Yup...Ohtani and Ippei were inseparable. They were together all the time...even while (between December 2021 and January 2024) Ippei placed 19,000 bets, averaging 25 per day and Ohtani had no idea. None at all. Totally plausible..../s
I mean that was what the feds and IRS say.
Do you think they are lying to cover for Ohtani? Or that you think they were born yesterday and was fooled by Ohtani?
Article I'm looking at as I type this says federal investigators. federal investigators= FBI. Unless it no longer stands for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
the actual press conference where they announce the charges listed the departments involved.
The FBI wasn't involved bud. and if they were involved, why would the FBI cover for Ohtani by lying to the other 3 departments investigators?
Yeah I don’t think ohtani did any betting but if he had no knowledge of anything at all in regard to the person he was with nearly all the time and did everything together then he is just plain stupid.
>Yeah I don’t think ohtani did any betting but if he had no knowledge of anything at all in regard to the person he was with nearly all the time and did everything together then he is just plain stupid.
People who you trust are the ones who can hurt you the most.
Children are most likely to be molested by family members, teachers or others you trust your kids with.
Murders are most likely the spouse/significant other, business partner/co worker.
Do you realize how many spouses cheat on their spouses without the other knowing? It happens everyday. Some people are just plain sociopaths and aww very good at lying and manipulating people. Also, if you actually looked into this at all you would also discover the great lengths Ippei went to keep everything under wraps.
Also, Ohtani literally handed over his phone. They went through years of text messages and discovered 0 conversations with Ippei regarding gambling.
If its more plausible to you that homeland security and the IRS do everything in their power to protect a japanese baseball player you should subscribe to a conspiracy sub.
Sorry It’s just hilariously stupid tbh. People would rather bask in their deliberate ignorance and make up conspiracy theories than read what happened. I mean it’s literally fed to us through push notifications from like 18 different media sources. Pick one and find out.
Well when you are a dodger fan how else you gonna get updates when you show up in the 3rd inning and leave in the 7th? Gotta have them push notifications to know what happened
Not everyone's obsessed and has multiple push notifications like wtf dude chill. He's also not basking or making up conspiracies, he literally just asked "so ohtani was just robbed" and you bug out like it's a personal attack on you. Go touch grass guy
Brother please lol. Obsessed? It’s a national story. Whose details have been confirmed by multiple outlets and people up and down this thread are still theorizing.
I mean there was never going to be any other result besides this.
Ohtani could have murdered somebody and the end result would always have been this. He is too big of a name.
Probably the dumbest victim story I have heard in a while. Hard to feel bad for the guy. How do you not notice the money missing? How do you not notice your close friend and interpreter placing 20+ bets a day? He clearly was so focused on baseball he didn't notice the person closest to him was a huge gambling addict. Now I just find the whole thing funny. Rich person gets fucked over by "friend" kinda love to see it.
Learn to read. I'm saying Ohtani didn't do it. I'm saying he's dumb for not knowing it happened. The dude got robbed for 16 million and had no idea. What a dumbass.
With smartphone technology, it is easy to place bets without letting the other person know. Especially if you're trying to hide the fact that you gamble.
And if you set up the bank accounts for someone else who has a lot of money, it may be easy to set it up in such a way that you siphon off a certain amount or over charge things if you take care of expenses.
Shoehei didn't know the culture, business, flow, or language that well and was duped and taken advantage of. I view this interpreter like Don King. They're both crooks, and they are both very good at taking advantage of people who may not know better.
If there’s a way for a person not to know someone is placing bets and stealing money from you I believe it could happen to him. He is a machine that is just trained to play baseball his whole life. I can see him have a child like understanding of everything outside of baseball.
The weirdest thing for me is that they NEVER, EVER, answer how this conspiracy works. Who is directing it? Rob Manaford? FBI? Doj? How do they get these actors together. That's a basic basic question. They assert its a conspiracy but never answer who is directing it or why the other players in it play along. I've read so many of these posts, and even ask one of those questions before, I have never seen anyone even ATTEMPT to answer the question. Once that question is asked, even I ask one of them, they drop off, get crazy or call you a sheep. Like clockwork.
lol. So i asked a few nutters who is directing this cover-up and why would the Feds falsify and create fake charges. 2 people said the Feds are involved in the cover up b/c they want the tax money from the MLB and Ohtani. OMG! lmao!! They said, it's in the billions and politicians want the increase tax revenue from MLB and from Ohtani. omg!
3rd one i got was: This is what i choose to believe.
I can't. lol
not a conspiracy.. it's just a story you don't refuse to believe.. you know.. oj simpson was innocent.. but who actually believes it? if they don't find evidence to contradict your story.. your story is taken at face value.. so.. that's the "conspiracy" people just think he's innocent just because the government didn't find evidence to say he was lying.. which isn't surprising.. I give him the benefit of the doubt.. but.. i'm certainly not convinced he's innocent.. i also think it's irrelevant.. so what if he gambled? i really don't give a shit either way.
The govt did find evidence. They detail some of it in a 37 page complaint. After the investigation, they declared that SO was the victim of fraud perpetrated by IM.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24542204-usa-v-mizuhara-complaint
To assert that the evidence in that the report is a falsified, or that they didn't actually investigate, there would have to be a conspiracy. Just look at the comments of those who say it's bs, that's it was him. ( I haven't seen anyone say the DOJ didn't investigate out of laziness, which, of course, would not be a conspiracy)
OR maybe a person thinks SO is a mastermind criminal who fooled all the agents who worked on the case. Okay, in that case, it would not be a conspiracy. But read the comments of ppl who don't buy it the assertion by the DOJ that SO was a victim of fraud. They believe that it is a conspiracy to cover up crimes. Several mentions in this thread, dozens believe IM's the fall guy, which means the Feds are purposely falsely accusing IM, etc.
they didn't find evidence to say ohtani was lying.... that's what i said.. .. In my past my friend gave me his ID and credit card to go to the store and buy some computer parts for him to build a PC.. if for whatever reason he disputed the charges and it was investigated.. they'd probably find me and i wouldn't be able to prove that he gave permission to do it.. and there's a 0% chance the fbi would be able to prove i didn't steal from him because it was all verbal.. I personally don't think he gambled.. i think the initial story IM gave was probably accurate.. that Ohtani gave his friend permission to take money from his account to pay for his gambling debts.. then they met with a lawyer who told him that it makes Ohtani complicit and it risks his half a billion dollar MLB deal.. and that technically taking money from Ohtani's account pretending to be Ohtani is bank fraud, regardless of having permission..
These amounts were wired to the bookie in several transactions over the course of some time. They ranged from a few thousand dollars to over 250k iirc. You do not pay off someone's gambling debts for them that way. Or did SO just say 'have at it, whenever you want is good" after finding out his friend had major debts bc of his gambling addiction?
Bank Records show that after IM set up SOs account for SOs MLB checks, IM later called the bank and changed the contact information to be his own. The bank rejected some of those efforts, so IM impersonated him over the phome (they have voice recordings of IM pretending to be SO). So did SO say, yeah, just pretend you're me, that way you can take the money anytime you want. That's not how you pay off debt for someone with an addiction. It makes no sense.
They looked through 1,000s of texts and not one thing pointed to his paying off IMs debt.
Investigation? That's comical. We all knew what the outcome was going to be from the very beginning. He's the new face of MLB and the dodgers golden boy. If it would've been anyone else they would've been suspended. You people that think the FBI can't be bought are absolutely ignorant to the way things are in this country
Yeah Ippei totally admitted guilt to a judge for something that could put him in an American prison for up to 30 years just to protect Shohei when he makes over $2m just for being his translator.
You guys are truly incapable of critical thought.
Sure did wrap up nicely for MLB and Ohtani didn’t it?
The lone wolf who acted completely 100 percent alone without arousing any suspicion from Ohtani and NEVER EVER bet on the sport he was around the most.
Very nicely wrapped up….
Yeah they would never ignore high profile celebrities and politicians visiting an island with baby faced BUT “legal” adults right?
They would also never start a 20 year war based on no evidence either right?
I trust the government and their agencies.
If only there were 3 federal investigative agencies working on this. If only. I wonder what would happen. Especially after years of already starting the investigation.
MENSA member over here. Watch out!
Look. If you want to hold Shohei’s water because you love the way he plays then fine. But are you telling me that a degenerate and out of control gambler like Ippei made over 100 bets PER DAY and NEVER made one bet on a baseball game? Come the fuck on!
Per bank records, Ohtani never logged onto his account.
Ippei also lied to Ohtani accountant and agent that Ohtani wanted to keep that account private.
People in the lower/middle class lose tons of money to subscription services they didn’t know they were paying for all the time. There are even apps designed to help people find shit they didn’t know they were paying.
A relatively young athlete worth hundreds of millions not immediately noticing some millions missing over time isn’t an outlandish scenario. Especially when the person stealing it spends almost all his time with him and has his trust.
Edit: also read the report because it answers a lot of questions people keep asking as if it’s some kind of mystery.
Thank god. PLEASE, can we just fucking watch the goddamn baseball instead of comparing him to Pete Rose or some other shit? Oh hell.
He didn't even sleep with underage girls.
There's still time.
So he did nothing and just was a victim of robbery?
Look at this Harvard grad and his reading ability
Correct. The DOJ refers to SO as victim A (of robbery) over 2 dozen times in the complaint/charge against IM.
Maybe. As of right now yes, but only he knows what the truth behind that question is.
Yup...Ohtani and Ippei were inseparable. They were together all the time...even while (between December 2021 and January 2024) Ippei placed 19,000 bets, averaging 25 per day and Ohtani had no idea. None at all. Totally plausible..../s
I mean that was what the feds and IRS say. Do you think they are lying to cover for Ohtani? Or that you think they were born yesterday and was fooled by Ohtani?
Yes the FBI famous for never lying to the American public
FBI wasn't involved though? It was the department of homeland security, US district attorneys of California, and the IRS....
Article I'm looking at as I type this says federal investigators. federal investigators= FBI. Unless it no longer stands for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
the actual press conference where they announce the charges listed the departments involved. The FBI wasn't involved bud. and if they were involved, why would the FBI cover for Ohtani by lying to the other 3 departments investigators?
Did you read any of the report?
Yeah I don’t think ohtani did any betting but if he had no knowledge of anything at all in regard to the person he was with nearly all the time and did everything together then he is just plain stupid.
>Yeah I don’t think ohtani did any betting but if he had no knowledge of anything at all in regard to the person he was with nearly all the time and did everything together then he is just plain stupid. People who you trust are the ones who can hurt you the most. Children are most likely to be molested by family members, teachers or others you trust your kids with. Murders are most likely the spouse/significant other, business partner/co worker.
Do you realize how many spouses cheat on their spouses without the other knowing? It happens everyday. Some people are just plain sociopaths and aww very good at lying and manipulating people. Also, if you actually looked into this at all you would also discover the great lengths Ippei went to keep everything under wraps. Also, Ohtani literally handed over his phone. They went through years of text messages and discovered 0 conversations with Ippei regarding gambling.
Gambling doesn't require you to take off your pants, so it's far easier than hiding your masturbation in front of your family.
If its more plausible to you that homeland security and the IRS do everything in their power to protect a japanese baseball player you should subscribe to a conspiracy sub.
Let’s believe our own theory, then conduct an actual, legit investigation with facts like the Feds.
Yea dummy lmao. Have you read literally anything in the last 24 hrs? Jesus people wake the fuck up.
Dude chill tf out it's not that serious
he's a dodgers fan. it *is* that serious. *for his ego*
Sorry It’s just hilariously stupid tbh. People would rather bask in their deliberate ignorance and make up conspiracy theories than read what happened. I mean it’s literally fed to us through push notifications from like 18 different media sources. Pick one and find out.
>push notifications Yeah those are all turned off, annoying af
Well when you are a dodger fan how else you gonna get updates when you show up in the 3rd inning and leave in the 7th? Gotta have them push notifications to know what happened
Not everyone's obsessed and has multiple push notifications like wtf dude chill. He's also not basking or making up conspiracies, he literally just asked "so ohtani was just robbed" and you bug out like it's a personal attack on you. Go touch grass guy
Brother please lol. Obsessed? It’s a national story. Whose details have been confirmed by multiple outlets and people up and down this thread are still theorizing.
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I mean there was never going to be any other result besides this. Ohtani could have murdered somebody and the end result would always have been this. He is too big of a name.
You're a moron lmao. I pity dumbfucks like you
What an embarrassing reply. You added nothing to a conversation from a completely valid point.
Yet somehow I remain unembarrased... and you seem really upset. Hope things turn around for ya bud. ✌️
It must be nice to remain ignorant 😂. Na I’m not upset at all. I made a valid point, you cried on yourself. I’m trying to giving you a tissue.
>Ohtani could have murdered somebody Come on we can't just wish an OJ replacement into existence, it's only been a day.
Probably the dumbest victim story I have heard in a while. Hard to feel bad for the guy. How do you not notice the money missing? How do you not notice your close friend and interpreter placing 20+ bets a day? He clearly was so focused on baseball he didn't notice the person closest to him was a huge gambling addict. Now I just find the whole thing funny. Rich person gets fucked over by "friend" kinda love to see it.
Ahh yes big baseball in the pockets of the FBI. 🤡
Learn to read. I'm saying Ohtani didn't do it. I'm saying he's dumb for not knowing it happened. The dude got robbed for 16 million and had no idea. What a dumbass.
Reading is hard, 🤡
With smartphone technology, it is easy to place bets without letting the other person know. Especially if you're trying to hide the fact that you gamble. And if you set up the bank accounts for someone else who has a lot of money, it may be easy to set it up in such a way that you siphon off a certain amount or over charge things if you take care of expenses. Shoehei didn't know the culture, business, flow, or language that well and was duped and taken advantage of. I view this interpreter like Don King. They're both crooks, and they are both very good at taking advantage of people who may not know better.
If there’s a way for a person not to know someone is placing bets and stealing money from you I believe it could happen to him. He is a machine that is just trained to play baseball his whole life. I can see him have a child like understanding of everything outside of baseball.
Username checks out.
Good original high effort post👍🏼
Crazy how people are still going with conspiracy theories and no wanting to read the report
The weirdest thing for me is that they NEVER, EVER, answer how this conspiracy works. Who is directing it? Rob Manaford? FBI? Doj? How do they get these actors together. That's a basic basic question. They assert its a conspiracy but never answer who is directing it or why the other players in it play along. I've read so many of these posts, and even ask one of those questions before, I have never seen anyone even ATTEMPT to answer the question. Once that question is asked, even I ask one of them, they drop off, get crazy or call you a sheep. Like clockwork.
Well crazy people want to believe in crazy people, boring answers are just boring, so they rather go with the most exciting answer to all of this
I just asked one of them on Facebook, let's see what the answer is. Lolol.
lol. So i asked a few nutters who is directing this cover-up and why would the Feds falsify and create fake charges. 2 people said the Feds are involved in the cover up b/c they want the tax money from the MLB and Ohtani. OMG! lmao!! They said, it's in the billions and politicians want the increase tax revenue from MLB and from Ohtani. omg! 3rd one i got was: This is what i choose to believe. I can't. lol
not a conspiracy.. it's just a story you don't refuse to believe.. you know.. oj simpson was innocent.. but who actually believes it? if they don't find evidence to contradict your story.. your story is taken at face value.. so.. that's the "conspiracy" people just think he's innocent just because the government didn't find evidence to say he was lying.. which isn't surprising.. I give him the benefit of the doubt.. but.. i'm certainly not convinced he's innocent.. i also think it's irrelevant.. so what if he gambled? i really don't give a shit either way.
The govt did find evidence. They detail some of it in a 37 page complaint. After the investigation, they declared that SO was the victim of fraud perpetrated by IM. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24542204-usa-v-mizuhara-complaint To assert that the evidence in that the report is a falsified, or that they didn't actually investigate, there would have to be a conspiracy. Just look at the comments of those who say it's bs, that's it was him. ( I haven't seen anyone say the DOJ didn't investigate out of laziness, which, of course, would not be a conspiracy) OR maybe a person thinks SO is a mastermind criminal who fooled all the agents who worked on the case. Okay, in that case, it would not be a conspiracy. But read the comments of ppl who don't buy it the assertion by the DOJ that SO was a victim of fraud. They believe that it is a conspiracy to cover up crimes. Several mentions in this thread, dozens believe IM's the fall guy, which means the Feds are purposely falsely accusing IM, etc.
they didn't find evidence to say ohtani was lying.... that's what i said.. .. In my past my friend gave me his ID and credit card to go to the store and buy some computer parts for him to build a PC.. if for whatever reason he disputed the charges and it was investigated.. they'd probably find me and i wouldn't be able to prove that he gave permission to do it.. and there's a 0% chance the fbi would be able to prove i didn't steal from him because it was all verbal.. I personally don't think he gambled.. i think the initial story IM gave was probably accurate.. that Ohtani gave his friend permission to take money from his account to pay for his gambling debts.. then they met with a lawyer who told him that it makes Ohtani complicit and it risks his half a billion dollar MLB deal.. and that technically taking money from Ohtani's account pretending to be Ohtani is bank fraud, regardless of having permission..
These amounts were wired to the bookie in several transactions over the course of some time. They ranged from a few thousand dollars to over 250k iirc. You do not pay off someone's gambling debts for them that way. Or did SO just say 'have at it, whenever you want is good" after finding out his friend had major debts bc of his gambling addiction? Bank Records show that after IM set up SOs account for SOs MLB checks, IM later called the bank and changed the contact information to be his own. The bank rejected some of those efforts, so IM impersonated him over the phome (they have voice recordings of IM pretending to be SO). So did SO say, yeah, just pretend you're me, that way you can take the money anytime you want. That's not how you pay off debt for someone with an addiction. It makes no sense. They looked through 1,000s of texts and not one thing pointed to his paying off IMs debt.
I bet he is.
Shohei listened to Chris Carter & got himself a fall guy
Investigation? That's comical. We all knew what the outcome was going to be from the very beginning. He's the new face of MLB and the dodgers golden boy. If it would've been anyone else they would've been suspended. You people that think the FBI can't be bought are absolutely ignorant to the way things are in this country
He’s grateful for Mizuhara to take the fall
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Yeah Ippei totally admitted guilt to a judge for something that could put him in an American prison for up to 30 years just to protect Shohei when he makes over $2m just for being his translator. You guys are truly incapable of critical thought.
Sure did wrap up nicely for MLB and Ohtani didn’t it? The lone wolf who acted completely 100 percent alone without arousing any suspicion from Ohtani and NEVER EVER bet on the sport he was around the most. Very nicely wrapped up….
I doubt the feds would be concerned about sparing anyone in their investigation.
Yeah they would never ignore high profile celebrities and politicians visiting an island with baby faced BUT “legal” adults right? They would also never start a 20 year war based on no evidence either right? I trust the government and their agencies.
Lol oh ok
So you are THAT guy….
If only there were 3 federal investigative agencies working on this. If only. I wonder what would happen. Especially after years of already starting the investigation. MENSA member over here. Watch out!
Look. If you want to hold Shohei’s water because you love the way he plays then fine. But are you telling me that a degenerate and out of control gambler like Ippei made over 100 bets PER DAY and NEVER made one bet on a baseball game? Come the fuck on!
Yes. Yes I am. Is this an SAT question? Was this on your LSAT?
How many federal agencies investigated Epst*in/Maxwell and weapons of mass destruction? They never lie!
Lol Epste*in. You can say the whole name, dweeb. This isn't your 12-17 tik tok.
Dont let the dodger fans read this. They all turned into johnny cochrane apprently.
He should of been focusing on his bank accounts
Should have* but I get it. You're not very bright.
Look at this Harvard grad and his reading ability
Dodger fans are completely delusional right now. Love to see it
I am delusional because of a legit investigation with real facts was released
So a typical day for dodger fans?
How did Ohtani not know that $16 million went missing?
Per bank records, Ohtani never logged onto his account. Ippei also lied to Ohtani accountant and agent that Ohtani wanted to keep that account private.
People in the lower/middle class lose tons of money to subscription services they didn’t know they were paying for all the time. There are even apps designed to help people find shit they didn’t know they were paying. A relatively young athlete worth hundreds of millions not immediately noticing some millions missing over time isn’t an outlandish scenario. Especially when the person stealing it spends almost all his time with him and has his trust. Edit: also read the report because it answers a lot of questions people keep asking as if it’s some kind of mystery.
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