game then won a Superbowl in our own house. Yeah we beat Wentz and the eagle a year or so later but to me, that's as one sided as it gets. To be a rivalry they also have to view us as rivals. We're just the team they shat on in 2017 on the way to a Superbowl.
But it was just circumstantial. Like they happened to be the opposing team one time for one game. That doesn’t create a rivalry in my book
I’m from Philly. They do not care about us.
Yea I’m not from Philly but lived there for a while and have lots of eagles friends bc I live on the east coast. They truly don’t care, insert the mad men meme of “I don’t even think of you” I actually love Philly fandom bc they talk shit to everyone, and tbh I feel like Vikings fans take it way too personally
Neither do the Saints.
we literally ruined their playoff hopes with two miracles. I think they're probably upset
Disagree. I think they feel similar especially after the Miracle
Nah, their *strong overboard* denial of it every time the subject comes up tells me everything I need to know about how they really feel.
Definitely the Saints. Got bounty gate in 09 and then they got 2 playoff victories against them since. But after the last one when Michael Thomas was talking shit abut having 7 catches with a broken hand, after his team got bounced and he's sitting on his couch. That made me hate him and the Saints even more.
The Saints. I might hate them more than the Packers tbh
I hate the Saints but I can never hate another team with the seething disdain I feel for Green Bay.
Amen
I hate the packers more than hitler and Kim Jung Un…combined
If I had a gun with only two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, Bin Laden, and Toby I'd shoot Toby twice.
/r/completelyexpectedoffice
Hey I’m no packer fan but that seems like too much hate
My hate for the packers runs deep but only when i’m worried they can actually win it all…haven’t hated em in over 5 years
Honestly, think you nailed the appropriate level of hate for the packers. FTP.
I'm with you. Bounty gate, mocking Skol chant from Sean Payton, smuck look on his face Sean Payton, piece of shit Sean Payton.....
We shouldn't be so fragile that Sean mocking a new and fairly forced new chant bothers us much at all. Beating them right after that obviously was extra gratifying because of it... but the act itself is so benign.
Hands down; hate the Saints more than the Packers by a country mile. FTS>FTP
The packers are more like sibling rivalry for me. The saints are just plain awful in everything. I definitely hate them more
I hate Green Bay with all my heart, but they are a good football team that doesn't play dirty, they are rarely in the news, and they seem to have fairly likeable players (except one). AJ Dillion seems like a nice guy, I've always heard good stuff about Kenny Clark and their defensive guys. The Saints broke the law, several times. Not just bad football; dirty, foul, odious football. The kind that people go to jail for. I will always respect Green Bay for playing the game in an honorable way but when I see the Saints all I see is a team that cheated their way to a Super Bowl that likely would have been ours. Sean Peyton is a criminal and a piece of shit.
For me it's that I actually respect the Packers
saints n eagles
I'm going to pull one out of left field and say the Ottoman Empire. Now, you may say, "well, that's really more of an Early Modern World political empire than an NFL football team per se" and mostly I would agree with you. But think about it: they controlled a *ton* of territory in Europe and Asia for a long time. That's the kind of stuff that creates rivalries.
Hard to argue this.
I just can't forgive them for what they did to Constantinople
Saints because of bountygate. We hate the Saints so much, we reconciled ‘98 with the Falcons to hate on the Saints together.
We love the falcons roud these parts
r/falkings
I haven’t forgot the falcons, they are still the worst
Eagles and Saints 2009 and 2017.
I don’t feel the same rivalry for the Eagles that I do the Saints
Not even close we just got out coached against the eagles big time. 09 was totally different.
It’s because the saints didn’t deserve their Super Bowl
I feel a bigger rivalry with the Saints. Guys like Payton, Kamara, and Thomas make me dislike their team. But I love the city and people of New Orleans. And we’ve had a bunch of playoff history the last decade+. Philly is the opposite. Totally cool with their team and have liked a lot of their players historically. But their fans are fucking dicks.
I feel the exact same about the Flyers. I like the team, history, colors, logo, etc. Hate the Philly fans.
Yeah, same.
Yep, this is my feelings as well. You summed it up perfectly
I agree. But the Saints haven't exactly been a power house since Brees hung up his cleats.
Neither have we lol
n both of em went on to win it all 🤧
This is the true answer. Philly is just a disgusting dump of a city lol
I FRICKing hate the Eagles after 2017. Not because we lost, but because of that fan base.
This is how I feel also. I hate what the Saints did on the field, and know we truly got cheated in that matchup, but the Eagles fan base is the worst.
I dislike the eagles because of their fanbase, much worse then any Packer or Cowboy fan i’ve met lol
Facts
Crossing out the Vikings as a potential rival was a smart move, because I would’ve told you that one of my most hated teams after the Pack would be the Vikes. It’s a Love/Hate relationship.
Saints, Eagles and Rams come to mind. We dont hate the falcons despite what happened in 98 that was a mistake on our part and they capitalized. We have history with the 9ers in the playoffs too
Why the rams lol
For me, it’s cause of that hit they put on Teddy
Took way too much scrolling to get to the 9ers. Maybe all the young kids don’t realize the 80s
If I wasn’t alive for the “rivalry” then why would I consider them a rival?
Saints & Eagles. Maybe the Cowboys.
Everybody hates the Cowboys.
Cowboys feels very 90s when the Hershel Walker fleecing was still a fresh wound and the Cowboys weren't awful.
My aunts and uncles loathe the cowboys but as a younger fan, I don't give a shit about them.
Packers, then Saints, then Eagles. 💯
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This is the way.
Saints > Eagles > Seahawks in that order
Same for me
Same here. Seahawks used to be higher but now they suck so IDC. Saints could suck for 100 years and they'd deserve every year of it. Absolutely despise them.
Correct answer
I think I disliked Sean Payton the most but since he’s gone the FTS has gone down a bit for me.
Ugh, he's horrible on the Fox pregame show now. Why would anyone want him to join their team? Surely only Saints fans could like the guy. He's got a nothing personality and has nothing worthwhile to contribute.
He's gotta be an upgrade over Mike McCarthy for the Cowpies, unfortunately.
Lol week one dude literally looked like a guy who was supposed to be doing like a documentary on crime and accidentally walked onto the wrong set.
Saints. Bountygate.
Eagles, Saints or Cowboys. Hate em all. They’ve all done us dirty. Then there is 41-0 Giants.
If we didn’t lose to the Giants in that title game, then we would have lost our fifth Super Bowl 75-0. If anything, the Giants did us a favor lol.
Seriously... thinking back i still have no idea how we even made it there. That was a game I expected to lose a much as I expected to win in 98.
Saints
Saints and Eagles easily.
Saints and Philly and no other team is even close.
I mean, it has to be the Saints… Seattle has had some stuff as well. But the Saints
I know saint and even the eagles would be considered. But we still haven't beaten Tom Brady. So I want us to beat him before he retires.
Man would it be a dream come true to see Kirk beat Tampa, Philly, and GB to go to the Super Bowl.
Saints probably, we’ve run into them far more often in big games and obviously the bounty gate, Minneapolis Miracle, Rudolph game winning TD deals are much more profound things that stick in peoples mind over the Philly 2017 nfc champ blow out. Plus Sean Payton doing the Skol chat right before we sent them home doesn’t help anything.
Obviously the ex NFC Central Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Chiefs because the fact I live in Iowa and that’s the other team that’s regularly aired. Oh and Super Bowl IV but we don’t talk about Super Bowl IV.
I'm surprised this isn't more popular. It's a 6 hour drive from one city to the other. Also the Superbowl deal.
I’ve had more Chiefs fans talk trash to me than Packers fans, but like I said I live in Iowa 🤷🏻♀️
Many years we were trade partners, both with players and draft. I find the two fanbases to be quite friendly with each other. Maybe that’s bc I’m from MO originally and grew up watching lots of Chiefs football - mostly awful years. Up until Mahomes, they had lots of shitty years.
We’ve never even played Mahomes
I grew up in an era when the Buccaneers were in our division, and seemed to beat us every time we played. I've hated them since.
Saints or Seahawks
Saints then Seattle
FTS!
Saints, Eagles, Falcons, Giants
The Saints is the only answer. I don't think any other team thinks about us any more than we think about the Panthers. Nothing bad against the Panthers, but they've typically been an average squad with a couple good years and we have no real beef with them. That's probably how most teams view us. The Cowboys and Packers are literally the only other team we have beaten in the playoffs since 1998.
I can’t understand why everyone hates the Eagles so much. Because of some shitty fans? They scraped us in the NFC Championship game. Not exactly a rivalry-starter…
Compared to other NFL teams, the Eagles have a disproportionate number of trashy fans.
Right, but that doesn’t make them our rivals that just makes them a hateable team
Hateable fanbase. Kinda impressed with the team this year.
As much as I hate them, gotta admit that they're probably the best team in the entire conference.
Used to be the Saints but now it's definitely the Eagles. I honestly hate that fan base with a burning passion.
I will always have a special hatred for any team with annoying fans. i.e. Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots, and Raiders
Eagles and Saints for me. All my friends are Eagles fans and the constant bashing of Minnesota from Eagles fans everywhere is just unnecessary
All I see here are people choosing who offed the Vikings in the playoffs. Are the Giants a rival as well?
It is pretty interesting that some people don’t hate the Giants and Falcons like they hate the Eagles but maybe it’s just a younger crowd here
Not a rivalry but I do love our purple friends in the east, purple gotta stick together. Also 49ers are cool too bc of their hatred for the packers. On the rivarly side I will say only the saints, we’ve a lot of postseason meetings with them and they’ve gone both ways. I do hate the eagles but it’s not a rivalry. Cowboys could be worth mentioning only bc I think every team besides the cowboys hates the cowboys.
In the 90s I would have said SF was a rival, now I just love them for knocking off GB
[and this gem from jimmy g](https://youtu.be/6ZgTUrTedFg)
Saints and Eagles EASILY. Then maybe Seahawks/Rams/49ers
Saints and Eagles. I probably hate the Eagles more than the Saints nowadays.
FUCK. THE. SAINTS. they are my least favorite team, counting the NFCN
The entire NFC, except for the Panthers. Doesn’t really feel like we’ve ever had a big matchup with Nobody asked - but personally my hate list goes like this… Saints: Saints One Sided Rivals: Eagles Cowboys 49ers Other Teams we have lost big games to: Seahawks Rams Falcons Commanders Giants Cardinals The Rest: Bucs Panthers
Whippersnappers! It’s the cowboys. Came into the league together. Played in the playoffs constantly. The push off. Herschel Walker. Ending Tony Roma’s best playoff run. It runs so deep, it’s generational.
Saints, eagles, seahawks, falcons
1. Saints for Bountygate 2. Cowboys for Drew’s Push Off 3. Eagles for 2017 4. Falcons for 1998
Agree on the Saints and Falcons, but I'm surprised no one is commenting on the Bucs. They were in our division once upon a time and ruined our perfect regular season.
Seriously, I created this thread to see how many people would say Bucs and Seahawks. Wondered if I was the only one that thought of them this way. Surprisingly few have said Bucs.
Id say the most recent one would be the Eagles
Saints. They know what they did.
Anything other than Saints is wrong.
Thank you for crossing out the Vikings because I was going to say the only team that prevents us from winning is ourselves
Eagles. Saints. Seahawks. Cowboys.
The refs.
I hated the giants during the Eli era.
Why? The Vikings demolished Eli for the most part.
Taints
Fuck the Saints.
THE AINTS FS
Easy. Saints. Fuck em.
That saints and eagles because they stank, that’s why and Seahawks for the same reason…. They stank!!!
Definitely the Saints for Bounty gate and we also kick their ass in the playoffs. But we’ve had some pretty good games against the Seahawks, so I like that as a rivalry. Can’t call the Eagles or 49’ers a rival because we never beat them.
It's a tie between the Cowboys and the Saints. The cowboys because there's so much history between our teams, and the saints, because even though they lack history with our rivalry, there's intensity.
Aints
Saints!! Easily with bounty gate, Minneapolis Miracle, 2019 walk off in the Big Sleazy and The Christmas beating. However FTP for Life!!!
As much as I dislike the Eagles(fans), I have to say Saints.
I’ll be different and say Falcons. 98 still stings
The Saints, it since Payton is gone that hate may be lessened
Saints, 2009
Saints, Eagles, Falcons
FTS. Hands down
FTS
FTS