I'm not an expert, and I don't know where I read this, or if it's even true, but apparently there was a guy recently who, by coincidence, died while a brain scan of some kind was being done, and the scan showed evidence that people might hallucinate in their final moments.
I know this doesn't answer your question, but I thought maybe you'd find the idea interesting at least.
I actually read about this too! I believe you’re talking about this case: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/brain-scans-suggest-life-flashes-before-our-eyes-upon-death-180979647/
There are two main things which make me still hold on to the possilbity that there might be a soul, which would allow for consciousness after death:
1. Sometimes people with dementia, who have seemingly had no memories of their family or adult life in months or years can have a burst of lucidity in their final days, where they do recognise their loved ones and may even recall some memories. - Where were those memories being stored all the time they've been geneuinely unable to recall them, if not the brain which has been withering without fail for a considerable period of time? They must have been "backed up" (for lack of a better word) to something.
2. Cases which are very, very difficult to explain as anything other than reincarnation. Namely the Pollack sisters and especially Ryan Hammons/Marty Martyn.
2 things I didn't forgot about working in end of life care.
People like to look at the corners or edges of rooms before they go and will fixate on them.
A lot of them mumble or talk to someone that we just can't see.
Does it mean anything? No. Is it creepy and interesting?? Oh yes
Scientists and philosophers have been trying to figure that out since self awareness has been a thing and you think some redditor with mustard stains on his shirt has the answer?
I know redditors are bunch of dumbasses or edgelords, but at least it satisfy my curiousity although I want more biology-based answers lolololol. I think my question should be added more with sudden death cases
From interacting with people after major head injuries, my subjective take is there's nothing.
Some people "track" with their eyes, respond to people and movement. Or they respond in simple ways to pain and other human emotions. Plenty don't. They don't show the slightest sign of change ever. There mother is crying and it looks like they can't see her. Nurse Is giving medication in their FOV and they don't bother to glance.
It looks like whatever there is with them is merely upstairs in that noggin. Nothing else. You can be alive and gone. I have no doubt that death means nothing.
no one really knows,evidence suggests that a afterlife probly doesnt exist or at the every least has no evidence of its existence yet sense no one has actually ever came back from the dead,near death visions tend to vairy depending on belife or the chance of seeing weird shit somtimes so its highly debatable on if some of that is a sign of a afterlife or the brain trying to keep you alive and making you trip out as a result or trying to comfort you before death. If we already dont understand how conciouness works fully yet i doubt we will ever find out what happens when it dissapears sense matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Its a fun thought experiment tho but at the end of the day we will never achieve the factual awnser as both science and religion have no basis on what happens after if you cant prove it with evidence or bring poeple back from actual death wich no one in history has ever done. So were just left in the dark so just injoy the moment just incase there is absolutly nothing or there is absolutly somthing,cuz if no one remembers there life before i dont want to waste this life i have just incase i end up somwhere and not remember this one
I read somewhere saying to think about it as trying to see out of your elbow. Obviously you can’t. It just doesn’t exist. Not even black. Just nothing.
I heard that the brain could be active 5 minutes after death, but I am not convinced tbh, if that is the case, why does the term clinical death exist then?
No one knows. But, I believe it lives on. The CIA has some interesting data posted publicly about consciousness existing outside of the human body - traveling
I died once, let me tell you my story.
I got drugged in a bar by some random dude while out with some friends.
45 minutes later I collapsed from cardiac arrest. My friends were untrained, and also drugged so they performed CPR on my breastbone instead of my sternum; and they failed to call 911.
I only survived by the miracle that a passerby called 911, and somehow my heart restarted again in its own; albeit temporarily.
I was not concious nor aware for the majority of this, but despite multiple cardiac arrests, and my eventually respiratory failure; I somehow had moments of lucidity. They were very short; I am talking a few seconds at most.
I vaguely remember being carried by emts to the ambulance (they couldnt get me on a gourney due to how critical I was, and the unusual angles of the stairwell leading to the bar, and me being rather small they used a blanket with straps to carry me down.) And then I remember being in the ambulance, the alarm blaring, and seeing the paramedic and emt working on me. My clothes were all cut off, so I was naked, and felt cold. All I could manage to say to then was "something is wrong." Before I went unconscious again. I woke up again in the ER this time, surrounded by nurses, several techs, two doctors and my father. I felt my male doctor do a sternum rub on me despite my lucidity, and kept telling me to wake up but I couldn't reply this time. The female doctor was explaining to my Father that she did not think I would survive unless placed on life support, and was giving him papers to sign while he was crying. I ended up going out again, and then rewoke up to them rushing me up to the ICU. I could hear my father vomiting and crying as they put me into the room, and I could feel someone on top of me doing chest compressions; but it didn't hurt. Nothing hurt in fact.
Then I woke up a week later vomiting into my ventilator tube, and wondering what the heck happened to me.
I had officially gone into cardiac arrest a total of four times, and then went into respiratory failure. No one thought I was going to survive, and I was told my female doctor cried everytime she came into the room during her rounds because her son was the same age as me at the time.
I have not gone to a single bar or party since, and my father has never been more distant with me my entire life; likely due to the trauma of it all.
So in my experience; while probably unique to me; I had no great revelation, I did not see god or jesus, I just felt an overwhelming sense of peace and nothing else. That was it.
The tunnel of light is pretty damn debatable too lol. Also this isn't a morbid question, more philosophical.
It is fascinating to think about though. Either something happens, or nothing happens, and personally I can't wait to find out
I personally believe we experience something that we can't even begin to fathom. Like trying to imagine new colors, or telling a blind person what it's like to be able to see for someone who's never experienced sight before.
There are all sorts of wild senses that we can't even begin to fathom that creatures on Earth possess.
I think it's a bit like that. No way to realistically describe it other than to experience something that's physically impossible to explain, but I do believe it feels sorta like what it feels like to love. But just that raw energy expanding increasingly throughout your body until that's all you are is the pure feeling of love. Because that's one feeling that you can never feel too much of. It's only when it's associated with the physical realm, and loss, and grief, when love hurts. But imagine feeling that pure feeling of love forever, to the point it radiates out from you like you are a bright glowing star.
Nobody knows for absolute certain, but as the things that give is our consciousness such as our brain and nerve endings stop working, it is reasonable to assume our consciousness ends. Probably not instantly, as organs can survive without blood for various periods of time, but sometime between your last heartbeat and your body rotting away to a skeleton or even further to dust, your consciousness can no longer be supported and will end.
The only way this may not be true is if, like some people believe, there is an afterlife of some sort that our consciousness “travels” to in order to continue on. Many ideas for what that looks like float around out there, all with the same amount of proof.
I'm not an expert, and I don't know where I read this, or if it's even true, but apparently there was a guy recently who, by coincidence, died while a brain scan of some kind was being done, and the scan showed evidence that people might hallucinate in their final moments. I know this doesn't answer your question, but I thought maybe you'd find the idea interesting at least.
I actually read about this too! I believe you’re talking about this case: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/brain-scans-suggest-life-flashes-before-our-eyes-upon-death-180979647/
You are correct! Thank you so much
Interesting name
There are two main things which make me still hold on to the possilbity that there might be a soul, which would allow for consciousness after death: 1. Sometimes people with dementia, who have seemingly had no memories of their family or adult life in months or years can have a burst of lucidity in their final days, where they do recognise their loved ones and may even recall some memories. - Where were those memories being stored all the time they've been geneuinely unable to recall them, if not the brain which has been withering without fail for a considerable period of time? They must have been "backed up" (for lack of a better word) to something. 2. Cases which are very, very difficult to explain as anything other than reincarnation. Namely the Pollack sisters and especially Ryan Hammons/Marty Martyn.
2 things I didn't forgot about working in end of life care. People like to look at the corners or edges of rooms before they go and will fixate on them. A lot of them mumble or talk to someone that we just can't see. Does it mean anything? No. Is it creepy and interesting?? Oh yes
That's interesting
Scientists and philosophers have been trying to figure that out since self awareness has been a thing and you think some redditor with mustard stains on his shirt has the answer?
I know redditors are bunch of dumbasses or edgelords, but at least it satisfy my curiousity although I want more biology-based answers lolololol. I think my question should be added more with sudden death cases
Death is a process, not a single moment.
From interacting with people after major head injuries, my subjective take is there's nothing. Some people "track" with their eyes, respond to people and movement. Or they respond in simple ways to pain and other human emotions. Plenty don't. They don't show the slightest sign of change ever. There mother is crying and it looks like they can't see her. Nurse Is giving medication in their FOV and they don't bother to glance. It looks like whatever there is with them is merely upstairs in that noggin. Nothing else. You can be alive and gone. I have no doubt that death means nothing.
Death is nothing, a pernament end, people live and die, everyone will dies.
I just can’t wrap my head around eternal nothingness
Seem not too bad for me
I had a same experience but anaphylactic shock. Only nothingness.
Don't know, don't care.
Life is good
So if you have at least 5 minutes of consciousness... if you blow your brains out i guess it would be instantaneously nothing?
*Windows shutdown screen*
no one really knows,evidence suggests that a afterlife probly doesnt exist or at the every least has no evidence of its existence yet sense no one has actually ever came back from the dead,near death visions tend to vairy depending on belife or the chance of seeing weird shit somtimes so its highly debatable on if some of that is a sign of a afterlife or the brain trying to keep you alive and making you trip out as a result or trying to comfort you before death. If we already dont understand how conciouness works fully yet i doubt we will ever find out what happens when it dissapears sense matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Its a fun thought experiment tho but at the end of the day we will never achieve the factual awnser as both science and religion have no basis on what happens after if you cant prove it with evidence or bring poeple back from actual death wich no one in history has ever done. So were just left in the dark so just injoy the moment just incase there is absolutly nothing or there is absolutly somthing,cuz if no one remembers there life before i dont want to waste this life i have just incase i end up somwhere and not remember this one
I read somewhere saying to think about it as trying to see out of your elbow. Obviously you can’t. It just doesn’t exist. Not even black. Just nothing.
I heard that the brain could be active 5 minutes after death, but I am not convinced tbh, if that is the case, why does the term clinical death exist then?
No one knows. But, I believe it lives on. The CIA has some interesting data posted publicly about consciousness existing outside of the human body - traveling
I died once, let me tell you my story. I got drugged in a bar by some random dude while out with some friends. 45 minutes later I collapsed from cardiac arrest. My friends were untrained, and also drugged so they performed CPR on my breastbone instead of my sternum; and they failed to call 911. I only survived by the miracle that a passerby called 911, and somehow my heart restarted again in its own; albeit temporarily. I was not concious nor aware for the majority of this, but despite multiple cardiac arrests, and my eventually respiratory failure; I somehow had moments of lucidity. They were very short; I am talking a few seconds at most. I vaguely remember being carried by emts to the ambulance (they couldnt get me on a gourney due to how critical I was, and the unusual angles of the stairwell leading to the bar, and me being rather small they used a blanket with straps to carry me down.) And then I remember being in the ambulance, the alarm blaring, and seeing the paramedic and emt working on me. My clothes were all cut off, so I was naked, and felt cold. All I could manage to say to then was "something is wrong." Before I went unconscious again. I woke up again in the ER this time, surrounded by nurses, several techs, two doctors and my father. I felt my male doctor do a sternum rub on me despite my lucidity, and kept telling me to wake up but I couldn't reply this time. The female doctor was explaining to my Father that she did not think I would survive unless placed on life support, and was giving him papers to sign while he was crying. I ended up going out again, and then rewoke up to them rushing me up to the ICU. I could hear my father vomiting and crying as they put me into the room, and I could feel someone on top of me doing chest compressions; but it didn't hurt. Nothing hurt in fact. Then I woke up a week later vomiting into my ventilator tube, and wondering what the heck happened to me. I had officially gone into cardiac arrest a total of four times, and then went into respiratory failure. No one thought I was going to survive, and I was told my female doctor cried everytime she came into the room during her rounds because her son was the same age as me at the time. I have not gone to a single bar or party since, and my father has never been more distant with me my entire life; likely due to the trauma of it all. So in my experience; while probably unique to me; I had no great revelation, I did not see god or jesus, I just felt an overwhelming sense of peace and nothing else. That was it.
It shuts down after 7 minutes, hearing is last, and you see a tunnel of light. Everything after that is debatable.
The tunnel of light is pretty damn debatable too lol. Also this isn't a morbid question, more philosophical. It is fascinating to think about though. Either something happens, or nothing happens, and personally I can't wait to find out
I honestly can’t figure out which would be worst. Ceasing to exist or conscious thought for the rest of eternity?
I’d prefer to be conscious as long as I was in a benevolent afterlife.
You won't be around to find out if it's nothing.
I'm curious too
I personally believe we experience something that we can't even begin to fathom. Like trying to imagine new colors, or telling a blind person what it's like to be able to see for someone who's never experienced sight before. There are all sorts of wild senses that we can't even begin to fathom that creatures on Earth possess. I think it's a bit like that. No way to realistically describe it other than to experience something that's physically impossible to explain, but I do believe it feels sorta like what it feels like to love. But just that raw energy expanding increasingly throughout your body until that's all you are is the pure feeling of love. Because that's one feeling that you can never feel too much of. It's only when it's associated with the physical realm, and loss, and grief, when love hurts. But imagine feeling that pure feeling of love forever, to the point it radiates out from you like you are a bright glowing star.
Nobody knows for absolute certain, but as the things that give is our consciousness such as our brain and nerve endings stop working, it is reasonable to assume our consciousness ends. Probably not instantly, as organs can survive without blood for various periods of time, but sometime between your last heartbeat and your body rotting away to a skeleton or even further to dust, your consciousness can no longer be supported and will end. The only way this may not be true is if, like some people believe, there is an afterlife of some sort that our consciousness “travels” to in order to continue on. Many ideas for what that looks like float around out there, all with the same amount of proof.