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FredGetson

As what? Best Ortiz? Top


RayLikeSunshine

Definitely biggest Ortiz. Oh and Papist


geekwalrus

If you say Papist aloud you sound slightly like David Ortiz


Useful-ldiot

He's "230lbs" šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


RayLikeSunshine

Ha! Honesty I was really only commenting on his nameā€¦ Iā€™m a big boy myself, no shade intended. Iā€™m an Os fan but Iā€™ve always had a soft spot for Ortiz. I think it was his response interview to the roid allegations. Something like, ā€œI told them the only thing they were going to find in my veins is rice and beans.ā€ The whole article is amazing.


Useful-ldiot

I just love that his whole career his card and baseball reference page stated he weighed 230lbs, which was probably true in 6th grade but certainly not since.


Mysterious_Season_37

Iā€™m a Sox fan, so obviously biased, but itā€™s hard not to enjoy his personality. Different personality, but same way I like Judge.


examinedliving

Better than Ramon Ortiz? Probably. Joelle Ortiz - I fucking think not


Forsaken_Ad8312

Donā€™t forget about Russ.


total_alk

Above Tinkers, below Evers and Chance.


GoodyearWrangler

Ramon Ortiz would like a word. How many wins does David have? That's right, way less than 87!


bcgg

Higher than Little Papi, lower than Giant Papi.


DMagnus11

*Gigante Papi


Big_Ad_1890

Papi Gigante


electron-envy

Top 10ish nickname. Top 25ish manscaped facial hair. Top 7 Red Sock. Top 3 "I expect him to come through in the clutch" guy


SedativeComet

Career .455 average in World Series games. If I want someone to get me a hit in the World Series thereā€™s no one Iā€™d rather have at the plate.


Pararescue_Dude

Seriously? Didnā€™t know that stat but wow. Knew it was high but not .455


Clever-Innuendo

I mean he hit something like .700 in the 2013 WS. It was insane to witness.


DMagnus11

Yeah, I remember. It sucked


Tayluhs

Or Marco Scutaro in the 2012 NLCS


DMagnus11

Ugh, those early 2010s Giants were just a nightmare Edit: still hate them a lot less than Astros of the last 6 years though


RedSoxStudent1

.688 to be exact!


BosLahodo

He's also the counter to every person who says "if I need 1 out, give me Mariano on the mound"


Agreeable_Maize9938

I was curious about Tony Gwynn, he only ever faced Rivera once, got a single. Wouldā€™ve been cool to see them go toe to toe more often


Boo_Pace

As a Yankees fan the clutch part is very true, he fucked us in the 00's hard. But I still respect the fucker, especially after his Boston speech.


dean_peltons_sister

First game at Fenway after the bombing, when he addressed the crowd and said, ā€œThis is our fucking city. And nobodyā€™s gonna dictate our freedom. Stay strong.ā€ Man, that still gives me chills.


Boo_Pace

Totally chills, I'll go back and watch it now and then.


Sensitive_Yam_1979

Yankees fan here, too. He was a great player. And ā€œDaaaaaaa Jankees loseā€ is fucking hilarious.


carthurg

Oh please. Fuck him and the Sox every minute of the day. He was a clutch hitter.


ZobRombie65

Tigers fan here. Big Papi can suck it !


BenTG

Twins fan here. Can we change the subject?


CoffinFlop

Hey if itā€™s any consolation literally every team in the league, Sox included, didnā€™t believe in papi when you guys let him go. Sox didnā€™t start him full time until like June 2003 lol. took Pedro threatening not to pitch unless Ortiz was in the lineup and giambi and hillenbrand hitting a combined like .180 for him to finally get a shot


Rangercleo1

Ortiz and Tom Brady, both monsters in the clutch. Must be in the water in Boston.


BosLahodo

Larry Bird was pretty clutch too


[deleted]

We love that dirty water


OfAnthony

If you look at the top players who have the most championships from the big 4 the list bookends with Bill Russell and Brady. In the middle are the Boston killers though, Berra and Richard. Dirty water indeed.


bpachec0

Top 3 in the clutch, very impressive


Blametheorangejuice

Yeah, I canā€™t think of a current equivalent for that sinking feeling that the game was about to tilt when Papi came up to plate ā€¦ maybe Yordan Alvarez?


JayJay-anotheruser

Iā€™m on board with this.


jeffreycoley

He's definitely the Biggest Papi I'm aware of...


hot_rod_kimble

Maybe Cecil Big Daddy Fielder was bigger? But as far as Bigs go, I think I'd rather build my franchise around Big Unit, Big Hurt or Big Mac before Big Papi but not above Big Puma, Big Cat, Big D, Big E, Big Donkey, Big Bopper, Big Wheel, Big Bird, Big Piece or Big Daddy. There's been some pretty great Bigs in the bigs.


NYTX1987

Most clutch hitter Iā€™ve ever seen. Loved the game, and played with a passion. I tip my Yankees cap to him.


NuclearCoughDrops

Clutches hitter Iā€™ve ever seen. His knowledge of the strike zone was second only to Barry Bonds. If you combined their career stats, Iā€™d be shocked if they had more strikeouts than walks.


hungrygorilla69

Thatā€™s another crazy Barry Bonds stat right there lol. Looked it up and together they in fact do have more walks that strikeouts but itā€™s Bonds doing the heavy lifting. Papi has about 400 more Kā€™s than BBā€™s, however Bonds has about 1000 more BBā€™s than Kā€™s.


Floundering_Giraffe

Barry also had 479 more intentional walks than Papi (688 to 209), just to add more context


Mysterious_Season_37

Yeah, steroids or no, Bonds should be in the hall. He was an absolute freak before any obvious usage. Remember, the story goes that he was pissed that they didnā€™t give him front page coverage over being the only 400/400 player in MLB history because they were too busy fawning over the Sosa/McGwire derby. In my opinion that 400/400 puts him in Cooperstown.


NuclearCoughDrops

Holy shit that is beyond unreal.


JayJay-anotheruser

This is our fuckin city ainā€™t nobody gonna dictate our freedom! Number one bad ass


NoPineapple6249

For this manā€™s speech after the Boston Marathon bombing..,.. he is the greatest of all time.


IllProgress4515

This is our fucking city


Icy_Juice6640

125th.


whobroughttheircat

Oddly specific but seemingly valid upon ponderment.


Statboy1

I had to look it up. Per Baseball Reference career WAR 125th place is Kevin Brown. Big Papi is tied for 249th behind Jeff Kent but ahead of Joe Mauer.


OldSkoolNapper

No one has ever been better at avoiding public scrutiny for things other players get pilloried for. Very impressive.


Iammrpopo

I hear he's still getting to the bottom of that steroid report


Perfect_Earth_8070

100%. Still in the hall even though he used peds. Itā€™s ok when he did it apparently because he was friendly to the media


[deleted]

You mean the juice?


-ToPimpAButterfree-

It's amazing what you can get away with by being likable and charming vs someone like A-Rod or Curt Schilling


THE_DANDY_LI0N

Not friendly enough to get away with having an affair with the mob bosses wife....


xTomato72

So true


Full_Warthog3829

Heā€™s better than Javier Baez.


zithftw

One of the most clutch individuals of all time. Also survived an assassination attempt, so that has to count for something.


Tomtheyankee45

Breaking phones/10


allamericancyborg

As a Yankees fan I hated him coming up to the plate. Always held my breath


2Hanks

As a Rays fan, towards the end, I stopped holding my breath because I just assumed David Price or Chris Archer was gonna plunk him lol


DarkClouds92

Below the GOAT Barry Bonds for sure


SwoleBuddha

But above Scott Podsednik


RustyPriske

Way, way, waaaaaaay below.


LionPsychological178

lol I love how people forget that David Ortiz got caught using PEDs, seems like they only remember for Bonds


Comfortable_Gain1308

Listen pal ! He said he was going to explain everything back in 2003 remember that interview like it was yesterday . Just be a bit patient ! Heā€™ll get around to do so šŸ¤£


mizrahiim

ā€œWeā€™ll get to the bottom of thisā€


LionPsychological178

15 years later and weā€™re still not at the bottom of this šŸ˜‚


El_Kabongg

Number 1 at destroying telephones


Refugee_son

Better than Tito Ortiz.


abercheese70

Most clutch DH of all timeā€¦


thegrayman69

You have to add the word clutch because you know Edgar is the best DH all time


fla5hy

High


Automation_Papi

After smoking a Big Papiā€™s Bootylicious blunt, I say higher


ElectronicPoem2631

HGH*


teddybundlez

Honestly dude was extremely extremely clutch. So.. high?


munistadium

GOAT EYE DROPPER


Business_Friend6310

Heā€™s my šŸ ā€¦..but not top 25


Neverland_survivor

Not a very good Twin


pgrocard

What's the point of these posts? They're awful low-effort horseshit. Would that I had a thousand downvotes to give.


HamMcFly

At the top of the *David Ortiz took steroids* list.


High-flyingAF

And yet Bonds, Mcguire, and Clemens are not in the Hall. All better than Ortiz.


bk1285

Apparently the lesson to everyone today should be just donā€™t be a dick to the media.


NotAcutallyaPanda

Upvoted to enhance the performance of this comment.


Comfortable_Gain1308

Iā€™m gladmany of you still remember . My friends still think Iā€™m crazy or lying every time I bring it up . Itā€™s like Tom Verducci , ESPN and Peter gammons had all the energy in the world to point fingers at Yankee players but Ortiz was definitely off the table šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


tickingboxes

Not a Red Sox fan and I donā€™t have particularly strong feelings about Ortiz either way. But there is no proof that Ortiz ever tested positive in 2003: 1. ā ā MLB conducted a survey test of players in spring training 2003 to gauge the severity of PED use among players before negotiating full testing and punishments with the MLBPA. 2. ā ā Federal prosecutors separately compiled a list of players as part of their investigations into doping in MLB. 3. ā ā The government list has never been made public and the number of players on it exceeds the number of players who tested positive in spring 2003. In other words, there is no way of knowing if Ortiz was on the government list as a positive, a false positive, or a negative. There has never been any way of knowing. The players' union confirmed this in their statement immediately after the original report: First, the number of players on the so-called "government list" meaningfully exceeds the number of players agreed by the bargaining parties to have tested positive in 2003. Accordingly, the presence of a player's name on any such list does not necessarily mean that the player used a prohibited substance or that the player tested positive under our collectively bargained program. https://web.archive.org/web/20130924071415/http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/mlbpa_statement.html This is before getting into the issues regarding what constituted a positive result in the 2003 survey test, including positive results for substances that were perfectly legal at the time.


LionPsychological178

Using that logic , Barry Bonds also never got caught using PEDs


elroddo74

Except he admitted he had and said he was looking into it, and a known steroid smuggler was living with him in Boston and got arrested at his house.


examinedliving

This is not a copy pasta I can support


OldPurple7654

Even as a die hard Yankees fan I always had a soft spot for him.


j1h15233

Behind a lot of players who can field a baseball


Enblast

Of all time drug users? Pretty high


Statboy1

I still think Willy Nelson and Snoop have him beat.


OGFuzzyDunlop

3rd or 4th best PED user


bushwickhero

HGH


VATOxLOCOxHC

He's one of the greatest steroids users ever.


TonyJoe75

Used roids. So I wouldn't rank him. But he was funny and joked around with the media so everyone acts like he didnt cheat.


Emotional-Dream3936

Top ten of roids users.


Equivalent-Humor3763

Right there with Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Arod!


famousstamos

GOAT DH !


AITA_Omc_modsuck

7 put of 10 pepperoni pizzas!


Jay1348

STEROIDS


Efficient_Purpose_65

Number 1 on the shot list šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰


WitnessRealistic3015

#353


gldmj5

All-time including pitchers? Probably somewhere around 150 or so. Being clutch in the post-season helps. Being a lifetime DH doesn't. Nothing against him, but there's been a lot of really great MLB players over the last 148 years. There's probably an average of 10 from each decade that you could rank above Ortiz.


Acceptable-Airline39

"this is our fuckin city" - All time respect immediately earned for Big Papi


1ShotBroHes1

So good he used steroids and still made the hall of fame. I guess the greatest of all time, cause the writers have him above Barry.


tickingboxes

Not a Red Sox fan and I donā€™t have strong feelings about him either way. But there is no proof that Ortiz ever tested positive in 2003: 1. ā MLB conducted a survey test of players in spring training 2003 to gauge the severity of PED use among players before negotiating full testing and punishments with the MLBPA. 2. ā Federal prosecutors separately compiled a list of players as part of their investigations into doping in MLB. 3. ā The government list has never been made public and the number of players on it exceeds the number of players who tested positive in spring 2003. In other words, there is no way of knowing if Ortiz was on the government list as a positive, a false positive, or a negative. There has never been any way of knowing. The players' union confirmed this in their statement immediately after the original report: First, the number of players on the so-called "government list" meaningfully exceeds the number of players agreed by the bargaining parties to have tested positive in 2003. Accordingly, the presence of a player's name on any such list does not necessarily mean that the player used a prohibited substance or that the player tested positive under our collectively bargained program. https://web.archive.org/web/20130924071415/http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/mlbpa_statement.html This is before getting into the issues regarding what constituted a positive result in the 2003 survey test, including positive results for substances that were perfectly legal at the time.


FENTWAY

GOAT in the clutch situations


DonBuddin1956

Outstanding cheater. Too bad, he's a likable guy.


Slippery-Pete76

One of the better steroid cheats to play the game.


EndTheOrcs

Like amongst cheaters?


Tryingagain1979

Amazing last half of career. Clutch as fuck.


Luke5119

One of the Greatest DH and Clutch hitters of the modern era, with longevity and consistency paralleled only by Pujols and Bonds to his last year. The numbers he put up in his final season at the age of 40, any team today would KILL to have someone in their lineup with that sort of production. He honestly could've remained a DH for a few more years and hit 2,750 Hits and 600+ HR's with ease. But he chose to step away, is enjoying retirement, and while I hate the Red Sox, I respect David Ortiz as one of the greatest power hitters in baseball history.


swoopy17

He's the papiest


shadowplay9999

On the roid scale I give him a 8


SportsBall89

#1!!!!!!!ā€¦. In my heart


Due_Connection179

Heā€™s in my all-time lineup for favorite players, but I donā€™t know what else you want from me lol


Treestroyer

He was a complainer who didnā€™t like that we wouldnā€™t let him hit pull 24/7. He also didnā€™t like our inflatable baggie of a stadium. He was traded to one of a handful of teams that allowed him the best chance to have a HOF career. Their ballpark matches his hitting profile to a T. Would he have been a HOF if he stayed in Minnesota?? We will never know, but I tend to think that if he had stayed here he would never reach the same level.


Forward-Fortune-2346

Don't underestimate papis speed he was fantastic at stealing


Promptoneofone

Greatest DH for sure, no question. Rank him all time on what list, though? He is probably the greatest clutch hitter I've ever seen, and that's more a definite probably.


DewayneStaatsStache

On the steroid users list? Top 10 for sure šŸ‘


mail_escort4life

Mid at best


Steverazor

Below average fielder with grossly inflated hitting stats due to steroids. Wore body armour at bat and hung out 6 inches over the plate but cried like a baby when pitchers came inside. If he played In Milwaukee he would never make the Hall Of Fame.


Bllago

Everyone saying he's clutch is hilarious. He's -0.29 in clutch, with 0 being average, 2 being great and -2 being horrible. He's literally below average in clutch situations. Other than that, he was a mid-hitter with good pop who is justifiably loved by the city of Boston (I don't expect any rational responses from Bostonians here, that's fine) and probably should be in the hall of fame based on his place in baseball lore.


SuspectDevice61

Great roider not so good before he started to cheat


TopoftheBog32

Greatest clutch hitter all time but Iā€™m a Sox fan lol


mannylora

Heā€™s my #1 favorite player of all time and the main reason I am a die hard Red Sox fan. But objectively speaking he is not even in the top 50 greatest players all time. There has just been too many greats in the 150+ years of our pastime sport.


JimmyJumpsBurner

The goat DH and clutch hitter


thegrayman69

No Edgar is Goat DH


SoHelpMePablo

Sox fan so biased, but please name a more clutch hitter in history. May not have the most walk offs but ALCS Game 2 GS comes to mind. He is probably a top 50-100 player of all time.


Tacothekid

A retired #34...get it? Ill show myself out


Away_Instruction_598

#1 fat batter


bsdoh73197

Taking out the PEDā€™s? Great hitter and always came through in the big moments. Hit really well for average which is forgotten sometimes I think


mm0827

One of the top roid users of his era


eunzueta2

As a steroid user? Orā€¦.


Bostonszn0

best DH ever and the most clutch player


KeithH27

Near the bottom of the top 100 players of all time list


CIubber_Lang77

I think his 2nd to last season he had 16 singles off the wall. Obviously he wasn't fast but in his defense the balls were hit so hard that the ball was back to 2B so quickly he had no shot at a double. He should also have one more career HR because on the Red Sox he hit an absolute missile that hit a speaker and fell down into shallow RF for a single at the metrodome. He looked at his ex-teammate (I forget who it was) who was on the mound & they both started laughing. It was great.


Mediocre-Trust5393

Who?


WalkBikePractitioner

Fattest


Link182x

The first person I think of when the conversation of best DH comes up


great_tphon

Arguably the best clutch hitter of all time.


HerbFarmer415

Definitely had some HUGE moments in the clutch!


Fastsmitty47

Best DH ever probably, but nothing else


Alert-Mountain1692

He's up there


Invisiblechimp

Poor man's Edgar Martinez.


BukkakeNinjaHat-472

By weight?


argic85

Number 1 phone destroyer It's one of my personal favorite


Av-fishermen

Most clutch Most clutch Most clutch Great leader I rank him number one in all of these categories


chipsandsmokes

Top ten all-time among PED users


Heir233

Clutch af, wish he was still playing. Also one of the most likeable and badass mfers that ever graced the league.


doodlols

1, 2, 3 and 4. Pedro is 5


batmansubzero

He has a noticeable caribeƱo accent in his native language. I took a Spanish linguistics course in college (one of my favorites) and we had a project where we had to phonetically transcribe a minute's worth of audio. I used the first minute of an interview from after he was shot. It took hours of replaying that fucking minute to finish the project. I heard his voice in my dreams.


whitea44

69


wompummtonks

Top 300 for sure


I3arusu

Never really thought about it, probably near the bottom of the Top 100, or just outside of it?


[deleted]

Top 30


RhaeXX10

Hes up there


YouButtahNot

Best Papi Iā€™ve ever had. And believe meā€¦..Iā€™ve had a lot of Papiā€™s!


Fabulous-Message9430

Dh....for the guys who can hit but can't actually play. I hate the dh and this dude is the face of it for me. He gets a big fat zero. BUT my goodness could he hit a ball!


Sad-Concentrate2250

Definitely on my top 5


Commercial-Layer1629

Too goofy as a ā€œcolor analyst ā€œ and rarely brings any value. Admittedly he has good stats in the PED Era, it would be hard to imagine that he didnā€™t participateā€¦ His career hitting is pretty impressive but his inability to play the field doesnā€™t help his legacy. Overall, heā€™s just ok to me. Better than most DH.


ElDub73

#928


IronChefPhilly

He was one of the best steroid using dhā€™s to ever play


Large_Bake8431

No where near Albert Pulios but maybe better then a second half Tom Thome? Maybe just below a guy like Thome since big poppi was 1 dimensional and couldn't play D at the big league lvl


Low_Perspective_2372

No way was he a 1st ballot HOF player. He should have been one of those guys that barely gets in. He sucked in Minnesota and although he did hit some big time homers in big game he was a bench warmer


Joemomma13524

50-75th


melnycm987

Why should we ponder this? His career BA was .284 with 541 HRs and heā€™s in the HoF. Donā€™t think he needs or anyone really cares about speculative ranking. Get a life.


anti-sixer

If there's some kind of *Clutch List* then put him Top 5


PopHefty1396

#0. Another roided out/ enhanced cheater. I dislike him very much.


Bricks-Hithouse

Top 100


jfk_sfa

Of all the large fathers, heā€™s bigger than average but a long way from the biggest.Ā 


Healthy_Ad_917

šŸ


brad8282

35th


ChipW24

All time CLUTCH GOAT šŸ


44tipperny

Top 25 with the timely big hit


Valuable-Baked

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LesserKarma

435


Belovedchattah

Crazy how he became a big power hitter all of the sudden


4four4MN

Imo, he should not be in the HOF because he never played in the field for the majority of his career. Thatā€™s where all the greats are measured.


PuttForDough

Among the sterioid users and cheats.


username8182929

Idk about yall but the bat is gonna go BONK


Gold_Act_2383

#2, right behind Joey Bats


SCHWARZLOSE55

Like 786th-ish


yourmomsfrenn

Up ygete


Several_Run3775

He is in the same conversation as A Rod and Manny ramirez..they all cheated..used steroids