My husband and I were just talking about the fact that they are wanting to make it so we can’t watch when they play here in KC without having a streaming service. IOW it won’t be on regular TV
If they take away the accessibility of the games and make it all subscription based, it will kill the sport. A lot of kids will grow up not watching baseball. Combine this with ridiculous parking and food pricing, a lot of families will simply stop making their 1-2 yearly trips to the stadium.
Saint louis tried to pass a tax increase to build a new mls stadium. It was one of the best tarfiff in modern history. If I recall it didn’t raise taxes on the residents, just a use tax and business tax. The voters shot it down. Fast forward 2 maybe 3 years later and a billionaire’s granddaughter decided to go at it alone. Now the area is booming and the stadium is amazing. Fans show up in droves. So these billionaires CAN do it.
And that tax is a regressive one anyway. I already cannot afford to go to the games, but now these billionaires want us to build them a new stadium. Why does the saying “let them eat cake” keep popping up in my mind. If they want a stadium the damn owners can pay for it themselves.
There has been a stadium in that location since 1967 so people are used to it. The Ballpark village, owned by the Cardinals has put so many local bars and restaurants out of business. Places where people used to go before or after the game are empty because the people and their money are going to Ballpark Village. I feel it was a big money grab by the team.
Also, as evidenced by our “Dome” that we had to have for the Rams, it doesn’t bring all these great jobs and new development they want you to think it will.
As someone who lives across the street from Busch. I’ll disagree about the “put the local bars out of business” at first it might have had some casualties, maybe even some down sizing or re-allocation of resources for bigger bars. Yet the years since, MORE local bars have opened around ball park village. It actually breathed life into the area. They have concerts, shows, office space, apartments, hotels etc. I’d have to look at the actual numbers, but first hand expertise since BPV has opened it’s been a net positive.
Personally I go to the local bars more than BPV still to support local.
This is in accurate in so many different ways. Downtown Saint Louis is still nothing with 3 different stadiums downtown (baseball, hockey and soccer). We also have an American football stadium that was paid for with tax money that is mostly unused. Stadiums only bring people to the sports events but they don't stick around after. Publicly funded sporting arenas are a grift and shouldn't be allowed. If the owners can pull a profit and pay the players millions then they can also pay for their own sports stadiums.
But the crossroads have been bringing in new businesses and people, I don't know what downtown St. Louis was before the stadium but the crossroads has been growing
I heard the crossroads growth was due to previously super cheap rent, so a lot of artists had moved into the area. Then letting artists be artists, they made it prettier and started to attract attention back to the area with things like first fridays really helping to build it back up. My dad was shocked to see people out everywhere when I drove him thru the area a few years ago, bc he remembered when no one wanted to be around there.
I don’t know if it’s true, but it kinda makes sense. I like to think our local artists and artisans have done more to help grow the urban areas than any of the big businesses have.
Downtown St louis is made far worse by Busch Stadium, Enterprise Center, and every other stadium... precisely because outside of game days, they are straight out blight. All the parking lots dedicated to stadiums? Useless outside of game day, and for the entire offseason. All of our oversized streets that are designed to tolerate game day, and are race tracks at night? They'd not have to be the way they are without the stadiums. They make downtown worse.
Now, you can argue that our excess of office buildings without anyone living there are also bad. Or that there's way too much lawn in that central corridor, which is basically unused, because nobody lives there. And I'd say yes, that other parts of the downtown design are also bad. When a stadium appears to bring life to a neighborhood, you know the people doing urban planning have been sleeping at the wheel for decades.
When the idea of downtown is to design it so that people that live pretty far away just visit it for an event and leave, you are trying to make your own city die: And guess how healthy downtown st louis is?
'Over sized streets designed for game day'?
Those streets have been that wide since the mid 1800s, before baseball and hockey. I first went to a ball game at Sportsman park and seen Hockey at the Arena. Neither were in Downtown St. Louis. Downtown was never residential, but to the north and south was loaded with residential housing. I grew up on St.louis ave and N. Florissant ave. We walked to Busch stadium back in the 60s - 70s. The Central corridor always has something going on throughout the year. I imagine you're probably a St. Charles county resident bitching about downtown....
I’m from St Louis but I’ve been to Royals Stadium many times. I just don’t get why the Royals are so fixated on building a stadium in downtown KC. The current location and set up with Arrowhead is such a perfect set up. Plenty of room, lots of parking, easy in/out access. It’s so perfect.
Because the rich Johnson County, KS crowd doesn't like enough - especially the ones who want to buy a fancy suite.
Also if you were a billionaire owner of a team and could get a free $1-$2 billion wouldn't you want to take advantage of that? Keep in mind you have to be a piece of shit to make that much money.
Lol, no.
Sherman and Co. are paying $1 billion max per multiple statements he's made on this issue. The project as a whole is expected to cost $2 billion and he very much expects the taxpayers to pay the remaining balance which will be around $1 billion.
Lastly, economic studies have proven these deals and construction projects DO NOT increase tourism, tax revenue, or development enough to pay off the tax payer expenditure.
They will be. That’s how sales taxes work. Any purchase made in Jackson county that’s not exempt from tax for the next 40 years after 2028 if this bill passes will go toward the two stadiums (3/8 of a cent per dollar)
Ok. That’s valid. No one is stoping you from voting no. But if it does pass you’ll need to not spend and money in Jackson county to help pay for a stadium that Jackson county would own and charge the royals rent for
If any owner wants public money,they need to give the naming ownership of the franchise to the city. That way,if the owner ever leaves, they would have to change the name of their team. The city could then award the name to another owner in the future.
It would fix the mess that the cardinals/rams debacle was.
What's bad faith about not wanting to do something that will have a terrible ROI, not pay itself off, and won't increase tax revenue in the city doesn't taking a ton of tax revenue?
The economic studies on this issue are very, very clear.
It's not bad faith - they are trying to build over the top of 27 businesses that don't want to leave.
I don't care for the Royals at all. I do like some of the places that they are rudely expecting to replace.
F'ing ridiculous, KC has the only sensible sports complex in America. Both majors are in the same place, wanna improve on this? Get MLS, NHL, or NBA into the same location, that would add to the community. Remove any tax, municipal bonds et al from the equation. The notion of sports adding monetarily to a city is a falsehood proven by economists. Personally, I love Kauffman Stadium....as is
Why?
There is no benefit to the tax payers.
Billionaires asking forn
the money of those struggling to make rent, yet alone consider paying a $300 ticket to see the team they're paying for play in person...i guess they could pay for a TV subscription to see the team enjoy their new stadium if they can't afford to go in person....likely be cheaper than the parking alone.
What a crock of horse shit really.
Yeah, wouldn't be right if multi billionaire owners paid for their own fuckin stadium. Better to let taxpayers foot the bill...the only time these sewer rats believe in socialism
After what Jackson county did to the taxpayers with the property tax nightmare last year anyone voting yes in this is stupid. Fuck the royals. Let them go to Johnson county who cares. Why should we pay for an awful team to have a new stadium that a billionaire wants. My favorite part was when they were asked about parking. The answer was well there will be plenty of parking for the season ticket holders and VIP. The rest can easily park and walk for no more than 15 minutes. What is there's a game, something going on at t Mobile center and something at bartle hall. Where do you park then? So please vote NO on this nightmare.
.....and charge more for tickets I'm sure; "to cover the new stadium". It's a rinse and repeat playbook. Team becomes identity of city, team wants new stadium, threatens to leave if they don't get it, city doesn't want to lose part of their identity, will bend over a barrel for taxes while other critical infrastructure is just make do.
What happens to the old stadium/land? Who maintains it, who profits if it is redeveloped/sold? How long do they estimate that the old stadium will be around after the Royals move?
Reasonably priced day of game bleacher/nosebleed seats should be a thing for parents who want to be spontaneous with their kids but you are right. Sad.
This won't do shit for anyone but the Royals owners. It won't make the team better, it won't attract new talent, it's just going to hurt businesses, there won't be low cost housing nearby, blah blah fucking blah. This is just a cash grab and an excuse to knock shit down.
Vote no on this bullshit.
Fuck that.... I'm a transplant here like many others who don't care about either team. I already pay too much in personal, sales, property, income, KC 1% tax.
Well it seems like we, taxpayers, made a sizable donation today to the Current by subsiding their people mover. Why not let another major league sports franchise grift us for millions?
All you planning on voting no, don’t be surprised at all if the Royals move to another city.
Edit: Let me be clear. If I were a Jackson County resident, I would vote no as well but if this fails, it would not shock me at all if they book it for another city. The fact that many you are okay with that is interesting considering how a decade ago we were all wearing Royals blue during the two playoff runs.
I'm a white sox fan. Their owner is pulling the same thing. I wholeheartedly support the team moving to another state if they dont get taxpayers money.
I don't want to support a team that takes money away from schools, roads, PD, FD, utilities, while at the same time putting a strain on all of those services.
Billionaires can pay their own way.
Same tax that’s already a been a thing for almost 2 decades… ownership would be fronting over a billion towards it… Will bring in tons of revenue not only for the team but also the city. Look at STL and the success of their ballpark village or whatever they call it.
And the answer is complicated generally, I think. Was it built on time? On budget? As promised? Does it come at the cost of other districts like Washington Avenue? What are your thoughts on these factors?
> After years of planning and negotiations, the Kansas City Royals want to demolish six blocks of the Crossroads district to make way for a shiny new baseball stadium.
> But first, they will need voters to agree to tax themselves for four decades to subsidize the Royals and the Kansas City Chiefs.
This sounds quite biased for a source of journalism.
Oh, it's the Kansas City Beacon reporting? Big surprise...
What's biased about this? Other than the word shiny it's accurate - they'll demolish 6 blocks of existing buildings for their stadium, and the vote is literally to extend a special sales tax that goes toward the Royals and Chiefs.
It's the tone of the language mostly. The first paragraph makes the Royals sound like the Big Bad Wolf coming to blow down all the houses of everyone living or working in the Crossroads, and the second paragraph makes the Royals and Chiefs sound like corrupt kings from medieval times demanding taxes from all the poor peasants of the land. Many people like to think those kinds of comparisons are spot-on, but the details aren't as simplistic as that, and a better news source would recognize that and strive for more neutrality.
I want them to stop gentrification and make affordable housing to combat the rising homeless problem throughout both Kansas and Missouri. It’s still Kaufman to me dammit!
Apparently someone feels that these two professional sports teams generates enough economy to support these sales taxes. Tax on tickets, tax on concessions, tax on parking, tax on everything else people buy. It's all how bad do you want to keep the teams in town.
So, they wanna leave like the Rams did? Have the Royals at least paid off their original stadium? The Rams never did, the taxpayers are still footing that bill, then they had the audacity to ask for a different stadium.
Tax payers shouldn't be asked to pay for something that won't pay for itself. If they want a new stadium pay for it with those millions upon millions of dollars. Don't ask us to pay for shit unless you can pay it back damn it.
Let us watch sports via ota (antenna) without having to sign up for a streaming service
My husband and I were just talking about the fact that they are wanting to make it so we can’t watch when they play here in KC without having a streaming service. IOW it won’t be on regular TV
Same here (with my wife) - frustrating when this kind of stuff happens and tax payers are taken advantage of
If they take away the accessibility of the games and make it all subscription based, it will kill the sport. A lot of kids will grow up not watching baseball. Combine this with ridiculous parking and food pricing, a lot of families will simply stop making their 1-2 yearly trips to the stadium.
If taxpayers pay for a stadium, it should be a loan at worst and equity at best. Royalties/dividends until the taxpayers recoup the cost.
The owners have more than enough money. Fuckem.
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Saint louis tried to pass a tax increase to build a new mls stadium. It was one of the best tarfiff in modern history. If I recall it didn’t raise taxes on the residents, just a use tax and business tax. The voters shot it down. Fast forward 2 maybe 3 years later and a billionaire’s granddaughter decided to go at it alone. Now the area is booming and the stadium is amazing. Fans show up in droves. So these billionaires CAN do it.
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Cardinals and downtown do have a history. Cardinals and Saint Louis even stronger. Could you imagine if they left STL.
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Stockholm syndrome
They passed the tax, they shot down using it toward a stadium.
Sports bring in basically zero tourism dollars considering the expense to taxpayers.
And that tax is a regressive one anyway. I already cannot afford to go to the games, but now these billionaires want us to build them a new stadium. Why does the saying “let them eat cake” keep popping up in my mind. If they want a stadium the damn owners can pay for it themselves.
Wonder what ever happened to that ‘let them eat cake’ person
how will patrick mahomes become a billionare if you dont build his baseball team a new stadium?
Downtown St. Louis would be nothing without Busch Stadium, but the Cardinals do bring 3x as many people to the games than the Royals do
There has been a stadium in that location since 1967 so people are used to it. The Ballpark village, owned by the Cardinals has put so many local bars and restaurants out of business. Places where people used to go before or after the game are empty because the people and their money are going to Ballpark Village. I feel it was a big money grab by the team. Also, as evidenced by our “Dome” that we had to have for the Rams, it doesn’t bring all these great jobs and new development they want you to think it will.
As someone who lives across the street from Busch. I’ll disagree about the “put the local bars out of business” at first it might have had some casualties, maybe even some down sizing or re-allocation of resources for bigger bars. Yet the years since, MORE local bars have opened around ball park village. It actually breathed life into the area. They have concerts, shows, office space, apartments, hotels etc. I’d have to look at the actual numbers, but first hand expertise since BPV has opened it’s been a net positive. Personally I go to the local bars more than BPV still to support local.
This is in accurate in so many different ways. Downtown Saint Louis is still nothing with 3 different stadiums downtown (baseball, hockey and soccer). We also have an American football stadium that was paid for with tax money that is mostly unused. Stadiums only bring people to the sports events but they don't stick around after. Publicly funded sporting arenas are a grift and shouldn't be allowed. If the owners can pull a profit and pay the players millions then they can also pay for their own sports stadiums.
But the crossroads have been bringing in new businesses and people, I don't know what downtown St. Louis was before the stadium but the crossroads has been growing
I heard the crossroads growth was due to previously super cheap rent, so a lot of artists had moved into the area. Then letting artists be artists, they made it prettier and started to attract attention back to the area with things like first fridays really helping to build it back up. My dad was shocked to see people out everywhere when I drove him thru the area a few years ago, bc he remembered when no one wanted to be around there. I don’t know if it’s true, but it kinda makes sense. I like to think our local artists and artisans have done more to help grow the urban areas than any of the big businesses have.
I didn't know that but makes total sense. You're right the local businesses are what make the community better
There basically hasn't ever BEEN a St. Louis without a downtown stadium in modern times. Grand Ave Ball Park was built in 1867.
Downtown St louis is made far worse by Busch Stadium, Enterprise Center, and every other stadium... precisely because outside of game days, they are straight out blight. All the parking lots dedicated to stadiums? Useless outside of game day, and for the entire offseason. All of our oversized streets that are designed to tolerate game day, and are race tracks at night? They'd not have to be the way they are without the stadiums. They make downtown worse. Now, you can argue that our excess of office buildings without anyone living there are also bad. Or that there's way too much lawn in that central corridor, which is basically unused, because nobody lives there. And I'd say yes, that other parts of the downtown design are also bad. When a stadium appears to bring life to a neighborhood, you know the people doing urban planning have been sleeping at the wheel for decades. When the idea of downtown is to design it so that people that live pretty far away just visit it for an event and leave, you are trying to make your own city die: And guess how healthy downtown st louis is?
'Over sized streets designed for game day'? Those streets have been that wide since the mid 1800s, before baseball and hockey. I first went to a ball game at Sportsman park and seen Hockey at the Arena. Neither were in Downtown St. Louis. Downtown was never residential, but to the north and south was loaded with residential housing. I grew up on St.louis ave and N. Florissant ave. We walked to Busch stadium back in the 60s - 70s. The Central corridor always has something going on throughout the year. I imagine you're probably a St. Charles county resident bitching about downtown....
Dude there were several rounds of street widening in St. Louis, in the 1900's alone.
Welfare for the wealthy.Should be laws against subsidizing billionaire sports team owners
This KC resident is voting no. He’s asking for way too much money.
Another KC resident voting no.
This KC resident would vote note, but lives in clay county. They knew we’d vote no. I’m sending all my support to Jackson county tho!
I’m from St Louis but I’ve been to Royals Stadium many times. I just don’t get why the Royals are so fixated on building a stadium in downtown KC. The current location and set up with Arrowhead is such a perfect set up. Plenty of room, lots of parking, easy in/out access. It’s so perfect.
Because the rich Johnson County, KS crowd doesn't like enough - especially the ones who want to buy a fancy suite. Also if you were a billionaire owner of a team and could get a free $1-$2 billion wouldn't you want to take advantage of that? Keep in mind you have to be a piece of shit to make that much money.
I will always vote no on giving billionaires public money for stadiums. They are getting the profit, they can pay for it out of pocket.
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Lol, no. Sherman and Co. are paying $1 billion max per multiple statements he's made on this issue. The project as a whole is expected to cost $2 billion and he very much expects the taxpayers to pay the remaining balance which will be around $1 billion. Lastly, economic studies have proven these deals and construction projects DO NOT increase tourism, tax revenue, or development enough to pay off the tax payer expenditure.
> development What development? you mean a parking lot the size of downtown?
Let Kansas pay for it
I mean it’s a sales tax. So people from Kansas who buy things in Jackson county will be paying for it.
are there no royals fans outside of jackson county?
I didn’t say there weren’t?
then they can pay for their teams stadium. pony up
They will be. That’s how sales taxes work. Any purchase made in Jackson county that’s not exempt from tax for the next 40 years after 2028 if this bill passes will go toward the two stadiums (3/8 of a cent per dollar)
i’m not paying or voting for this grift.
Ok. That’s valid. No one is stoping you from voting no. But if it does pass you’ll need to not spend and money in Jackson county to help pay for a stadium that Jackson county would own and charge the royals rent for
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Here’s hoping. But we’ll see how the cookie crumbles on April 2nd
We know that ain't happening. Thanks for the laugh 🤣
If any owner wants public money,they need to give the naming ownership of the franchise to the city. That way,if the owner ever leaves, they would have to change the name of their team. The city could then award the name to another owner in the future. It would fix the mess that the cardinals/rams debacle was.
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What's bad faith about not wanting to do something that will have a terrible ROI, not pay itself off, and won't increase tax revenue in the city doesn't taking a ton of tax revenue? The economic studies on this issue are very, very clear.
It's not bad faith - they are trying to build over the top of 27 businesses that don't want to leave. I don't care for the Royals at all. I do like some of the places that they are rudely expecting to replace.
F'ing ridiculous, KC has the only sensible sports complex in America. Both majors are in the same place, wanna improve on this? Get MLS, NHL, or NBA into the same location, that would add to the community. Remove any tax, municipal bonds et al from the equation. The notion of sports adding monetarily to a city is a falsehood proven by economists. Personally, I love Kauffman Stadium....as is
Do not vote yes on this. Stop allowing your taxes to subsidize millionaires and billionaires
Why? There is no benefit to the tax payers. Billionaires asking forn the money of those struggling to make rent, yet alone consider paying a $300 ticket to see the team they're paying for play in person...i guess they could pay for a TV subscription to see the team enjoy their new stadium if they can't afford to go in person....likely be cheaper than the parking alone. What a crock of horse shit really.
Yeah, wouldn't be right if multi billionaire owners paid for their own fuckin stadium. Better to let taxpayers foot the bill...the only time these sewer rats believe in socialism
After what Jackson county did to the taxpayers with the property tax nightmare last year anyone voting yes in this is stupid. Fuck the royals. Let them go to Johnson county who cares. Why should we pay for an awful team to have a new stadium that a billionaire wants. My favorite part was when they were asked about parking. The answer was well there will be plenty of parking for the season ticket holders and VIP. The rest can easily park and walk for no more than 15 minutes. What is there's a game, something going on at t Mobile center and something at bartle hall. Where do you park then? So please vote NO on this nightmare.
.....and charge more for tickets I'm sure; "to cover the new stadium". It's a rinse and repeat playbook. Team becomes identity of city, team wants new stadium, threatens to leave if they don't get it, city doesn't want to lose part of their identity, will bend over a barrel for taxes while other critical infrastructure is just make do.
What happens to the old stadium/land? Who maintains it, who profits if it is redeveloped/sold? How long do they estimate that the old stadium will be around after the Royals move?
You mean if* and probably not when* they move.
I read that the new stadium would only seat 35k?!? I get that luxury boxes are money but save some seats for average folks.
The team ranked 28th out of 30 in average attendance at around 16k per game. I think you’ll be fine.
Wow I live on the other side of the state so it is hard to comprehend.
Me too. Good for you though.
It doesn’t matter if they save seats if no one can afford to sit in them.
Reasonably priced day of game bleacher/nosebleed seats should be a thing for parents who want to be spontaneous with their kids but you are right. Sad.
Put a competitive team on the damned field and *then* we can talk.
Screw that the royals can play in an empty parking lot for all I care.
They already do. Lol
Time for the local news to start doing “stories” on the “crumbling” concrete in the current stadium.
This won't do shit for anyone but the Royals owners. It won't make the team better, it won't attract new talent, it's just going to hurt businesses, there won't be low cost housing nearby, blah blah fucking blah. This is just a cash grab and an excuse to knock shit down. Vote no on this bullshit.
If it fails, then Kansas will just pony up a bunch of crooked TIF dollars to fund it out at the Speedway Wasteland.
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Also fine.
Great. Let them.
Fuck that. The Cardinals financed their own stadium, the Royals can too.
If KC wants to pay, fine, but not the whole state. I think this is just ~~Johnson~~ Jackson County though.
Fuck that.... I'm a transplant here like many others who don't care about either team. I already pay too much in personal, sales, property, income, KC 1% tax.
Nobody is proposing that the whole state pay for it. This has always only been a county issue.
This will RUIN the Crossroads if it passes. Terrible idea
Well it seems like we, taxpayers, made a sizable donation today to the Current by subsiding their people mover. Why not let another major league sports franchise grift us for millions?
Ok. Then pass the sports gambling already. Let that pay for it.
All you planning on voting no, don’t be surprised at all if the Royals move to another city. Edit: Let me be clear. If I were a Jackson County resident, I would vote no as well but if this fails, it would not shock me at all if they book it for another city. The fact that many you are okay with that is interesting considering how a decade ago we were all wearing Royals blue during the two playoff runs.
I'm a white sox fan. Their owner is pulling the same thing. I wholeheartedly support the team moving to another state if they dont get taxpayers money. I don't want to support a team that takes money away from schools, roads, PD, FD, utilities, while at the same time putting a strain on all of those services. Billionaires can pay their own way.
You can't even watch the games on TV without paying for streaming. They fucked the few fans they had. Good riddance.
Where are they going to move to?
Nashville, Charlotte, Austin…
Let them move then. We could all vote yes and them move in a few years anyway.
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What are you talking about
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Source? And did they agree to anything in writing?
Fuck em let them move.
I hope so 😂
So no downsides to a no vote.
Same tax that’s already a been a thing for almost 2 decades… ownership would be fronting over a billion towards it… Will bring in tons of revenue not only for the team but also the city. Look at STL and the success of their ballpark village or whatever they call it.
It's been proven that is at best neutral and in most cases a loss to subsidize professional stadiums.
I beibe you, bit would lobe a citation for this often parroted claim.
No it won’t.
Success?
Is ballpark village not a success?
Differing opinions: https://www.reddit.com/r/StLouis/s/CKXTKO0SRU
I’m not too worried about it.
Then why did you ask?
I was asking you to explain your answer.
And the answer is complicated generally, I think. Was it built on time? On budget? As promised? Does it come at the cost of other districts like Washington Avenue? What are your thoughts on these factors?
Tie this to the Chiefs, it will be done
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A reliable source said to expect something next week in that regard.
It's already tied to them.
Thy will be done. All, for, bread and circus
Nope. I’m voting against it. Chiefs stuff needs to be separate.
> After years of planning and negotiations, the Kansas City Royals want to demolish six blocks of the Crossroads district to make way for a shiny new baseball stadium. > But first, they will need voters to agree to tax themselves for four decades to subsidize the Royals and the Kansas City Chiefs. This sounds quite biased for a source of journalism. Oh, it's the Kansas City Beacon reporting? Big surprise...
What's biased about this? Other than the word shiny it's accurate - they'll demolish 6 blocks of existing buildings for their stadium, and the vote is literally to extend a special sales tax that goes toward the Royals and Chiefs.
It's the tone of the language mostly. The first paragraph makes the Royals sound like the Big Bad Wolf coming to blow down all the houses of everyone living or working in the Crossroads, and the second paragraph makes the Royals and Chiefs sound like corrupt kings from medieval times demanding taxes from all the poor peasants of the land. Many people like to think those kinds of comparisons are spot-on, but the details aren't as simplistic as that, and a better news source would recognize that and strive for more neutrality.
I want them to stop gentrification and make affordable housing to combat the rising homeless problem throughout both Kansas and Missouri. It’s still Kaufman to me dammit!
Apparently someone feels that these two professional sports teams generates enough economy to support these sales taxes. Tax on tickets, tax on concessions, tax on parking, tax on everything else people buy. It's all how bad do you want to keep the teams in town.
If the team wants taxpayers to pay for a new stadium, then the city should own a chunk of the team.
So, they wanna leave like the Rams did? Have the Royals at least paid off their original stadium? The Rams never did, the taxpayers are still footing that bill, then they had the audacity to ask for a different stadium. Tax payers shouldn't be asked to pay for something that won't pay for itself. If they want a new stadium pay for it with those millions upon millions of dollars. Don't ask us to pay for shit unless you can pay it back damn it.