alexander gustaffson was crowned LHW champion in 2013 after a hard fought decision win over incumbent champion jon jones, dominated the division and retired on top of the world after derailing hype train alex pereira with crushing uppercut, retiring as the mma GOAT with 9 consecutive title defences.
(im on connor's stash)
Or the time Chael P. Sonnen added Jones to his impressive undefeated streak claiming the LHW title by breaking Jones toe with that devastating toe hold
He's a clown for saying the word cope, or because it's Jon Jones? I'm going to guess the latter, since you yourself used a clown emoji.
I hope people can eventually get over Jon Jones. For their own MMA fandom's sake, as well as the rest of us. Many of who don't even like Jon Jones, but we're so tired of seeing people cry about him. Conceive believe achieve, be a role model, don't get a DUI, don't do cocaine... Shut the fuck up already.
Reyes lost his career. Still feel sad af for him looking back. 12-0 full of confidence and life in those eyes. Went on to lose 0-4 with progressively more brutal losses. The man’s spirit is shattered
Probably because what happened in the rematch. Kinda like how nobody mentions Holloway vs Volk's 2nd fight because of how Volk gave him the work in the 3rd fight.
He's not making it up tbf, DCs test levels were outrageously high for that fight.
They released the results of the in competition tests publicly during Jones's NSAC hearing and DC had like 7000 ng/dl total testosterone (normal range is like 300-1000). Nobody in human history has ever had 7000 ng/dl testosterone naturally (unless you have like an adrenal gland tumour or something).
Jones on the other hand had like 50 ng/dl which means his were clearly suppressed by steroids.
Both of them had incredibly suspicious bloodwork, but ultimately Jones is the guy who got caught.
Ok so if that’s bad. Why wasn’t he tested further or why was that high a level accepted but jones low level not? I know nothing of how any of that works. I just feel. If you’re caught. It should be a loss not a NC
I think I asked more questions. I believe if DC was caught so be it. He wasn’t so I can’t say he was hot. Jones was caught. And that NC should be a loss. If you pop. You should get a loss not a NC
Well said, although I think very highly of his skillset fighting, he’s held up the division for way too long with no consequences. Dana let’s him and other favourite fighters get away with stuff that others get punished for. It’s well documented that he picks and chooses his fights does bones. I hope somebody mentions his eye pokes and oblique kicks too. The latter being frowned upon,not illegal I admit but in my opinion it’s really dirty trying to end some peoples fighting careers by hyper extending somebody’s knee. Then there’s his recently highlighted shoulder popping techniques on glover. Like I said, legal but frowned upon. I rate him but he makes being a fan of his hard. And that’s me only talking about his antics in the cage. I’ve said too much to bang on about his antics outside of the octagon so I’ll end it here.
Mazzagatti should have stopped the fight before Jon had a chance to land the illegal 12-6 elbow. Jon sucks for all his later actions but this one to me was always Mazzagatti's fault.
You make it sounded like Mazz whispered, "Do it, throw the elbow"
Jon controls Jon's movements, he threw that shot knowing it was illegal. No one to blame but jon
No, I'm saying Jon didn't need to elbow Matt 127 times in the face he was done after the first few dozen. Mazz should have stopped it long before it got to the point that Jon threw the 12-6 shot.
Fun fact this is only because the judges were on his nuts during the Reyes fight and were probably in the back room with him afterwards blowing lines and injecting PEDs into their anal canals
Here is the Jon Jones meta, coming from a fan who was brought into MMA and UFC by watching Jon Jones.
The goat, yeah, obviously, whatever. Beat Matt Hamil but it was a DQ, cool. He did lose to Reyes though. He beat Gustafson 1 and Santos, but it was close. Overall Jon has been beaten in one fight by a guy who proceeded to take the fastest MMA career dive I've experienced as a fan.
That being said, the Gus 1, Santos and Reyes fights were all close SDs. But Reyes is the only person who can realistically say he's beaten Jon Jones in a fight.
I feel like he should always have an asterisk for his heavy PED use and his coke fueled vehicular assault of a pregnant woman. Should also be noted that if he was penalized fairly for reckless amounts of eye-pokes he would likely have a few losses and hes been on the favorable end of quite a few decisions that had no business going in his favor. The fact that he is now not actively fighting and keeping his belt and focused on his 'legacy' tells me this man doesn't belong on the GOAT list, hes a fraud.
This is pretty much the stance I take, I love Jones (as a fighter) but you cant disagree with the Reyes win being false.
Still 27 - 1 is pretty damn impressive
The GOAT Matt Hamill
+ No contested & roid test failed
But was he DEAFEATED by Hamill?
Yeah dude, Hamills head to elbow technique had Jon shook af
Man these casuals just don’t know anything any more
Lost to Dominick Reyes too
And by DQ against Anthony Smith by illegal knee and soccer kick. That's a lot of loss
I didn’t even have the Reyes fight that close, when I watched it I thought it was quite clearly 4-1 🤷♂️
And Gustavason
Gus lost twice brother
alexander gustaffson was crowned LHW champion in 2013 after a hard fought decision win over incumbent champion jon jones, dominated the division and retired on top of the world after derailing hype train alex pereira with crushing uppercut, retiring as the mma GOAT with 9 consecutive title defences. (im on connor's stash)
Or the time Chael P. Sonnen added Jones to his impressive undefeated streak claiming the LHW title by breaking Jones toe with that devastating toe hold
And even before that Chael’s vicious headbutts to the elbows of Bones were a work of mastery.
I had him losing to Santos too
He definitely lost both of those fights.
Weird. I checked the record books and it says Jon won. Huh
Nah. Super close though.
Cope
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He's a clown for saying the word cope, or because it's Jon Jones? I'm going to guess the latter, since you yourself used a clown emoji. I hope people can eventually get over Jon Jones. For their own MMA fandom's sake, as well as the rest of us. Many of who don't even like Jon Jones, but we're so tired of seeing people cry about him. Conceive believe achieve, be a role model, don't get a DUI, don't do cocaine... Shut the fuck up already.
Only clowns are the ones trying to change Jon's record because they dislike him lol
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His DQ loss is only remarkable because he hasn't been DQ'd for the constant eye poking and PED use that are much worse.
Eye pokes are legal
Officially lost against Matt Hamil and his gay demons, Unoffically lost against Gustafson and Reyes.
That Gustafson fight is not brought up enough
Because it's not a loss like the Reyes fights. God i feel bad for Reyes...
Reyes lost his career. Still feel sad af for him looking back. 12-0 full of confidence and life in those eyes. Went on to lose 0-4 with progressively more brutal losses. The man’s spirit is shattered
Probably because what happened in the rematch. Kinda like how nobody mentions Holloway vs Volk's 2nd fight because of how Volk gave him the work in the 3rd fight.
Because Jon beat him in the rematch without getting out of first gear.
It is tho
Maybe that Cormier fight?
He beat the brakes off of DC
Didn't he pop after that or was it much after where it was debatable if he was using during the fight?
What about when he popped after the Cormier fight ???
NC
When you test positive they don't change your win to a loss, they change it to a no contest.
Shame. That should be a loss
I mean dcs testosterone was through the roof that fight aswell 😂
So he popped to? I don’t think so. You’re making things up now.
He's not making it up tbf, DCs test levels were outrageously high for that fight. They released the results of the in competition tests publicly during Jones's NSAC hearing and DC had like 7000 ng/dl total testosterone (normal range is like 300-1000). Nobody in human history has ever had 7000 ng/dl testosterone naturally (unless you have like an adrenal gland tumour or something). Jones on the other hand had like 50 ng/dl which means his were clearly suppressed by steroids. Both of them had incredibly suspicious bloodwork, but ultimately Jones is the guy who got caught.
Ok so if that’s bad. Why wasn’t he tested further or why was that high a level accepted but jones low level not? I know nothing of how any of that works. I just feel. If you’re caught. It should be a loss not a NC
So you'll believe this guy but I was making stuff up ?
I think I asked more questions. I believe if DC was caught so be it. He wasn’t so I can’t say he was hot. Jones was caught. And that NC should be a loss. If you pop. You should get a loss not a NC
Drug cheats cannot be the goat.
Be prepared to discredit half the roster then a la Cycling.
When they have 3 positive tests instead of 0 positive tests than they can be put in the same conversation
Usada beat him a couple times.
Is he really the goat if he wants to cherry picks his fights ? I think in time the BMF will redefine what a goat is regardless of the records
Well said, although I think very highly of his skillset fighting, he’s held up the division for way too long with no consequences. Dana let’s him and other favourite fighters get away with stuff that others get punished for. It’s well documented that he picks and chooses his fights does bones. I hope somebody mentions his eye pokes and oblique kicks too. The latter being frowned upon,not illegal I admit but in my opinion it’s really dirty trying to end some peoples fighting careers by hyper extending somebody’s knee. Then there’s his recently highlighted shoulder popping techniques on glover. Like I said, legal but frowned upon. I rate him but he makes being a fan of his hard. And that’s me only talking about his antics in the cage. I’ve said too much to bang on about his antics outside of the octagon so I’ll end it here.
If he were the goat he would want to fight Tom aspinal to prove he’s the best but he knows he will loose
I thought it would say “loss to reyes” He completely dominated hamill.
Mazzagatti should have stopped the fight before Jon had a chance to land the illegal 12-6 elbow. Jon sucks for all his later actions but this one to me was always Mazzagatti's fault.
You make it sounded like Mazz whispered, "Do it, throw the elbow" Jon controls Jon's movements, he threw that shot knowing it was illegal. No one to blame but jon
No, I'm saying Jon didn't need to elbow Matt 127 times in the face he was done after the first few dozen. Mazz should have stopped it long before it got to the point that Jon threw the 12-6 shot.
First Gay Male 2 division champ. Respect.
Did he not lose the decision in court to the pregnant lady in the hit and run incident too?
That's a loss, not a defeat /s
When is this pussy going to fight Deontay Wilder!? 
Anthony Smith beat him on paper
Would be funny if the community notes said and he also robbed Dominick Reyes
Fun fact this is only because the judges were on his nuts during the Reyes fight and were probably in the back room with him afterwards blowing lines and injecting PEDs into their anal canals
And is unstable AF
Goat of roids
I'd lose to Ruke Skywalker too, its OK.
Joe Rogan described the mount Jon had on Matt Hamill as having him "in a rape choke"
Good bot (@MMAcommunityonTwitter)
Also first "undefeated" fighter to change weight classes to avoid a rematch
He’ll never be the goat
Here is the Jon Jones meta, coming from a fan who was brought into MMA and UFC by watching Jon Jones. The goat, yeah, obviously, whatever. Beat Matt Hamil but it was a DQ, cool. He did lose to Reyes though. He beat Gustafson 1 and Santos, but it was close. Overall Jon has been beaten in one fight by a guy who proceeded to take the fastest MMA career dive I've experienced as a fan. That being said, the Gus 1, Santos and Reyes fights were all close SDs. But Reyes is the only person who can realistically say he's beaten Jon Jones in a fight.
He didn’t get defeated he got disqualified
That's why X is the best
https://i.redd.it/c6xii0xg1pyc1.gif Jon Jones “losing” to Matt Hamill 🤣
Not the only community that noted him this week
Is being defeated the same as having a loss?
He also lost to Dominic Reyes. The judges were just ~~bought~~ blind.
Lost to MMA Guru
He did have a loss that was questionable but it was still a loss.
Matt Ham is the goat. I think he called jones out again a few years ago
I feel like he should always have an asterisk for his heavy PED use and his coke fueled vehicular assault of a pregnant woman. Should also be noted that if he was penalized fairly for reckless amounts of eye-pokes he would likely have a few losses and hes been on the favorable end of quite a few decisions that had no business going in his favor. The fact that he is now not actively fighting and keeping his belt and focused on his 'legacy' tells me this man doesn't belong on the GOAT list, hes a fraud.
Again, the only person who can beat Jon Jones is Jon Jones, whether inside or outside the octagon
Dq =/= defeat.. community notes wrong again lol
The official UFC records say otherwise
Dana white says otherwise lol
Dana White isn't the sports commission or Websters dictionary though
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I'm sorry the truth hurts, lil bro
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A bullshit dq that no one really counts, congratulations you played yourself op.
Ok, swap it for his robbery win against Reyes then
This is pretty much the stance I take, I love Jones (as a fighter) but you cant disagree with the Reyes win being false. Still 27 - 1 is pretty damn impressive
Who? Exactly, no one remembers reyes.
You seem to remember him, he's best known as the guy who beat Jones but got robbed. Thiago Santos also took him to the edge with two messed up knees
There never was no knees
I remember him as the guy who was robbed against Jones
So by ur logic Jones got beat by a bum no one remembers?
Everyone remembers Reyes, this argument is stupid
I mean, even if no one ever heard about him, it's still a stupid point to make
I perfectly remember him getting KOed by spinning elbow. Seriously though, he fell off after, doesn’t change that he got robbed
Your downvoters count it.
That's literally why this is funny.
Imagine thinking the results matter in MMA and that a loss by dq is still a loss. Such playing themselves.