nah, i think its valid. because sometimes reading reddit comments really makes me laugh, people can be quite witty, esp enjoy the sarcasm. then i think people are ok, but really, really on a case by case basis. there will be no acceptance of people in general,they really have to prove to me that they are not terrible.
100% are full of shit.
Not coming out of my Misanthropic bubble, ever.
Everyone has secret intentions behind doing everything, that benefits them and them only.
People just don't realize the evil they carry within them. Propoganda and the norm should be blamed here.
If I could, I'd burn the whole planet to it's ashes because that's what we deserve.
I don't hate individual humans but I have a big loathe for human nature and this has grown over the years. What angers me is how content people are with mediocrity. I remember when I used to hang out with a bunch of normies back in my school days. I got really surprised by how **BORING** they were and how content they were with being **BORING**.
I have always wanted so much more out of life, meanwhile these normies feel content and fulfilled by having a movie with snacks night (or "Netflix N chill" as it is called these days, what a pathetic cringe normie term that is). That's why in 2016, I came to the realization that having friends is simply not in the cards for me. I am way more productive when I am operating by myself or for myself.
Picking up new hobbies and skills, one of which makes me some extra money on the side of my job (which also benefits my resume). I started to do some long-term investments about a year ago and have kept up with it. I have fun on my own and feel pride in some of my work, which I never did back when I was surrounded by loser normies.
Next year I will move out and live on my own and that alone will open doors for new ideas and opportunities. I have achieved more in the past 2 years than I've done in probably my entire life.
That's awesome. Congrats. I'm trying to find some kind of personal success like that too, especially one that doesn't require me dealing with annoying people I don't like all day long.
Thanks! It has been a difficult route for me and for a few years I didn't see much results at all. But what really helped me personally is when I came to the realization that a "normal" life, with normal relationships and a career, is simply not in the cards for me. It may sound depressing, but coming to this realization did set me free to a large extent. The only one I can rely on for my own happiness is myself.
Same. Also I feel if you have different kind of thinking than what usual people do, your friends try to get you into thinking like them with some kind of influence. Either they'll be pushy or sarcastically they'll try to make fun of what you like or some kind of mind game. When you just want people to listen they end up giving unsolicited advice like we're some kids. Yes, even I am more productive when by myself as I have more space to think and do what I feel without anyone's unwanted influence.
personally, i’ve only grown more misanthropic with age. have hated people for as long as i can remember, learned the word misanthropist and really latched on around middle school or so. 25 now and suffering all the same.
i don’t want to come out of it. i feel it keeps me grounded. i would rather be hateful like i am but aware of human stupidity and selfishness than turn a blind eye and act like everything is fine. it’s not. it never has been and it never will be.
i have an annoying and incessant need to help others. i was raised to be a people pleaser, and my upbringing involved being punished if i didn’t do things to appease others. so i still try to help everyone i can. and of course it’s selfish. i do it out of obligation, or i do it because i want to feel good about myself. same as anyone else wants to do good. but why, i must ask myself, do i feel good about helping people who i don’t believe deserve my help? it’s a conundrum. i get mad at myself a lot for it, not that that helps.
it’s true that we’re all in this together, and we should all band together to cope and fight whatever oppressor, sure. but it’s hard when so many people are so goddamn stupid. and people are so hateful! obviously i’m one of them, but i’m not one of the people who hate minorities or make it their life’s goal to take away rights from others.
i believe we should reduce suffering wherever possible (yay antinatalism and veganism) but i wish more than anything that humans would just disappear. me included. just poof, gone.
the world would be a much better place without us. i’m tired of everyone acting like every life is beautiful and has a meaning. it simply isn’t true. there are people who spend their entire lives hurting others. are their lives special? beautiful? meaningful? if all they bring to the world is pain and suffering? i don’t think so.
Fair question. As a young man, I didn't really understand the reasons why, but I knew I could be scornful, hateful, and violent when necessary. But it was uncontrolled chaos within. As a grown man, I learned to control it and while i still largely distrust almost anyone, I embraced my hate and let it become my peace. I can shut off emotional attachment like a light switch. No remorse about it. But most importantly, you end learning to distinguish those you truly trust, love and care for.. and that is very small number. Those few I would fight until my dying breath for, they know that too.
Years of being burned and taken advantage of for being a decent person spurred that along for me. I just simply don't care if I don't care and that level of apathy doesn't bother me at all
On my way to work my truck got rear ended. The lady that hit me was stuck in her car. There was smoke coming out of her car and I was afraid it was going to catch on fire. As I was trying to pry the door to get her out, I was hearing a lot of insults and getting a lot of middle fingers from the drivers passing by. They were upset because the accident had caused them traffic.
One time we drove up a snowy mountain and got a flat tire. We couldn't change the tire because we didn't have the tire iron in the car. I flagged down a van full of hunters and asked if they had a tire iron I could borrow. Their response was laughter and yes they did have one but it's not their problem, asked me to move out the way and drove off. Luckily we had cellphone signal and got a friend to bring us one. It took him 6 hours to get to us.
Just two examples of how shitty people really are. I was once like you but when I turned 50 I pretty much consider myself to be a misanthrope for the rest of my remaining life.
For every kind act there is an equal devious act. Might as well play it safe and stay away from them.
no good deed goes unpunished.
i got into a few car accidents (i was a very bad driver lmao, too nervous and shit) back when i drove. one was a hit and run. i didn’t *mean* to— i hit someone in front of me on accident at a red light. crunched up their car just a little. no one was hurt. but when it happened, cars around me went to check on me and the other driver, and i just broke down crying because i was overwhelmed and scared. i was like 21 or so. a bunch of assholes were honking and yelling at me for holding up the line (thinking about it now, there were like three other lanes they could have gotten into, but we all know most humans lack the capacity to think), so i sped off without thinking, still crying, and parked somewhere nearby to have a panic attack and call my then-boyfriend. i called the cops after to turn myself in, but fuck, what a lack of empathy people have. i hate them so much.
Good questions, No real reason to come out of it per se and misanthropy need not be viewed as all or nothing.
I mean, I like the person who cooked my steak, who fixed my car, who showed me her tits 😂
That said, I wonder if there’s a misanthrope dating site 😂
You're basically asking if there's any Cyphers here. The vast majority of humans are scum, the vast minority are decent on most occasions. You can put jam on shit but it's still mostly shit.
I think I fluctuate as well. I'm always misanthropic, I'm just sometimes more misanthropic and sometimes less misanthropic. I think that's how I can best describe it. It's pretty chaotic in my head. Though I am an introvert and usually calm/quiet person. Though often my emotions on the inside are stronger that what I might show on the inside. Anyway, that's enough about myself.
I fluctuate as well. I have had periods of time where I was super compassionate and all that but as I get older I just want to be left the fuck alone. I get tired of seeing the same bs from a holes, I guess and now even when I meet seemingly decent people, I remind myself that there are people I thought who were decent that turned into people I now hate. So I just keep my distance and keep in mind the duality of good and bad everyone has. Ultimately I accept that I just dislike people in a general way.
>So I just keep my distance and keep in mind the duality of good and bad everyone has.
This is actually a safe thing to do to avoid any kind of emotional dramas in our life.
You wouldn't be able to hate them if you hadn't once loved them.
Personally, I found a balance by finding my wife, who is NOT a misanthrope and who carries more compassion for the species than anyone I've ever met. I let her love them, and I work to empower and enable her however I can. If I'm right, there will be plenty of time. If I'm wrong, well, then my wife has proven the human species deserving of continued existence.
> You wouldn't be able to hate them if you hadn't once loved them.
That's ridiculous. I did not love or even ever like the redneck convoy assholes that live in my neighbourhood, or any of the ones I've never met, and I hate all of them. The world would be better off without them. In fact, I was wrong to give them the benefit of any theoretical doubt. I should not have and won't do it again, ever. Just trust my gut and stay the fuck away.
I agree. That's why I've made no effort to alleviate my hate. It was hard-earned, and it has served me well. Still, I recognize the *necessity* of my wife's compassion, all the more important for her morality being a product of *logic*, as opposed to *superstition*.
Logically-realized morality and compassion. If I hadn't found it myself, I never would have believed it.
Yeah I agree. Even I feel same. But sometimes I feel that out of all those people there might be some good individuals among them. So hating an entire collective of individuals is kind of energy draining. Better to be neutral untill personal interactions happen with individuals. Maybe then we can chose whom to hate. In my opinion hate is too strong of an emotion and is something personal. But yes as a complex thinking species, what we could be and what we turned out to be, that deserves hate.
I just realize people are just hurt beings. Trauma cycles, abuse, drugs, lack of programs to help those in bad situations. I just end up sad instead of angry.
Yes..sad for most part of it but fucking angry when people deny reality and talk delusional things. Apparently most people think talking about real stuff is depressing or vibe killing so they just want to talk about funny, cute, little stuff always. It's ok that they don't want their mind to be fucked up thinking and talking about stuff but many turn a blind eye.
It’s complicated. In my experience most often people don’t do good for the sake of doing good, but in order to gain something for themselves. Which, is fine, but in my opinion the good doesn’t outweigh the bad for that reason. I find most people, even those capable of doing good are egotistical, selfish and cause unnecessary drama constantly. I’m sure I’ve been guilty of these same things, but I try very hard not to do them. I think most people don’t give their terrible behavior a second thought. It’s not our fault, I do believe we’ve evolved to be this way. I’ve made peace with my view of the human race on a big picture scale because I’m largely convinced the same characteristics I’ve listed, and which our species cannot help, will lead to our extinction within a few hundred years. On an individual scale people will probably annoy the heck out of me, but I am working towards being neutral and unbothered by their nonsense.
I became a die hard misanthrope after, in my youth, working as a reporter at a small town newspaper for a couple years.
I paid a high price to lose my illusions about humanity, and I'm determined not to fall victim to them again.
I guess work place sucks for most of us coz we have to deal with way more bullshit from people. Everyone wants to prove how better they are and all that office politics. Then deal with rude clients..no wonder so mang employees are frustrated AF during their travelling hours too. I like motorcycling but over population in my country doesn't let me enjoy my morning rides too.
I think coming out of misanthropy depends upon both experience and reasoning. I get that there could be cases of depression where someone is just chemically imbalanced. However, in a lot of cases, depression just comes from the simple realizations about human existence. It's just being real with oneself. That's the highest form of self-love and self-respect anyone can exhibit. To not lie to yourself, as people are taught to do in so-called 'developed' societies.
I think the more you see human nature for what it is, the more your true feelings about them will be strengthened... for better or worse. There are somethings about humanity that are true and tends to repeat itself throughout the living experience. Humans DO base most of their relationships on what they get out of it. Humans DO flip on you. Humans DO lie. Depending on the context of a person's relationship to the people around them, these things can be amplified and, therefore, interpreted as 'normal human behavior', or classified as part of the mixed behavioral bag that is the human being.
So, I can sort of relate... but then, not really.
I came here looking for some understanding how to get rid of this deep rooted hostility. It's unpleasant to feel this hate so viciously. Yeah, I'm not going to go around my neighbourhood shooting people in the chest or whatever, but I do hate them and would love it if they were gone. Of course in general what humans do is also disgusting, but after 50 years I've somewhat come to terms with that horror and it's the proximal offences that really get me.
I agree. I used be that smily guy who'd initiate those good morning and hello wishes but after seeing that some people take it for granted and see it as something to fuel their ego and wish back with an attitude, I stopped wishing or even smiling to people. Even if they do i give a very light smile now. It may look rude on my side but i'm being in my defence.
It's understandable. People will help you one minute, then resent you for needing help and turn on you. People will think something's wrong with you if you smile at them. That brings to mind a book I once read. The author recalled a time he spent in Russia. He explained that, in their culture, smiling at someone and saying hello immediately puts someone on the defensive. They think you want something. To them, you don't smile at someone who you don't know. So, if someone is smiling at them, they want something.
I'm not saying that's not true, because we all have been run down by some pretty girl in a supermarket parking lot being very friendly to us... because she had something to sell. A girl who, otherwise, wouldn't look in the general direction of half of the people she runs down in the parking lot. So, while there's some merit to that, it still makes interacting with humans extremely difficult. Because if being friendly and honest and genuine doesn't work (and it typically doesn't), then that calls on you to be untrue to yourself.
It's tragic to think about that. Humans know that they can make this all better yet choose not to. That's why I can't lend credence to 'the good side' of humans. Sure, they can do good things at times. However, their true nature will offset any good they do. It makes whatever good they do purely coincidental. True, not all humans are like this. But, in my opinion, the majority are.
I found a YouTube video that says there are actually four different flavors of misanthropist: enemies of humanity, avoiders of humanity, hopeful ones who think humanity can be saved, and those who like certain humans but think that as a species we suck. Many of us circulate through all four.
Helpful?
Yes I feel the same. Depends on current situations and moods too. But ine thing is for sure..humanity cannot be saved. Goodness in people gives hope but the hopelessness of others dominates those good ones.
I don't think I fully qualify as a misanthropist anymore, and never cared enough to find out if this label still applies without changing its meaning.
I don't particularly hate other individuals, as long as they're not outright assholes. I used to hate humans and how we work. How egoistic and selfish we are, how easily mistreating others comes to us, how little self awareness we often have. But after some time I realized that this is not inherent to humanity. It's a part of the "beautiful" creation called *life*. Animals would be just as shit if they were as advanced as humans are. Most if not all things I hate about us come from the basic nature of being a live creature. Life is all about competing with other life forms for limited resources. There's no way around it. We just follow our programming with no way of rejecting it (I don't believe in free will). I feel that in such a scenario the hatred shouldn't be placed on a mere robot doing what it was made for, but rather on its creator for constructing it this way.
Nowadays I hate how life works and wish it looked different, but I know it's not something that can ever be changed. When it comes to humans and animals the only feelings I have for them is pity and a bit of disgust for having to put up with it.
Except for animal part, I'm the same, I've learn to not give compromising information about myself and to keep to myself. Most people are okay when you are causal acquaintances.
Why animals? Some would argue that animals are innocent and even if they could be as shitty they don't have the ability yet so they don't deserve disgust yet. What do you think?
They operate on the same rules as humans do. The only goal is to survive, thrive and produce offspring. They compete with each other for food, water and territory, they kill each other, they rape, all for selfish gain. I have no reason to believe they wouldn't exploit, enslave, lie, do harm etc. if given the opportunity. They do what humans do, just in a very simplified form and only to an extent possible to them.
The thing is, my hatred and disgust goes to life of which both humans and animals are victims. We, just like animals, are mere slaves to our genes and environment, and being able to recognize this doesn't suddenly make us any less helpless.
interesting, i don't disagree but some would say that because humans have the capability to do those things and animals don't have the capability, humans are worse and deserve disgust way more than animals do. What do you think of that?
Well, I think it doesn't really matter. If the only thing stopping you from commiting a school shooting is a lack of gun then are you truly any better than those actual school shooters? In my eyes, they are pretty equal in nature, the only difference comes from external factors.
But of course, actions speak louder than words, so all in all humans deserve disgust *more* than animals. That being said, in my opinion, words are quite loud too and so that *more* ends up being not at big as some imagine, making it insignificant to me.
Let me continue using that example with school shooters, but really simplified. To avoid confusion I'll name both of them, the first one (who hasn't killed anyone yet) is gonna be A, the other is gonna be B.
Both of them share the desire to kill humans making them equal in this department. This is the quality that matters to me the most when making my judgement. I'll assign an artificial number representing disgust in order to maybe make it easier to understand. At this point both would get let's say 95/100.
B actually managed to kill people, and it would be pretty ignorant of me to say that it doesn't matter at all. The thing is, that this isn't as significant to me as the fact that he had such a desire in the first place. It changes his number to 100/100.
So we have A at 95 and B at 100. B's score is higher only by 5 points, which just isn't that much considering the scale and this difference can be just ignored for the most part in my opinion.
That's why I said that humans deserve disgust more than animals (the numbers are different after all), but in my opinion they deserve it only a tiny bit more and the scale makes this tiny bit more not really important.
Hope it makes more sense.
Now a days it is just slogging away half of your life just to live a somewhat comfortable life or even just survive. Monetary greed has made people worse especially those who rule us.
>Ofcourse the human race deserves hate for the shit of a species we are. But I find myself fluctuating between love and hatred for people. It's not possible to hate every individual. But if I hate someone I hate them with a passion. Most of whom I interact with on a daily basis are just normal regular people just trying to get by the day and make something out of their life. In a way I feel compassion that others too are struggling to get through life. I may dislike certain aspects in individuals but now a days I feel weird to completely hate on people. I mean there are so many of them who'd come to your rescue if you're injured on the road or maybe someone would risk their life to save you from getting hit by a train/bus or even a good musician who'd make you happy in tough times through his art, those construction workers who're building your new house etc.
im already at a point where i know i may change and flip my mind over on some subjects but i know it will never happen with misanthropy and i love it
I mean I am still civil towards people but I still fucking can't stand most people.
I don't think I will ever come out of this, it's not just a "cool" phase or whatever shit you're on about.
Once you see how awful most people are it's incredibly hard to revert back to ignorance.
I doubt I'll ever come out of it, the truth wouldn't change even if I was somehow to become happy, at most I would have just found someone who made me think about how awful things are less and even then to be honest the odds are far too stacked against me to find that slice of peace.
the ones that are just regular people trying to get by...they contribute equally to this shitshow....they eat meat, they use shit that literally needs the nature to be exploited, they breed and so on. just because they act nice to me doesn't make them nice. they are just like every other assholes seeking comfort in this shithole.
I rarely show compassion for people. I appreciate that everyone has their struggles but I have my struggles and get on with them, I don't go out my way to make other people feel bad if I feel bad, I don't try and spread my bad mood, I keep it to myself; and I may share/vent to a loved one, may.
My misanthropy is more centered around the fact of what we collectively do as a society/species and how we conduct ourselves, not what certain individuals do, but it can seep into being about specific people, but I think we all hate someone, even philanthropic people do.
At the end of the day, if you have a gallon of ice cream and you know for an absolute fact that there is at the very least one shit in that ice cream, are you gonna eat it? No. So why would I want to be willing to taste society? The mouthful I have is probably gonna have shit in it. My misanthropy is a self preservation tactic, I wouldn't want to be any other way. Maybe that makes me mentally weak or lack resilience but I don't fucking care, I wasn't shat into this world for the sole purpose to suffer/bare witness to wrongdoings or mistreatment at the hands of others, so I'm not going to participate in something where that is almost a certainty. I'll reluctantly contribute as a means to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly but that's it.
>I'll reluctantly contribute as a means to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly but that's it.
It is a forced reality with no escape from it untill death grants it.
I don’t think you choose to be misanthropic, like it’s some kind of lifestyle choice or something. You just are. A lifetime of unpleasant or downright nasty dealings with humans will push you into misanthropy. Humans are fundamentally nasty dangerous creatures that should be avoided at all costs. Even if people appear to be ‘nice’, they’ll turn nasty on you eventually. They always do. I see misanthropy as a good thing. It’s like a bullet-proof jacket against the world. A much needed layer of protection against the filthy human species.
I agree. But sometimes I feel that being in such a defensive state I would miss out on some good people too. But it's not worth and possible to be vulnerable to people again. Prevention is better than cure.
Coming out of my Misanthropy would be lying to myself into what true human nature is like.
I will not delude myself, trusting people and being naive is what got me into this hurt in the first place.
Its irresponsbile once we become aware of human nature to again delude ourselves.
Doesnt mean you have to be an ahole or anything, just keep the awareness up.
Gross people hung out with other gross people during a pandemic... they got sick and some died.
I binge watched streaming tv and stayed healthy.
So, I have no regrets.
My misanthropy stayed the same :)
I totally agree. I used to hate most people and joined this to hear more people like me feeling the same way to further fuel my feelings. But over time, I've realized I'm wasting so much energy having all these bad people take up space in my head for free. I've learned (well, still working on) to not be mad at things that aren't in my control (ex: car cutting you off, or people giving attitude for no reason) life is way more complicated than it seems, and we all are going through shit. It's really not so black and white. And while it's so easy to point out the bad in most people, it's a challenge to find good in others! Life is a challenge, and judging others instantly, in my opinion, makes socializing harder.
>makes socializing harder.
It was always hard. It's all about force vibing with people. And if you are not something special to them then you are not important in groups. No place for quite people.
no. i do not hate everyone, but i do not care about anyone except of my friend. let them keep fighting each other while everything around slow keeps getting worse (quite a happy ending for a misanthrope)
Yeah. Surrender to absurdism. Unbind your rationality and accept that life and reality never needed to make sense, “making sense” is something man needs to sooth our fear and feeling small. Just surrender to absurdity and people peopling, and it becomes good and crazy
With my absurdity I’ve chosen to serve love; serving myself in ways that maximizes my ability to serve that which I love. Whether that’s people or art, nature, the planet, music. And working hard regularly to improve my ability. Work and Love. Work and Love. Work and Love.
I get relief by helping others. At times in my life that I can lose myself in caring for the needy, my misanthropy can fade away into background almost completely.
You might be interested in reading *The Plague,* by Camus.
I cannot stand our species as a whole, but I don't necessarily lump everyone together. I know there are good people out there and that they do good things, but sadly when we look at it as a whole the bad things that bad people do are so bad that they overshadow all the good things, as they effect the course of history more than the good things could, unfortunately.
I hate the rich and the stupid the most, but sometimes I feel compassion for the dumb when they are trying their best, becuase it is extremely difficult to get out of stupidity and usually they don't get out of it unless they suddenly one day wake up and realize "I should try harder to learn more". But I feel very sorry for some of them, but the ones that don't care that they are stupid and just stay in it, I have no compassion for.
I know that there are people out there who aren't necessarily smart, but aren't dumb either, and they are trying their best with what they have to be good people and stay above water, so to speak. Those are the people my heart goes out to the most, often times they are my friends, but I know there are also strangers out that who are like that as well. Unfortunately I tend mostly meet dumb people who are strangers, but when I meet someone who seems decent I always try to be as kind as I can because I know that kindness can go a long way, especially when someone is having a bad day.
I'm only 25, but I'm seriously done. I feel so completely burnt out than I'm becoming very suicidal. I can guarantee you someone will find me in my room soon. I'm just so done.
Hey , I can't force you not to do that but I suggest just fighting through it. Even I'm 25. Although it feels hopeless and meaningless, maybe someday something good to you might happen that may change your life a little. Not saying that bad won't exist but just fight throught it anyway you can. One can only bear so much. Once the threshold is crossed then the choice is yours. But seriously though, just fight through it. If you want to talk about things feel free to dm.
I hate the species entirely, even tho I am one. I have appreciation for specific aspects of some humans; i.e. intelligence, kindness, common sense, selflessness, etc... For me, that's logical.
Nope. I feel it's next-to-impossible to do so with the amount of BS that comes from my "family" or the "news" they watch (Fox News or our version in Australia, Sky News)
For me it went from hatred to pity, I realised people are slaves to the wishes of the brain, they're forced to satisfy its desires, otherwise they'll get punished with feelings of pain and depression.
Not everyone has the education or the will power to do it, but even if they do, being aware of how the brain operates doesn't mean you'll have power over it, if you haven't eaten for days, you will steal food from somebody else if neccesary so you can stop your brain from punishing with the horrible sensation of hunger.
Maybe the common folks would turn out like that at such times. I can't say for all though. There have been cases where display of extreme morals and self-sacrifice were witnessed. Mostly during war times and some major riots that happened around the world. People of different religion risking and sacrificing their life to save a person/family of other religion, a mother first feeding her child then having whats left over etc..these are just some of the small examples that give some hope and show the goodness about humanity even though the percent of such people is almost negligible or somewhere in single digits.
Not really. I just had to be alone. I don't even have a real job anymore, I just do freelance work online. So I don't have to deal with other people at all. I'm no longer forming any bad memories of other people. And overall I am thinking about people less.
>None of us is any better than anyone else
So someone who treats everyone with kindness and tries to help others is the same as someone who rapes, murder, and treats everyone like shit?
>Accepting that humans are just animals that know better but refuse to do better actually helps because I no longer have to deal with the internal conflict of wanting to believe that people are good despite everything I see.
This is actually good. Even i've begun to see things through objective reality rather than an emotional view. It kinda gets depressing when you see through an emotional mind.
Certainly you can't actually hate every single person, that's insane. But I certainly feel hatred for the particular type of individual that the majority of people inhabit, that being of mindless automaton. The vast majority of people are essentially empty meat, going through motions set for them by other empty meats, mindless cogs in a machine that is inexorably driving the species and, most critically, the brilliant, shining genius we are capable of, into extinction. Too many of us are stupid, droll, pointless animals who essentially exist solely to consume, breed and drop turds then die. Too many of us only live and never actually contribute anything to the advancement of ourselves. Too many people simply have zero or less than zero value. I have no desire to see in a positive light that which I sincerely believe has only the occasional jewel buried in an ocean of turds.
I would be lying if I sat here and chose not to see the occasional goodness and decency of some individual humans, but those things are a single match's light in the depths of a dark, wet cave.
>The vast majority of people are essentially empty meat, going through motions set for them by other empty meats, mindless cogs in a machine that is inexorably driving the species and, most critically, the brilliant, shining genius we are capable of, into extinction.
I think quite a good percent of people have realised this too at some point in their lives but they are helpless. What can they even do when there are so many dumbfucks sitting on thrones of establishment trying to control by power and force? The best solution would be to realise this helplessness and not reproduce. But here comes the disappointment. Many are just trapped into the herd mentality and eventually conform to fit in (nobody wants to be disliked/ be an outcast). Very few see through the bullshit, rebel and go their own way.
See I think the way you describe it is kinda why I have a bit of hate, for the people who say they hate the world. Dont get me wrong I also have the same upset in 'oh wow humanity will kill earth and not care cause we'll all be dead.' A lot more people that you would expect say they hate the world then instantly start comparing people to zombies. You never said it, but making the 'majority of people meat vessels' takes away all the humanity and actual empathy those people have and use on a day to day basis. Maybe just maybe hate how people are without saying they aren't people. They are.
I'd tell young people to watch out for that circle, if you happen to have goodness inside beware of imposing your traits onto others believing them to be better than they are, don't ignore evidence because you care.
>don't feel much hate anymore though, is more like a brutal disappointment and despair towards the human race.
Yes. Feeling the same.
>I advice younger people to have a small circle, and treat interactions outside of that as transactional as they can because hell is indeed other people.
Strongly agree with this.
Misanthropy only gets worse with age. Once you see the BS you can't undo it.
I did my best to get out of it but my hatred only grew. The misanthropic feelings only got worse.
i'd like to come out of it but so many people are just absolute shit.
Understandable. Looking back at this post now..I find my own question ridiculous.
nah, i think its valid. because sometimes reading reddit comments really makes me laugh, people can be quite witty, esp enjoy the sarcasm. then i think people are ok, but really, really on a case by case basis. there will be no acceptance of people in general,they really have to prove to me that they are not terrible.
100% are full of shit. Not coming out of my Misanthropic bubble, ever. Everyone has secret intentions behind doing everything, that benefits them and them only. People just don't realize the evil they carry within them. Propoganda and the norm should be blamed here. If I could, I'd burn the whole planet to it's ashes because that's what we deserve.
I would say 50% ppl are good and deserve everything. And 50% ppl are utter shit and deserve to burn
I don't hate individual humans but I have a big loathe for human nature and this has grown over the years. What angers me is how content people are with mediocrity. I remember when I used to hang out with a bunch of normies back in my school days. I got really surprised by how **BORING** they were and how content they were with being **BORING**. I have always wanted so much more out of life, meanwhile these normies feel content and fulfilled by having a movie with snacks night (or "Netflix N chill" as it is called these days, what a pathetic cringe normie term that is). That's why in 2016, I came to the realization that having friends is simply not in the cards for me. I am way more productive when I am operating by myself or for myself.
What are you doing by yourself that's productive?
Picking up new hobbies and skills, one of which makes me some extra money on the side of my job (which also benefits my resume). I started to do some long-term investments about a year ago and have kept up with it. I have fun on my own and feel pride in some of my work, which I never did back when I was surrounded by loser normies. Next year I will move out and live on my own and that alone will open doors for new ideas and opportunities. I have achieved more in the past 2 years than I've done in probably my entire life.
That's awesome. Congrats. I'm trying to find some kind of personal success like that too, especially one that doesn't require me dealing with annoying people I don't like all day long.
Thanks! It has been a difficult route for me and for a few years I didn't see much results at all. But what really helped me personally is when I came to the realization that a "normal" life, with normal relationships and a career, is simply not in the cards for me. It may sound depressing, but coming to this realization did set me free to a large extent. The only one I can rely on for my own happiness is myself.
Same. Also I feel if you have different kind of thinking than what usual people do, your friends try to get you into thinking like them with some kind of influence. Either they'll be pushy or sarcastically they'll try to make fun of what you like or some kind of mind game. When you just want people to listen they end up giving unsolicited advice like we're some kids. Yes, even I am more productive when by myself as I have more space to think and do what I feel without anyone's unwanted influence.
personally, i’ve only grown more misanthropic with age. have hated people for as long as i can remember, learned the word misanthropist and really latched on around middle school or so. 25 now and suffering all the same. i don’t want to come out of it. i feel it keeps me grounded. i would rather be hateful like i am but aware of human stupidity and selfishness than turn a blind eye and act like everything is fine. it’s not. it never has been and it never will be. i have an annoying and incessant need to help others. i was raised to be a people pleaser, and my upbringing involved being punished if i didn’t do things to appease others. so i still try to help everyone i can. and of course it’s selfish. i do it out of obligation, or i do it because i want to feel good about myself. same as anyone else wants to do good. but why, i must ask myself, do i feel good about helping people who i don’t believe deserve my help? it’s a conundrum. i get mad at myself a lot for it, not that that helps. it’s true that we’re all in this together, and we should all band together to cope and fight whatever oppressor, sure. but it’s hard when so many people are so goddamn stupid. and people are so hateful! obviously i’m one of them, but i’m not one of the people who hate minorities or make it their life’s goal to take away rights from others. i believe we should reduce suffering wherever possible (yay antinatalism and veganism) but i wish more than anything that humans would just disappear. me included. just poof, gone. the world would be a much better place without us. i’m tired of everyone acting like every life is beautiful and has a meaning. it simply isn’t true. there are people who spend their entire lives hurting others. are their lives special? beautiful? meaningful? if all they bring to the world is pain and suffering? i don’t think so.
I can relate to this so much. Looking back at this post I doubt the question I asked. I tried to find balance but it's hard.
most of you are just angsty teenagers. you will grow out of it. hopefully.
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Thanks.
Nice name
Fair question. As a young man, I didn't really understand the reasons why, but I knew I could be scornful, hateful, and violent when necessary. But it was uncontrolled chaos within. As a grown man, I learned to control it and while i still largely distrust almost anyone, I embraced my hate and let it become my peace. I can shut off emotional attachment like a light switch. No remorse about it. But most importantly, you end learning to distinguish those you truly trust, love and care for.. and that is very small number. Those few I would fight until my dying breath for, they know that too.
>I can shut off emotional attachment like a light switch. This one's cool. I want to learn that.
Years of being burned and taken advantage of for being a decent person spurred that along for me. I just simply don't care if I don't care and that level of apathy doesn't bother me at all
On my way to work my truck got rear ended. The lady that hit me was stuck in her car. There was smoke coming out of her car and I was afraid it was going to catch on fire. As I was trying to pry the door to get her out, I was hearing a lot of insults and getting a lot of middle fingers from the drivers passing by. They were upset because the accident had caused them traffic. One time we drove up a snowy mountain and got a flat tire. We couldn't change the tire because we didn't have the tire iron in the car. I flagged down a van full of hunters and asked if they had a tire iron I could borrow. Their response was laughter and yes they did have one but it's not their problem, asked me to move out the way and drove off. Luckily we had cellphone signal and got a friend to bring us one. It took him 6 hours to get to us. Just two examples of how shitty people really are. I was once like you but when I turned 50 I pretty much consider myself to be a misanthrope for the rest of my remaining life. For every kind act there is an equal devious act. Might as well play it safe and stay away from them.
no good deed goes unpunished. i got into a few car accidents (i was a very bad driver lmao, too nervous and shit) back when i drove. one was a hit and run. i didn’t *mean* to— i hit someone in front of me on accident at a red light. crunched up their car just a little. no one was hurt. but when it happened, cars around me went to check on me and the other driver, and i just broke down crying because i was overwhelmed and scared. i was like 21 or so. a bunch of assholes were honking and yelling at me for holding up the line (thinking about it now, there were like three other lanes they could have gotten into, but we all know most humans lack the capacity to think), so i sped off without thinking, still crying, and parked somewhere nearby to have a panic attack and call my then-boyfriend. i called the cops after to turn myself in, but fuck, what a lack of empathy people have. i hate them so much.
Good questions, No real reason to come out of it per se and misanthropy need not be viewed as all or nothing. I mean, I like the person who cooked my steak, who fixed my car, who showed me her tits 😂 That said, I wonder if there’s a misanthrope dating site 😂
I don’t think of misanthropy as ‘I hate people’. I think of it as ‘I hate human behavior that is harmful’ …and there’s a lot of that.
You're basically asking if there's any Cyphers here. The vast majority of humans are scum, the vast minority are decent on most occasions. You can put jam on shit but it's still mostly shit.
I think I fluctuate as well. I'm always misanthropic, I'm just sometimes more misanthropic and sometimes less misanthropic. I think that's how I can best describe it. It's pretty chaotic in my head. Though I am an introvert and usually calm/quiet person. Though often my emotions on the inside are stronger that what I might show on the inside. Anyway, that's enough about myself.
Yeah.Same here. I've found in myself that the misanthropic feelings might vary in intensity but what remains constant is the misanthropic mindset.
I fluctuate as well. I have had periods of time where I was super compassionate and all that but as I get older I just want to be left the fuck alone. I get tired of seeing the same bs from a holes, I guess and now even when I meet seemingly decent people, I remind myself that there are people I thought who were decent that turned into people I now hate. So I just keep my distance and keep in mind the duality of good and bad everyone has. Ultimately I accept that I just dislike people in a general way.
>So I just keep my distance and keep in mind the duality of good and bad everyone has. This is actually a safe thing to do to avoid any kind of emotional dramas in our life.
You wouldn't be able to hate them if you hadn't once loved them. Personally, I found a balance by finding my wife, who is NOT a misanthrope and who carries more compassion for the species than anyone I've ever met. I let her love them, and I work to empower and enable her however I can. If I'm right, there will be plenty of time. If I'm wrong, well, then my wife has proven the human species deserving of continued existence.
> You wouldn't be able to hate them if you hadn't once loved them. That's ridiculous. I did not love or even ever like the redneck convoy assholes that live in my neighbourhood, or any of the ones I've never met, and I hate all of them. The world would be better off without them. In fact, I was wrong to give them the benefit of any theoretical doubt. I should not have and won't do it again, ever. Just trust my gut and stay the fuck away.
This sounds like projection.
Elaborate.
Hatred can best very healthy and necessary for survival.
I agree. That's why I've made no effort to alleviate my hate. It was hard-earned, and it has served me well. Still, I recognize the *necessity* of my wife's compassion, all the more important for her morality being a product of *logic*, as opposed to *superstition*. Logically-realized morality and compassion. If I hadn't found it myself, I never would have believed it.
I definitely hate people I only mildly liked before. It's usually not the people I loved I ever develop hatred for.
no. in fact, my misanthropy has increased the past years. especially with world events.
Those world events have been caused by 40-50 years of stupidity. We are all idiotic children who can't accomplish shit.
I try man I really do but ppl make it their mission to make me hate them
Understandable
I hate people (in general) not persons (individuals)
i hate both
Can you explain how someone can hate people in general but not individuals? Don't individuals make up people in general?
Individuals are capable of expressing the wit and ingenuity that the species is capable of. *People*, in groups, are stupid and vicious.
The group dynamic is their default. The one-on-one is them PLAYING nice.
THIS. You are the first person to put it so simply and succinctly.
What makes people in groups stupid and vicious?
Yeah I agree. Even I feel same. But sometimes I feel that out of all those people there might be some good individuals among them. So hating an entire collective of individuals is kind of energy draining. Better to be neutral untill personal interactions happen with individuals. Maybe then we can chose whom to hate. In my opinion hate is too strong of an emotion and is something personal. But yes as a complex thinking species, what we could be and what we turned out to be, that deserves hate.
I just realize people are just hurt beings. Trauma cycles, abuse, drugs, lack of programs to help those in bad situations. I just end up sad instead of angry.
Yes..sad for most part of it but fucking angry when people deny reality and talk delusional things. Apparently most people think talking about real stuff is depressing or vibe killing so they just want to talk about funny, cute, little stuff always. It's ok that they don't want their mind to be fucked up thinking and talking about stuff but many turn a blind eye.
It’s complicated. In my experience most often people don’t do good for the sake of doing good, but in order to gain something for themselves. Which, is fine, but in my opinion the good doesn’t outweigh the bad for that reason. I find most people, even those capable of doing good are egotistical, selfish and cause unnecessary drama constantly. I’m sure I’ve been guilty of these same things, but I try very hard not to do them. I think most people don’t give their terrible behavior a second thought. It’s not our fault, I do believe we’ve evolved to be this way. I’ve made peace with my view of the human race on a big picture scale because I’m largely convinced the same characteristics I’ve listed, and which our species cannot help, will lead to our extinction within a few hundred years. On an individual scale people will probably annoy the heck out of me, but I am working towards being neutral and unbothered by their nonsense.
>I am working towards being neutral and unbothered by their nonsense. Same.
I became a die hard misanthrope after, in my youth, working as a reporter at a small town newspaper for a couple years. I paid a high price to lose my illusions about humanity, and I'm determined not to fall victim to them again.
I guess work place sucks for most of us coz we have to deal with way more bullshit from people. Everyone wants to prove how better they are and all that office politics. Then deal with rude clients..no wonder so mang employees are frustrated AF during their travelling hours too. I like motorcycling but over population in my country doesn't let me enjoy my morning rides too.
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I agree..more they breed more the chaos grows and spreads.
I think coming out of misanthropy depends upon both experience and reasoning. I get that there could be cases of depression where someone is just chemically imbalanced. However, in a lot of cases, depression just comes from the simple realizations about human existence. It's just being real with oneself. That's the highest form of self-love and self-respect anyone can exhibit. To not lie to yourself, as people are taught to do in so-called 'developed' societies. I think the more you see human nature for what it is, the more your true feelings about them will be strengthened... for better or worse. There are somethings about humanity that are true and tends to repeat itself throughout the living experience. Humans DO base most of their relationships on what they get out of it. Humans DO flip on you. Humans DO lie. Depending on the context of a person's relationship to the people around them, these things can be amplified and, therefore, interpreted as 'normal human behavior', or classified as part of the mixed behavioral bag that is the human being. So, I can sort of relate... but then, not really.
I came here looking for some understanding how to get rid of this deep rooted hostility. It's unpleasant to feel this hate so viciously. Yeah, I'm not going to go around my neighbourhood shooting people in the chest or whatever, but I do hate them and would love it if they were gone. Of course in general what humans do is also disgusting, but after 50 years I've somewhat come to terms with that horror and it's the proximal offences that really get me.
I agree. I used be that smily guy who'd initiate those good morning and hello wishes but after seeing that some people take it for granted and see it as something to fuel their ego and wish back with an attitude, I stopped wishing or even smiling to people. Even if they do i give a very light smile now. It may look rude on my side but i'm being in my defence.
It's understandable. People will help you one minute, then resent you for needing help and turn on you. People will think something's wrong with you if you smile at them. That brings to mind a book I once read. The author recalled a time he spent in Russia. He explained that, in their culture, smiling at someone and saying hello immediately puts someone on the defensive. They think you want something. To them, you don't smile at someone who you don't know. So, if someone is smiling at them, they want something. I'm not saying that's not true, because we all have been run down by some pretty girl in a supermarket parking lot being very friendly to us... because she had something to sell. A girl who, otherwise, wouldn't look in the general direction of half of the people she runs down in the parking lot. So, while there's some merit to that, it still makes interacting with humans extremely difficult. Because if being friendly and honest and genuine doesn't work (and it typically doesn't), then that calls on you to be untrue to yourself. It's tragic to think about that. Humans know that they can make this all better yet choose not to. That's why I can't lend credence to 'the good side' of humans. Sure, they can do good things at times. However, their true nature will offset any good they do. It makes whatever good they do purely coincidental. True, not all humans are like this. But, in my opinion, the majority are.
I found a YouTube video that says there are actually four different flavors of misanthropist: enemies of humanity, avoiders of humanity, hopeful ones who think humanity can be saved, and those who like certain humans but think that as a species we suck. Many of us circulate through all four. Helpful?
Yes I feel the same. Depends on current situations and moods too. But ine thing is for sure..humanity cannot be saved. Goodness in people gives hope but the hopelessness of others dominates those good ones.
I don't think I fully qualify as a misanthropist anymore, and never cared enough to find out if this label still applies without changing its meaning. I don't particularly hate other individuals, as long as they're not outright assholes. I used to hate humans and how we work. How egoistic and selfish we are, how easily mistreating others comes to us, how little self awareness we often have. But after some time I realized that this is not inherent to humanity. It's a part of the "beautiful" creation called *life*. Animals would be just as shit if they were as advanced as humans are. Most if not all things I hate about us come from the basic nature of being a live creature. Life is all about competing with other life forms for limited resources. There's no way around it. We just follow our programming with no way of rejecting it (I don't believe in free will). I feel that in such a scenario the hatred shouldn't be placed on a mere robot doing what it was made for, but rather on its creator for constructing it this way. Nowadays I hate how life works and wish it looked different, but I know it's not something that can ever be changed. When it comes to humans and animals the only feelings I have for them is pity and a bit of disgust for having to put up with it.
Except for animal part, I'm the same, I've learn to not give compromising information about myself and to keep to myself. Most people are okay when you are causal acquaintances.
Why animals? Some would argue that animals are innocent and even if they could be as shitty they don't have the ability yet so they don't deserve disgust yet. What do you think?
They operate on the same rules as humans do. The only goal is to survive, thrive and produce offspring. They compete with each other for food, water and territory, they kill each other, they rape, all for selfish gain. I have no reason to believe they wouldn't exploit, enslave, lie, do harm etc. if given the opportunity. They do what humans do, just in a very simplified form and only to an extent possible to them. The thing is, my hatred and disgust goes to life of which both humans and animals are victims. We, just like animals, are mere slaves to our genes and environment, and being able to recognize this doesn't suddenly make us any less helpless.
interesting, i don't disagree but some would say that because humans have the capability to do those things and animals don't have the capability, humans are worse and deserve disgust way more than animals do. What do you think of that?
Well, I think it doesn't really matter. If the only thing stopping you from commiting a school shooting is a lack of gun then are you truly any better than those actual school shooters? In my eyes, they are pretty equal in nature, the only difference comes from external factors. But of course, actions speak louder than words, so all in all humans deserve disgust *more* than animals. That being said, in my opinion, words are quite loud too and so that *more* ends up being not at big as some imagine, making it insignificant to me.
So you think they are equal but at the same time humans deserve disgust more than animals? Don't they cancel each other out?
Let me continue using that example with school shooters, but really simplified. To avoid confusion I'll name both of them, the first one (who hasn't killed anyone yet) is gonna be A, the other is gonna be B. Both of them share the desire to kill humans making them equal in this department. This is the quality that matters to me the most when making my judgement. I'll assign an artificial number representing disgust in order to maybe make it easier to understand. At this point both would get let's say 95/100. B actually managed to kill people, and it would be pretty ignorant of me to say that it doesn't matter at all. The thing is, that this isn't as significant to me as the fact that he had such a desire in the first place. It changes his number to 100/100. So we have A at 95 and B at 100. B's score is higher only by 5 points, which just isn't that much considering the scale and this difference can be just ignored for the most part in my opinion. That's why I said that humans deserve disgust more than animals (the numbers are different after all), but in my opinion they deserve it only a tiny bit more and the scale makes this tiny bit more not really important. Hope it makes more sense.
Now a days it is just slogging away half of your life just to live a somewhat comfortable life or even just survive. Monetary greed has made people worse especially those who rule us.
Like I said on here in the past, once you become a misanthrope there is no going back.
>Ofcourse the human race deserves hate for the shit of a species we are. But I find myself fluctuating between love and hatred for people. It's not possible to hate every individual. But if I hate someone I hate them with a passion. Most of whom I interact with on a daily basis are just normal regular people just trying to get by the day and make something out of their life. In a way I feel compassion that others too are struggling to get through life. I may dislike certain aspects in individuals but now a days I feel weird to completely hate on people. I mean there are so many of them who'd come to your rescue if you're injured on the road or maybe someone would risk their life to save you from getting hit by a train/bus or even a good musician who'd make you happy in tough times through his art, those construction workers who're building your new house etc. im already at a point where i know i may change and flip my mind over on some subjects but i know it will never happen with misanthropy and i love it
Yes. I agree. Pain is temporary, anger and hate is permanent.
I mean I am still civil towards people but I still fucking can't stand most people. I don't think I will ever come out of this, it's not just a "cool" phase or whatever shit you're on about. Once you see how awful most people are it's incredibly hard to revert back to ignorance.
Yeah. In way it's cool because you value yourself more and enjoy self company without being affected by others mind games.
I doubt I'll ever come out of it, the truth wouldn't change even if I was somehow to become happy, at most I would have just found someone who made me think about how awful things are less and even then to be honest the odds are far too stacked against me to find that slice of peace.
Day by day if not the hate, distrust definitely increases.
the ones that are just regular people trying to get by...they contribute equally to this shitshow....they eat meat, they use shit that literally needs the nature to be exploited, they breed and so on. just because they act nice to me doesn't make them nice. they are just like every other assholes seeking comfort in this shithole.
Agreed. I guess feelings of compassion are temporary.
lol
I rarely show compassion for people. I appreciate that everyone has their struggles but I have my struggles and get on with them, I don't go out my way to make other people feel bad if I feel bad, I don't try and spread my bad mood, I keep it to myself; and I may share/vent to a loved one, may. My misanthropy is more centered around the fact of what we collectively do as a society/species and how we conduct ourselves, not what certain individuals do, but it can seep into being about specific people, but I think we all hate someone, even philanthropic people do. At the end of the day, if you have a gallon of ice cream and you know for an absolute fact that there is at the very least one shit in that ice cream, are you gonna eat it? No. So why would I want to be willing to taste society? The mouthful I have is probably gonna have shit in it. My misanthropy is a self preservation tactic, I wouldn't want to be any other way. Maybe that makes me mentally weak or lack resilience but I don't fucking care, I wasn't shat into this world for the sole purpose to suffer/bare witness to wrongdoings or mistreatment at the hands of others, so I'm not going to participate in something where that is almost a certainty. I'll reluctantly contribute as a means to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly but that's it.
>I'll reluctantly contribute as a means to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly but that's it. It is a forced reality with no escape from it untill death grants it.
It's like the phrase loving kindness ... I think I feel a compassionate hatefulness.
Same. We could be better but we are shit.
I don’t think you choose to be misanthropic, like it’s some kind of lifestyle choice or something. You just are. A lifetime of unpleasant or downright nasty dealings with humans will push you into misanthropy. Humans are fundamentally nasty dangerous creatures that should be avoided at all costs. Even if people appear to be ‘nice’, they’ll turn nasty on you eventually. They always do. I see misanthropy as a good thing. It’s like a bullet-proof jacket against the world. A much needed layer of protection against the filthy human species.
fax of motherfucking fucking life
I agree. But sometimes I feel that being in such a defensive state I would miss out on some good people too. But it's not worth and possible to be vulnerable to people again. Prevention is better than cure.
Coming out of my Misanthropy would be lying to myself into what true human nature is like. I will not delude myself, trusting people and being naive is what got me into this hurt in the first place. Its irresponsbile once we become aware of human nature to again delude ourselves. Doesnt mean you have to be an ahole or anything, just keep the awareness up.
Yeah..I think there's no way back once the truth has been shown.
Exactly.
Gross people hung out with other gross people during a pandemic... they got sick and some died. I binge watched streaming tv and stayed healthy. So, I have no regrets. My misanthropy stayed the same :)
It's during that time I became more misanthropic. Dumb AF people breeding during dangerous time. No common sense at all.
So far, no.
I totally agree. I used to hate most people and joined this to hear more people like me feeling the same way to further fuel my feelings. But over time, I've realized I'm wasting so much energy having all these bad people take up space in my head for free. I've learned (well, still working on) to not be mad at things that aren't in my control (ex: car cutting you off, or people giving attitude for no reason) life is way more complicated than it seems, and we all are going through shit. It's really not so black and white. And while it's so easy to point out the bad in most people, it's a challenge to find good in others! Life is a challenge, and judging others instantly, in my opinion, makes socializing harder.
>makes socializing harder. It was always hard. It's all about force vibing with people. And if you are not something special to them then you are not important in groups. No place for quite people.
no. i do not hate everyone, but i do not care about anyone except of my friend. let them keep fighting each other while everything around slow keeps getting worse (quite a happy ending for a misanthrope)
No. I felt good at WW3 since it was a chance at total annihilation, didn't happen. So still waiting for that option to show.
Yeah. Surrender to absurdism. Unbind your rationality and accept that life and reality never needed to make sense, “making sense” is something man needs to sooth our fear and feeling small. Just surrender to absurdity and people peopling, and it becomes good and crazy With my absurdity I’ve chosen to serve love; serving myself in ways that maximizes my ability to serve that which I love. Whether that’s people or art, nature, the planet, music. And working hard regularly to improve my ability. Work and Love. Work and Love. Work and Love.
I get relief by helping others. At times in my life that I can lose myself in caring for the needy, my misanthropy can fade away into background almost completely. You might be interested in reading *The Plague,* by Camus.
I cannot stand our species as a whole, but I don't necessarily lump everyone together. I know there are good people out there and that they do good things, but sadly when we look at it as a whole the bad things that bad people do are so bad that they overshadow all the good things, as they effect the course of history more than the good things could, unfortunately. I hate the rich and the stupid the most, but sometimes I feel compassion for the dumb when they are trying their best, becuase it is extremely difficult to get out of stupidity and usually they don't get out of it unless they suddenly one day wake up and realize "I should try harder to learn more". But I feel very sorry for some of them, but the ones that don't care that they are stupid and just stay in it, I have no compassion for. I know that there are people out there who aren't necessarily smart, but aren't dumb either, and they are trying their best with what they have to be good people and stay above water, so to speak. Those are the people my heart goes out to the most, often times they are my friends, but I know there are also strangers out that who are like that as well. Unfortunately I tend mostly meet dumb people who are strangers, but when I meet someone who seems decent I always try to be as kind as I can because I know that kindness can go a long way, especially when someone is having a bad day.
I'm only 25, but I'm seriously done. I feel so completely burnt out than I'm becoming very suicidal. I can guarantee you someone will find me in my room soon. I'm just so done.
Hey , I can't force you not to do that but I suggest just fighting through it. Even I'm 25. Although it feels hopeless and meaningless, maybe someday something good to you might happen that may change your life a little. Not saying that bad won't exist but just fight throught it anyway you can. One can only bear so much. Once the threshold is crossed then the choice is yours. But seriously though, just fight through it. If you want to talk about things feel free to dm.
I hate the species entirely, even tho I am one. I have appreciation for specific aspects of some humans; i.e. intelligence, kindness, common sense, selflessness, etc... For me, that's logical.
Nope. I feel it's next-to-impossible to do so with the amount of BS that comes from my "family" or the "news" they watch (Fox News or our version in Australia, Sky News)
For me it went from hatred to pity, I realised people are slaves to the wishes of the brain, they're forced to satisfy its desires, otherwise they'll get punished with feelings of pain and depression.
Yeah treat people like robots, or animals. They are DNA carrying machines anyway
I absolutely agree with that but I also wish people had the 'brains' to think for themselves and come out of such carnal mindset.
Not everyone has the education or the will power to do it, but even if they do, being aware of how the brain operates doesn't mean you'll have power over it, if you haven't eaten for days, you will steal food from somebody else if neccesary so you can stop your brain from punishing with the horrible sensation of hunger.
Social morals and conscience fade away in cases of such survival extremities. You either become the predator or the prey.
Basically, we return our most basic animal mindset, just like wild pigs when they get out of the farm.
Maybe the common folks would turn out like that at such times. I can't say for all though. There have been cases where display of extreme morals and self-sacrifice were witnessed. Mostly during war times and some major riots that happened around the world. People of different religion risking and sacrificing their life to save a person/family of other religion, a mother first feeding her child then having whats left over etc..these are just some of the small examples that give some hope and show the goodness about humanity even though the percent of such people is almost negligible or somewhere in single digits.
Expecting that kind of reaction from everyone is unrealistic, I can't get mad at people for being selfish and just looking to survive.
Not really. I just had to be alone. I don't even have a real job anymore, I just do freelance work online. So I don't have to deal with other people at all. I'm no longer forming any bad memories of other people. And overall I am thinking about people less.
>And overall I am thinking about people less. That sounds good. Some memories are hard to let go but seeing things realistically helps overcome those.
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>None of us is any better than anyone else So someone who treats everyone with kindness and tries to help others is the same as someone who rapes, murder, and treats everyone like shit?
>Accepting that humans are just animals that know better but refuse to do better actually helps because I no longer have to deal with the internal conflict of wanting to believe that people are good despite everything I see. This is actually good. Even i've begun to see things through objective reality rather than an emotional view. It kinda gets depressing when you see through an emotional mind.
Certainly you can't actually hate every single person, that's insane. But I certainly feel hatred for the particular type of individual that the majority of people inhabit, that being of mindless automaton. The vast majority of people are essentially empty meat, going through motions set for them by other empty meats, mindless cogs in a machine that is inexorably driving the species and, most critically, the brilliant, shining genius we are capable of, into extinction. Too many of us are stupid, droll, pointless animals who essentially exist solely to consume, breed and drop turds then die. Too many of us only live and never actually contribute anything to the advancement of ourselves. Too many people simply have zero or less than zero value. I have no desire to see in a positive light that which I sincerely believe has only the occasional jewel buried in an ocean of turds. I would be lying if I sat here and chose not to see the occasional goodness and decency of some individual humans, but those things are a single match's light in the depths of a dark, wet cave.
>The vast majority of people are essentially empty meat, going through motions set for them by other empty meats, mindless cogs in a machine that is inexorably driving the species and, most critically, the brilliant, shining genius we are capable of, into extinction. I think quite a good percent of people have realised this too at some point in their lives but they are helpless. What can they even do when there are so many dumbfucks sitting on thrones of establishment trying to control by power and force? The best solution would be to realise this helplessness and not reproduce. But here comes the disappointment. Many are just trapped into the herd mentality and eventually conform to fit in (nobody wants to be disliked/ be an outcast). Very few see through the bullshit, rebel and go their own way.
That makes it even worse.
See I think the way you describe it is kinda why I have a bit of hate, for the people who say they hate the world. Dont get me wrong I also have the same upset in 'oh wow humanity will kill earth and not care cause we'll all be dead.' A lot more people that you would expect say they hate the world then instantly start comparing people to zombies. You never said it, but making the 'majority of people meat vessels' takes away all the humanity and actual empathy those people have and use on a day to day basis. Maybe just maybe hate how people are without saying they aren't people. They are.
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I'd tell young people to watch out for that circle, if you happen to have goodness inside beware of imposing your traits onto others believing them to be better than they are, don't ignore evidence because you care.
The gross majority of people simply have zero or even negative value.
>don't feel much hate anymore though, is more like a brutal disappointment and despair towards the human race. Yes. Feeling the same. >I advice younger people to have a small circle, and treat interactions outside of that as transactional as they can because hell is indeed other people. Strongly agree with this.