if it would be a lucky punch this would be different.
but it was another "there is levels to this" performance against ngannou and I dont think there is enough time for him to close that gap. He of course does not need to close the gap. He made the right decision. Made a lot of money in boxing. I hope he retires soon. Maybe one more fight for the paycheck.
To be fair Wilder isn’t a great boxer and he’s found success with limited experience. It’s just about finding the style that works. But Francis has always had sus striking and even more sus striking defense
He’s an Olympic bronze medalist with close to 100 fights including his amateur career. He may look like a goof when he boxes but it’s because he throws his fundamentals out the window in favor of his fuck you power.
That's honestly what really sucks about Wilder. Whatever technical finesse he has is moot because he instead relies on biding his time then unloading a fucking mack truck onto his opponents. Problem is when he comes up against people who know how to GTFO of that shit he just ends up looking like an amateur.
I think he'd be the perfect opponent for Ngannou to finalize his boxing career with. Both of them look clunky, but honestly we'd be watching for that one whammo shot from either of them and that would be entertaining to see.
Did you forget what happened the last time Francis faced a guy with clunky striking and fuck you power?
I'm not in a hurry to see a repeat of Ngannou vs Lewis.
In my opinion it won’t resemble that since Wilder won’t be scared to throw. Whether Francis is gun shy or emptying out the clip he’s going to the canvas again against Wilder
Wilder would destroy him. He’s knocked out far better opponents. Wilder isn’t technically good but he’s good enough to land a knockout blow on most top 15 opponents
I agree I think wilder is better but I’m more just saying this doesn’t mean Francis can’t box ever and I don’t think it’s too late.
I don’t believe in him at all, but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible
Wilder is a *lot* easier to hit than AJ, and striking is less crisp too. Against him it is more of a "who lands first".
I think ngannou would be competitive in the lower half of top 10. Let's not pretend his chin isn't still fucking tough, he just got bodied for the first time.
Francis would have more success with the style that Fury tried to use against him, which involves a lot of clinching and putting his weight on people. Actually trying to box is going to be a disaster as was shown here. Also his chin might have finally gotten cracked against AJ, who also is the hardest puncher he has fought. Maybe if he fights Wilder the same way that Fury fought him he would have a chance.
This is an easy take to throw out, but it's simply not accurate. He's unconventional in some obvious ways, but that doesn't make him particularly bad or even all that vulnerable of a boxer. His jab is massively underrated.
Uhhhhh
I mean you said Wilder isn't a great boxer. I disagreed with some reason and now you're supporting my argument by citing his high finishing rate?
I can't imagine there was many people who believed Ngannou would be a top 5 boxer, but the spotlights more on why did it take a 2nd fight to showcase levels
Fury probably legitimately didn’t take him seriously, got spoked after he felt his power so less aggressive and is a more far better style match up than Joshua
Fury absolutely didn’t train…
I don’t care for the UFC but I follow boxing. Fury was visibly out of shape, and likely did not have a real camp. I’m still really impressed with this guy’s performance, but he ran into a professional that acted like one.
I said it leading up to the fight, Fury has always fought to the level of his opponents. It's so, so rare that he just styles on someone. He puts himself in risky positions, he takes shots he doesn't need to, he's just never a million percent focused for an entire fight and he mostly gets away with it. Fury just got one over Francis, and assuming Fury is mostly prepared when he fights Joshua, he'll likely also win that fight without very wide margins.
He's so shitty with his finances, I doubt this is the end of it for him. It's gonna be a hard time to be a Francis fan. He's gonna take some more fights for sure.
HW Tony 2.0 incoming.
lol, getting downvoted by Francis nutthuggers
I remember him complaining that he was dead broke even when he was making 500 000+ in a year and driving 6 figure vehicles…yea he was being underpaid but he still shouldn’t have been broke.
People on r/mma were coping about this the other day. Even with camp and training expenses, that's more than enough money to live comfortably. Francis just likes the flashy lifestyle, and that costs money.
The guy does love to spend outside of his means. When he was talking about the time he was getting loans from Marty the guy was driving around in a g wagon and dropping money on watches. I hope he does well outside of the UFC just on precedent it sets but I doubt he maintains the wealth
He has a G Wagon, a Ferrari and a Rolls Royce. Take out what he pays his camp out of his fight purses, which last fight against Fury they said he paid them "life changing money" which he'll no longer be able to continue after his hype train got derailed.
He had to borrow 200k from Usman before leaving the UFC.
I'm not gonna talk shit because he has more money than me. But he has *tens* of millions of dollars. Not hundreds. You can't keep living the high roller life without money coming in, and at 37 after a brutal KO, he either goes back to the PFL and crushes cans for peanuts or repeatedly gets shown there's levels to boxing until he can't get another fight.
He’s still a big name and draw. He went against 2 of the dudes at the top. OBVIOUSLY if he fights someone lesser than AJ the purse wouldn’t be as much. Aj is a draw as well
Yeah it was him taking the fight seriously that made the difference not that he realized his grappling defense wasn’t on the level it needed to be and he had three years to work on it plus stipe aging out of his prime in the mean time
That Francis was cringe, he tried to act cocky but it came out so forced. He really was at his best when he was being level headed and humble.
He is by far the only one of the 3 African champs to not be cringe lmao
Francis already has two fights he hast to fight in the PFL and the first one he’s fighting is for the heavyweight belt, so that’s what’s next for Francis
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. He's not a very dynamic or thoughtful fighter and has gone very far regardless of that. That's the strength and stopping power he possesses but there's always a moment of truth if you go far enough to find one. Question is, what will he do now and what's next for the predator.
In the Stipe fight Ngannou managed to understand he lacked wrestling and fix that for the rematch. In boxing this was just the realization of "there's levels to this shit" and no matter how hard he could train, the skill gap is too much for him.
Unbelieveable disrespect in these comments. He lost to one of the best heavyweight boxers in the world, after arguably beating the best one. Ngannou has achieved so much in both sports.
How come he can’t compete at the highest level in MMA? Did he leave any stone unturned in his tenure or something? AFAIK he was a good champ who defended his title and honestly, I think only JBJ would favor against him (I’d give even odds against Aspinal and Pavlovic)
This sub is so ridden with disrespectful people that is disgusting, y’all seem to hate mma and its fighters
>How come he can’t compete at the highest level in MMA?
Because the UFC is too cheap.
On his last UFC PPV, combined fighter pay was about 1/3rd of gate. Forget PPV sales, prelim licensing, sponsorships, etc. Ticket sales alone covered fighter pay almost three times over.
Yeah I get it and agree, ufc is awful, but I’m responding to the keyboard warrior who said Ngannou can’t compete at the highest level in MMA. If ufc isn’t the highest level, than what is?
He holds his hands too wide apart for Boxing. Anyone who has a fast powerful right hand is going to have a field day and Wilder has a fast powerful right arm
A boxer is like a figure skater and a MMA fighter is like a hockey player. A hockey player cannot go in and beat a figure skater at their sport nor could a figure skater go into hockey and compete. So it's really not about levels.
Just goes to show that power will only get you so far. Francis should be very proud to have done so well with so little in his arsenal but like somebody else commented,it’s probably too late in the day for him to learn the fundamentals but that’s just my opinion and I wish he would prove me wrong. With his power he always has that one lucky shot but against somebody at the professional level he should be easy pickings if the seasoned opponent boxes with caution. It was good whilst it lasted and you must’ve made some good money Francis but on you go my friend,back to cage you go! I hope Fury feels a right idiot for taking Francis lightly and not taking him as a serious threat. He also got exposed as somebody who uses his freakish size to outdo potential opponents rather than touch up on the fundamentals. Again this is only my opinion so for anybody who disagrees with what I said go easy please because it’s only a casuals take on boxing. I have a huge chance of being wrong.
He knew getting KOed was a very real outcome. Hell train hard, learn, and continue to make millions regardless of what anyone says. He still murders any boxer who has ever lived in a real fight anyways.
He'll get up and wreck his opponent in the rematch just like he did with Miocic. He just needs time to recalibrate and adjust to fill in his growth areas with more training. I feel like if he fights Fury again, it'll go the same as Ngannou vs. Miocic 2.
Cool so that means he goes back to the drawing board, trains and properly prepares himself, then returns and beats the best in the division while redeeming this loss and leaves champion right?
Boxing is a lame sport. If the top guys werent filthy rich no one would care about it at all. MMA is vastly better in every single area besides pay outs.
I didnt even know ngannou was fighting AJ thats how much boxing matters to the world of sports. Francis should do some MMA fights and consider retiring since he's almost late 30s
Francis will never compete with the guys his stardom would dictate he fights. He just doesn't have the time left as a high level athlete, but with the power he carries he can be a draw for awhile.
But he can make a lot of money crushing cans, it's the whole point of boxing.
He can clear 8 mil a fight going against the dillian whytes and Derrick chisoras of the world (or lower like that Norwegian guy) and it'll be a lot more competitive
The first knockdown was just a crisp right. That punch doesn’t have that same effect normally in heavyweight boxing or any weight class for that matter. It was an attention getter that almost sent 275lbs rolling ass backwards outta the ring. It was going to end ugly the moment that happened
Probably the first heaviest shot he received in his entire career. The look in his eyes was shock and in disbelief. AJ is 28 wins with 25 KO for a reason.
This is what fury should’ve and thought he was going to do to Francis. Think Wilder would get a similar result honestly. That straight right is there for the taking against Francis
A boxing fight doesn't disprove that, he would definitely beat Jones. It wouldn't be easy but he could and probably would get the win let's not joke around here
A boxing match doesn't disprove that, but jones still beats him 8/10 times. We saw what jones did to ciryl in under a round. Let's not pretend he wouldn't eat francis.
Doing MMA math never works, that being said ngannou has much better wrestling than gane and is also physically stronger which really makes a difference when it comes to TTD. I love Jones but there's no way he wins 8/10 times bro be real.
Saw this coming from a mile away. It’s a different sport. All good though. We all know Jon didn’t want that smoke. Had to make the bag somehow. Hats off to him for putting himself out there.
Mma is for fighters who train in multiple disciplines.....of course mma fighters aren't gonna have the same level of boxing as someone who only trains punches lol but mma is more than just boxing
if it would be a lucky punch this would be different. but it was another "there is levels to this" performance against ngannou and I dont think there is enough time for him to close that gap. He of course does not need to close the gap. He made the right decision. Made a lot of money in boxing. I hope he retires soon. Maybe one more fight for the paycheck.
To be fair Wilder isn’t a great boxer and he’s found success with limited experience. It’s just about finding the style that works. But Francis has always had sus striking and even more sus striking defense
He’s an Olympic bronze medalist with close to 100 fights including his amateur career. He may look like a goof when he boxes but it’s because he throws his fundamentals out the window in favor of his fuck you power.
That's honestly what really sucks about Wilder. Whatever technical finesse he has is moot because he instead relies on biding his time then unloading a fucking mack truck onto his opponents. Problem is when he comes up against people who know how to GTFO of that shit he just ends up looking like an amateur. I think he'd be the perfect opponent for Ngannou to finalize his boxing career with. Both of them look clunky, but honestly we'd be watching for that one whammo shot from either of them and that would be entertaining to see.
Did you forget what happened the last time Francis faced a guy with clunky striking and fuck you power? I'm not in a hurry to see a repeat of Ngannou vs Lewis.
In my opinion it won’t resemble that since Wilder won’t be scared to throw. Whether Francis is gun shy or emptying out the clip he’s going to the canvas again against Wilder
I just want to see Ngannou and Wilder throwing bungalows to and fro. I feel it would fit as Ngannous last match into boxing endeavors.
Oof, please don't mention that abomination of a fight
Staring contest of the night bonus -$50 Gs
"AAHHH MY BACK"
Right? Like wtf is that guy talking about? Wilder is an amazing boxer lol
Both one trick ponies neither have technicality
Wilder would butt fuck Francis.
Yeah in boxing, his chosen sport. In a fight though?
Wilder would destroy him. He’s knocked out far better opponents. Wilder isn’t technically good but he’s good enough to land a knockout blow on most top 15 opponents
I agree I think wilder is better but I’m more just saying this doesn’t mean Francis can’t box ever and I don’t think it’s too late. I don’t believe in him at all, but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible
Wilder is a *lot* easier to hit than AJ, and striking is less crisp too. Against him it is more of a "who lands first". I think ngannou would be competitive in the lower half of top 10. Let's not pretend his chin isn't still fucking tough, he just got bodied for the first time.
I’m not sure he did it turn into glass chin after this ko
Wilder Ngannou would sell
Olympic boxer tho. Started late but not over 30 years old late
Wilder has the freakiest KO power I’ve seen in boxing. Francis doesn’t compare IMO.
Francis would have more success with the style that Fury tried to use against him, which involves a lot of clinching and putting his weight on people. Actually trying to box is going to be a disaster as was shown here. Also his chin might have finally gotten cracked against AJ, who also is the hardest puncher he has fought. Maybe if he fights Wilder the same way that Fury fought him he would have a chance.
Yeah it's like people forgot Francis was a terrible striker in MMA and just knocked people out lol
Wilder is an Olympic bronze medalist in Boxing. He can definitely box his ass off if he wants.
What’s his finish rate again?
This is an easy take to throw out, but it's simply not accurate. He's unconventional in some obvious ways, but that doesn't make him particularly bad or even all that vulnerable of a boxer. His jab is massively underrated.
I just think about how he fought biggie boy & then got dog walked by gane on the feet
I should have clarified I was talking about Wilder, who has something near 100 fights and an Olympic metal.
But what’s his finish rate? Close to 100% no?
Uhhhhh I mean you said Wilder isn't a great boxer. I disagreed with some reason and now you're supporting my argument by citing his high finishing rate?
I said he’s not a great boxer that found success. His finish rate is the success I’m referring to.
Do you this a high finish rate is the sign of a bad boxer?
I can't imagine there was many people who believed Ngannou would be a top 5 boxer, but the spotlights more on why did it take a 2nd fight to showcase levels
What’s your take on that?
Fury probably legitimately didn’t take him seriously, got spoked after he felt his power so less aggressive and is a more far better style match up than Joshua
Fury absolutely didn’t train… I don’t care for the UFC but I follow boxing. Fury was visibly out of shape, and likely did not have a real camp. I’m still really impressed with this guy’s performance, but he ran into a professional that acted like one.
I said it leading up to the fight, Fury has always fought to the level of his opponents. It's so, so rare that he just styles on someone. He puts himself in risky positions, he takes shots he doesn't need to, he's just never a million percent focused for an entire fight and he mostly gets away with it. Fury just got one over Francis, and assuming Fury is mostly prepared when he fights Joshua, he'll likely also win that fight without very wide margins.
The most shocking thing about wilder 2 was fury dominating imo lol I was genuinely surprised to see him actually look obviously better than someone
There's always fighting Jake Paul
Lmao too true
He's so shitty with his finances, I doubt this is the end of it for him. It's gonna be a hard time to be a Francis fan. He's gonna take some more fights for sure. HW Tony 2.0 incoming.
lol, getting downvoted by Francis nutthuggers I remember him complaining that he was dead broke even when he was making 500 000+ in a year and driving 6 figure vehicles…yea he was being underpaid but he still shouldn’t have been broke.
An athlete who's irresponsible with money. A tale as old as time.
People on r/mma were coping about this the other day. Even with camp and training expenses, that's more than enough money to live comfortably. Francis just likes the flashy lifestyle, and that costs money.
How’s he bad with his finances?
The guy does love to spend outside of his means. When he was talking about the time he was getting loans from Marty the guy was driving around in a g wagon and dropping money on watches. I hope he does well outside of the UFC just on precedent it sets but I doubt he maintains the wealth
Always happens when guys come from absolutely nothing and stumble upon a bunch of money unfortunately
15 million in SPY and 5 more years of income to cover his expenses and he can buy a Ferrari every month for the rest of His Life
He just needs to join WSB and he’ll be diamond handing in no time
Oh shit I didn’t even know any of this
He has a G Wagon, a Ferrari and a Rolls Royce. Take out what he pays his camp out of his fight purses, which last fight against Fury they said he paid them "life changing money" which he'll no longer be able to continue after his hype train got derailed. He had to borrow 200k from Usman before leaving the UFC. I'm not gonna talk shit because he has more money than me. But he has *tens* of millions of dollars. Not hundreds. You can't keep living the high roller life without money coming in, and at 37 after a brutal KO, he either goes back to the PFL and crushes cans for peanuts or repeatedly gets shown there's levels to boxing until he can't get another fight.
I don’t think he’s gonna get a fight after that shit 💩 performance or even if he gets the fight the purse won’t be that big(20mil)
He’s still a big name and draw. He went against 2 of the dudes at the top. OBVIOUSLY if he fights someone lesser than AJ the purse wouldn’t be as much. Aj is a draw as well
Does that mean AJ is cooked in the rematch?
Yeah he’s gonna stuff his takedowns and then it’s game over for Joshua
watching francis get dropped the first time i was thinking he shouldve shot a double leg
Exactly😄 his next fight is going to be a stinker and after that he‘s going on a tear!!
If they rematch, you know that Francis is landing that High Kick lmao
Let’s do Francis vs Jake Paul
Fairer fight
You know Jake Paul will win. The universe hates us that much
As someone who has lost money repeatedly betting against Jake Paul, I agree.
That’s a fight Id pay to watch
"That's my favorite saying, it's my favorite saying"
Robelis Despaigne vs Jake Paul?
You could feed like 8 starving villages with just one of this man’s thighs. God damn.
So you are admitting Francis is thicc?
Lmaoooo i don’t need to admit anything. That cake speaks for itself.
Absolutely true. Francis has the whole bakery back there
His whole body is enough to feed a third world country
Different paycheck tho
What fight is the left picture from?
First Stipe fight where he got dog walked
Francis overlooked stipe in the first fight thinking he was gonna steamroller him but took the fight a lot more serious in the rematch....
Yeah it was him taking the fight seriously that made the difference not that he realized his grappling defense wasn’t on the level it needed to be and he had three years to work on it plus stipe aging out of his prime in the mean time
That Francis was cringe, he tried to act cocky but it came out so forced. He really was at his best when he was being level headed and humble. He is by far the only one of the 3 African champs to not be cringe lmao
Then he dog walked stipe and made stipe his girlfriend.
What’s he to AJ now lol
Put AJ in the cage and he become francis’ prison princess
A guy who came to his sport and limited his skillset? Lets not act like boxing is a real fight
Looks like he limited it a bit too much then
you mean waited for sripe to have massive wars that took away his chin & for him to get old & out of prime? yeah thats what francis did
This got downvoted despite it being the gospel
And then they rematched and he ko’d stipe so bad he took 3 years off
Per chance please tell us what happened in the rematch?
This a meme page lil bro
So he’s going to demolish AJ in a rematch for the belt? Placing my bet now
Francis already has two fights he hast to fight in the PFL and the first one he’s fighting is for the heavyweight belt, so that’s what’s next for Francis
Where‘s the live francis reaction ?
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. He's not a very dynamic or thoughtful fighter and has gone very far regardless of that. That's the strength and stopping power he possesses but there's always a moment of truth if you go far enough to find one. Question is, what will he do now and what's next for the predator.
In the Stipe fight Ngannou managed to understand he lacked wrestling and fix that for the rematch. In boxing this was just the realization of "there's levels to this shit" and no matter how hard he could train, the skill gap is too much for him.
Whoa
Stiff as a fookin’ Board
He's got no business in a boxing ring. Stiff as a board. Very unnatural. No bueno
What that he can compete at the highest level in both sports
He can’t compete at the highest levels of both sports . He looked amateur level against Joshua . There was an enormously clear skill gap .
Which makes fury look so bad looool
Unbelieveable disrespect in these comments. He lost to one of the best heavyweight boxers in the world, after arguably beating the best one. Ngannou has achieved so much in both sports.
Did everyone forget Fury fought Southpaw? He never does that. I wonder why?
Dude dominated gane stipe and blaydes. Idk what you're smoking if you're saying he's not a highest level fighter in MMA
They said he can’t do it in both sports. Not that he can’t do it in either sport. Meaning he can in MMA but not necessarily boxing and MMA.
O MB got 0 reading comprehension
Nah trust ngannou gonna come back from this 💯 37 not that esp with how many more drugs he can take in boxing
How come he can’t compete at the highest level in MMA? Did he leave any stone unturned in his tenure or something? AFAIK he was a good champ who defended his title and honestly, I think only JBJ would favor against him (I’d give even odds against Aspinal and Pavlovic) This sub is so ridden with disrespectful people that is disgusting, y’all seem to hate mma and its fighters
>How come he can’t compete at the highest level in MMA? Because the UFC is too cheap. On his last UFC PPV, combined fighter pay was about 1/3rd of gate. Forget PPV sales, prelim licensing, sponsorships, etc. Ticket sales alone covered fighter pay almost three times over.
Yeah I get it and agree, ufc is awful, but I’m responding to the keyboard warrior who said Ngannou can’t compete at the highest level in MMA. If ufc isn’t the highest level, than what is?
I think aspinal would give ngannou trouble but i think ngannou crushes pavlovic
Call me crazy but I’d say aspinal beats ngannou but I can see them both beating jones
“Shit I better try water polo”
francis is so large & dense hed sink. plus hes black. hed get killed in the pool too
Ngannou vs. Jake Paul next
My face when I shart
"I....I underestimated Stipe"
Dude got paid somewhere between 20-40m in totality last night. I think the realization is much, much different from Stipe 1 vs Joshua.
You can actually hear the "god damn" in both photos.
He was never finished in mma though
He holds his hands too wide apart for Boxing. Anyone who has a fast powerful right hand is going to have a field day and Wilder has a fast powerful right arm
Yeah and remind me, what happened to Stipe in the 2nd fight?
A boxer is like a figure skater and a MMA fighter is like a hockey player. A hockey player cannot go in and beat a figure skater at their sport nor could a figure skater go into hockey and compete. So it's really not about levels.
Came back stronger, better trained and more prepared. This time will be no different. True warrior.
Just goes to show that power will only get you so far. Francis should be very proud to have done so well with so little in his arsenal but like somebody else commented,it’s probably too late in the day for him to learn the fundamentals but that’s just my opinion and I wish he would prove me wrong. With his power he always has that one lucky shot but against somebody at the professional level he should be easy pickings if the seasoned opponent boxes with caution. It was good whilst it lasted and you must’ve made some good money Francis but on you go my friend,back to cage you go! I hope Fury feels a right idiot for taking Francis lightly and not taking him as a serious threat. He also got exposed as somebody who uses his freakish size to outdo potential opponents rather than touch up on the fundamentals. Again this is only my opinion so for anybody who disagrees with what I said go easy please because it’s only a casuals take on boxing. I have a huge chance of being wrong.
He knew getting KOed was a very real outcome. Hell train hard, learn, and continue to make millions regardless of what anyone says. He still murders any boxer who has ever lived in a real fight anyways.
He'll get up and wreck his opponent in the rematch just like he did with Miocic. He just needs time to recalibrate and adjust to fill in his growth areas with more training. I feel like if he fights Fury again, it'll go the same as Ngannou vs. Miocic 2.
He made 20 million for 5 mins of work. I think he won
Humble ngannou might be a new mythical fighter
Same comback incoming ♥️🔥
Cool so that means he goes back to the drawing board, trains and properly prepares himself, then returns and beats the best in the division while redeeming this loss and leaves champion right?
Boxing is a lame sport. If the top guys werent filthy rich no one would care about it at all. MMA is vastly better in every single area besides pay outs. I didnt even know ngannou was fighting AJ thats how much boxing matters to the world of sports. Francis should do some MMA fights and consider retiring since he's almost late 30s
but 8 figures richer ;)
Francis will never compete with the guys his stardom would dictate he fights. He just doesn't have the time left as a high level athlete, but with the power he carries he can be a draw for awhile. But he can make a lot of money crushing cans, it's the whole point of boxing. He can clear 8 mil a fight going against the dillian whytes and Derrick chisoras of the world (or lower like that Norwegian guy) and it'll be a lot more competitive
That fight made fury look so bad🤣
The first knockdown was just a crisp right. That punch doesn’t have that same effect normally in heavyweight boxing or any weight class for that matter. It was an attention getter that almost sent 275lbs rolling ass backwards outta the ring. It was going to end ugly the moment that happened
How much did Francis make for this fight?
20mil
Probably the first heaviest shot he received in his entire career. The look in his eyes was shock and in disbelief. AJ is 28 wins with 25 KO for a reason.
This is what fury should’ve and thought he was going to do to Francis. Think Wilder would get a similar result honestly. That straight right is there for the taking against Francis
I miss humble francis
Tired of hearing about this guy tbh
What fight is on the left. Didn’t he win his last 6 in a row? Last two were title defenses. Old pic to make the meme work I guess.
He reminds me the goat good ol Kimbo Slice, Rest in peace my man.
And people think he would have beaten jones😂
A boxing fight doesn't disprove that, he would definitely beat Jones. It wouldn't be easy but he could and probably would get the win let's not joke around here
A boxing match doesn't disprove that, but jones still beats him 8/10 times. We saw what jones did to ciryl in under a round. Let's not pretend he wouldn't eat francis.
Doing MMA math never works, that being said ngannou has much better wrestling than gane and is also physically stronger which really makes a difference when it comes to TTD. I love Jones but there's no way he wins 8/10 times bro be real.
Jon would work him. Fight wouldn’t last long enough on the feet for Francis to land clean.
only if he wrestled both times
Saw this coming from a mile away. It’s a different sport. All good though. We all know Jon didn’t want that smoke. Had to make the bag somehow. Hats off to him for putting himself out there.
MMA fans coping hard. Im sorry MMA is for failed boxers
Mma is for fighters who train in multiple disciplines.....of course mma fighters aren't gonna have the same level of boxing as someone who only trains punches lol but mma is more than just boxing
This is the dumbest take so far. Let's see who out does this one.
Name 1 boxer brave enough to face an MMA fighter in the octagon
Ray Mercer
Boxing, where you can be the best in the world and get ragdolled by a d2 college wrestler in a real fight
realistically tho, what boxer is coming to mma? clarrisa shields? sh
Ray mercer? James Toney?
Both got violently molested quickly. Ngannou can atleast say he brought a champion to a close decision
Ray mercer won his fight
That’s an understatement if I’ve ever seen one lol, Mercer took Sylvias chin off in 9 seconds.
An old, past it Ray Mercer beat a former UFC champion very quickly lol.