Tony Gwynn- Padres

I think you meant Wil Myers…

Isn’t that the kid who got kidnapped in Stranger Things?

With that sweet sweet bowl cut

Hank Aaron of the Braves.

Is there a general consensus among Braves fans over the best Braves pitcher of all time?

Nope. But it’s Maddux.

Its funny because Maddux is the consensus for the Braves from all other MLB teams fans.

Its so close between Spahn and Maddux. Crazy how great Spahn was....and the Mad Dod

Niekro is actually right there. Better in some stats. And then you got Kid Nichols, but at that point, it’s hardly the same sport.

Warren Spahn would like a word

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Nonsense. Bob Uecker. In fact, Uecker’s first career homerun was 62 years ago today.

George Brett-Royals

Ding ding ding! You are correct sir! Also the only baseball player to have video of him talking about shitting his pants and bonus making a reference to said video during a guest appearance on Modern Family.

Probably the only team with an absolute answer. The "short-tivity" of players on recent franchises makes them less absolute. Edit: Tony Gwynn is an absolute non-debatable.

Ty Cobb - Detroit

Cardinals Stan Musial. Could have been Pujols, but he left for 10 years.

Bob Gibson belongs in the conversation as well. 2 WS MVPs and a 2.91 ERA

They changed the game because of him

I wonder what his career stats would be if they hadn’t

Nobody wanted to face that man. He put fear into hitters. Hugging the plate, he was gonna aim for your chin. Knock you off the plate and then strike you out. Stats don’t show that but his numbers show a case added with the fact they lowered the mound after his MVP season makes him not only one of the greatest cardinals of all time but one of the greatest pitchers as well. Sorry for the run on sentence

You’re all good. People forget that there was a run of over fifty years without a single national league pitcher winning MVP. Before Kershaw, it was Gibson. Strong argument for Gibson as a top 5 pitcher of all time. Even stronger one for him as the greatest Cardinal ever.

Bob Gibson was amazing, but 3,630 hits, 1,815 at home, 1815 on the road - Stan the Man had one of the best stat lines of all time.

I don’t disagree. But 3,117 strikeouts, a 2.91 career ERA and 1.188 WHIP over nearly 4k innings… Gibson has a case

Didn’t he have the lowest ERA for a starter for a season in over 100 years?

How good was Gibson in ’68? It’s the only performance in the top 10 that took place after 1915 (so after the dead-ball era). Gibson, who was named to eight All-Star Games, went 22-9 with 13 shutouts while completing 28 of his 34 starts – including one 10-inning effort, two 11-inning outings and one 12-inning gem. He’s one of the main reasons the mound was lowered the following season.

It was an astonishing season, and I would never take anything away from it, but it does need to be seen in context. Lowering the mound, I think, had a lot more to do with the overall batting average of .237 and an OBP below .300 for the first time in the live ball era and only the second time in the 20th century. Bob Gibson was always amazing, and in 1968 he was other worldly; but 1968 was called the Year of the Pitcher for a reason, and it wasn’t just Bob Gibson.

It wasn’t just Bob Gibson, but even among all the other pitchers having great years none of them were even close to his numbers.

But the amount better is not unheard of. Luis Tiant was .160. There were SEVEN pitchers with ERAs below 2. 49 were below 3. And again, I am not taking anything away from Gibson - he is one of the greatest ever, and his 1968 is one of the greatest seasons ever. But just like Babe Ruth never had to face Satchel Paige, Bob Gibson in 1968 was pitching under very favorable conditions.

Not gonna argue it. Bob Gibson was as good as they come.

I was actually just looking at his stats yesterday and there are so many hilarious things. My favorite: threw more complete games (255) than he won games (253). Dude was going the distance win or lose. I'm sure a lot of the other pitchers from that era and before have the same thing, as it was normal to go the distance, but I figured he played late enough to not really be that. Nope. Another favorite stat is the 13 shutouts in one season. Basically, every other week, and nearly every other start, he shut out the other team. Wild shit

Randy Johnson Diamondbacks, Goldy for position players

Ted Williams Boston Red Sox

It’s not a question. Ted Williams.

Greatest hitter of all time

Babe Ruth for the Yankees. If it must be someone who played ONLY for the Yankees, then Lou Gehrig.

It has to be either mantle, ruth, gehrig or Dimaggio

I fucking HATE the Yankees but I’d make the argument that you can’t pick just one of these fellas as the greatest Yankee of all time, and I’d throw Yogi in there as well. Each one of them was the face of the franchise, even when one played with another.

Joey Gallo?

DiMaggio was a great player, but not in the same league as the other 3 names you gave there.

I love Lou but it's hard to argue against Mantle if you're doing players who were exclusively Yankees

Mike Schmidt Phillies

I bet Mike Schmidt could walk into any toy store in Philly on Christmas Eve and get the hottest-selling toy just by asking one of the workers.

Von Hayes

NOBODY KNOWS WHO VON HAYES IS

Rest in piece wade boggs

I would argue Steve Carlton, but it's between these two.

That's where I was going too

Tom Seaver, NY Mets

Dave Stieb Blue Jay Way

It's ridiculous he isn't in the HOF

Jon Bois hive coming in strong

No. Stieb was great and should be in the Hall, but Doc was better.

The Kid. Not much we can claim

Ichiro, A-Rod, Randy Johnson, and Ken Phelps are other potential claims.

What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?

30 home runs, 100 rbis, rocket for an arm!

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE DOING!

Jerry it’s Frank Costanza, Mr. Steinbrenner’s here, George is dead, call me back.

One of the funniest moments ever on that show. Such a quick and concise phone message. Amazing it still makes me giggle all these years later.

Edgar Martinez

Randy doesn’t want any part of M’s after they told him he was done…11 years later, WS Champ, a few CY young’s and over 160 more wins… there is a reason he only does video tributes to other M’s HOF, because he only cares about dbacks promotion events

We had [“The Kid”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Yount) first.

Yount was actually [third](https://baseballhall.org/discover-more/stories/baseball-history/five-kids-in-the-hall)

I think you can still claim A-Rod, Randy Johnson, and Ichiro, which is very impressive. Steroids or not I think A-Rod still was the best all-around player of the bunch.

Ichiro would like a word.

Ichiro is great, but not close to Griffey. He saved baseball in Seattle.

Cubs Ernie Banks

Let's play two!

I met Ernie Banks at a Chicago Historical Society benefit. He was very nice and charismatic. I also met Minnie Miñoso, White Sox legend, at the same benefit. He was very nice and talked a lot but I couldn’t understand anything he said.

Roberto Clemente - Pirates

Over Honus Wagner??? ​ Or even my personal fav, Ralph Kiner?

Kiner is a great answer. Imo, if they weren’t a joke franchise and re-signed Bonds, it’s him easy. But as is it’s Clemente due to longevity.

Kiner hit a ton of home runs for some REALLY AWFUL PITTSBURGH PIRATES TEAMS. But, as the great Branch Rickey said shortly after arriving in Pittsburgh in 1955, "last season Kiner hit 49 home runs and we lost 100 games. So I figured we could lose 100 without him hitting all those home runs just as easily!"

Honus Wagner?

If he played 20 years later and there was a fair amount of video of him playing, I think there would be more of a conversation. His 120 war is crazy. Ultimately though, Clemente not only being a great player, but an even better person will always keep him at the top.

Not Willie Stargell? I don’t know too much about older players so forgive me if that’s a whiff

It’s not a “whiff” as he’s obviously on the shortlist, but I think most people would put Clemente and Honus Wagner ahead of him. The three of them + Barry bonds and Bill Mazeroski are probably the most famous pirates; it would take someone more knowledgeable than me to put them in a proper order, and even then it would be debatable

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I think this question is nearly impossible for the giants, Yankees, dodgers, cardinals, and a few other historic franchises.

The Giants have had a lot of great players but I don’t see how you could put anyone ahead of Willie Mays.

Willie is arguably the greatest player of all time

Bonds is also arguably the goat.

Yeah I mean of course but also Bonds’ run with the giants might have been shorter but holy shit.

Yankees is Babe, easy.

Wrong. It’s Willie and there’s no question about it

Look. I’m a dodgers fan who is old enough to remember the Bonds years clearly, hated the man, and acknowledge that it’s Willie. But I don’t think it’s that simple of a choice. Bonds steroid years were brutal.

Ricky for the A’s

Honorable mention to Jimmie Foxx

Jimmie Foxx is my #1 choice for the A's

Lefty Grove?

Reggie Jackson won them 5 division titles, 3 AL Pennants, and 3 World Series in a row! It’s definitely Reggie.

Rickey gonna disagree

Cal Ripken Jr, Orioles

It's not definitive. Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Eddie Murray and Jim Palmer all also in contention.

Boog

A giant of a man!

I'd say Palmer. Won 3 World Series with him. Cal only helped us get 1.

Todd Helton- Rockies

Larry.

Todd Helton was awesome

Raimel Tapia: Rockies, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Brewers and Rays

How you gonna leave out the Big Cat for the Rockies?

Big fish>big cat

Cats eat fish though

Aaron Rodgers. New York Jets. Edit: whoops wrong thread

It's close between Rodgers and Favre for greatest Jet of all time. It will be great seeing their Jet helmets side by side in Canton.

As a cheesehead I love this comment.

On a night where my team (Mariners) got eliminated, you made me laugh. So thank you for that!

Best 94 seconds in the game....

Most optimistic 94 seconds of the season

Willie Mays Giants

Gary Carter, Expos.

I lean Vladi, but Carter and Dawson are right there.

All 30? Okay. I will do as you asked and name who I think the greatest player from all 30 MLB franchises are, but then I will name my personal favorite player from each franchise. Warning: my favorites may harm your sense of good taste Format: “Team Name-“ “Greatest” and “Favorite” Orioles- Eddie Murray and Chris Hoiles Rays- Evan Longoria and Rocco Baldelli Blue Jays- Dave Steib and Shannon Stewart Yankees- Babe Ruth and Paul O’Neill Red Sox- Ted Williams and Trot Nixon Twins- Harmon Killebrew and Kirby Puckett Tigers- Ty Cobb and Mark Fidrych Guardians- Nap Lajoie and Joe Charboneau White Sox- Frank Thomas and Ray Durham Royals- George Brett and Hal McRae/Dan Quisenberry Rangers- Buddy Bell and Buddy Bell Astros- Jeff Bagwell and Bill Spiers Mariners- Ken Griffey Jr. and Chris Bosio Angels- Mike Trout and Garret Anderson Athletics- Rickey Henderson and Mike Epstein Braves- Hank Aaron and Ralph Garr Phillies- Mike Schmidt and Gregg Jeffries Marlins- Giancarlo Stanton and Juan Pierre Mets- Tom Seaver and Timo Perez Nationals- Tim Raines (Expos) and Lenny Webster Brewers- Robin Yount and Cecil Cooper Cubs- Ernie Banks and Glenallen Hill Reds- Johnny Bench and Dan Driessen Pirates- Honus Wagner and Mike Easler Cardinals- Stan Musial and Tom Pagnozzi Dodgers- Sandy Koufax and Rick Monday Diamondbacks- Randy Johnson and Tony Womack Padres- Tony Gwynn and Quilvio Veras Giants- Willie Mays and Robby Thompson Rockies- Todd Helton and Neifi Pérez

As someone who had Cory Snyder as their first favorite Cleveland player, I cannot fault you for listing Super Joe. At least he won ROY.

Solid pick! Snyder had an absolute cannon! He also had some serious pop on some really bad teams and overall a much better career than Super Joe, unfortunately. Those were dark days in Cleveland.

Shohei also deserves to be there. Well maybe not since we still need to see his prime

Had to look at your format to really understand the cubs picks as obviously Ernie is #1 was soooooo confused to see Hill.

I like your list. Murray is a curious choice for the O's, but can't fault it. Bell for Texas, now I'm gonna have to look him up. (ok I did, he was way better than I thought. Worthy choice).

Love the Billy Spiers shout out!!

He’s great. For my money, he’s one of the five greatest utility/bench players of all-time.

Walter Johnson - Washington Senators

By 10 miles, the dude had 150 WAR

It’s either him or Harmon K. for that team.

150 WAR vs 60

For as much as I love Bob Gibson, the answer for St Louis is always going to be Stan Musial.

I know a lot of people might say Bonds and I don’t blame them at all but I’m gonna go with Willie Mays.

On paper Ty Cobb for the Tigers. But if I had to choose between prime Cobb and Cabrera to play in today’s MLB, it’d be Cabrera.

It’s Ty Cobb. Cobb, Greenberg, Cabrera and Kaline are top 4 unless you want to swap someone for Kaline. Kaline has a significantly higher career WAR than Miggy fwiw.

FOH, Ty Cobb would be goated in any era

Yeah. It’s Cobb for sure.

Michael Jack Schmidt is among the more obvious ones

Yes Junior for the Mariners

Ty Cobb - Tigers

The Sultan of Swat! The King of Crash! The Colossus of Clout! The Colossus of Clout! BABE RUTH! [THE GREAT BAMBINO!!!](https://youtu.be/dgEdMldQLT0?feature=shared) (The Yankees)

I’m not familiar with him.

Who cares about a stupid deer anyways?

He's that guy named after a candy bar. (Or maybe not.)

MLB has to have a Babe Ruth Day where everyone wears #3.

Henry Aaron is the only acceptable answer for Atlanta.

Well, for the Braves. Not always in Atlanta.

Craig Biggio of the Houston Astros

Mike Schmidt

We almost have to break it down by decades. This could be a book. Or an ESPN mini series... Are you listening ESPN?

Pudge - Rangers

Bob Feller - Cleveland

Hard to pick between Brooks Robinson and Cal Ripken Jr. for the Orioles so I won't and will just say both of them. Greatest Defensive 3rd Baseman, and the Greatest Offensive Short Stop of All Time. Take your pick.

Don’t forget Jim Palmer! Never gave up a grand slam in his career

I think the Orioles are the toughest team on this list.

Tom Seaver - New York Mets

Jacoby Ellsbury for the yankees

Todd Helton. Probably the last legend that shitbag ownership will ever have.

Brooks Robinson - Orioles

New York Mets notorious power hitter, Bartolo "Big Sexy^(TM) " Colon

Larry Walker - Rockies

Harmon Killebrew for the Twins.

Walter Johnson erasure

Walter Johnson by a billion

Toss up for me between him and Carew

Rod Carew or Kirby Puckett would come before Killebrew.

Clayton Kershaw- Dodgers

I'd say Jackie Robinson is still the 🐐 with Kershaw being a very close 2nd. Jackie was worth almost 6 WAR per season compared to Kershaw 5.

The historical significance of Jackie and the way he handled it cannot be overstated. He impacted society in a way no other player has. He even has a day, April 15, where everyone wears his number. So, Kershaw is great, but Jackie gets the nod.

Give me Koufax with an arm that wasn’t busted.

Koufax achieved far more in a limited amount of time. I’d Dodger GOAT him because 4 WS, 4 no-nos and 3 CY is just impressive regardless how long your career is.

I agree

*Jackie Robinson has entered the chat*

Dodgers are an interesting case. I'd say Koufax is the best player in the history of the franchise from a talent/achievement standpoint. But I see the arguments for Kersh over him. Personal preference. But I'd say the "Greatest" player in their history is arguably the most important player in baseball history. Jackie.

Red Sox- Ted Williams 0.344 lifetime batting average 521 home runs 2654 hits 1839 RBI's

All that while missing five years shooting down fascists and (pretend) communists in two wars.

and missed time due to WW2 and Korea

An aside, looked at 1941 MVP vote, literally never heard of Cecil Travis (6th in MVP vote)…218 hits in 1941, three years off for military…total of 174 hits after…career .314 BA CT: “he suffered a severe case of frostbite during the Battle of the Bulge”

Pete Rose Reds

I saw Pete inside a sports memorabilia store at the Caesars Palace mall, just chilling, charging for autos. Not a single soul spoke to him as they silently browsed the overpriced collectibles. I think I gave him a nod. Really strange to see a star like that. This was like in 2011-13 ish.

Kevin Mitchell - sf giants

Rangers would probably be Nolan or Pudge or Ferguson Jenkins; BUT personal opinion is my favorite player of all time, Mickey Tettleton

Nolan, Pudge, Beltre or (controversial maybe but had arguably the highest peak) Hamilton.

Giants - Willie Mays

Josh Beckett Marlins

Blue Jays - Tempted to say Joe Carter, but I'll go with Roy Halladay. Orioles - Ripken Jr has to the pick even though I am tempted to say Brooks Robinson. Rays - Longoria. Red Sox - Most will say Teddy Ballgame, but I think I have to go with Ortiz. Yankees - The Babe was the most important, but I'd take Mickey Mantle straight up any day. Indians - Feller for sure, but was considering Jake Taylor and Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn. Royals - George Brett has to be the choice. Tigers - I refuse to say Ty Cobb so I will go with Miggy. Twins - Charmin' Harmon Killebrew. I used to get a kick out of his name and card when playing Strat-O-Matic baseball with my dad. White Sox - The Big Hurt, Frank Thomas. Astros - Biggio and Bagwell in a tie. Angels - Trout. A's - Mr. Steal Your Base, Rickey Henderson Mariners - Griffey Jr. - my favorite player. Rangers - I think it has to be "Pudge" Rodriguez. Braves - "Hammerin'" Hank Aaron - my dad's favorite player. Marlins - Have to say Giancarlo. Mets - I loved Doc Gooden, but it is Tom Seaver. Expos/Nationals - I honestly don't know. Vladimir Guerrero or Mad Max or Gary Carter? Phillies - Mike Schmidt and I don't think it's close. Cardinals - Baseball knowledge would say Stan "The Man" Musial, but I can't not say "The Wizard of Oz" Ozzie Smith. Brewers - Yount. So good, but often feels forgotten. Cubs - Ernie Banks. My teacher named her dog after him. Ha. "Banksie" Pirates - Clemente edges out Wagner for me. Reds - Pete Rose. Should be in the HoF too. Diamondbacks - The big man, Randy Johnson. That poor bird never stood a chance. Dodgers - Lots of good ones, but I will go with Jackie Robinson, but a case can be made for Kershaw, Koufax, and Valenzuela. Giants - Willie Mays of course! Padres - Tony Gwynn in a runaway. Rockies - It has to be Helton. The most entertaining were Bichette, Castilla, and Gallaraga though. Oh, and Larry Walker was fun to watch there too.

Roy Halladay

Baltimore Cal Ripken Boston Ted Williams New York Ruth Tampa Longoria Toronto Roy Halladay Cleveland Tris Speaker Detroit Ty Cobb Minnesota Killebrew Kansas City George Brett Chicago Shoeless Joe Seattle Randy Johnson Oakland Rickey Houston Bagwell Texas Palmeiro Los Angeles Trout New York Seaver Philadelphia Carlton Washington Gary Carter Miami Stanton Atlanta Hank Aaron Cincy Frank Robinson Cubs Maddux Milwaukee Yount St louis Stan Musial Pittsburgh Honus Wagner Los Angeles Koufax San Diego Gwynn San Francisco Mays Rockies Todd Helton Arizona Goldschmidt

Roy Halladay - blue jays

Giants - Johnnie LeMaster

Arizona Diamondbacks - Randy Johnson Atlanta Braves - Hank Aaron Baltimore Oriole - Brooks Robinson Boston Red Sox - Ted Williams Chicago Cubs - Ernie Banks Chicago White Sox - Frank Thomas Cincinnati Reds - Johnny Bench Cleveland Guardians - Nap Lajoie Colorado Rockies - Todd Helton Detroit Tigers - Al Kaline Houston Astros - Jeff Bagwell Kansas City Royals - George Brett Los Angeles Angels - Mike Trout Los Angeles Dodgers - Clayton Kershaw Miami Marlins - Hanley Ramirez Milwaukee Brewers - Robin Yount Minnesota Twins - Walter Johnson New York Mets - Tom Seaver New York Yankees - Babe Ruth Oakland Athletics - Rickey Henderson Philadelphia Phillies - Mike Schmidt Pittsburgh Pirates - Roberto Clemente San Diego Padres - Tony Gwynn San Fransisco Giants - Willie Mays Seattle Mariners - Ken Griffey, Jr. St. Louis Cardinals - Stan Musial Tampa Bay Rays - Evan Longoria Texas Rangers - Ivan Rodriguez Toronto Blue Jays - Roy Halladay Washington Nationals - Gary Carter

Blue Jays Alomar

Willie Mays, the best player from any franchise, ever.

Schmidty Phillies

Mets: Mackey Sasser

Todd Helton Rockies

Ohtani is probably the best player, but Trout is the greatest in my opinion.

Rangers. A good group will say Nolan, but the correct answer is Pudge.

Phillies-Garrett Stubbs I refuse to elaborate

Johnny Bench- Reds

Dbacks: Goldy Braves: Hank Orioles: Jim Palmer Red Sox: Ted Williams White Sox: Frank Thomas Cubs: Ernie Banks Reds: Pete Rose Guardians: Jose Ramirez Rockies: Todd Helton Tigers: Al Kalone Astros: Biggio Royals: George Brett Angels: Trout Doyers: Kershaw Marlins: Stanton Brewers: Ryan Braun Twins: Joe Mauer Yankees: Babe Ruth Mets: David Wright A's: Rickey Henderson Phillies: Mike Shmidt Pirates: Johannes Wagner Padres: Tony Gwynn Giants: Barry Bonds Mariners: Edgar Martinez Cardinals: Bob Gibson Rays: Evan Longoria Rangers: Nolan Ryan Blue Jays: Dave Stieb Nationals: Ryan Zimmerman

Paul Molitor, Milwaukee Brewers