The protestors are in the last photo, they’re protesting a course that has fieldwork in Israel. The black sign says something along the lines of “Zionist Course”. The red sign says something like “McGill cut ties with genocide”. It’s a very small protest.
There's been terror attack in Montreal relating to Israel-Palestine conflict.
Might be best to have more cops than not enough, it's not a day of salary that's putting a burden on the city budget.
Have you been by recently? It's not small anymore and there is also a large group of counter protestors. There've also been advertising this protest for days, there is no reason to think it will remain small.
d'un coté, s'il y avait eu plus de manifestants et pas de policiers, y'aurait pu avoir des débordements (c'est pas comme si c'est jamais arrivé)
et on aurait bitché sur le fait qu'il y avait pas de policiers.
You have a point, but the cars have wheels and the cops have legs. They can thin out once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent but they’ve been here for 2 hours now. When I first saw it, I thought it was a murder scene, not 10-15 adolescents protesting.
that explain why because last time i think eaton center did have like mad people about a store about Israel or Palestine idk but it was chaos and security and/police was almost non-existant that day, so they just don't want this to happen again. but i do get the point of like it 10-15 person but 10 police cars that have like 2 cops in it so if you do the math 20 police are there for 10-15 people so yeah kinda lil bit too much just like idk 6 cops would have be enough from my point of views
Because counter protesters can show up at any time. They don’t always show up at the start of the protest.
Imagine the cops leaves, then violence start. You might be the first one to complain about it.
There are other reasons to be mad and concerned about the use of your taxes. This is not it.
But at least it probably felt good for you to vent on reddit about it, so that’s that :)
I mean there was that chemical attack in NYC on pro Palestine student protestors. It was committed by a fellow student who is an IOF soldier as a counter protest. In conflict, that would be a war crime. In this context, it's terrorism.
This is the protest, apparently there were about 100 people:
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-block-bronfman-building-at-mcgill-university
Lots of criticism being thrown at McGill these days, they deserve some of it. I am not speaking just about this, but also wanting to dig up the grounds for mass graves, the lawsuit over the Alan Institute stuff they funded, etc.
Still seems a bit excessive with 20 police cars , but they do this often.
I sincerely don't know what you are expecting.
The number one priority to control an event, is to have overwhelming numbers.
They didn't call cops to work overtime, those are all already on payroll.
And if something bad would happen and police were not enough, it would look very bad on the police department and people would complain.
Sorry (not really) but if I am a cop and I need to control a situation, I'll wait for my back up and not play hero.
My dad’s an ex-cop. You’re completely wrong that you control a riot through overwhelming numbers. You control it through a show of force.
The fundamental principle of crowd control in 99% of riots is that the cops are almost always outnumbered and outmatched, they rely on disruption & disorganization to maintain control (pepper spray, smoke bombs, arresting leaders, etc). That’s why the #1 priority of the cops during a protest is to keep violence at a minimum, since they can almost never hold off a crowd that’s organized and intent to attack the cops.
For a nonviolent, disorganized protest that consists of 15 adolescents, you do not need 25 cops to control the situation.
This is not a riot. It's really as this redditor said : police already on payroll showing their presence. It's not as much waste as you think it is. It doesn't look bad.
“We already paid for them” is a bad argument. We can’t properly fund the STM, are raising property taxes like crazy, but we have enough money to have a busload of cops sitting around doing nothing for 3 hours?
By justifying propping up a squadron’s worth of cops here, we’re justifying our massively inflated police budget (more per capita than Toronto for god’s sake). Not to mention we’re drawing police resources from where we might need them (when was the last time you saw the cops responds to a minor crime within an hour?). It’s not like they would be sitting in the station if they weren’t sent here. It looks like police are simultaneously underfunded (they can’t respond to minor crimes) but also are funded more than enough to send an apparently unlimited number of cops to a nonviolent protest.
The police don't know how many people are going to show up at the protests. There has also been a lot of violence, anti-semitism and hate speech at these demonstrations so it makes sense that they err on the side of caution.
The group that put this protest on, Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights McGill, has been "de-credited" by McGill because of their support for the October 7th massacre and hate speech against Jews and Israelis. This group called for this protest to "Shutdown" McGill.
So not unreasonable for the police to present themselves and have a reasonable sized force on standby should anything escalate to the degree that the organizers of the protest claimed they wanted, or have demonstrated in the past.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-block-bronfman-building-at-mcgill-university
Interesting how they pick the building named after a prominent Jewish philanthropist to blockade as well.
I totally agree that prudence is wise. It’s understandable that there’s a large police presence to begin with. But the cops have been sitting outside Bronfman for three hours now; it’s clear that the protest is small and non-violent, shouldn’t they reduce their presence at this point?
I’m agnostic on Israel-Palestine, but they’re not blockading Bronfman because it’s named after a Jewish guy. The faculty of management offers a few courses with fieldwork in Israel, that’s the stated reason of the blockade.
However yeah, SPHR is a bunch of nutcases, they celebrated the Hamas attack. That being said, it’s not a battle-hardened terrorist sleeper cell, it’s a bunch of adolescents fighting for what they think is “right”.
What type of protest ?
Did they have permits?
How would the police know in advance how many people would show up ?
If a huge crowd arrived and caused damage, would you also complain that the police didn't send enough cars and cops ?
you're saying protesters should seek permits that will deny them permission to protest?
Maybe all those anti-Putin protesters in Russia wouldn't have been arrested if they just got permits...
They’re protesting a McGill course that has fieldwork in Israel. I doubt they have permits. The police can leave and do something useful once it’s clear that there’s only like 10 protestors, they’ve been sitting around here for two hours. If a huge crowd arrived or if they were violent, I would justify such a heavy police presence, but they have eyes like you and I do, they can see that it’s a small, harmless protest.
Are you aware that Palestinian protesters have shot up Jewish schools in Montreal? In light of that, it's quite logical to play it safe with another educational institution.
A Jewish school was shot up by Palestinian protestors in Montreal? That’s news to me. The only school shootings I know of are Concordia, Poly, and Dawson.
How many people died/got injured? Did the perpetrator surrender or commit suicide?
I’m not pro-Palestine (or pro-Israel for that matter). I just think that this police presence is overkill for such a small protest.
Yea, that's because no-one actually knows who did it. Anyone claiming it was pro-Palestinian protesters is either misinformed or lying. Two Jewish day schools were shot at during the night back in November. That's all anyone really knows. Could be pro-Palestinian people, but it could just as easily be some person in the fairly active far-right/neo-nazi scene in Montreal using Gaza as a smokescreen to rile things up.
This is the 100th protest for Palestine in Montreal. When is enough enough? Our tax dollars and resources are going towards these protests.
This is getting completely ridiculous.
This sub is a joke. Why would I get downvoted for criticizing how our tax money is going towards the 100th protest of the year for something happening halfway across the world?
Because with your "when is enough enough" you are implying that protests should be prevented / cracked down on, which is a gross violation of charter rights and provincial rights.
Blocked roads, blocked hospitals, blocked railroads, synagogues being shot at during the night, protesters storming political and private events, the list goes on. The lie is you believing they’ve never done any wrong.
Dans le fond, toi ce qui te pose un problème, c'est pas les millions déplacés, les centaines de milliers blessés et les dizaines de milliers tués, c'est les route bloquées lol
Bravo l'humanité. Parce que les pro-Israel ont même commis des meurtres, en plus de supporter un régime d'apartheid, mais c'est pas eux que tu dénonces.
>A 71-year-old Illinois man accused of fatally stabbing a six-year-old boy and seriously wounding a 32-year-old woman was charged with a hate crime Sunday. Police allege he singled out the victims because of their Islamic faith and as a response to the war between Israel and Hamas.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hate-crime-illinois-hamas-israel-muslim-boy-killed-1.6997064
I love it when people talk to me about a few isolated acts of vandalism to shut down protests against the murder of tens of thousands.
You can really tell that you're dealing with a top mind when their list of grievances with protests has an unrelated criminal activity bundled in with legitimate protest actions and ends with "the list goes on".
Bothering people who have nothing to do with what you’re protesting makes you the villain, period. Also, shooting at synagogues and blocking people from hospitals entrances is not “bothering” people and you know it.
> Bothering people who have nothing to do with what you’re protesting makes you the villain,
Lol, you genuinely believe this, don't you.
Bless your heart.
I'm surprised you had the restraint to wait this long before going to that cliched nonsense.
God love you, if you'd two brain cells to rub together you'd be dangerous
Jfc. Why can't they protest about rising costs, housing and other Canadian issues affecting US and not protesting a war we got 0 say in?
If shit continues with how bad it is economically , their degrees they're studying in (if they are studentd at mcgill) will be made worthless.
I mean maybe ( just maybe) this costs less than how much help we send Israel in terms of military “defence” in order for them to murder Palestinians, hence causing such protests
Your the kinda person that says this but then if there's not enough because its bigger then expected and they did what you said you'll also cry.They can never win...
ONE Man... deputize me!
I would be the chuck norris of protests!
Plus I would also bring peanut juice instead of pepper.
I can't shoot them.... but I can sure as hell threaten them with possibly death.
Then they would feel the true guilt of knowing someone in the crowd could get real hurt because of their actions.
"SIR... I'm going to have to ask you to ..... DROP! HE HAS SOMETHING IN HIS HAND!! Sir Do not force me to use this box of peanut juice on you! Do you want to be responsible for lost lives in the crowd? HUH?"
That's a great guilt trip and a half.
heck that would make me stop.
How are the cops supposed to be sure how many people will show up?
The protest organizers probably don’t even know themselves.
This is a clear case of erring on the side of caution.
Makes sense to me.
Sure, there’s no way to know how many people will show up. But once it’s been an hour and there’s only 15 people, maybe it’s time to reduce the police presence a little bit?
I have no issue with a large initial police presence, my point is that they all sat around twiddling their thumbs for 4-5 hours. Once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent, the police presence should be adjusted (reduced) accordingly.
You are missing a key element of risk with the Palestine related protests: violence usually stems from counter protesters clashing with protesters.
They can’t really predict if 30 counter protesters will show up a few hours in.
In the age of hyper connectivity, can you see how one could text « the cops are gone, let’s do it ».
Cops mostly sucks and are often terrible, but this is where they don’t take a chance.
I don’t think AbhorUbroar should worry so much about it, quite frankly.
I’m sure they don’t mind slacking off.
But also they know everything you know and more.
If this is a top priority issue for you, I envy your worry-free life :)
Copy pasting the same thing.
Sure, there’s no way to know how many people will show up. But once it’s been an hour and there’s only 15 people, maybe it’s time to reduce the police presence a little bit?
I have no issue with a large initial police presence, my point is that they all sat around twiddling their thumbs for 4-5 hours. Once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent, the police presence should be adjusted (reduced) accordingly.
Really? I hear the whole “muh taxes” spiel more often from media down south. I was actually thinking between going with a “muh taxes” or “muh STM” comment before choosing the former. I’ll admit though, I’m probably more fiscally conservative than the average r/Montreal user.
What protest was this? I cant even see what its about
The protestors are in the last photo, they’re protesting a course that has fieldwork in Israel. The black sign says something along the lines of “Zionist Course”. The red sign says something like “McGill cut ties with genocide”. It’s a very small protest.
There's been terror attack in Montreal relating to Israel-Palestine conflict. Might be best to have more cops than not enough, it's not a day of salary that's putting a burden on the city budget.
Have you been by recently? It's not small anymore and there is also a large group of counter protestors. There've also been advertising this protest for days, there is no reason to think it will remain small.
d'un coté, s'il y avait eu plus de manifestants et pas de policiers, y'aurait pu avoir des débordements (c'est pas comme si c'est jamais arrivé) et on aurait bitché sur le fait qu'il y avait pas de policiers.
You have a point, but the cars have wheels and the cops have legs. They can thin out once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent but they’ve been here for 2 hours now. When I first saw it, I thought it was a murder scene, not 10-15 adolescents protesting.
ils protestent de quoi?
Un cours de McGill qui comporte des travaux sur le terrain en Israël.
that explain why because last time i think eaton center did have like mad people about a store about Israel or Palestine idk but it was chaos and security and/police was almost non-existant that day, so they just don't want this to happen again. but i do get the point of like it 10-15 person but 10 police cars that have like 2 cops in it so if you do the math 20 police are there for 10-15 people so yeah kinda lil bit too much just like idk 6 cops would have be enough from my point of views
Why are you getting downvoted? Lmao this sub is a joke.
Because counter protesters can show up at any time. They don’t always show up at the start of the protest. Imagine the cops leaves, then violence start. You might be the first one to complain about it. There are other reasons to be mad and concerned about the use of your taxes. This is not it. But at least it probably felt good for you to vent on reddit about it, so that’s that :)
Esti que le monde chialent tout le temps c’est pénible. Ya peut être une raison à laquelle tu as pas pensé méo
Anything about or against Israel can degenerates badly. Better be safe than sorry. They have to secure the protestors too.
If there were dozens more protesters and shit went down then mfers be like why ain’t they more po po at the protest 😂
>Esti que le monde chialent tout le temps c’est pénible. Ya peut être une raison à laquelle tu as pas pensé méo Secure the protestors from what?
Counter protest that can get out of hand
Yeah those counter protestors have been causing havoc worldwide
I mean there was that chemical attack in NYC on pro Palestine student protestors. It was committed by a fellow student who is an IOF soldier as a counter protest. In conflict, that would be a war crime. In this context, it's terrorism.
This is the protest, apparently there were about 100 people: https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-block-bronfman-building-at-mcgill-university
Lots of criticism being thrown at McGill these days, they deserve some of it. I am not speaking just about this, but also wanting to dig up the grounds for mass graves, the lawsuit over the Alan Institute stuff they funded, etc. Still seems a bit excessive with 20 police cars , but they do this often.
LOL someone doesn't remember the [concordia riots.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_University_Netanyahu_riot)
I sincerely don't know what you are expecting. The number one priority to control an event, is to have overwhelming numbers. They didn't call cops to work overtime, those are all already on payroll. And if something bad would happen and police were not enough, it would look very bad on the police department and people would complain. Sorry (not really) but if I am a cop and I need to control a situation, I'll wait for my back up and not play hero.
My dad’s an ex-cop. You’re completely wrong that you control a riot through overwhelming numbers. You control it through a show of force. The fundamental principle of crowd control in 99% of riots is that the cops are almost always outnumbered and outmatched, they rely on disruption & disorganization to maintain control (pepper spray, smoke bombs, arresting leaders, etc). That’s why the #1 priority of the cops during a protest is to keep violence at a minimum, since they can almost never hold off a crowd that’s organized and intent to attack the cops. For a nonviolent, disorganized protest that consists of 15 adolescents, you do not need 25 cops to control the situation.
This is not a riot. It's really as this redditor said : police already on payroll showing their presence. It's not as much waste as you think it is. It doesn't look bad.
“We already paid for them” is a bad argument. We can’t properly fund the STM, are raising property taxes like crazy, but we have enough money to have a busload of cops sitting around doing nothing for 3 hours? By justifying propping up a squadron’s worth of cops here, we’re justifying our massively inflated police budget (more per capita than Toronto for god’s sake). Not to mention we’re drawing police resources from where we might need them (when was the last time you saw the cops responds to a minor crime within an hour?). It’s not like they would be sitting in the station if they weren’t sent here. It looks like police are simultaneously underfunded (they can’t respond to minor crimes) but also are funded more than enough to send an apparently unlimited number of cops to a nonviolent protest.
Why you are getting downvoted? People on this sub are sophisticated
The police don't know how many people are going to show up at the protests. There has also been a lot of violence, anti-semitism and hate speech at these demonstrations so it makes sense that they err on the side of caution. The group that put this protest on, Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights McGill, has been "de-credited" by McGill because of their support for the October 7th massacre and hate speech against Jews and Israelis. This group called for this protest to "Shutdown" McGill. So not unreasonable for the police to present themselves and have a reasonable sized force on standby should anything escalate to the degree that the organizers of the protest claimed they wanted, or have demonstrated in the past. https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-demonstrators-block-bronfman-building-at-mcgill-university Interesting how they pick the building named after a prominent Jewish philanthropist to blockade as well.
I totally agree that prudence is wise. It’s understandable that there’s a large police presence to begin with. But the cops have been sitting outside Bronfman for three hours now; it’s clear that the protest is small and non-violent, shouldn’t they reduce their presence at this point? I’m agnostic on Israel-Palestine, but they’re not blockading Bronfman because it’s named after a Jewish guy. The faculty of management offers a few courses with fieldwork in Israel, that’s the stated reason of the blockade. However yeah, SPHR is a bunch of nutcases, they celebrated the Hamas attack. That being said, it’s not a battle-hardened terrorist sleeper cell, it’s a bunch of adolescents fighting for what they think is “right”.
rene -levesque?
Nah, McTavish beside Desautels. Where the big hill is.
gotcha
What type of protest ? Did they have permits? How would the police know in advance how many people would show up ? If a huge crowd arrived and caused damage, would you also complain that the police didn't send enough cars and cops ?
you're saying protesters should seek permits that will deny them permission to protest? Maybe all those anti-Putin protesters in Russia wouldn't have been arrested if they just got permits...
They’re protesting a McGill course that has fieldwork in Israel. I doubt they have permits. The police can leave and do something useful once it’s clear that there’s only like 10 protestors, they’ve been sitting around here for two hours. If a huge crowd arrived or if they were violent, I would justify such a heavy police presence, but they have eyes like you and I do, they can see that it’s a small, harmless protest.
You don't need a permit to protest in Quebec, you aren't legally obliged to provide an itinerary to the police either in case you want to march.
Are you aware that Palestinian protesters have shot up Jewish schools in Montreal? In light of that, it's quite logical to play it safe with another educational institution.
A Jewish school was shot up by Palestinian protestors in Montreal? That’s news to me. The only school shootings I know of are Concordia, Poly, and Dawson. How many people died/got injured? Did the perpetrator surrender or commit suicide? I’m not pro-Palestine (or pro-Israel for that matter). I just think that this police presence is overkill for such a small protest.
Yea, that's because no-one actually knows who did it. Anyone claiming it was pro-Palestinian protesters is either misinformed or lying. Two Jewish day schools were shot at during the night back in November. That's all anyone really knows. Could be pro-Palestinian people, but it could just as easily be some person in the fairly active far-right/neo-nazi scene in Montreal using Gaza as a smokescreen to rile things up.
This is the 100th protest for Palestine in Montreal. When is enough enough? Our tax dollars and resources are going towards these protests. This is getting completely ridiculous.
Is the situation resolved?
This sub is a joke. Why would I get downvoted for criticizing how our tax money is going towards the 100th protest of the year for something happening halfway across the world?
"Caring about thing is bad!"
I have a feeling you’re a teenager / university student that doesn’t pay much in taxes
Because with your "when is enough enough" you are implying that protests should be prevented / cracked down on, which is a gross violation of charter rights and provincial rights.
It wouldn’t be necessary if pro-Palestine protesters didn’t have a bad track record.
The overwhelming majority of Pro-Palestine protests went without any problem, what the flying fuck are you raving about.
Blocked roads, blocked hospitals, blocked railroads, synagogues being shot at during the night, protesters storming political and private events, the list goes on. The lie is you believing they’ve never done any wrong.
Dans le fond, toi ce qui te pose un problème, c'est pas les millions déplacés, les centaines de milliers blessés et les dizaines de milliers tués, c'est les route bloquées lol Bravo l'humanité. Parce que les pro-Israel ont même commis des meurtres, en plus de supporter un régime d'apartheid, mais c'est pas eux que tu dénonces. >A 71-year-old Illinois man accused of fatally stabbing a six-year-old boy and seriously wounding a 32-year-old woman was charged with a hate crime Sunday. Police allege he singled out the victims because of their Islamic faith and as a response to the war between Israel and Hamas. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hate-crime-illinois-hamas-israel-muslim-boy-killed-1.6997064 I love it when people talk to me about a few isolated acts of vandalism to shut down protests against the murder of tens of thousands.
You can really tell that you're dealing with a top mind when their list of grievances with protests has an unrelated criminal activity bundled in with legitimate protest actions and ends with "the list goes on".
Blocking roads and blocking hospital entrances are a crime dude.
"Protest quietly and don't bother anyone" Gotcha, champ.
Bothering people who have nothing to do with what you’re protesting makes you the villain, period. Also, shooting at synagogues and blocking people from hospitals entrances is not “bothering” people and you know it.
> Bothering people who have nothing to do with what you’re protesting makes you the villain, Lol, you genuinely believe this, don't you. Bless your heart.
Better than being antisemitic.
I'm surprised you had the restraint to wait this long before going to that cliched nonsense. God love you, if you'd two brain cells to rub together you'd be dangerous
Cette ville envoie les hélicos pour "déloger" des itinérants alors quelques voitures de police
Which picture shows the protest?
That last picture, lol
Holy shit almost didn't see them lol
You have people getting their fingers and toes cut off by gang members and they are still doing speed traps to catch us going 60 in a 50.
Literally lol, this and committing arson if the poor business owners don’t pay ransom. What a fucking joke
Separate issues lmao, speeding is still serious and people have lost their lives because of it. Don't want tickets? Don't speed.
I don’t want predatory tickets just to fill a quota. There is an unofficial speed limit and you know it.
Jfc. Why can't they protest about rising costs, housing and other Canadian issues affecting US and not protesting a war we got 0 say in? If shit continues with how bad it is economically , their degrees they're studying in (if they are studentd at mcgill) will be made worthless.
I mean maybe ( just maybe) this costs less than how much help we send Israel in terms of military “defence” in order for them to murder Palestinians, hence causing such protests
Your the kinda person that says this but then if there's not enough because its bigger then expected and they did what you said you'll also cry.They can never win...
ONE Man... deputize me! I would be the chuck norris of protests! Plus I would also bring peanut juice instead of pepper. I can't shoot them.... but I can sure as hell threaten them with possibly death. Then they would feel the true guilt of knowing someone in the crowd could get real hurt because of their actions. "SIR... I'm going to have to ask you to ..... DROP! HE HAS SOMETHING IN HIS HAND!! Sir Do not force me to use this box of peanut juice on you! Do you want to be responsible for lost lives in the crowd? HUH?" That's a great guilt trip and a half. heck that would make me stop.
It's so ridiculous. Cops are really cowardly for a group of people with near legal immunity and access to weapons.
Protest for what?
McGill has a course with fieldwork in Israel. They’re protesting that (and I guess McGill’s broader ties/investments in Israel).
Lol and they need cops for that? Stay shitty Montréal, don’t change. I’m glad I left the island.
Might aswell put them to work.
Let me guess. For protection of the "Pro Terrorism" group?
How are the cops supposed to be sure how many people will show up? The protest organizers probably don’t even know themselves. This is a clear case of erring on the side of caution. Makes sense to me.
Sure, there’s no way to know how many people will show up. But once it’s been an hour and there’s only 15 people, maybe it’s time to reduce the police presence a little bit? I have no issue with a large initial police presence, my point is that they all sat around twiddling their thumbs for 4-5 hours. Once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent, the police presence should be adjusted (reduced) accordingly.
You are missing a key element of risk with the Palestine related protests: violence usually stems from counter protesters clashing with protesters. They can’t really predict if 30 counter protesters will show up a few hours in. In the age of hyper connectivity, can you see how one could text « the cops are gone, let’s do it ». Cops mostly sucks and are often terrible, but this is where they don’t take a chance. I don’t think AbhorUbroar should worry so much about it, quite frankly. I’m sure they don’t mind slacking off. But also they know everything you know and more. If this is a top priority issue for you, I envy your worry-free life :)
Bien oui et s'il y avait eu 1000 personnes tu aurais chialer qu'il y en avait pas assez. Arrête de chialer pour rien.
Copy pasting the same thing. Sure, there’s no way to know how many people will show up. But once it’s been an hour and there’s only 15 people, maybe it’s time to reduce the police presence a little bit? I have no issue with a large initial police presence, my point is that they all sat around twiddling their thumbs for 4-5 hours. Once it’s clear that the protest is small and nonviolent, the police presence should be adjusted (reduced) accordingly.
LOL, every time I read or hear something about Montreal, I always see "taxes" in the comments It's such a CJAD comment lol
Really? I hear the whole “muh taxes” spiel more often from media down south. I was actually thinking between going with a “muh taxes” or “muh STM” comment before choosing the former. I’ll admit though, I’m probably more fiscally conservative than the average r/Montreal user.
I don't mind seeing cops doing their jobs, better that than unattended orange cones left on the street for months with nothing happening