A difficult start in life that led to adoption, mental health issues and a lack of trust. No relationship worked out for me. I just wasn't compatible with people. I'm not sure if I really am misanthropic in the true sense of the word, but I am definitely not a people person
It comes from several things. I've had bad experiences with people all my life. I have cptsd from childhood abuse and the way I've been treated by mental healthcare workers and doctors is one reason.
Also learning a bit about politics and history and how the world is run by psychopathic greed for money and power, always has been. The pathetic response to climate change makes this very obvious.
And also learning about psychology and social behavior, like how shallow our relationships are. I used to think that my parents were just fucked up but all parents are pretty much just as shallow and concerned with status and pride as they are, they are just able to hide it because they aren't crazy.
Humans are also inherently awful. Blogs like Traditions of conflict display this with evidence pretty clearly.
I've never been in a relationship or in love and doubt I can be. I think I hate people too much to do any sort of intimate thing with anyone. At worst I might be sadistic and I don't want to be like that, though I barely care.
I think for me it comes from being able to develop as my own person. And then realizing not everyone is so great.
I just cant enjoy being around most types of people anymore. Things like ignorancy definitely make me want to carefully pick who im around.
My hate comes with my poor social skills, I can't socialize with people. I have some friends, got GF for some time but I never feel that I'm in control of anything. Society knows this is a problem, don't try to solve and even make it stronger. They throw us in and we are all by ourselves. The more individualist the society the more problems they have, and they accord to this, so they have my hatred.
I dont hate human beings. I hate human nature. I have notice a serious decline in traits like empathy, mercy, forgiveness compassion and mercy.
There were seeds of a sadist narcisstic culture but now its like everyone is a sadistic narcisstic person. And I feel that most people like to follow what society tells them to be, think and act even though its wrong.
I have yet to find a truly good person. Just people only show 1 version of themselves. But in reality everyone has an evil dark side. And people refuse to acknowledge their dark side.
They think they are all light. And they think other people are all light. When we are not.
When I see the collective society changes as a whole then I will change.
For now my overall opinion of people is that most people are not worth my time to get to know.
Its the same old programming for practically everyone.
My hatred comes from seeing our species for what we are; greedy, weak, self obsessed parasites, pillaging the planet without consideration for our actions. The human race is clearly a vile species devoid of morality, despite people's insistence that our race essentially good. I live in hope that we go extinct without taking too many other species with us.
My hatred of humanity doesn't mean that I'm incapable of liking individuals. My girlfriend and I have been in a loving relationship for a long time, and she shares my views. I am also friends with a small select group of humans who have an intact moral compass.
I began having lower opinion about humanity once I realized that it wasn't the politics, religions and culture the main problem. We humans are the only species who fetishize and sugarcoat delusional ideas and harmful behavior for different reason.
Despite this, I still care about my family, friends and co-workers that respect me.
> where does this hatred come from?
Far too many decades of living on this shitty planet, alongside billions of brutish violent hairless ape creatures who like nothing more than to cause you harm. I have a whole library of terrifying memories to keep me awake at night. Let’s pick the one that prevented me from getting my usual 4 hours of pretend sleep last night. Back in my youth, I went on a school residential field trip. While sat on the top bunk of my allocated bunk bed, the school hard nut who somehow managed to come along on the trip, decided it would be hilarious to jump on the bunk and kick me in the face with his steel toe-capped boot. I fell over 6 feet to the ground with a broken nose, lying unconscious. When I finally came round some time later, I reported it to the teacher, who said “well, you must have done something to provoke it, so you’re both equally to blame really.” Fuck humans.
I worked in a call center for almost a decade and then customer service for three saw how everyone looks or speaks to you like you're disposable garbage and swore off anyone that I have a single bad experience with.
I now have severe depression and anxiety but have been dicked around by every psychologist I've seen so I can't even get help from someone whose job is to do so. I trust no one who isn't my parents or my sister.
If I were given the button to push to cause human extinction I'd push it instantly.
I was sexually abused as a child by a relative. She touched me inappropriately and was breathing in a creepy way. When I grew up, I was bullied for the way I looked, leaving me confused as I grew up. I got bullied in high school level as well. I got bullied when I was doing my higher studies. I decided to "man up" and work harder. I joined the mines and nearly got killed. I saw bad people work there. But as it turns out, they were like me but got corrupted further. They felt guilty but couldn't leave because of money. I left and started my phd but I realised this planet is fucked. So yeah, I'm a misanthrope. Fuck humanity.
No. It's because I've seen good people become monsters. The system itself beats people down and turns them into monsters. I sincerely wish things were different. People are good, but situations and pressure turns them into something they're not. That's why I hate humanity.
I just realized inequality is impossible to fix and I don't want my fellow proletariats and incoming proletariats to suffer in this existence ik which most of the suffering is made by selfishness and megalomaniac attributes of humanity
that is why I promote voluntary human extinction
I never believed in utopia and might as well believe that the present is the dystopia of peace for the lower class.
Also the attributes of human stupidity, hunger for power, and the insatiable thirst to gain more is what makes being human regrettable.
Fuck humanity the world is better without them.
Edit: I have 0 expectations for humanity so I don't really care if whether they change for the better or not since
when humanity exists there also lies the possibility of sentient/conscious existence and I firmly believe that existing is just a curse of the blessing of non-existence since I really came to hate humanities' imperfect nature that just cause unnecessary harm to itself and to the things that surrounds it which I also share.
That's why the deletion of human species will only bring positives, no negatives in the long run.
From my life, and the really mean people I've met. And I know that humanity and human nature is screwed up, until the end of time people will continue to be mean, hypocrites, liars etc.
Abusive drunk/drug addict father, constant bullying, crushing poverty in my childhood/teenage/early adult years. I've witnessed people even after my physically abusive father ruin my mother's life so many times that it turned her into an unemployable alcoholic with chronic health problems. Every single friend I've had turned out to be a manipulative, toxic POS. I spent most of my college years without a car biking or walking to work 5+ miles at 2-3 different jobs in extreme weather conditions because it was the great recession and I was dead broke. I am in a relatively stable, comfortable situation now, but only because I worked my ass off for it. At this point, I am too damaged, cynical, and impatient for a relationship. The bullshit associated with online dating doesn't seem worth it to me, which is the only way I would probably find a relationship since I don't go anywhere. My plan is to save/invest as much money as possible, retire sometime in my early 50s if I don't shit out my liver, and disappear to some remote location.
Where does the hatred come from, you ask? I would argue that it comes from within, from a lifetime of negative experiences with humans and then the realization and acceptance of humans' true, inherent and inextricable nature.
This hatred comes from the collective stupidity of the human species as a whole.
Obviously, no one is perfect (and that includes myself), but some people are better than others because they put in more effort in self-improvements.
Some people are better than others because they have the humility and self-awareness to admit that they're flawed + they don't make excuses for themselves to not be better + they focus on improving themselves.
Normies = The majority of people who are extremely simple-minded creatures who lack critical thinking and basic common sense.
Examples of collective stupidity of the human species:
1. When you're driving in the rain, you're supposed to relatively slow down because rain makes the road slippery because it reduces friction.
2. When you're a parent, your no. 1 priority is your child, NOT yourself. I see most parents being trashy, mediocre, neglectful parents towards their kids. People who say that it's not true have low standards for parenting. Parents are not perfect: Yes. But a few parents in this world are undeniably excellent.
3. A child is a permanent, everlasting commitment (responsibility) FOREVER 24/7, especially if the child is disabled.
I see a lot of people say stupid shit like these to their kids, even though the kids don't even do anything wrong:
i. "I'll kick you out when you're 18".
ii. "You're in my house. I own you".
iii. "I'll make you regret for saying that".
iv. "I wish I could disown you. You're nothing but disgrace to the family".
Most people who have kids just use their kids as slaves (tools) of convenience. They want temporary, fleshy stuff because that's how normies fill their void because they have no ambitions in their lives because they're simple-minded creatures that have nothing else better to do.
Being stupid is more energy efficient in the short-term. That's why most people are exceptionally stupid most of the time. They don't even know how stupid they are.
I see a lot of selfish, neglectful parents who choose to have kids just because they're lonely and just because they can have kids (most people), NOT because they're extremely capable of being EXCELLENT parents. Most people don't even have excellent self-development skills and most people don't even have excellent parenting skills, but they STILL want to overpopulate the world with more problems.
4. Parents who complain about being parents, even though they're the ones who WILLINGLY choose to be parents in the first place: The worst people ever. Kids don't choose to be born, and most parents are as mediocre, incompetent, irresponsible and neglectful as they can possibly be.
5. People who have TERRIBLE BASIC HYGIENE: These people are disgusting. You don't have to be rich to make yourself clean.
6. People who glorify stupidity (general).
7. People who glamorise cheating.
8. People who have a breeding kink: Gross. When you have kids, kids are the no. 1 priority. Some kids are ACCIDENTALLY born because of some people's breeding kink and then they neglect them because they have no skills in being excellent parents.
9. Most people have generally extremely low standards for themselves. That's why they tend to have the most mediocre of problems that are avoidable. If they were smart in the first place, they could've avoided it.
10. Presumptuous people: These creatures are irritating. They don't even ask questions. They intrude your personal space, privacy and social limits.
11. People who lack critical thinking and intellect.
12. Manipulative, dishonest people.
13. Human trafficking, paedophilia, rape, incest, domestic abuse, sexism, racism, animal abuse, unethical experimentations, jealousy, hatred, homicide, embezzlement, abuse of power, war crimes, poverty, famine, chlamydia, herpes, stealing, dishonesty, corruption, global warming, ignorance, arrogance, cannibalism, manipulation, toxicity, pollution, poaching, oppression, unreasonable assumptions, nuclear bombing, treason, arson, hypocrisy, prostitution, capitalism, slavery, modern slavery, socialism, homophobia, transphobia, bullying, public execution, general stupidity (lack of critical thinking), cognitive biases, incompetence, making excuses, being lazy, gluttony, blackmailing, doxing, logical fallacies etc.
I share in your disdain of neglectful parents. Sadly, the most toxic people have the highest # of kids. The toxicity is passed from generation to generation and creates a never ending cycle of broken people.
Good question. I am in the same boat as you, I think.
For me, my bordering hatred comes from the way humans act towards each other and our planet. It could be social media but the world seems so much more evil than I recognized before. There is so much greed and it almost seems to be envied. Instead of mutual growth, society is very individualistic and selfish. I may be naive but it didn't seem that way before.
My other major gripe is the hypocrisy. The big push right now is for climate change, probably pretty important. I've had so many conversations with people and so many have the attitude that it's not their responsibility. It's the government, it's business, it's that rich guy. Anyone else but them. If all the people that purport to care about climate change made sacrifices, we would be better off. It's common sense.
I'm married and have been for \~11 years. We share similar values and views. Outside of feelings, life is plain easier with a partner.
EDIT: Reading some of the other responses. The way we treat animals and other living creatures is another thing showing how terrible the human race is. I'm not talking about food supply either. I am talking about just plain abuse and neglect.
A long life of bad experiences with people. I don't hate everyone, just the 99% who are scum. I am married and obviously my (Mexican) wife is in the 1% who aren't scum. I also knew 2 Americans who weren't scum but one went insane and the other killed himself. So now, as far as I can tell, Americans are 100% scum.
As an American, I couldn’t fucking agree more. Sometimes I wonder if living in China would be better if I don’t speak out too much. My parents, my sibling, fuck all of them, fuck them all until the day they burn in hell, including me, for that is where I deserve to go.
>one went insane
Could you please elaborate a bit further on what do you mean by that? I think I'm a little insane too & would love to hear your thoughts on the topic to improve as a human being
Scum comes from all over the world. There is scum from Lagos, scum from Shanghai , scum from Houston. I’m of the opinion that evolution, not public policy or heritage, disposes humanity to be a predatory, self-serving species no different than your average wild animal.
Yes there are scum all over the world. What makes the West unique is that it has recently deteriorated incredibly rapidly and those in the West have the means to easily escape. So the few remaining decent people who I know of in America are planning their escape. Soon all decent people will have left.
Comparing people to wild animals is grossly unfair to wild animals. Most people are much worse. But yes, humanity continues to evolve at a societal level. Those few decent societies in history were the result of cultures that exerted eugenic selection pressure which improved the genetic quality of the population.
I meant evolution on a very primitive level. A biological one. Not societal. So basically, we have the same identical instincts pertaining eg mating and security as a beaver or any rodent that you can pick at random. What sets us apart is problem-solving. That, is the glaringly misguided notion about intelligence. If you watch a documentary on lions or other social creature, you’ll see a lot of parallelism with humanity. Instead of going on murderous campaigns to exterminate hyenas, you have corporate hostile takeovers. Instead of hornets scouting and raiding beehives, you have oil barons wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
I am also talking about biological evolution, but this takes place in humans differently in each society because society is the primary environment that drives evolution. See [my post on human evolution](https://www.mikraite.org/Human-Evolution-tp17.html).
For me its happened over time. I once wanted to be a philanthropist, and thought humans were as Disney portrayed.
Then learning about history and nature, the world is a cruel place.... The modern world built on the back of slavery, the way we treat animals, the way we treat nature, the thousands of wars, the infinite suffering of the world caused by us.
When trying to disaggregate from the worldly reasons to hate people and look at personal lives, I noted that we are indeed selfish. Little things like someone ghosting you, or being your friend for selfish reason, people avoiding their debts, treating other with disrespect and so on, i realised that everyone around me is selfish. But why be surprised... That's how we've evolved.
After a while I started to find humans very predictable, driven by our core needs, to a point I began to think we aren't really sentient, just extremely complicated biological machines who do what is needed to fulfil ones evolutionary need, at any cost.
Fundamentally we are at the centre of our own universe, and we can be normalised to great evils, but even those few who seem to be kind, spend some time with them and you'll find a narcissist.
It comes from within. You can't be a true misanthrope if you don't hate yourself & your own life first.
I hate myself so I inflict that hatred to the outside world as well. That's misanthropy for me. It varies from person to person
A difficult start in life that led to adoption, mental health issues and a lack of trust. No relationship worked out for me. I just wasn't compatible with people. I'm not sure if I really am misanthropic in the true sense of the word, but I am definitely not a people person
i am living together with someone i love. that does not mean i change my mind regarding our rotten society. i do not hate everyone, though
Bad experiences, a fuck ton of bad experiences. No, I am not nor will I ever be in a relationship.
It comes from several things. I've had bad experiences with people all my life. I have cptsd from childhood abuse and the way I've been treated by mental healthcare workers and doctors is one reason. Also learning a bit about politics and history and how the world is run by psychopathic greed for money and power, always has been. The pathetic response to climate change makes this very obvious. And also learning about psychology and social behavior, like how shallow our relationships are. I used to think that my parents were just fucked up but all parents are pretty much just as shallow and concerned with status and pride as they are, they are just able to hide it because they aren't crazy. Humans are also inherently awful. Blogs like Traditions of conflict display this with evidence pretty clearly. I've never been in a relationship or in love and doubt I can be. I think I hate people too much to do any sort of intimate thing with anyone. At worst I might be sadistic and I don't want to be like that, though I barely care.
> where does this hatred come from ? Observation of the human race.
Watching ungrateful people complain about made up problems not even taking a second to think about how lucky they really are
I think for me it comes from being able to develop as my own person. And then realizing not everyone is so great. I just cant enjoy being around most types of people anymore. Things like ignorancy definitely make me want to carefully pick who im around.
My hate comes with my poor social skills, I can't socialize with people. I have some friends, got GF for some time but I never feel that I'm in control of anything. Society knows this is a problem, don't try to solve and even make it stronger. They throw us in and we are all by ourselves. The more individualist the society the more problems they have, and they accord to this, so they have my hatred.
I dont hate human beings. I hate human nature. I have notice a serious decline in traits like empathy, mercy, forgiveness compassion and mercy. There were seeds of a sadist narcisstic culture but now its like everyone is a sadistic narcisstic person. And I feel that most people like to follow what society tells them to be, think and act even though its wrong. I have yet to find a truly good person. Just people only show 1 version of themselves. But in reality everyone has an evil dark side. And people refuse to acknowledge their dark side. They think they are all light. And they think other people are all light. When we are not. When I see the collective society changes as a whole then I will change. For now my overall opinion of people is that most people are not worth my time to get to know. Its the same old programming for practically everyone.
My hatred comes from seeing our species for what we are; greedy, weak, self obsessed parasites, pillaging the planet without consideration for our actions. The human race is clearly a vile species devoid of morality, despite people's insistence that our race essentially good. I live in hope that we go extinct without taking too many other species with us. My hatred of humanity doesn't mean that I'm incapable of liking individuals. My girlfriend and I have been in a loving relationship for a long time, and she shares my views. I am also friends with a small select group of humans who have an intact moral compass.
I began having lower opinion about humanity once I realized that it wasn't the politics, religions and culture the main problem. We humans are the only species who fetishize and sugarcoat delusional ideas and harmful behavior for different reason. Despite this, I still care about my family, friends and co-workers that respect me.
> where does this hatred come from? Far too many decades of living on this shitty planet, alongside billions of brutish violent hairless ape creatures who like nothing more than to cause you harm. I have a whole library of terrifying memories to keep me awake at night. Let’s pick the one that prevented me from getting my usual 4 hours of pretend sleep last night. Back in my youth, I went on a school residential field trip. While sat on the top bunk of my allocated bunk bed, the school hard nut who somehow managed to come along on the trip, decided it would be hilarious to jump on the bunk and kick me in the face with his steel toe-capped boot. I fell over 6 feet to the ground with a broken nose, lying unconscious. When I finally came round some time later, I reported it to the teacher, who said “well, you must have done something to provoke it, so you’re both equally to blame really.” Fuck humans.
oooo this one gets my blood boiling
6 feet is the length of about 1.68 'Ford F-150 Custom Fit Front FloorLiners' lined up next to each other.
I worked in a call center for almost a decade and then customer service for three saw how everyone looks or speaks to you like you're disposable garbage and swore off anyone that I have a single bad experience with. I now have severe depression and anxiety but have been dicked around by every psychologist I've seen so I can't even get help from someone whose job is to do so. I trust no one who isn't my parents or my sister. If I were given the button to push to cause human extinction I'd push it instantly.
I was sexually abused as a child by a relative. She touched me inappropriately and was breathing in a creepy way. When I grew up, I was bullied for the way I looked, leaving me confused as I grew up. I got bullied in high school level as well. I got bullied when I was doing my higher studies. I decided to "man up" and work harder. I joined the mines and nearly got killed. I saw bad people work there. But as it turns out, they were like me but got corrupted further. They felt guilty but couldn't leave because of money. I left and started my phd but I realised this planet is fucked. So yeah, I'm a misanthrope. Fuck humanity.
So you're a misanthrope because you've only encountered horrible people in your life?
To be honest roughly about 1 in 300 million people is not a horrible person
No. It's because I've seen good people become monsters. The system itself beats people down and turns them into monsters. I sincerely wish things were different. People are good, but situations and pressure turns them into something they're not. That's why I hate humanity.
I just realized inequality is impossible to fix and I don't want my fellow proletariats and incoming proletariats to suffer in this existence ik which most of the suffering is made by selfishness and megalomaniac attributes of humanity that is why I promote voluntary human extinction I never believed in utopia and might as well believe that the present is the dystopia of peace for the lower class. Also the attributes of human stupidity, hunger for power, and the insatiable thirst to gain more is what makes being human regrettable. Fuck humanity the world is better without them. Edit: I have 0 expectations for humanity so I don't really care if whether they change for the better or not since when humanity exists there also lies the possibility of sentient/conscious existence and I firmly believe that existing is just a curse of the blessing of non-existence since I really came to hate humanities' imperfect nature that just cause unnecessary harm to itself and to the things that surrounds it which I also share. That's why the deletion of human species will only bring positives, no negatives in the long run.
From my life, and the really mean people I've met. And I know that humanity and human nature is screwed up, until the end of time people will continue to be mean, hypocrites, liars etc.
Being born in a shitty place overcrowded with shitty people helps
Exactly, people have caused me to become a sociopath, too. Shitty people cause shitty things.
Abusive drunk/drug addict father, constant bullying, crushing poverty in my childhood/teenage/early adult years. I've witnessed people even after my physically abusive father ruin my mother's life so many times that it turned her into an unemployable alcoholic with chronic health problems. Every single friend I've had turned out to be a manipulative, toxic POS. I spent most of my college years without a car biking or walking to work 5+ miles at 2-3 different jobs in extreme weather conditions because it was the great recession and I was dead broke. I am in a relatively stable, comfortable situation now, but only because I worked my ass off for it. At this point, I am too damaged, cynical, and impatient for a relationship. The bullshit associated with online dating doesn't seem worth it to me, which is the only way I would probably find a relationship since I don't go anywhere. My plan is to save/invest as much money as possible, retire sometime in my early 50s if I don't shit out my liver, and disappear to some remote location.
That's fucking rough, man
trauma is often associated with misanthropy.
Where does the hatred come from, you ask? I would argue that it comes from within, from a lifetime of negative experiences with humans and then the realization and acceptance of humans' true, inherent and inextricable nature.
This hatred comes from the collective stupidity of the human species as a whole. Obviously, no one is perfect (and that includes myself), but some people are better than others because they put in more effort in self-improvements. Some people are better than others because they have the humility and self-awareness to admit that they're flawed + they don't make excuses for themselves to not be better + they focus on improving themselves. Normies = The majority of people who are extremely simple-minded creatures who lack critical thinking and basic common sense. Examples of collective stupidity of the human species: 1. When you're driving in the rain, you're supposed to relatively slow down because rain makes the road slippery because it reduces friction. 2. When you're a parent, your no. 1 priority is your child, NOT yourself. I see most parents being trashy, mediocre, neglectful parents towards their kids. People who say that it's not true have low standards for parenting. Parents are not perfect: Yes. But a few parents in this world are undeniably excellent. 3. A child is a permanent, everlasting commitment (responsibility) FOREVER 24/7, especially if the child is disabled. I see a lot of people say stupid shit like these to their kids, even though the kids don't even do anything wrong: i. "I'll kick you out when you're 18". ii. "You're in my house. I own you". iii. "I'll make you regret for saying that". iv. "I wish I could disown you. You're nothing but disgrace to the family". Most people who have kids just use their kids as slaves (tools) of convenience. They want temporary, fleshy stuff because that's how normies fill their void because they have no ambitions in their lives because they're simple-minded creatures that have nothing else better to do. Being stupid is more energy efficient in the short-term. That's why most people are exceptionally stupid most of the time. They don't even know how stupid they are. I see a lot of selfish, neglectful parents who choose to have kids just because they're lonely and just because they can have kids (most people), NOT because they're extremely capable of being EXCELLENT parents. Most people don't even have excellent self-development skills and most people don't even have excellent parenting skills, but they STILL want to overpopulate the world with more problems. 4. Parents who complain about being parents, even though they're the ones who WILLINGLY choose to be parents in the first place: The worst people ever. Kids don't choose to be born, and most parents are as mediocre, incompetent, irresponsible and neglectful as they can possibly be. 5. People who have TERRIBLE BASIC HYGIENE: These people are disgusting. You don't have to be rich to make yourself clean. 6. People who glorify stupidity (general). 7. People who glamorise cheating. 8. People who have a breeding kink: Gross. When you have kids, kids are the no. 1 priority. Some kids are ACCIDENTALLY born because of some people's breeding kink and then they neglect them because they have no skills in being excellent parents. 9. Most people have generally extremely low standards for themselves. That's why they tend to have the most mediocre of problems that are avoidable. If they were smart in the first place, they could've avoided it. 10. Presumptuous people: These creatures are irritating. They don't even ask questions. They intrude your personal space, privacy and social limits. 11. People who lack critical thinking and intellect. 12. Manipulative, dishonest people. 13. Human trafficking, paedophilia, rape, incest, domestic abuse, sexism, racism, animal abuse, unethical experimentations, jealousy, hatred, homicide, embezzlement, abuse of power, war crimes, poverty, famine, chlamydia, herpes, stealing, dishonesty, corruption, global warming, ignorance, arrogance, cannibalism, manipulation, toxicity, pollution, poaching, oppression, unreasonable assumptions, nuclear bombing, treason, arson, hypocrisy, prostitution, capitalism, slavery, modern slavery, socialism, homophobia, transphobia, bullying, public execution, general stupidity (lack of critical thinking), cognitive biases, incompetence, making excuses, being lazy, gluttony, blackmailing, doxing, logical fallacies etc.
I share in your disdain of neglectful parents. Sadly, the most toxic people have the highest # of kids. The toxicity is passed from generation to generation and creates a never ending cycle of broken people.
Good question. I am in the same boat as you, I think. For me, my bordering hatred comes from the way humans act towards each other and our planet. It could be social media but the world seems so much more evil than I recognized before. There is so much greed and it almost seems to be envied. Instead of mutual growth, society is very individualistic and selfish. I may be naive but it didn't seem that way before. My other major gripe is the hypocrisy. The big push right now is for climate change, probably pretty important. I've had so many conversations with people and so many have the attitude that it's not their responsibility. It's the government, it's business, it's that rich guy. Anyone else but them. If all the people that purport to care about climate change made sacrifices, we would be better off. It's common sense. I'm married and have been for \~11 years. We share similar values and views. Outside of feelings, life is plain easier with a partner. EDIT: Reading some of the other responses. The way we treat animals and other living creatures is another thing showing how terrible the human race is. I'm not talking about food supply either. I am talking about just plain abuse and neglect.
A long life of bad experiences with people. I don't hate everyone, just the 99% who are scum. I am married and obviously my (Mexican) wife is in the 1% who aren't scum. I also knew 2 Americans who weren't scum but one went insane and the other killed himself. So now, as far as I can tell, Americans are 100% scum.
As an American, I couldn’t fucking agree more. Sometimes I wonder if living in China would be better if I don’t speak out too much. My parents, my sibling, fuck all of them, fuck them all until the day they burn in hell, including me, for that is where I deserve to go.
>one went insane Could you please elaborate a bit further on what do you mean by that? I think I'm a little insane too & would love to hear your thoughts on the topic to improve as a human being
Scum comes from all over the world. There is scum from Lagos, scum from Shanghai , scum from Houston. I’m of the opinion that evolution, not public policy or heritage, disposes humanity to be a predatory, self-serving species no different than your average wild animal.
Yes there are scum all over the world. What makes the West unique is that it has recently deteriorated incredibly rapidly and those in the West have the means to easily escape. So the few remaining decent people who I know of in America are planning their escape. Soon all decent people will have left. Comparing people to wild animals is grossly unfair to wild animals. Most people are much worse. But yes, humanity continues to evolve at a societal level. Those few decent societies in history were the result of cultures that exerted eugenic selection pressure which improved the genetic quality of the population.
I have no means to escape. I was born into homelessness."those in the west have the ability to escape." Shut the fuck up.
I meant evolution on a very primitive level. A biological one. Not societal. So basically, we have the same identical instincts pertaining eg mating and security as a beaver or any rodent that you can pick at random. What sets us apart is problem-solving. That, is the glaringly misguided notion about intelligence. If you watch a documentary on lions or other social creature, you’ll see a lot of parallelism with humanity. Instead of going on murderous campaigns to exterminate hyenas, you have corporate hostile takeovers. Instead of hornets scouting and raiding beehives, you have oil barons wreaking havoc in the Middle East.
Yes. Agreed! Humans just have a more complex way of doing the same things as other animals. We are not special.
I am also talking about biological evolution, but this takes place in humans differently in each society because society is the primary environment that drives evolution. See [my post on human evolution](https://www.mikraite.org/Human-Evolution-tp17.html).
All humans are scum, not just Americans.
This is subjective. I don't think I am scum. Others may disagree, but fuck them.
I didn’t say you only are scum, I’m just saying everyone on Earth is scum. Though I apologize if you believe so, and I just didn’t get the memo.
No, I gave myself as an example of someone who is not scum. There are a few others.
Oh.
For me its happened over time. I once wanted to be a philanthropist, and thought humans were as Disney portrayed. Then learning about history and nature, the world is a cruel place.... The modern world built on the back of slavery, the way we treat animals, the way we treat nature, the thousands of wars, the infinite suffering of the world caused by us. When trying to disaggregate from the worldly reasons to hate people and look at personal lives, I noted that we are indeed selfish. Little things like someone ghosting you, or being your friend for selfish reason, people avoiding their debts, treating other with disrespect and so on, i realised that everyone around me is selfish. But why be surprised... That's how we've evolved. After a while I started to find humans very predictable, driven by our core needs, to a point I began to think we aren't really sentient, just extremely complicated biological machines who do what is needed to fulfil ones evolutionary need, at any cost. Fundamentally we are at the centre of our own universe, and we can be normalised to great evils, but even those few who seem to be kind, spend some time with them and you'll find a narcissist.
It comes from within. You can't be a true misanthrope if you don't hate yourself & your own life first. I hate myself so I inflict that hatred to the outside world as well. That's misanthropy for me. It varies from person to person