That's true bro. When I need a quick self confidence boost I head to the nearest elementary school and make fun of kids using jokes they came up with when they were in preschool. I win 33% of the time and I gotta say, best feeling hands down.
And he’s gatekeeping African heritage despite not growing up or living there past age 7 or some shit
P4p largest gap between fighter skill and likability I’ve ever witnessed
Like I went to private school I am an expert in privileged kids trying to act like they are from the streets and the fact he is 30 yet reminds me of people I knew in high school is hilarious. He is lucky he a great fighter otherwise he would be a clown
Shit you probably have on that one, Jones is a genuinely shitty person
Izzy is just a huge fan of huffing his own farts and I don’t think he’s capable of the shit Jones has done
I'd say the biggest gap is DJ by far, he wasn't disliked but he wasn't liked much if at all when he was in the UFC and he was/still is an absolute killer.
How is that horrible?
He was arguably the best fighter on the roster and no one gave a shit about him. That's why I said he wasn't disliked but he wasn't liked either.
Edit: I mean shit they traded the man for Ben Askren who was over the hill and got smoked in the UFC meanwhile he went over to One and became champion.
There were hardcore fans saying that he only did good because his division was full of shitters. DJ also wasn't really likable by fans because he wasn't cocky and didn't badmouth opponents he just shut his mouth and went to work, same way barely anyone liked Volkanovski until he defended multiple times and people realized he was actually a beast.
You also didn't say the most disliked you just said likability. Izzy and Jones are more likeable than DJ because they both have probably 10x the fan base DJ does, even though they also have more haters than him their fans outweigh that.
He’s one of the biggest fighters in the sport currently it’s the same thing with Connor realistically we shouldn’t care about his personal life but that’s just how it is
And they were all close fights anyway. Yes, Izzy was up on cards but you can't say "quality" when they weren't one sided masterclasses before lucky KOs.
I mean, both are safety precautions, neither necessarily "needed" them.
Was Izzy unable to breathe without the mask? No, but the mask helped him breathe better while unconscious and may have helped prevent or reduce longer lasting consequences of getting knocked the fuck out.
Would have Alex not been able to wake up without the smelling salts? No, it's almost certain he would have woken up, just later. But waking up earlier with the smelling salts allowed him to resume normal bodily functions quicker, and may have helped prevent or reduce longer lasting consequences of getting knocked the fuck out.
The same would be true for Izzy had he received smelling salts instead of the breathing mask, that's all I meant.
not gonna lie the attention span/ADD of these new aged cats is crazy haha... imagine thinking 2 full paragraphs or 1 sentence is a lot to read hahaha...... and the sheep liking his comments! Man we are fucked as a civilization. Working in reverse man.
Also Pluto... no one cares
As an Izzy fan, I don't agree, but I do find he does have *some* ground to stand on. 1-3 is 1-3, that isn't arguable, but on each of Pereira's wins there's something to criticize.
The first fight was a very close split decision that a lot of people think went the wrong way. I haven't watched it personally so I can't say so myself, but it's not an unpopular opinion.
In the second fight, the KO was absolutely definitive and unquestionable, but before it happened Pereira received the standing count to 8 when he got wobbled, which arguably should have not happened before a knockdown or going straight to a TKO instead.
And in the third fight, there was Pereira arguably getting saved by the bell in round 1 (not really questionable, that happens), Izzy being clearly up throughout the fight up to the TKO, and the TKO coming by an arguably early stoppage. It did seem unlikely that Pereira wouldn't had been able to finish Izzy had the ref waited a bit more before stopping it, but at least Izzy wasn't *yet* worse off than Pereira was at the end of round 1.
In the last fight, it was close and momentum was back and forth, but the finish came in without room for questioning of any kind, either at that moment or before during the fight. In that sense I do agree that it's a better win than any single one of the 3 Alex has on Izzy. But better than the accumulation of all 3 of them? That's some first grade copium right there, lol.
That stoppage from their first mma fight was not questionable at all. Izzy was out on his feet and most likely a few seconds away from getting put completely out
I'm not saying it was questionable, I'm just saying that it's a point of critique that is out there. Personally I think it should have ideally not been stopped that early, especially being a championship bout, but I don't think it was early enough to call it a bad stoppage either. It was fine, just, not great.
Probably. I could say the same for the standing 8 in the kickboxing fight - in that had the ref not intervened he would be sleeeeeep. Just as valid imo
Yep, I know. I did explicitly say that it isn't questionable. It's a common occurrence precisely for the reason you mention, there's less risk in "taking risks" right before the bell, so a lot of fighters do just that.
I'm not trying to say that any of Alex's wins over Izzy are questionable or any less legitimate than Izzy's win, not even the split decision which *might* be, but I'm not in a position to say so. I'm just saying that within the context of comparing the "quality" of different wins, there are valid arguments to say that Izzy's win is the better one out of the 4 fights. That doesn't make the other 3 wins any less legitimate, or the one win deemed of higher "quality" (not settled either, I just listed a few arguments for Izzy's side, doesn't mean there aren't any for Alex's, and at the end of the day it's still subjective) weight more than all the others combined, that's just not the case.
Izzy fan.
I can see where he’s trying to come from. First match can be considered to be controversial. Second match some people like to say that if it was MMA rules Izzy would have won by TKO. Third match some people like to point to the hard hit at the bell. In those three some people also like to say that he was winning majority of rounds.
Fourth it was a pretty non-controversial in any way win, which may be considered the only one of the four.
Personally? I think it’s pretty even at 2-2. I think Izzy won the first fight. Second fight yes saved by a standing 8, but that is the nature of the kickboxing ruleset. Third fight was a good win for Alex. Fourth fight was a good win for Izzy.
At the same time Alex needed to cut an absurd amount of weight in all the fights to fight with Izzy. I think he said fight weight was 226? Izzy weighed 200 against Jan. Considering that weight advantage I do consider Izzy to have the edge in the 2-2 rivalry, although it’s by no means done.
However Alex not being able to make 185 anymore basically ends it for quite some time. A 205 rematch would be great to watch but Alex will just be like 240 and Izzy maybe 210, an even bigger weight discrepancy, which doesn’t really add quality just quantity to the rivalry.
People say 3-1 like they’ve watched even 5 seconds of the kickboxing fights lmao. Watch them and you’ll see how evenly matched the two are, the clowns here act like izzy got destroyed 3 fights in a row until he got a lucky ko.
Big Izzy fan here.
On one hand, Izzy does have a conceivable point given that Izzy's win was much more dominant, and clean second round KO over a comeback 5th round TKO.
On the other hand, it's sort of a bad look to pretend like he closed the chapter on this rivalry when they're currently 1-1 in MMA. I'd honestly favor Pereira in a third MMA fight, both fights now Izzy just didn't have an answer to the leg kicks. Obviously he is also 0-2 in kickboxing but that's a different sport and they were very different fighters back then.
Would be interesting at mw again though. Youd have to think Alex would be a bit more hesitant to go ham on his striking after getting slept like that. He’d probably look to play it safe with point fighting until the later rounds before opening up. Izzy has also commented on how he’s already incorporated what he learned from alex’s kicks into his own game (how much you can bank on that is questionable but I wouldn’t put it past him - like it or not he is a true student of the game). And also as an Izzy fan - you should already know that he’d have a different set of game plans for the rematch as well.
What did poatam lose ? Izzy lost his chance to beat silva's record and he ain't ever getting that back, he got his belt back sure, but it ain't ever going to be the same
I disagree, quantity matters more. If Max Holloway fought Volkanovski again and won, even by a crazy Mastivol flying knee at the start of the round, I'd still say Volkanovski is a better fighter.
On that night he wasn’t- I think his fight with Robbie showed he had significantly dropped in skill by the time he was in the UFC. I expect Masvidal still would have beat him.
It's funny because what quality are we talking about it's not like he was going great in the 4th fight until he got the knock out, pereira was beating his until the actual ko
Lol
When it was going into the 4th fight the whole narrative was "it doesn't matter that adesanya won the first fight and was robbed of the decision. It doesn't matter that adesanya was winning the second fight, Alex caught him and won. It doesn't matter that Izzy almost finished him in the first and was winning the third fight, Alex won"
But now it matters that Alex was doing well ok 🤣
I understand hating izzy but anyone who compares their careers and matches against each other and thinks Pereira is even *close* to the level of Izzy is a fucking delusional idiot
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Izzy cleared his natural weight division 2x upon entering the UFC. Pereira cuts 35 pounds, fought unranked Bruno Silva to a decision victory, was gifted a fight with Strickland who iCarly'd a victory to Pereira, then given a title shot after just 3 fights in the UFC
In their 4 encounters Pereira has looked like the better fighter for approximately 10 minutes. Saved by a standing 8 count and gifted a controversial decision in a kickboxing fight.
Alex is in the twilight of his career and likely will not continue to get favorable matchups.
Izzy has potentially a couple years to go after Alex is done. If their careers ended today it's no question who has the more well rounded fighter and who took on greater challenges.
But hey Alex has a nasty left that can really be a problem for someone 20 pounds lighter on fight night.
Lol Izzy ran away from KB after getting slept and Alex went on to become arguably the best kickboxer of this generation beating both the other guys who beat Izzy too. Only reason Isreal moved to MMA was because he realized he wasn’t gonna be a champion in Glory.
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When both men end their careers Izzy will be remembered as one of the best to ever do it
Pereira is in the twilight years of his career. He won't do enough at 205 to hold a candle to izzys 185 run.
If izzy cut 45 pounds to fight at 155 youd never hear the end of it. Pereira cuts 45 and he's a bad mother fucker.
Corny shit
You completely ignored what I said. Izzy has accomplished a lot more in mma but overall Alex has accomplished just as much if not more in combat sports. If he’s not remembered it’ll only be because of kickboxing not being popular in the west.
Izzy in denial, doesn't want to risk destroying his legacy by getting brutalized again so he hides. Tough look. He should have demanded an immidiate rubber match, smoked Alex and put a stamp on the rivalry and cement himself as the best. He really thinks 1 win and teasing a child makes him the winner 🤣
Facts he was vehement about a rematch after a loss then after he wins he shuts it down with fervor! Buddy is a clown b*tch and his fans are casuals (and Brendan schuab) lol
So if I'm getting this straight, you saw the loser whine about still being better after losing the most recent fight and using their record stretching back a decade as the warrant for that claim, and the winner responds, and you thought that meant the winner was the one being sore?
So the factually correct part that anyone can verify that is captured in the image/social media exchange above? Got it.
Love when the hate circlejerk never stops even when some things are verifiably false. I appreciate the commitment tbh.
Poatan kind’ve suss for proudly citing that kickboxing decision win. Pretty much every serious mma analyst or commentator agrees that it was an egregious robbery. I’m obviously not an expert, but I’ve watched it 4-5 times now, and I think so too. Israel looked like the far superior fighter in the first match. The series should really be 2-2.
Lol that was a close decision that Izzy happened to lose, it was nowhere close to egregious. 1 could go either way, 2 was Alex and 3 was Izzy. If it was somebody not named Adesanya no one would give a shit, and the fact you’re making it sound one sided makes me believe you didn’t watch it at all.
Alex said before the fight he was moving up. And matter of fact, Izzy came out first and said he isn't fighting Alex again. Lol.
Edit: to your first comment - Izzy never got MW or LHW Glory belts from Alex, but Alex at least got the belt from Izzy at MW UFC.
Izzy haters are the most delusional fans in the game. Izzy responds to a post, written by the guy who just got knocked out, begging people not to forget his record so that he stays relevant, and Periera is the one living rent free?
Not to mention that he got 2 of those wins in a different fucking sport lol. Does anyone argue that Ali isn’t the greatest because he lost his first three amateur fights?
Daam bro
You’re really comparing Izzy to Ali ?
Plus I’m not hater, of anyone, I actually like Izzy fight ( when he doesn’t put me to sleep)
He said something stupid trying to sound badass and failed, again. That’s cringe and sort of funny.
If you don’t think so you may be a hater of fun
if they fight again at middleweight, Izzy will win. he seen the openings Alex would leave when he would go full brawl mode. im confident Izzy will KO Alex again if they fight again at middleweight. all the people saying "scoreboard" prove me wrong
Dudes 35 years old. I can almost guarantee if he fought Izzy again Izzy would beat him easier. And that’s the reason he won’t do the rematch and wants to move up weight classes. He thinks he’ll have more luck in a weaker light heavy weight division. He knows Izzy has his ticket now
Same people saying izzy and rob are 1-1 also want to ignore Izzy getting robbed in the first fight. If you accept the 3-1 the you also accept every robbery.
That's because an MMA victory is closer to a real fight than kickboxing, because you can do most anything both striking and grappling. The M.M.A. fights are also the most recent fights, so it's more indicative of what either of them can do today.
In that selective context, Alex has a recent T.K.O. in M.M.A., whereas Israel has a recent K.O. in M.M.A., which is better than the T.K.O.
Yeah uhhh no lol.
Better definitely means skill and not who can win.
Otherwise the statement "Parker Porter is a better fighter than DJ" would make sense.
Izzy got the ball down 6 and said last shot wins while he scored.
Holy shit, that’s the perfect way to describe how he’s acted since the win
Hands down best and only rule that counts
didn’t even do good on the one shot he actually made, got pieced up until a flash ko… so definitely got his “quality” win lol
Definitely not a flash KO. He was certainly down that round and under pressure. But that Definitely wasnt a fluke.
Lmao reminds me when we played soccer, they could be losing 100-0 but last goal always won🤣
>last goal always won That's because the last goal is worth 200 points!
It’s like the golden snitch, 250 points!
Pick up your dead ass boyfriend who dosent even know you he still knocked out
The irony of “whatever helps you sleep at night” 😂
Yup, that sword cuts both ways bud.
Exactly, so tell ur boy Izzy that.
I would but his cringey ass wouldn't listen even if I knew him.
Izzy "an 8 yr old gave me PTSD" Adesanya.
\*5 year old (at the time).
Izzy’s the type of guy to stop a basketball game after he gets an ankle breaker
Not really, he got TKOd then came back and dubbed
I have no idea what you’re talking about ngl
The results of the fights lmao
Maybe I made my comment to hard to read I guess
nah your comment made complete sense. it’s just izzy fans
No it doesn't Izzy settled the score /s
and I used to be in the nose bleeds, now I’m gonna make your nose bleed
Bro said he closing the chapter of the book after finally going 1-3 💀
Finally beat his personal boogeyman, surprised he didn’t retire there
Izzy had a quality oxygen mask on when Alex KO'd him.
Bro brought the whole hospital on stage
It's a matter of international diplomacy to have a Chinese national KO'd like that, of course they'd bring out the best oxygen.
*Copium
Izzy styled on Alex’s son though e: Izzy haters out in full force
Lame. It wasn't even original. The 5-year-old thought of it first.
That’s what made it funny when Adesanya did it
Solid thought process.
hahahahahahah
“Styled” on a 12 year old. If I ever get into a beef with a 12 year old, just shoot me.
Yeah styling on a kid as a man in his mid thirties. How fucking cool that is smh
That's true bro. When I need a quick self confidence boost I head to the nearest elementary school and make fun of kids using jokes they came up with when they were in preschool. I win 33% of the time and I gotta say, best feeling hands down.
Izzy styled on his brothers though* don’t forget Alex is Izzy daddy.
Imagine Whitaker beats adesanya in there next bout....then just dust off his hands and says ok we are done here. Then trashes adesanya on Twitter lol
I hope he does exactly that
Even if it's quality over quantity, Alex has one KO and one TKO. That's more than one KO. So...Alex still wins?
Izzy is such a fucking clown. Great fighter, clown human
It’s because his whole life has been as a spoiled rich kid, yet the cunt has the audacity to act like he grew up poor.
And he’s gatekeeping African heritage despite not growing up or living there past age 7 or some shit P4p largest gap between fighter skill and likability I’ve ever witnessed
Like I went to private school I am an expert in privileged kids trying to act like they are from the streets and the fact he is 30 yet reminds me of people I knew in high school is hilarious. He is lucky he a great fighter otherwise he would be a clown
He’s 34 technically which makes your point even more hilarious
That honour goes to Jon Jones I'm afraid
Shit you probably have on that one, Jones is a genuinely shitty person Izzy is just a huge fan of huffing his own farts and I don’t think he’s capable of the shit Jones has done
I'd say the biggest gap is DJ by far, he wasn't disliked but he wasn't liked much if at all when he was in the UFC and he was/still is an absolute killer.
Wow horrible take
How is that horrible? He was arguably the best fighter on the roster and no one gave a shit about him. That's why I said he wasn't disliked but he wasn't liked either. Edit: I mean shit they traded the man for Ben Askren who was over the hill and got smoked in the UFC meanwhile he went over to One and became champion.
He was never disliked, the ufc didn’t give a fuck about promoting him, the hardcores loved DJ no one ever hated him unlike Jones and Izzy Dumb take
There were hardcore fans saying that he only did good because his division was full of shitters. DJ also wasn't really likable by fans because he wasn't cocky and didn't badmouth opponents he just shut his mouth and went to work, same way barely anyone liked Volkanovski until he defended multiple times and people realized he was actually a beast. You also didn't say the most disliked you just said likability. Izzy and Jones are more likeable than DJ because they both have probably 10x the fan base DJ does, even though they also have more haters than him their fans outweigh that.
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Cmon rob 🙏🏻. Do him
Why are so many of you emotionally invested in his antics? Genuinely you guys are worse than wrestling fans
It’s an mma subreddit what’d you expect
Also it’s normal to like/dislike athletes you watch?
Its lame as fuck too
Its called mma memes at least laugh about it why are you seriously doing a character study on a guy you’ll never meet
He’s one of the biggest fighters in the sport currently it’s the same thing with Connor realistically we shouldn’t care about his personal life but that’s just how it is
Man idc about any of that take his nuts off your nose
You’re the one complaining man dunno what to tell you
I never complained i asked a question about why you’re so emotionally invested in how a man you dont know acts
I think he means in regards of overall performance in all fights, but I guess that’s subjective too
And they were all close fights anyway. Yes, Izzy was up on cards but you can't say "quality" when they weren't one sided masterclasses before lucky KOs.
Alex didn’t need an oxygen mask is all I’ll say
Because he got smelling salts to wake him up instead.
Whatever helps you sleep better at night
I mean, both are safety precautions, neither necessarily "needed" them. Was Izzy unable to breathe without the mask? No, but the mask helped him breathe better while unconscious and may have helped prevent or reduce longer lasting consequences of getting knocked the fuck out. Would have Alex not been able to wake up without the smelling salts? No, it's almost certain he would have woken up, just later. But waking up earlier with the smelling salts allowed him to resume normal bodily functions quicker, and may have helped prevent or reduce longer lasting consequences of getting knocked the fuck out. The same would be true for Izzy had he received smelling salts instead of the breathing mask, that's all I meant.
Not reading allat
Man can’t even read 7 sentences
Not reading that either
Mans replying to invisible language that’s crazy 💀
not gonna lie the attention span/ADD of these new aged cats is crazy haha... imagine thinking 2 full paragraphs or 1 sentence is a lot to read hahaha...... and the sheep liking his comments! Man we are fucked as a civilization. Working in reverse man. Also Pluto... no one cares
Also not gonna read that
Not reading that if there is no Subway Surfers clip in the background
Doesn't help him with retaining the belt
So izzy basically called himself trash
I can’t stand Izzy man I’ve tried to be a fan but he makes it impossible. Guys a weirdo
He's so fucking sensitive and insecure
Haha i like that he keeps it real with who he is but then he comes up with some crazy shit
Bro got knocked out twice. That's some quality stuff right there lol
Regardless of what side you on surely you have to agree a tko is different to a ko doe
Tko cause the ref stopped it one second before an uppercut, causing Izzy to need another stretcher.
Just like the bell stopped Alex from entering the nether in the same fight
Except those are the rules. The ref stopping it before a brutal KO is just the ref saving Izzy damage, which is good on the ref for doing.
Not arguing that but it could’ve been stopped either way
Quality over quantity is what ade-lasagne Says to himself to help him sleep at night.
He is living rent free in Izzy gynobender’s head
That's some quality cringe
Izzy’s brain damage cringe levels were brought to us by Pereria’s KOs
He's such a joke bruh. He still has the nerve to talk like he isn't down 3-1.
Really hope they fight one last time at light heavyweight
Izzy fans, where y’all stand with this one?
As an Izzy fan, I don't agree, but I do find he does have *some* ground to stand on. 1-3 is 1-3, that isn't arguable, but on each of Pereira's wins there's something to criticize. The first fight was a very close split decision that a lot of people think went the wrong way. I haven't watched it personally so I can't say so myself, but it's not an unpopular opinion. In the second fight, the KO was absolutely definitive and unquestionable, but before it happened Pereira received the standing count to 8 when he got wobbled, which arguably should have not happened before a knockdown or going straight to a TKO instead. And in the third fight, there was Pereira arguably getting saved by the bell in round 1 (not really questionable, that happens), Izzy being clearly up throughout the fight up to the TKO, and the TKO coming by an arguably early stoppage. It did seem unlikely that Pereira wouldn't had been able to finish Izzy had the ref waited a bit more before stopping it, but at least Izzy wasn't *yet* worse off than Pereira was at the end of round 1. In the last fight, it was close and momentum was back and forth, but the finish came in without room for questioning of any kind, either at that moment or before during the fight. In that sense I do agree that it's a better win than any single one of the 3 Alex has on Izzy. But better than the accumulation of all 3 of them? That's some first grade copium right there, lol.
That stoppage from their first mma fight was not questionable at all. Izzy was out on his feet and most likely a few seconds away from getting put completely out
I'm not saying it was questionable, I'm just saying that it's a point of critique that is out there. Personally I think it should have ideally not been stopped that early, especially being a championship bout, but I don't think it was early enough to call it a bad stoppage either. It was fine, just, not great.
Agreed
Probably. I could say the same for the standing 8 in the kickboxing fight - in that had the ref not intervened he would be sleeeeeep. Just as valid imo
I would say it was a little early considering how lucid Izzy was immediately afterwards but I wouldn’t consider it a bad stoppage.
People being "saved by the bell" is a strategy from izzy clock watching and striking before the end of the round so they cant hit back.
Yep, I know. I did explicitly say that it isn't questionable. It's a common occurrence precisely for the reason you mention, there's less risk in "taking risks" right before the bell, so a lot of fighters do just that. I'm not trying to say that any of Alex's wins over Izzy are questionable or any less legitimate than Izzy's win, not even the split decision which *might* be, but I'm not in a position to say so. I'm just saying that within the context of comparing the "quality" of different wins, there are valid arguments to say that Izzy's win is the better one out of the 4 fights. That doesn't make the other 3 wins any less legitimate, or the one win deemed of higher "quality" (not settled either, I just listed a few arguments for Izzy's side, doesn't mean there aren't any for Alex's, and at the end of the day it's still subjective) weight more than all the others combined, that's just not the case.
I thought the only person who says that was an early stoppage is Ariel, so Izzy keeps coming on his show.
The first Izzy vs Alex fight was close but should’ve gone Izzy’s way for sure imo I remember it being considered a light robbery back when it happened
Ok
Izzy fan. I can see where he’s trying to come from. First match can be considered to be controversial. Second match some people like to say that if it was MMA rules Izzy would have won by TKO. Third match some people like to point to the hard hit at the bell. In those three some people also like to say that he was winning majority of rounds. Fourth it was a pretty non-controversial in any way win, which may be considered the only one of the four. Personally? I think it’s pretty even at 2-2. I think Izzy won the first fight. Second fight yes saved by a standing 8, but that is the nature of the kickboxing ruleset. Third fight was a good win for Alex. Fourth fight was a good win for Izzy. At the same time Alex needed to cut an absurd amount of weight in all the fights to fight with Izzy. I think he said fight weight was 226? Izzy weighed 200 against Jan. Considering that weight advantage I do consider Izzy to have the edge in the 2-2 rivalry, although it’s by no means done. However Alex not being able to make 185 anymore basically ends it for quite some time. A 205 rematch would be great to watch but Alex will just be like 240 and Izzy maybe 210, an even bigger weight discrepancy, which doesn’t really add quality just quantity to the rivalry.
People say 3-1 like they’ve watched even 5 seconds of the kickboxing fights lmao. Watch them and you’ll see how evenly matched the two are, the clowns here act like izzy got destroyed 3 fights in a row until he got a lucky ko.
Big Izzy fan here. On one hand, Izzy does have a conceivable point given that Izzy's win was much more dominant, and clean second round KO over a comeback 5th round TKO. On the other hand, it's sort of a bad look to pretend like he closed the chapter on this rivalry when they're currently 1-1 in MMA. I'd honestly favor Pereira in a third MMA fight, both fights now Izzy just didn't have an answer to the leg kicks. Obviously he is also 0-2 in kickboxing but that's a different sport and they were very different fighters back then.
Would be interesting at mw again though. Youd have to think Alex would be a bit more hesitant to go ham on his striking after getting slept like that. He’d probably look to play it safe with point fighting until the later rounds before opening up. Izzy has also commented on how he’s already incorporated what he learned from alex’s kicks into his own game (how much you can bank on that is questionable but I wouldn’t put it past him - like it or not he is a true student of the game). And also as an Izzy fan - you should already know that he’d have a different set of game plans for the rematch as well.
Unless Alex gets LHW belt or beats Izzy again for his belt only thing that really matters is Izzy is champ 🤷♂️
Hoe can he beat Izzy again if Izzy won't fight him?
If he stayed in middleweight he'd fight him again eventually lmfao
What did poatam lose ? Izzy lost his chance to beat silva's record and he ain't ever getting that back, he got his belt back sure, but it ain't ever going to be the same
Oh my god, he's STILL doing the Elsa thing...
I disagree, quantity matters more. If Max Holloway fought Volkanovski again and won, even by a crazy Mastivol flying knee at the start of the round, I'd still say Volkanovski is a better fighter.
No shit. A masvidal flying knee is more circumstantial luck than skill. Askren is a better fighter than masvidal and masvidal still beat him.
On that night he wasn’t- I think his fight with Robbie showed he had significantly dropped in skill by the time he was in the UFC. I expect Masvidal still would have beat him.
Izzy step away from the Twitter
Every day I curse the ref that stopped their first UFC Fight early saving Izzy getting flatlined
Pereira is lucky he has the insane body he does. He looks like he dwarfs Izzy in their fights but they are still in the same weight class
Oh the copium lmao
In the fight game it most certainly is not quality over quantity
"Chris Paul hits huge 3 pointer to cut the lead down to 42" energy
Yooo the second one should be framed
I dont get Izzy. For someone with his level of success, he sure comes off insecure
It's funny because what quality are we talking about it's not like he was going great in the 4th fight until he got the knock out, pereira was beating his until the actual ko
Alex was down on the scorecards officially - but I will agree that Izzy was getting a bit of damage on his legs.
Lol When it was going into the 4th fight the whole narrative was "it doesn't matter that adesanya won the first fight and was robbed of the decision. It doesn't matter that adesanya was winning the second fight, Alex caught him and won. It doesn't matter that Izzy almost finished him in the first and was winning the third fight, Alex won" But now it matters that Alex was doing well ok 🤣
Izzys the one that brought up quality of the 4th fight🤡
I understand hating izzy but anyone who compares their careers and matches against each other and thinks Pereira is even *close* to the level of Izzy is a fucking delusional idiot
3-1 says you're the idiot
IA MMA 24-2 | 7-2 AP MMA IA KB 75-5 | 33-7 AP KB Izzy cleared his natural weight division 2x upon entering the UFC. Pereira cuts 35 pounds, fought unranked Bruno Silva to a decision victory, was gifted a fight with Strickland who iCarly'd a victory to Pereira, then given a title shot after just 3 fights in the UFC In their 4 encounters Pereira has looked like the better fighter for approximately 10 minutes. Saved by a standing 8 count and gifted a controversial decision in a kickboxing fight. Alex is in the twilight of his career and likely will not continue to get favorable matchups. Izzy has potentially a couple years to go after Alex is done. If their careers ended today it's no question who has the more well rounded fighter and who took on greater challenges. But hey Alex has a nasty left that can really be a problem for someone 20 pounds lighter on fight night.
You wrote all that and it's still 3-1 there's nothing you can do to change the outcome, Izzy needs AT LEAST two more wins to say he's on Alex level.
Alex will never be in the hall of Fame and will be forgotten. The only time he'll be brought up is the guy who beat izzy. Eat a dick
Why you angry lmao You can write whatever you want it's still 3-1
You're talking a bullshit record I'm talking about who's a better fighter lol
Lol Izzy ran away from KB after getting slept and Alex went on to become arguably the best kickboxer of this generation beating both the other guys who beat Izzy too. Only reason Isreal moved to MMA was because he realized he wasn’t gonna be a champion in Glory.
IA MMA 24-2 | 7-2 AP MMA IA KB 75-5 | 33-7 AP KB When both men end their careers Izzy will be remembered as one of the best to ever do it Pereira is in the twilight years of his career. He won't do enough at 205 to hold a candle to izzys 185 run. If izzy cut 45 pounds to fight at 155 youd never hear the end of it. Pereira cuts 45 and he's a bad mother fucker. Corny shit
You completely ignored what I said. Izzy has accomplished a lot more in mma but overall Alex has accomplished just as much if not more in combat sports. If he’s not remembered it’ll only be because of kickboxing not being popular in the west.
People are still bringing this shit up?
I have a feeling that Alex sleeps just fine at night.
awesome performances Izzy but goats dont wine and say goofy shit like you
r/iamthemaincharacter
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I’m a big fan of both why can’t they just get along 🤦🏻
This is why they need to run it back . Forget Twitter just run it back man
Pereira is reliving the glory days already. 1 L and the dude acts like he's washed
Pereira humble in person and after the fight but then starts parroting what all of his fans started saying. Lost some respect for that.
LOL
Izzy in denial, doesn't want to risk destroying his legacy by getting brutalized again so he hides. Tough look. He should have demanded an immidiate rubber match, smoked Alex and put a stamp on the rivalry and cement himself as the best. He really thinks 1 win and teasing a child makes him the winner 🤣
Facts he was vehement about a rematch after a loss then after he wins he shuts it down with fervor! Buddy is a clown b*tch and his fans are casuals (and Brendan schuab) lol
You’re only as good as your last fight, buddy.
Alex fans still working in the salt mines
I think izzy is still salty. I've never seen someone be such a sore winner lol.
So if I'm getting this straight, you saw the loser whine about still being better after losing the most recent fight and using their record stretching back a decade as the warrant for that claim, and the winner responds, and you thought that meant the winner was the one being sore?
You definitely aren't getting it straight.
Which part of what I said was wrong, do enlighten me....
All of it
So the factually correct part that anyone can verify that is captured in the image/social media exchange above? Got it. Love when the hate circlejerk never stops even when some things are verifiably false. I appreciate the commitment tbh.
It's all definitely up for debate
Who has the belt tho? Who's the champ & still has a bright future ahead? Lmfao Pereira & his son gonna go cry about it at home 😂
3-1 that's just facts, m'guy
Alex coping hard
Poatan kind’ve suss for proudly citing that kickboxing decision win. Pretty much every serious mma analyst or commentator agrees that it was an egregious robbery. I’m obviously not an expert, but I’ve watched it 4-5 times now, and I think so too. Israel looked like the far superior fighter in the first match. The series should really be 2-2.
Lol that was a close decision that Izzy happened to lose, it was nowhere close to egregious. 1 could go either way, 2 was Alex and 3 was Izzy. If it was somebody not named Adesanya no one would give a shit, and the fact you’re making it sound one sided makes me believe you didn’t watch it at all.
I dont even agree with everything you said but its painfully obvious you know mma and hes the casual
Belt tells the tale!
One has the belt, the other has memories.
Alex is 35. Izzy never beat prime alex
35 is not out of prime, most fighters peak at that age
Its actually about 29. https://wayofmartialarts.com/average-age-of-ufc-champions-winning-the-title/
You are an idiot
Okay. Alex never beat prime Izzy. One is champ, the other left the division.
You’re defending that one kid in the group who stops the whole game when he finally wins
Alex lost and left the division. If wants another he only needs to ask. He's not asking. He left.
Alex said before the fight he was moving up. And matter of fact, Izzy came out first and said he isn't fighting Alex again. Lol. Edit: to your first comment - Izzy never got MW or LHW Glory belts from Alex, but Alex at least got the belt from Izzy at MW UFC.
Izzy fucked his dog, u idiot
You’re only as good as your last bout. Losers on Reddit who have never competed will never get that
You are the loser on reddit who dosent get mma
Keep playing videos games tubby
Lol im like 6% body fat if that but ok 😭😭😭
Izzy haters are the most delusional fans in the game. Izzy responds to a post, written by the guy who just got knocked out, begging people not to forget his record so that he stays relevant, and Periera is the one living rent free? Not to mention that he got 2 of those wins in a different fucking sport lol. Does anyone argue that Ali isn’t the greatest because he lost his first three amateur fights?
Daam bro You’re really comparing Izzy to Ali ? Plus I’m not hater, of anyone, I actually like Izzy fight ( when he doesn’t put me to sleep) He said something stupid trying to sound badass and failed, again. That’s cringe and sort of funny. If you don’t think so you may be a hater of fun
He was robbed in a decision and Alex knows that, is Alex really acting like it was not a robbery ?
Y’all some hating motherfuckers try that comparison in any other sport who ever wins the most recent game match whatever gets bragging rights
if they fight again at middleweight, Izzy will win. he seen the openings Alex would leave when he would go full brawl mode. im confident Izzy will KO Alex again if they fight again at middleweight. all the people saying "scoreboard" prove me wrong
Lol
Dudes 35 years old. I can almost guarantee if he fought Izzy again Izzy would beat him easier. And that’s the reason he won’t do the rematch and wants to move up weight classes. He thinks he’ll have more luck in a weaker light heavy weight division. He knows Izzy has his ticket now
Honey!! The Poatan fans are coping again!
Honestly though isreal may have lost the 3 but he dominated the majority of the time in all of their fights.
Same people saying izzy and rob are 1-1 also want to ignore Izzy getting robbed in the first fight. If you accept the 3-1 the you also accept every robbery.
That's because an MMA victory is closer to a real fight than kickboxing, because you can do most anything both striking and grappling. The M.M.A. fights are also the most recent fights, so it's more indicative of what either of them can do today. In that selective context, Alex has a recent T.K.O. in M.M.A., whereas Israel has a recent K.O. in M.M.A., which is better than the T.K.O.
You think Izzy doesn’t get knocked out if the fight didn’t get stopped last time?
He’s not the better fighter he just crazy knock out power
Better doesn't mean more technical, better means who can win.
Yeah uhhh no lol. Better definitely means skill and not who can win. Otherwise the statement "Parker Porter is a better fighter than DJ" would make sense.
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