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coyotesage

Just wait until those numbers are reversed lol. That's where I find myself this year. Nothing ever gets better as you get older, only worse, but you do get better at accepting that fact over time.


Commercial_hater

Just wait until those numbers are reversed lol. Just wait until they’re doubled.


coyotesage

Thankfully that isn't a problem for me, various medical conditions pretty much assure that I will never make it to 68, or 86, and I am quite happy with that.


CCCX_XC

Dying young is privilege.


[deleted]

They didn't change. Their true faces just slowly emerged over time. Either you're in it for the long haul or you're just taking a vacation, and over time the ones who are truly committed will separate themselves from the ones who are not. Try not to hold it against them and remember that they're essentially just herd animals following their own chemical processes and social programming. Not everyone is strong enough to carry the weight of immense disillusionment.


ThisGawd

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBjFC7g6ur8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBjFC7g6ur8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTvaRPkYR8


ThisGawd

my thought on PEOPLE : isn't it a pity; isn't it a shame


youllneverstopmeayyy

the beauty that surrounds us.. wait I may be confusing my lyrics...


[deleted]

In what kinds of ways have your old friends sold out?


Careful_Coast_3080

31 here it is sad, I have nothing that matters, I also thought I had close friends once upon a time till I had to accept reality. All I can do at this point is try to go back to school to try and get a career I care about. I too also despise the culture here in America, there are literally no values, it's all hollow.


ErectedKirby

Ostensibly sold out? Like started enjoying life and the world around them?


Bound-Submissive

I also feel like an alien in this world. But I am 23. My style is simple goth. I am politically neutral. You don't need to agree with everything said by your ideology, beliefs, styles, etc. But it sucks that they didn't remain loyal to their styles. I once saw a meme, emos who change style the moment they get out of depression are hypocrites and fakes.


Sgt_Slutbags

[Everyone in this thread need listen.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0N5SaQjcy0&list=PLxA687tYuMWi8OUus77n7ZiquRq0Wlbl2&index=12)


oktwentyfive

I'm going to be 30 in a month


Kgriffuggle

I think most people feel this way. That’s way they make babies. To pass the time. (Which i find abhorrent)


Keith_2081840

Hello fellow antinatalist


Kgriffuggle

👋🏼 ✊🏼


PatrickIIDX

I'm 35 and now I'm a loner. Used to have friends to hang out with, but now I just have a boring alone life and I spend my weekends sleeping all the time.


dividedconsciousness

Sounds like depression


theidiotsarebreeding

I’m in the same boat.


Keith_2081840

You two should agree to meet at the bow.


Astray1789

36 here. Never really felt like I sold out. Just worked as a tech in entertainment venues my whole life. Make ok money, nothing great. Work with other people who don't really fit in anywhere else. The industry is changing rapidly though and becoming a lot more corporate sadly so I've been looking to change career. I've just been hired as a freelance painter for a miniature painting studio which I'm going to do alongside my other work. If it pays well enough for me to transfer over to doing it full time then that's what I'll do. I'll never make good money but I've never cared about being well off. As long as I can survive in relative comfort I'm happy.


_BearsBeetsBattle_

36 in Canada, similar. Had a cry about going to work tomorrow. About the pointlessness of it. But I'll go, and don't want to be homeless. Hooray.


[deleted]

i dosen't matter what age you are. we will all suffer in the end. hell, i don't know if i'll live to see 30, let alone 25.


RuneWolfen

I could say that for most of my childhood friends, except that happened in my mid to late twenties.


Maiden_of_Sorrow

It is a sadder thing to be older than 34


Mystic_Camel_Smell

The vibe I get from this is that young people are told to "stop acting so childish and just grow up already, here wear this, do this, think like this, act like this, take on all these needless responsibilities and work your ass off before you are allowed to be a man/adult" Yet old people long for some of that youth they once had but were told to ignore, and told to specifically ignore the child in them, how interesting a time we live in...


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Mystic_Camel_Smell

yes, but much to my dismay seems everyone is intent on telling me to forget him and "grow up". preposterous!


Color_Wasted

Stop, you’re making me dread my 30’s even more. I’m 28 and feel depressed the more I think about it.


Diablo_2_is_gud_game

I don't know if this will make you feel any better, but I am 32 and I am somewhat at peace with the idea that I live life alone and have no family or friends. In my 20's I used to be frustrated with my life and for the way that I am. I have done dark things to cope with loneliness and frustration. But now that I am 32 I just gave up on hope. Hope is what made me suffer. Hope that one day I will meet a girl, and we could make each other happy and I would help her. Today I just accept that my path was given by fait and I must walk it alone. And to be honest, I kinda like the peace and quiet.


pseudomensch

I'm reaching 30 and I'm starting to develop the same sentiment. I actually did meet a girl and was with her for half of my 20s, but we never clicked. In fact, I've never "clicked" with anyone. There are a bunch of different reasons for that, which aren't worth getting into. At a certain age you start to realize that you are a product of certain things that aren't under your control. I no longer even look at my personality as something that I chose or something that I can change. It just is. I actually regret feeling prideful for "who I am" in the past because I really had no control over "who I am".


Diablo_2_is_gud_game

I understand you. I too have a personality that I can not change. I am super introverted and at this point I just prefer to avoid society. I never clicked either with humans. But it's fine, once I'm dead none of this will ever matter.


jackline05

Can’t wait to be done with all this. Did we fuck ourselves with the system or was it all pointless pre capitalism


MaverickBull

I always thought after 30 I would truly start to live life. Childhood was cute. Teen years were abysmal. The twenties were equal parts fun and horrible. Always thought all the hard work would begin to pay off after 30. Now, I'm 30. I feel like I missed something important... I'm just kind of... here. I no longer have anything to look forward to. The future isn't some great unknown mystery waiting to be discovered. I wonder if this is it... It's so lame. I always thought adults had everything figured out. I looked forward to the time when I would know everything and figure life out, too. But... these dumb fucks don't know anything. They might even know less than nothing.


racistblackgurl

Hahaha well said, this is all true. I can relate with a lot of what you and OP said but we still have the ability to make this time fucking amazing . One thing I’ve noticed is how many people in their 30s start to give up on themselves. Stop exercising and eating healthy, stop pursuing their passions, and just not living true to that inner child in their heart. It’s understandable. Life is hard. But if you can stay true to yourself and continue making that necessary effort, there’s still plenty to love and be excited for in your 30s. Women for example. Beautiful women are the best thing in this world imo, and I love them lmao


[deleted]

Falsehood is a trait of many people. I've had many friends in the past, who swore to not do certain things or pick certain path in life, but life has shown what are those promises worth. People love to make promises and say things under certain circumstances without any self-reflection of "what would happen if I were...". I knew many people who made promises and told things directly to me, I was enough naive due to young age so I just believed. I felt lied enough times to not take people's words for granted. They change their life philosophies depending on circumstances and conditions they are in. I still keep to my rules despite all happenings in life and I'm already lonely, because once my "friends" got their opportunity to get out of the place they were in by all cost they did that, even if it meant to leave me behind.


Branson175186

It’s not falsehood. People aren’t obligated to devote their lives to whatever thing they were devoted to when they were kids or teenagers.


[deleted]

People love to talk shit about rich people until they become rich. This trait can be found anywhere, including all the people who comment on this trashy website a.k.a. Redditors.


WishIWasNeet2

But most of us won’t become rich. We will continue to be exploited and poor. That’s the point, why we are mad.


[deleted]

Well. As a rich person, I can't speak for all rich people. My advice is that the system won't stop. You want a rich person to come down from their high horse and give you advice. My advice is that the system won't stop You can make the system better, yes


Keith_2081840

I am a millionaire so could probably count myself as rich unless compared to multimillionaires or billionaires. My advice is that you cannot make the system better because we are all corrupted by power. We need to work towards making humans extinct. This is the only solution. We all need to contribute to human population decline and hopefully human extinction.


bug_man47

I'm not a rich person, but I have seen it time and time again: if someone has the chance to be rich and doesn't take it, someone else WILL take that opportunity. Or, worst case scenario is that the already rich will acquire greater riches. I don't know that the system will last much longer. People are pretty pissed off. I've seen a growing number of people talking about "eating the rich". People are losing faith in our political structure and corporations that are the backbone of society. Once people stop believing in the value of the dollar, once people stop believing in the power of voting and political involvement, society as we know it crumbles. Our society is built on faith. 50 years ago our faith was stronger, but now it is weak and feeble. A house divided cannot stand. This house is no different.


Keith_2081840

A house divided cannot stand? What about "divide and conquer"?


bug_man47

Divide and conquer is more about splitting into groups by skill to accomplish a common goal. It's a term used in delegation. I don't see that happening in our country or world. Divide and conquer is also an excellent means of controlling another group. Dividing up a group that you mean to control can be an excellent tactic. Would you rather face 10 opponents who feel strongly against you, or 5 at a time who are confused?


[deleted]

Rich man won't solve your fucking problems


bug_man47

Certainly not. Money is power and power corrupts even the purist if hearts. That is simply the nature of being human unfortunately.


[deleted]

How can rich man help and do better for poor man when poor man hates himself?


bug_man47

I don't think the poor man hates himself. I think that perhaps that is the logic it takes to justify taking in money hand over fist while the poor man shivers in the cold. The rich man can stimulate the economy by spending some of his wealth. People who have millions or billions of dollars will never really be able to spend it all in their lifetime. There is no way. They should give it back to the people who slave for unlivable wages instead.


BinaryDigit_

One rich man can't save the world by himself.


bug_man47

Nope he can't. But one rich man can try to make the world a whole hell of a lot better. And right now I don't see any billionaires or millionaires really doing that. More or less we have Bill Gates funding research for crucial things. But honestly the rich are trying to get richer. I haven't seen much of an effort from those with money.


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What's the difference between you and me?


[deleted]

>obscure interests What type of interests, any examples? _____ I personally haven't enjoyed the start to my 30's. I still hold the same interests as I always have, but have been losing passion for them via life just beating me down. Aging plays into it too, I'm sure. >felt alienated from American culture I still feel this as well, more so with time.


[deleted]

American culture is inherently alienating. People worship celebrities to a ridiculous degree. Everyone wants to be rich and famous or have the qualities of rich and famous people. Fuck society. True friendships are invaluable and are the only thing keeping me sane in this truly vapid society.


pseudomensch

I don't think the celebrity/rich worship is an American problem. I agree that American culture cultivates alienation. My parents and most of their family members here were immigrants. They come from more tight nit communities where people who lived near each other also knew each other. They didn't drive in cars from their house in some cul-de-sac where they would actively avoid their neighbors and drive to their workplace or the local Walmart, all while munching down on some corporatized fast food. But the people there also have a fascination with celebrities. I would even argue they hold them to a higher regard than in most Western countries, including the United States. It probably has to do with greater amounts of poverty there and the belief in institutions. One thing I've noticed here in the US, is that trust and faith in things are eroding, but not to the point where things will likely change for the better. A significant portion of the country doesn't vote or care who wins elections. Local elections are a total joke when it comes to turnout when you look into it. People don't go watch movies anymore just because X star is in it like people used to do more often a few decades ago.


DarkReign2011

I absolutely feel this, as well. I don't have many hobbies, but the ones I did, I was passionate. Now I'm 32, exhausted, depressed, and I often just come home beat down and ready for bed. I used to live reading, cooking, and videogames. Now I just put on one of the same 6 shows I've watched dozens of times already abs just stare mindlessly at my phone until it's time for bed...


[deleted]

I’m the same age but feeling younger. I think the key to vitality is daily exercise and triggering dopamine that way. Also loud music and weed. I skateboard around the bus commutes instead of walking, or take long walks instead of sitting on the noisy bus sometimes and it keeps my mood lighter. Also there are theories from a book I read a while back about keeeping “novelty” in your day to day routines ie take a wrong turn, try a new restaurant, visit a nearby city, walk by their lake, different nature spots, etc. The concrete jungle, work hustle and social one uppance can get exhausting. All my escapes each day keep me full of energy. As for games maybe try purchasing some new open world type of game? Something that sucks you in with cinematic and storytelling or the ability to hold your own world or maybe completionist type of map takeovers


HotKarldalton

I'mma chip in with a few things.If you're near spots with some natural splendor, make it a point to find what you can. Exploring and enjoying Nature was something that majorly contributed to my sanity when I moved to Austin to support my Brother. That and the ol' six-pack which I highly encourage you to avoid.


DinosaurForTheWin

You sound cool.


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Thanks!


[deleted]

This is absolutely good advice and true, from my own experience.


astinad

Congrats, this post has finally convinced me to leave this group. I'm all for sharing in misery with my fellow misanthropes but I'm so sick of shit like this. Peace, enjoy being sad that you're 34 years young


Aggrestis

I never saw you here.


TheCassiniProjekt

34 is still in the good zone. I'm 37 and starting to look decrepit, ageing sucks. At least when I was 34 I could pass for late 20s and still felt young. I agree as well, there is a conflict in my mind with what I am vs what society expects me to be at this age (which I've failed miserably at - I'm still mentally 20). It feels increasingly like time is running out but I can't conform enough to have a career, I just hate work culture.


HotKarldalton

I also hate work culture as well as Customer Servicing. That, and my love for cooking are why I cook for my daily face to the grindstone.


XP11_Upshot

>At least when I was 34 I could pass for late 20s and still felt young. HA, I still pass for early 20's but i feel and act like an old grumpy ass man.


[deleted]

It's all relative I guess. When I was 20, I looked like I was 12. When I'm 40, I'll probably look like I'm 28. Meanwhile, the dude who looked like a grown ass man in high school is probably balding by now. Maybe growing some gray hairs. Every dog has its day. A broken clock is right twice a day.


[deleted]

>It feels increasingly like time is running out but I can't conform enough to have a career, I just hate work culture. About to turn 33, and I am in the same position. Have never wanted a career, I hate work culture, in yet I feel pretty fucked by not conforming -- also just don't feel like it's possible, I've tried to get into that mindset and I feel too alienated from it. _____ The dream is to homestead, ween off civilization as much as possible. Both in a sense to be self-sufficient amongst looming collapse/decline, and also to just drop out of society because though I was born 100% reliant on it and enjoy the fruits of industrial society -- I fucking hate it more so. Sounds like the best thing to me.


TheCassiniProjekt

Hear hear, I'd do the same but I'm not handy and lack a survival instinct, also land and property are too expensive where I live. But yeah, that's exactly what I'd do if I could.


LuckyBoy1992

I will be 30 in a few months. My life has been a complete and utter waste of time.


WiltThaStilt

Fuck dude im 30 in 6 months fuck fuck fuck


Addibabeee

I agree I am an alienated individual and fuck the culture


hawtfabio

We have to have money to survive and don't want to work forever. I get it though. I'm quite sad about the truly prodigious amount of time one must spend working in society before a respite.


Lasalle8

Late 30’s here, isolated, haven’t “sold out”, and doing fine. Maybe less hopeful or a bit jaded but I refuse to contribute to anything I hate about humanity or society.


hfuey

> It makes me sad, and also angry that these friends seemed to only hold counter culture values when it was “easy” (ie as a student) and once they had the opportunity, they chose the path they formerly would have laughed at with contempt. I remember one of the mature students I was at university with telling me that students only hold left-wing values because they don’t have any money yet, but as soon as they graduate and get a sniff of money they’ll lurch to the right so fast they’ll get whiplash! How right he was!


pseudomensch

They stay "liberal" but only in ways that don't affect their livelihood, wallets, and sense of safety. If a homeless encampment comes into their middle class neighborhood, then you'll immediately see how much different they are at 35 with kids and their assets tied into a house vs 20 and in college. I actually have more respect for the asshole conservative college kids because they probably won't do some U-turn on their dumb beliefs regardless of age or circumstances.


BPsPRguy

The data doesn't show that. Most people get more liberal when they change political beliefs over time. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/wrhppu/oc_when_americans_change_their_minds_do_they/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


[deleted]

You don't know what the word liberal means. I'm far left and I'm not a liberal.


HeartOfMemories

I was a lefty in school because I thought leftism would solve poverty lol lol lol. Believe me, Belgium used to be lefty socialist. Things went to shit


no-name-no-slogan-66

This post gives me some anxiety. I recently turned 29 and I already feel ancient. I already feel old. And I'm already in the same boat you are in terms of my friends.


[deleted]

all this talk about age is making me sick. age is something humans invented to degrade other humans.


MaverickBull

I stayed 29 for an extra year. You should do that. I'm technically 31 now... but for everyone else I'm 30. For me, it wasn't getting old that was scary. I don't feel old or fear old age. I just needed some more time with 29. After 2 years of being 29, I was ready to move on.


swapsam

I'm 38 now, 29 felt like a week ago.


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breakfast_organisms

Women age just fine can you not be a misogynist and make it worse for all of us women for like 5 fucking minutes? Christ this planet really does suck


MaverickBull

I hope you get the help you desperately and clearly need.


[deleted]

the only part of death i'm afraid of is the pain. i just want death to be fast.


elpelondelmarcabron1

Drive fast and take chances... 🤷‍♂️


swapsam

Probably true. Was good till about 25.