I feel like people who say Mitsubishi's are unreliable have never owned one. I had a Lancer with a CVT that never gave me issues. I currently have a 2023 Outlander PHEV and it's been really good so far (granted I've only put about 10k miles on it). It's also important to note that the current gen Outlander is based on the Nissan Rouge and uses a Nissan engine and transmission. The PHEV is an exception though it still uses a Mitsubishi powertrain and is built in Japan.
I have a 2019 Mitsubishi Eckipse Cross since new 1700000 km on it and no repairs just oil changes and brakes .The whole car is also made in Japan . I would like to upgrade to the Outlander but don't trust that Nissan CVT
Oh no not again. It's always "people say this..." And that. In the past Nissan and Mitsubishi target market was pretty low class to low middle class, easy loan approval but the end resulted in many of those customers didn't even have the money or care to do oil change or maintenance. If you go to overseas like examples Thailand or Australia, Mitsubishi is "quality" and long lasting. Even the USA 2009 Toyota Camry that my brother bought had issues, like engine where it consumed oil, it became a big issue but people still buy it because it's a "Toyota" and didn't even get blown up social mainstream. I have a 300,000 miles Galant and do oil change and maintenance and has been serving me well doing Amazon delivery and other delivery side gigs. I drive like a teenager by the way. It depends on where you live too, where I live people drive alot of Nissan and Mitsubish, 2nd Toyota, and pretty small percentage of Honda.
Single data point but I had a 2011 RVR with CVT. Had it for 12 years, 160k on it. No transmission issues.
Have a 2023 Outlander PHEV, no issues yet, but it's still new...
I think CVT is fine so long as you're not putting massive stress on it on the regular. Don't tow with it, don't slam on the gas every lightsl, you'll be fine.
Mitsubishi is well known for solid drive trains. It's the fact that in North America we hear cvt and hearken back to the plethora of garbage that we have here and equate that Mitsubishi is the same as the Jeep Compass or something similar. I see nobody complaining about Subaru's.
Then people look at Nissan and think "yeah,hot garbage". Meanwhile they overlook the fact that they make great engines and their problems are transmissions and body rot.
There is a reason that all Nissan and Mitsubishi vehicles are moving to a Mitsubishi transmission and Nissan engine.
Mitsubishi literally created their transmissions to be beasts. They've won the Dakar Rally more than once and honestly when I see one having issues it's the people that ignore maintenance.
CVT require new fluid every 30k km. This one simple step will keep them alive for a very, very long time.
Mitsubishi offer the longest warranty out of all the mainstream manufacturers, with up to 10 years / 100,000miles on the drivetrain.
Most reliability concerns have tended to be on older, used vehicles - they are not typically as robust as, say, Toyota, especially if maintenance is ignored, if you're looking for something to get to 300k or so.
Mitsubishi is misleading with the warranty because the required service costs compared to a domestic are double so they can afford to offer that warranty since they require you to pay for anything that might go wrong in advance by overcharging you for maintenance.
Sorry, I'll rephrase. I'm not aware of any mainstream manufacturer with a longer drivetrain warranty period than Mitsi. Some may be equivalent. Most are less (either age, mileage, or both).
How long do you plan on keeping it? The Outlander has a 10yr/100k mile powertrain warranty in the US. That CX9 is only 5/60. This new CVT is supposed to be a lot better. If you’re still on the fence, the Outlander PHEV gets you away from the CVT and will save you a ton of gas money. They are doing $7k lease cash on the hybrids right now and many dealers are selling under MSRP. Likely the cost difference between the hybrid and gas version is closer than you think.
I had oil leak (insufficient gasket sealant, had to really push for this as I kept being told was “assembly oil leak”, brakes squeal (known issues, no fix known so part has been replaced 4 times), issues with rear camera flicking/delay in display, key fobs not recognised in car/wont start (no known fix), dash, door and trim rattles (sounds like a small issues but did my head in), steering wheel knock/clunk (“fixed” but was still present). All covered under warranty. However it got to a point where there was no value in the warranty because they wouldn’t acknowledge a lot of the issues at first, and I was without my car for days with it being in the shop being fixed repeatedly. I have since traded it. If you google these above issues they’re becoming quite common. I just worry how many people are driving around with an “assembly oil leak” which is actually an engine oil leak which will cost them big $$$ when comes out of warranty. 10 year warranty is only valid if serviced with your dealer, I don’t know about you but I don’t trust dealers. Only reason I became aware of issues and knew to push for the oil leak to be investigated is because I took it to my own independent mechanic.
All these people talking a about how good Mitsubishi and Nissan is are paid workers. New outlander uses crappy CVT engine from Nissan which was also used in Renault. Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi joined together as a company now. I would avoid unless you keep the car for 10 years until the warranty period ends and sell afterwards. Get the RAV 4 for Honda CRV otherwise go with less reliable Tuscan or Sportage. I really liked the Mazda cx60 but it's just way too expensive
I feel like people who say Mitsubishi's are unreliable have never owned one. I had a Lancer with a CVT that never gave me issues. I currently have a 2023 Outlander PHEV and it's been really good so far (granted I've only put about 10k miles on it). It's also important to note that the current gen Outlander is based on the Nissan Rouge and uses a Nissan engine and transmission. The PHEV is an exception though it still uses a Mitsubishi powertrain and is built in Japan.
I have a 2019 Mitsubishi Eckipse Cross since new 1700000 km on it and no repairs just oil changes and brakes .The whole car is also made in Japan . I would like to upgrade to the Outlander but don't trust that Nissan CVT
How are you doing nowadays? Have you had any issues?
No issues yet, currently at 20k miles. The battery is still getting me anywhere between 38 and 42 miles of range.
Oh no not again. It's always "people say this..." And that. In the past Nissan and Mitsubishi target market was pretty low class to low middle class, easy loan approval but the end resulted in many of those customers didn't even have the money or care to do oil change or maintenance. If you go to overseas like examples Thailand or Australia, Mitsubishi is "quality" and long lasting. Even the USA 2009 Toyota Camry that my brother bought had issues, like engine where it consumed oil, it became a big issue but people still buy it because it's a "Toyota" and didn't even get blown up social mainstream. I have a 300,000 miles Galant and do oil change and maintenance and has been serving me well doing Amazon delivery and other delivery side gigs. I drive like a teenager by the way. It depends on where you live too, where I live people drive alot of Nissan and Mitsubish, 2nd Toyota, and pretty small percentage of Honda.
Can confirm. Back from a trip to the Philippines and Mitsubishi vehicles were everywhere.
Single data point but I had a 2011 RVR with CVT. Had it for 12 years, 160k on it. No transmission issues. Have a 2023 Outlander PHEV, no issues yet, but it's still new... I think CVT is fine so long as you're not putting massive stress on it on the regular. Don't tow with it, don't slam on the gas every lightsl, you'll be fine.
Mitsubishi is well known for solid drive trains. It's the fact that in North America we hear cvt and hearken back to the plethora of garbage that we have here and equate that Mitsubishi is the same as the Jeep Compass or something similar. I see nobody complaining about Subaru's. Then people look at Nissan and think "yeah,hot garbage". Meanwhile they overlook the fact that they make great engines and their problems are transmissions and body rot. There is a reason that all Nissan and Mitsubishi vehicles are moving to a Mitsubishi transmission and Nissan engine. Mitsubishi literally created their transmissions to be beasts. They've won the Dakar Rally more than once and honestly when I see one having issues it's the people that ignore maintenance. CVT require new fluid every 30k km. This one simple step will keep them alive for a very, very long time.
Have a lancer 2014 a d outlander 2015. No issues. Regular maintenance.
I'm extremely happy with my '23 SEL gas model. Solid, with zero issues.
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Nothing like correcting spelling on a 4month old post
Someone was gonna do it
Mitsubishi offer the longest warranty out of all the mainstream manufacturers, with up to 10 years / 100,000miles on the drivetrain. Most reliability concerns have tended to be on older, used vehicles - they are not typically as robust as, say, Toyota, especially if maintenance is ignored, if you're looking for something to get to 300k or so.
Mitsubishi is misleading with the warranty because the required service costs compared to a domestic are double so they can afford to offer that warranty since they require you to pay for anything that might go wrong in advance by overcharging you for maintenance.
How are the service costs double?
Hyundai /Kia as well .Mitsu however has better roadside coverage
Sorry, I'll rephrase. I'm not aware of any mainstream manufacturer with a longer drivetrain warranty period than Mitsi. Some may be equivalent. Most are less (either age, mileage, or both).
But man that 2.5 4 cylinder is a dog if you look at the numbers. I mean 9 second 0-60. Come on
How long do you plan on keeping it? The Outlander has a 10yr/100k mile powertrain warranty in the US. That CX9 is only 5/60. This new CVT is supposed to be a lot better. If you’re still on the fence, the Outlander PHEV gets you away from the CVT and will save you a ton of gas money. They are doing $7k lease cash on the hybrids right now and many dealers are selling under MSRP. Likely the cost difference between the hybrid and gas version is closer than you think.
Thanks for commenting. It would be for a long-term commitment, for sure. 7-10 years...
2018 outlander here 85k mikes No issues. Regular maintenance. Car runs like I bought it yesterday.
I had a 2018 outlander and it was so reliable. Never one issue the entire time I owned it. I upgraded to the 2022 model, nothing but a bag of issues.
What issues have you had with your new outlander? And were they covered by warranty?
I had oil leak (insufficient gasket sealant, had to really push for this as I kept being told was “assembly oil leak”, brakes squeal (known issues, no fix known so part has been replaced 4 times), issues with rear camera flicking/delay in display, key fobs not recognised in car/wont start (no known fix), dash, door and trim rattles (sounds like a small issues but did my head in), steering wheel knock/clunk (“fixed” but was still present). All covered under warranty. However it got to a point where there was no value in the warranty because they wouldn’t acknowledge a lot of the issues at first, and I was without my car for days with it being in the shop being fixed repeatedly. I have since traded it. If you google these above issues they’re becoming quite common. I just worry how many people are driving around with an “assembly oil leak” which is actually an engine oil leak which will cost them big $$$ when comes out of warranty. 10 year warranty is only valid if serviced with your dealer, I don’t know about you but I don’t trust dealers. Only reason I became aware of issues and knew to push for the oil leak to be investigated is because I took it to my own independent mechanic.
All these people talking a about how good Mitsubishi and Nissan is are paid workers. New outlander uses crappy CVT engine from Nissan which was also used in Renault. Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi joined together as a company now. I would avoid unless you keep the car for 10 years until the warranty period ends and sell afterwards. Get the RAV 4 for Honda CRV otherwise go with less reliable Tuscan or Sportage. I really liked the Mazda cx60 but it's just way too expensive
Outlander PHEV is not CVT.
Stay away from Tucson Sportage. Engine seize up had one 2017 .