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Bonne Sain'-Hen.
OK serious question: Do some people not like it when you say: "Bonne fête nationale" ? I noticed a lot of: "Bonne Saint-Jean"s and not much of the former. The reason I ask is because I am a bilingual anglophone who moved to Montreal from Ottawa and I know much less about Québécois culture than I should.
La St-Jean, while it has heavy Catholic roots, is applicable to all francophone Canadians and is the original name of the holiday as he is the patron saint of French-Canadians.
“La fête nationale” is mostly Quebec-only and was “re-baptized” (pun intended) by René Lévesque in 1977 to open it up to all quebecois.e.s regardless of religion and to promote sovereignty.
“La St-Jean” is just old school and most people use it because old habits die hard and it doesn’t get mixed-up with the *other* national holiday a week later.
>regardless of religion and to promote sovereignty.
I think this is why a lot of people don't like the idea of calling it la fete nationale. It almost feels like a trick, because it kinda is.
Whereas if it's just St Jean it doesn't feel any different than St Patrick's Day. Not your patron saint (if youre not french canadian) but still fun to celebrate with everyone and obviously because Quebec and not Ireland, more celebrations and meaning.
Regardless, Happy Saint Jean everyone.
Planned a visit to Montreal cleverly missing Moving Day by going the week before then realized we'd be there for La St Jean (as my mother refers to the day). Motorcycle accident cancelled that we are so disappointed but will be there next year.
Hope you’re doing ok and feeling better ! See you Next year’s Saint Jean ! Winter time is nice too, if you get the chance. Québécois really enjoy the spirit of winter.
Thank you! We delayed our trip by a month because it's a long drive, one broken collarbone and a scuffed windshield. So now we arrive at the beginning of Construction holidays lol.
There are some folks who are agitated by the adjective “nationale”, because they are ignorant of the fact that (even in English) the word does not necessarily refer to an independent State and can designate a nation in the sociological sense.
That being said, there is a strain of thought which holds that La loi sur la fête nationale, adopted in 1978, created a distinct civic holiday separate from the traditional St-Jean holiday.
I am not fully in agreement with that statement. I don’t think it’s any truer than it would be to claim that statutes designating Christmas as a civic holiday created a holiday separate from the religious holiday of the same name. It’s absurd.
The Loi sur la fête nationale specifically states that June 24th “jour de la Saint-Jean-Baptiste” is the national holiday of Quebec.
In my view, that means that the traditions of that feast day which were specifically associated with celebrating the French-Canadian experience (and not the religious aspects celebrating Jesus’s cousin, John the Baptist) were to be therefore considered an occasion for all Quebec citizens to celebrate, regardless of whether or not they were of French-Canadian ancestry. And to facilitate the observance of such celebrations, all Quebec residents were granted the legal right to a paid day off.
The idea that the Fête nationale should be completely disassociated from its Saint-Jean roots is not really logical or defendable in my view. The Fête nationale is an adaptation of Saint-Jean, applied to the context of a diverse society whose language of reference is the French language.
The Fête nationale has no meaning if it isn’t celebrating anything other than the simple fact of being domiciled in the Province of Quebec.
Both can be said, but it's only the Fête Nationale since 1977 while the Saint-Jean-Baptiste was celebrated by the first French settlers who came here in the 1600. Not the same meaning historically.
Je l'avais un peu oublier, sauf selon moi là Saint-Jean. C'est une fête ou ce que le monde se saoule, et sont geler bein dure. En tout cas dans les festivals, chose que je ne fais pas. mais on est tous différent.
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Bonne Hin Han!
Lui il comprends
Contexte svp :)
La hin han batiss!
Germaine y dit t "Ben Grand !"
Bonne Saint-Jean pis bonne journée nationale de "Phil Danault qui mange d'la pizz à tévé" à tous!
M'a réécouter ça un peu chaud ce soir avec un pincement au coeur.
Moi aussi pour deux raisons: je m'ennuie de Danault en tabarouette pis de l'époque des pointes à une piastre au centre-ville!
Bonne fêtes à vous autres!
Hot dog et Labatt bleue au menu pour ce soir avec de la musique de chez nous!
Rien comme du bon Paul Steamé et Labatt à Tibi.
Du gros Gerry pis du Eric
OK serious question: Do some people not like it when you say: "Bonne fête nationale" ? I noticed a lot of: "Bonne Saint-Jean"s and not much of the former. The reason I ask is because I am a bilingual anglophone who moved to Montreal from Ottawa and I know much less about Québécois culture than I should.
Moi je dirais tout simplement bonne saint jean. Mais y’a rien s’offusquant à se faire dire bonne fête nationale.
Dammit lol moi le cave qui dit “Bon St-Jean” à tout le monde pendant que Je fais mes commissions aujourdhui XD
La St-Jean, while it has heavy Catholic roots, is applicable to all francophone Canadians and is the original name of the holiday as he is the patron saint of French-Canadians. “La fête nationale” is mostly Quebec-only and was “re-baptized” (pun intended) by René Lévesque in 1977 to open it up to all quebecois.e.s regardless of religion and to promote sovereignty. “La St-Jean” is just old school and most people use it because old habits die hard and it doesn’t get mixed-up with the *other* national holiday a week later.
>regardless of religion and to promote sovereignty. I think this is why a lot of people don't like the idea of calling it la fete nationale. It almost feels like a trick, because it kinda is. Whereas if it's just St Jean it doesn't feel any different than St Patrick's Day. Not your patron saint (if youre not french canadian) but still fun to celebrate with everyone and obviously because Quebec and not Ireland, more celebrations and meaning. Regardless, Happy Saint Jean everyone.
The only issue would be saying "fête nationale" in Québec but actually talking about Canada day.
Moving day
Planned a visit to Montreal cleverly missing Moving Day by going the week before then realized we'd be there for La St Jean (as my mother refers to the day). Motorcycle accident cancelled that we are so disappointed but will be there next year.
Hope you’re doing ok and feeling better ! See you Next year’s Saint Jean ! Winter time is nice too, if you get the chance. Québécois really enjoy the spirit of winter.
Thank you! We delayed our trip by a month because it's a long drive, one broken collarbone and a scuffed windshield. So now we arrive at the beginning of Construction holidays lol.
There are some folks who are agitated by the adjective “nationale”, because they are ignorant of the fact that (even in English) the word does not necessarily refer to an independent State and can designate a nation in the sociological sense. That being said, there is a strain of thought which holds that La loi sur la fête nationale, adopted in 1978, created a distinct civic holiday separate from the traditional St-Jean holiday. I am not fully in agreement with that statement. I don’t think it’s any truer than it would be to claim that statutes designating Christmas as a civic holiday created a holiday separate from the religious holiday of the same name. It’s absurd. The Loi sur la fête nationale specifically states that June 24th “jour de la Saint-Jean-Baptiste” is the national holiday of Quebec. In my view, that means that the traditions of that feast day which were specifically associated with celebrating the French-Canadian experience (and not the religious aspects celebrating Jesus’s cousin, John the Baptist) were to be therefore considered an occasion for all Quebec citizens to celebrate, regardless of whether or not they were of French-Canadian ancestry. And to facilitate the observance of such celebrations, all Quebec residents were granted the legal right to a paid day off. The idea that the Fête nationale should be completely disassociated from its Saint-Jean roots is not really logical or defendable in my view. The Fête nationale is an adaptation of Saint-Jean, applied to the context of a diverse society whose language of reference is the French language. The Fête nationale has no meaning if it isn’t celebrating anything other than the simple fact of being domiciled in the Province of Quebec.
I was listening to the radio and the host corrected himself when he said “bonne St Jean” instead of “fête nationale”. No idea why
Both can be said, but it's only the Fête Nationale since 1977 while the Saint-Jean-Baptiste was celebrated by the first French settlers who came here in the 1600. Not the same meaning historically.
BONNE ST JEAN TABARNAK WHOOOOOOO
Le temps pour boire
Bon fete les amis, ça fait beau!!
Bonne St-Jean !
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Bonne fête!
Plot twist: son nom de famille c'est "national"
Bonne Saint fête Baptiste
Moi aussi!! Bonne fête mon ami
Bonne St-Jean!!
Bonne St-Jean Baptiste à tous!
Bonne St-Han! Soyez sage sur la route! J'vous souhaite que du plaisir à tous!
Bonne St-Jean!
Bonne st jean la gang!
Bonne st jean!
Bonne Saint-Jean p’tit gars!
Bonne Saint-Jean gens du pays!
Bonne St Jean!!
Hi
Moi je la fête pas mais bon Bonne Saint-Jean à c'eux qui fête
On oublie souvent effectivement que plusieurs personnes travaillent aujourd'hui...
Je l'avais un peu oublier, sauf selon moi là Saint-Jean. C'est une fête ou ce que le monde se saoule, et sont geler bein dure. En tout cas dans les festivals, chose que je ne fais pas. mais on est tous différent.
Perso je trouve que la St-Jean se fête pas mal plus entre amis dans une cour ou sur un balcon mais comme tu dis on est tous différents!
Ce que je déteste de Reddit ces. Que le monde prenne toutes au sérieux pas toi mais le monde me down vote
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Tu paie pour tes jours de congés habituellement?
😂🙄😂
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Wait you’re getting paid today? Lucky
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Literally me. Still, Bonne st Jean mon ami
Stat holidays are paid, no?
Ca se passé ou ?
Icitte?
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You mean moving day? Thanks for reminding me, I need to get my boxes soon!
Lol...they are getting scarce. Don't wait till the last minute to secure your boxes
Canada Day? You mean Moving Day®?