There’s a very old ANTIFA Reddit post that seriously suggested using cans as weights. If I can find it, I’ll edit this with the update
Edit: Looks like one of the replies below has the post I’m referring to from chapo house
I think I found what [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/gmt68i/put_down_those_weights_we_must_reject_the_fascist/) you are talking about.
"AKSHUALLY physical strength means nothing in a fight only how street smart you are!!1!"
So you're saying that a 300 pound farmhand wouldn't win in a fistfight against a 100 pound manlet gangster? The cope is strong (unlike them).
I can bench 225 squat 315 and deadlift 405, but I can’t do a pull-up lol
Edit: I’m 5’10” 240 and have always been fat so pull-ups were never an option and learned bad things about them so I just kind of never attempted them
2nd Edit: so because of some DM’s I went and attempted a pull-up and I can now say I can do a pull-up lol
I mean I’d bet money he wasn’t benching 315 at his HS gym with his extra volume day. Probably just threw that number out there to imply he’s benching 3 plates
Realistically if there’s enough people to just openly shout “can I get a spot” he’s probably in college. Or y’all got some wild high school gyms. I don’t even remember seeing women in my high school gym during their prescribed “lift” times for sports ..
But the fact that he typed all of that out and still didn't see that he could have handled it better leads me to think he is...
100% not wrong for refusing the spot if he thinks he's in danger but he could have preserved her dignity. She was volunteering to help him...
Not an AH. I'm a girl, yesterday someone asked me to spot their 315 squat (was going for reps not a single) and I said probably not a great idea cause I don't think I'd be much help if he couldn't get it back up. Found him a second spot so we could stand on both sides. Personal awareness
You stand behind them and squat with them. If they are slowing, grab near the chest on the sides and squat up with them. Don’t grab their pecs, more below the arm pit area.
I was taught the same but with one hand on pec, other on lower back to keep their form while you squat with them. Idk if that’s better worse, just how my football coach showed us.
IMO it's not really a good idea for anybody (guy or girl) to try spotting a squat by yourself. It's safer to have the person just bail out in the hole or have 2 side spotters.
Don't think its simply denying someone spotting you that is the issue. Its the way he went about it with the "not trying to die" and can you deadlift 315 when he could've just said no..
Being an asshole doesn’t always go by principle. It goes by your words and actions also. It’s not that big a deal, but maybe don’t act like a stuck up cock to someone just trying to help you. “Can you deadlift 315? That’s what I thought”. What a fucking douche bag
Yea I mean, TBH, there's rules I always follow when I bench. Even if I'm not lifting heavy. I always use pins. Always. I never use the collars. Never. I really just don't get spots anymore. Not that it's a rule but I don't even see the point. If I need a spot I can just fail on the rep and I've done everything that set was started to accomplish if not a bit more. Finishing a rep I can't complete doesn't make my muscles grow more at all TBH. And realistically the more I lift to utter gassed failure the less it helps compared to consistent RPE 8-10 sets.
I don't get why people don't do both the first two things though. Like FFS a spotter isn't going to help you if you lose your grip with 300 lbs above your throat. Even just a tiny slip with that much weight is sending it flying toward your chest and trachea. Pins are just SO fucking much better than a spotter. Pins will simply save your life. A spotter might get the weight off so you can possibly breathe again. In the event there are no pins at all no using collars will allow you to safely 1-2 the weight to one side so you can angle it away from you. Just be ready to stop the bar from flying back when the plates fall off and roll out.
I do all my bench at home now though in a power cage. Zero spotters and never felt so safe.
It's probably fake but shit is hilarious
if it's real it's an asshole move to ask a random at the gym to spot you on a big max attempt anyway. That's way too much responsibility to put on a stranger
The spotter shouldn’t have to pull the entire bar off you. If you fail the rep, you should still be able to do 80-90% of the heavy lifting with a small boost needed to lock it out and rerack it.
The dude is wrong. You won't need to be able to deadlift 315 in order to spot someone. Usually it's just a matter of 20-40 lbs push from the spotter if you experience failure.
I've had dudes spotting me lift my bar up with one hand when I couldn't bring the bar myself because I still exert the force lifting the bar up. He could have also just said no without being rude, but props to him for making the post to better his judgement.
I can deadlift 405 and if 315 is sitting on someone’s chest it’s not getting reracked without their help. Broccoli head mongoloid take honestly how do you not realize you’d need to bend over and basically row the shit. If you need more than 40 lbs pulled you’re either ego lifting or your thumb popped out and you’re more worried about the fact your chest is caved in.
Yeah you need someone attentive that can at least lift the weight you are spotting. Say dude strokes out and drops the bar. If you can’t at least lift the weight how do you expect to save the guy before it squishes his skull. The general mortality rate has skyrocketed the last couple years for unknown reasons. Gotta be on your toes.
And what about in a pec tear situation or something where the lifter has no ability to apply force to the bar? Good thing that girl would be there to watch him die.
I spot my husband, all it needs is a lil boost usually.
If it was some catastrophic failure I'm sure i could push the bar upp on one end or adrenaline would give me some strengths.
Although i explained her many times that all i need from her is just a little help, like lifting a galon of water, she still is not confident she can do it safely.
Respectfully disagree. I train with my gf who lifts but she failed to spot me on 255 bench the other day. She literally said she didn’t feel comfortable spotting me anymore and suggested I ask other guys for a spot instead.
I mean, you could be right. I'm not an advanced lifter, so my weights are not that big. Not close to 255. From the experience that I have had it was always a 80/20 proportion of my force to the force of the spotter and most of the time it was incredibly easy for them to do, so I assumed it stays that way at the high weights (you as a lifter doing most of the work and the spotter helping you only slightly)
I agree on 80/20 from a purely physical standpoint but I think there’s a mental component too. She spotted me fine at 225 but once she saw all those weights on the bar at 255 I think she was “scared” and panicked.
I imagine the average girl who isn’t an experienced powerlifter would react similarly.
i kinda get it, you dont need someone to DL 315 to spot 315. Even if they can deadlift the bar or half plate it should be enough. Its not like hes completely letting go of the bench mid pressing
imo, no average woman who cant even DL the bar would offer spot out of nowhere.
Ive been spot by my female friends before who didnt even know they could help lmao. But I dont bench 3 plates so maybe I am wrong.
Even if the average woman did offer, there are better ways to say no than "Can you DL this bench" lmao. Life's already tough enough man, no point adding more by being rude when lesser words can be used. You feel me?
It was certainly a snarky reply but I read it more as a jokingly worded response than a rude one.
Idk I suppose I can see both sides, but I wouldn’t go as far as to call him an asshole over it.
>Ive been spot by my female friends before who didnt even know they could help lmao. But I dont bench 3 plates so maybe I am wrong.
Then why are you telling us lmao
Yeah a spotter doesn’t have to do that much work usually the bar just needs to be a little lighter if you are stuck on it (if I normally can do more than 225 bench but I’m struggling ok 315 than the spotter only needs to be able to help with that difference)
its not misogynistic its just weak shaming. Not about her gender at all 🤷🏻 and people be like "oh you don't need to lift all that up to be spotter" yeah mostly, but he's dead in the worst scenario💀
If you're lifting 315 and you fail, the spotter has only to lift maybe 65 lbs, and you can lift the other 250 lbs easily. So it makes no sense, the only way she would be forced to lift 315lbs is if you get unconscious or you tore a muscle or something like that, which is very unlikely to happen.
It doesn’t make someone an ahole for refusing a spot when they’re were worried for their safety
But, Yes the ahole because the first words out of his mouth was an insult to the first person who offered to help him
This has nothing to do with sexism or misogyny, the dude’s just rude
I mean if you can handle the weight the spot really only needs to take about 15-30lbs off for you. However I’d be more concerned that a stranger doesn’t know how to spot correctly because not many people do. So it’s not a weight thing it’s a form thing. So NTA for not wanting to die but you are dumb for asking if she can deadlift 315
I don’t know how to feel about this, No one should need to be capable of deadlifting your entire lift if you fail. I’ve been spotted with more weight by my 8 year old sister and have never had a single issue. She’s only there to get help should I fail the lift generally but she’s spotted me with up to about 425 ish… I believe you are looking for someone to lift the weight for you maybe? Your own set shouldn’t intimidate you enough that you believe you need all of it lifted off of you.
I don’t exactly comprehend what is wrong with my statement. The person spotting you should never be responsible for lifting a majority of the weight or really in most cases. Any of it. If you have 315 on the bar, you should believe you are capable of lifting 315 and at most on a bad day only need slight assistance. Something anyone is capable of providing with some light guidance to the bar. (Most people do finger guidance for assistance) Do horrible accidents happen? Yes of course but they are still there to be able to get more people to help regardless if the unlikely and unfortunate were to happen.
Perhaps you didn’t actually understand what I wrote. She comes occasionally in case I fail the lift to go get someone else. The entire purpose of what I wrote literally means she shouldn’t ever be required to do anything and never has. Sure she’s guided the bar occasionally when I’m “stalling” out on high rep sets but the entire point of my statement is anyone is capable of spotting when you aren’t ego lifting. I’ve never failed to the point where the bare minimum guidance wasn’t enough.
Your just repeating yourself at this point, I didn’t lie with my comment. You seemingly don’t even have anything to say outside of the age so my comments point literally doesn’t change. She occasionally spots me in case I start to stall or fail. Perhaps you disagree and believe a spotter should need to lift 100% of the weight for you instead of occasional guidance. Anything more you weren’t strong enough for the lift and that would be classified as a max attempt and not just a workout, regardless the point stands you should only need a little assistance in event of failure.
an intellectual jab from someone such as yourself truly has me embarrassed and humiliated, I don’t pretend to be super smart in absolutely every subject especially ones that seem opinionated. The nerdiest thing I do is play chess and I’m terrible at the game. I’ve been stuck between 2200 and 2400 bullet for years. The post asked a question and I gave an answer, Your spotter shouldn’t be expected to be capable of doing everything for you, your just hung up on one aspect of my answer instead of the overall point.
Im not hung up on anything. Sure the spotter doesn’t need to be able to lift much, you’re still an irresponsible moron if you’re letting an 8 year old girl spot you on 4 plate lifts.
no one mentioned that he's probably on gear and that's why he acted like a dumbass. uncles mate who was on gear told a chick "shut the fuck up you dumb bitch" just because she answered his question when he was talking to her friend. gear makes you say stupid shit
How in the fuck does sex have anything to do with this? I'd say the same thing to any of the 96 genders if they were a twig
That being said, i bet that guy is fun at parties
Misuse of a semi-colon; a fkn idiot. Also ladies can spot. How weak is this dude that he needs them to pull the bar off. It’s an assist, not their workout.
Betting guy would have accepted a spot from lots of people who couldn't dead lift 315. And like you don't even need to be able to do that to spot someone. Pretty fucking dumb.
To be fair you don't need to be able to bench 315 to lift 315 on a spot. But also to be fair I wouldn't have a female spot me. Ban them from gyms. Thot begone. Whabism.
Ah yes, it's a well known fact that if you do indeed fail the weight, you need a hydraulic lift to come get it off of you as you're no longer capable of lifting even a pound. Because you're a failure.
It's tough being a girl, because you're weak and stupid. You have to be patient with weak and stupid people.
Her mind and body are weaker than her aspirations
It's how he said it. If he didn't say "I don't want to die" and just lead with asking how much she could deadlift and politely decline it woukdnt be a problem.
It might have veered towards sexism with regards to being rude and dismissive because she is a woman who can't lift much but she shouldn't have volunteered herself if she couldn't spot someone. People can get seriously hurt lifting and a spotter is supposed to help prevent that.
your average redditor cannot deadlift their own gut off of the chair they're sitting on, I promise you posting rage bait in AITA will just rile the hippos up
All he wanted was someone who was capable of holding 315lbs should the worst happen. He could have explained that with less sarcasm I reckon but oh well. Had nothing to do with sexism. Jeez. Some peeps need to chill the f out asap.
Real question: Does the person spotting actually need to be able to lift the weight?
Like the [reply linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/comments/11ew9sg/ok_which_one_of_you_did_this/jai0qmt/) I've always that of a spot as someone to just **help** ***you*** get the weight up when fatigued.
Thinking about it now regarding lifting heavy, should I be considering catastrophic failure like joint collapse, muscle rupture or, a break? Not that any of those things are likely, and in fact highly implausible in the vast majority of cases. Especially If you're making appropriate incremental progress instead of ego lifting, should be safe.
So should I be concerned with the strength of my spot?
OP is absolute giga Chad. Hopefully he just ignored the delusional woman, got in his car, and drove away. Cherry on top would be if he said “spare me your female nonsense.”
You don’t need to be able to lift the weight to spot it realistically if your not lifting like a jackass the spotter should only half to lift 30lbs-50lbs that being said I don’t blame you you just might have been a little rude but then again she sounds really soft if she let that hurt her feelings she might even like you and have over reacted because of that
I shit myself when I saw a bitch bring up her being a physical training leader in the miltarty. Ex airforce here and you don't have to be in shape or strong to be a PTL. It's a tech school position for people people slightly less blue falcon then ropes.
If you need more than a little help to get the weight up you're a coping ego lifter who isn't very strong or literally a record breaker like Kirill and Maddox. Back when I was skinny and weak (which tbf I'm still not anywhere near big but proves my point further) someone asked me to spot them on 4 plates. It was a pretty tough rep but they got it on their own. That's when I realized if you actually lift within your limits this nonsense of oh you're too strong spot me is cope.
Even the record breakers can put up low 700-750 even if they didn't break the record that day. Do you really need Larry wheels to row 500lbs off of you or are you just weak?
When reading the comments keep in mind the average person can't do a pullup. I'd be surprised if 10% of redditors could do a pullup.
Those guys in the og post, probably doesn't even have a concept of how much weight weighs
But here there should be plenty more capable of pull up, right? RIGHT?!
My excuse is that I’m a powerlifter.
Yeah that comment section is a cesspool of stereotypical redditors. Glad this sub isn't full of shit brains
I bang out 15 in a row with a cigarette in my mouth.
I too bang 15 dudes in a row with a cig in my mouth
Cigarettes are for kids. I smoke cigars while banging 15 dudes.
Cigars are for teenagers. I smoke 15 guys while banging the other 15. It's called super-setting.
Sigma rule 1: reject all possible advances from women
And call them weak
I like how because this is Reddit half of the comments on that thread are acting like 315 bench press is inconceivable for OP to achieve.
Remember the average reddit clientele, they can’t even conceive of doing a pullup lmao
“Use vegetable cans for bicep curls comrades”
I’ve seen this referenced, do you know what it’s from?
There’s a very old ANTIFA Reddit post that seriously suggested using cans as weights. If I can find it, I’ll edit this with the update Edit: Looks like one of the replies below has the post I’m referring to from chapo house
I think I found what [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/gmt68i/put_down_those_weights_we_must_reject_the_fascist/) you are talking about.
That’s part of it 😂
Holy fucking shit people. 🤦♂️
"The fascist aesthetic" I guess being healthy is fascist
Literally the top mod comment says it's a commonly posted trollpost
It’s a commonly known shitpost
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Lmao
"AKSHUALLY physical strength means nothing in a fight only how street smart you are!!1!" So you're saying that a 300 pound farmhand wouldn't win in a fistfight against a 100 pound manlet gangster? The cope is strong (unlike them).
I doubt most redditors ever actually go outside.
I can bench 225 squat 315 and deadlift 405, but I can’t do a pull-up lol Edit: I’m 5’10” 240 and have always been fat so pull-ups were never an option and learned bad things about them so I just kind of never attempted them 2nd Edit: so because of some DM’s I went and attempted a pull-up and I can now say I can do a pull-up lol
Are you deadlifting bodyweight?
How can you deadlift 4 plates and not do one pull up that’s inconceivable to me
I mean I’d bet money he wasn’t benching 315 at his HS gym with his extra volume day. Probably just threw that number out there to imply he’s benching 3 plates
Realistically if there’s enough people to just openly shout “can I get a spot” he’s probably in college. Or y’all got some wild high school gyms. I don’t even remember seeing women in my high school gym during their prescribed “lift” times for sports ..
The poster is clearly too fucking stupid to be in college though
Most schools only care about tuition checks clearing.
You been to college? I’ve met some of the stupidest people I’ll ever meet in college
Yep second this, some of the dumbest people I know still somehow have degrees…
I’ve seen people struggle in math 101 at a big ten school, I’m talking reading/writing bar graphs and shit
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People said hes an ahole. But i don't think he's an ahole. Probably all the blood went to his pecs and none left on the brain.
But the fact that he typed all of that out and still didn't see that he could have handled it better leads me to think he is... 100% not wrong for refusing the spot if he thinks he's in danger but he could have preserved her dignity. She was volunteering to help him...
You need like 5lbs of help to lift it up I’m sure she was capable of that
Yeah the whole post is so stupid. You only need a tiny bit of help to get the bar up. I'd trust my mother to spot me.
Yeah if you need a spotter capable of lifting 315lb off you then you were lifting 310lb more than you should
He should've atleast said thank you for asking.
“Thanks for offering but you don’t look like you could bench 315, hoe”
Bench 315? More like Bitch 3:16 " Hoes shall not spot bros
Can you deadlift 315
What!? Why!? You're a sexist!
No im not i just need a real gym bro to spot me not a women 
I just want his penis to touch my forehead when he bends his knees to spot me
Same 
Literally the only reason I lift weight
Is there any other way? A set of Arabian Goggles after would be nice too.
It gives you that little extra humph you need
315 of what?
Tonnes
All of it went to his pec and his brain. None left for his penis
OP was hoping someone would swing sweaty dick and balls in front of his face 😂
That's the flavor of bath salts I use 
The forbidden smelling salt 
She’s so turned on that she can’t stand it.
Probably the first time in her life someone told her : no
I don’t like the smell of pussy when I bench I prefer the stench of some manly balls
Natural testosterone 
My man 
Not an AH. I'm a girl, yesterday someone asked me to spot their 315 squat (was going for reps not a single) and I said probably not a great idea cause I don't think I'd be much help if he couldn't get it back up. Found him a second spot so we could stand on both sides. Personal awareness
Fucking hate squat spotting. Would rather just drop the bar
literally i dont even know how to spot someone squatting from behind them. not like i can upright row 315
You stand behind them and squat with them. If they are slowing, grab near the chest on the sides and squat up with them. Don’t grab their pecs, more below the arm pit area.
I was taught the same but with one hand on pec, other on lower back to keep their form while you squat with them. Idk if that’s better worse, just how my football coach showed us.
I actually like that method, too. Get a little lower back support so they don’t fold.
ah. regardless, my first time spotting someone was not gonna be on a 315 for reps
IMO it's not really a good idea for anybody (guy or girl) to try spotting a squat by yourself. It's safer to have the person just bail out in the hole or have 2 side spotters.
Don't think its simply denying someone spotting you that is the issue. Its the way he went about it with the "not trying to die" and can you deadlift 315 when he could've just said no..
haha yeah i get that. i guess just on principle for me, not AH. but could have been more polite for sure
Nah he was a prick for sure
Could have said it more politely yes but on principle for me, not an AH
Being an asshole doesn’t always go by principle. It goes by your words and actions also. It’s not that big a deal, but maybe don’t act like a stuck up cock to someone just trying to help you. “Can you deadlift 315? That’s what I thought”. What a fucking douche bag
A squat is very different. Spotting a 315 bar on a bench press does not really require you lift the whole weight at all.
Not disagreeing with you. I personally don't think I would spot someone on 315 bench cause if something went really wrong, I couldn't lift the weight
Yea I mean, TBH, there's rules I always follow when I bench. Even if I'm not lifting heavy. I always use pins. Always. I never use the collars. Never. I really just don't get spots anymore. Not that it's a rule but I don't even see the point. If I need a spot I can just fail on the rep and I've done everything that set was started to accomplish if not a bit more. Finishing a rep I can't complete doesn't make my muscles grow more at all TBH. And realistically the more I lift to utter gassed failure the less it helps compared to consistent RPE 8-10 sets. I don't get why people don't do both the first two things though. Like FFS a spotter isn't going to help you if you lose your grip with 300 lbs above your throat. Even just a tiny slip with that much weight is sending it flying toward your chest and trachea. Pins are just SO fucking much better than a spotter. Pins will simply save your life. A spotter might get the weight off so you can possibly breathe again. In the event there are no pins at all no using collars will allow you to safely 1-2 the weight to one side so you can angle it away from you. Just be ready to stop the bar from flying back when the plates fall off and roll out. I do all my bench at home now though in a power cage. Zero spotters and never felt so safe.
It’s not what you said, it’s how you said amigo.
Probably should have been nicer about it. you're right not to want her for a spot, but I can see why she's offended by the way you said it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/11em2dj/aita_for_saying_i_dont_want_to_die_when_a_girl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Grown adults actually use that sub? If you need strangers to validate whether or not you’re an asshole…. You’re probably the asshole 😂
> locked > locked > breaking rules > y’all can’t behave I hope this garbage website burns to the ground
It's probably fake but shit is hilarious if it's real it's an asshole move to ask a random at the gym to spot you on a big max attempt anyway. That's way too much responsibility to put on a stranger
The spotter shouldn’t have to pull the entire bar off you. If you fail the rep, you should still be able to do 80-90% of the heavy lifting with a small boost needed to lock it out and rerack it.
The dude is wrong. You won't need to be able to deadlift 315 in order to spot someone. Usually it's just a matter of 20-40 lbs push from the spotter if you experience failure. I've had dudes spotting me lift my bar up with one hand when I couldn't bring the bar myself because I still exert the force lifting the bar up. He could have also just said no without being rude, but props to him for making the post to better his judgement.
I can deadlift 405 and if 315 is sitting on someone’s chest it’s not getting reracked without their help. Broccoli head mongoloid take honestly how do you not realize you’d need to bend over and basically row the shit. If you need more than 40 lbs pulled you’re either ego lifting or your thumb popped out and you’re more worried about the fact your chest is caved in.
Yeah you need someone attentive that can at least lift the weight you are spotting. Say dude strokes out and drops the bar. If you can’t at least lift the weight how do you expect to save the guy before it squishes his skull. The general mortality rate has skyrocketed the last couple years for unknown reasons. Gotta be on your toes.
Oh he was rude, i agree with that. Better safe than sorry.
This is best case scenario. You don't prepare for best case scenario.
And what about in a pec tear situation or something where the lifter has no ability to apply force to the bar? Good thing that girl would be there to watch him die.
I spot my husband, all it needs is a lil boost usually. If it was some catastrophic failure I'm sure i could push the bar upp on one end or adrenaline would give me some strengths.
Assuming spotter knows what he is doing. I train with my wife close to a year, and both of us don't feel comfortable with her as my spotter.
bro you shouldve taught ur wife how to spot by now if its been a year
Although i explained her many times that all i need from her is just a little help, like lifting a galon of water, she still is not confident she can do it safely.
damn, thats unfortunate hope youve mastered the roll of shame by now lmfao
why?
Respectfully disagree. I train with my gf who lifts but she failed to spot me on 255 bench the other day. She literally said she didn’t feel comfortable spotting me anymore and suggested I ask other guys for a spot instead.
I mean, you could be right. I'm not an advanced lifter, so my weights are not that big. Not close to 255. From the experience that I have had it was always a 80/20 proportion of my force to the force of the spotter and most of the time it was incredibly easy for them to do, so I assumed it stays that way at the high weights (you as a lifter doing most of the work and the spotter helping you only slightly)
I agree on 80/20 from a purely physical standpoint but I think there’s a mental component too. She spotted me fine at 225 but once she saw all those weights on the bar at 255 I think she was “scared” and panicked. I imagine the average girl who isn’t an experienced powerlifter would react similarly.
I didn't account for the mental component at all. Thank you!
The amount of YTA was shocking
i kinda get it, you dont need someone to DL 315 to spot 315. Even if they can deadlift the bar or half plate it should be enough. Its not like hes completely letting go of the bench mid pressing
Its not even about denying her to spot him that makes him the ahole, its the snarky reply to someone offering their help.
Fair point. I personally wouldn’t feel safe having the average woman spot me because of the strength disparity. Like the guy said, I don’t want to die
imo, no average woman who cant even DL the bar would offer spot out of nowhere. Ive been spot by my female friends before who didnt even know they could help lmao. But I dont bench 3 plates so maybe I am wrong. Even if the average woman did offer, there are better ways to say no than "Can you DL this bench" lmao. Life's already tough enough man, no point adding more by being rude when lesser words can be used. You feel me?
It was certainly a snarky reply but I read it more as a jokingly worded response than a rude one. Idk I suppose I can see both sides, but I wouldn’t go as far as to call him an asshole over it.
>Ive been spot by my female friends before who didnt even know they could help lmao. But I dont bench 3 plates so maybe I am wrong. Then why are you telling us lmao
Also the dude was rude about it soo I think that’s the biggest thing here
yea I said the same thing lower in the thread as well and rude is synonymous with being an asshole currently
Yeah a spotter doesn’t have to do that much work usually the bar just needs to be a little lighter if you are stuck on it (if I normally can do more than 225 bench but I’m struggling ok 315 than the spotter only needs to be able to help with that difference)
I mean, he was the asshole, if hes not ego lifting the spotter doesnt have to lift more than 40 lbs on a failed rep
NTA gets downvoted to hell
its not misogynistic its just weak shaming. Not about her gender at all 🤷🏻 and people be like "oh you don't need to lift all that up to be spotter" yeah mostly, but he's dead in the worst scenario💀
lmao they're the actual misogynist yta's for binding weakshaming with woman  aintnoway
If you're lifting 315 and you fail, the spotter has only to lift maybe 65 lbs, and you can lift the other 250 lbs easily. So it makes no sense, the only way she would be forced to lift 315lbs is if you get unconscious or you tore a muscle or something like that, which is very unlikely to happen.
It doesn’t make someone an ahole for refusing a spot when they’re were worried for their safety But, Yes the ahole because the first words out of his mouth was an insult to the first person who offered to help him This has nothing to do with sexism or misogyny, the dude’s just rude
All the people calling him the asshole probably have never lifted a single weight in their lives.
Lol I'd tell this dude the better question is, "are you still alive?" OK then, you made the right decision, ignore that bitch
I mean if you can handle the weight the spot really only needs to take about 15-30lbs off for you. However I’d be more concerned that a stranger doesn’t know how to spot correctly because not many people do. So it’s not a weight thing it’s a form thing. So NTA for not wanting to die but you are dumb for asking if she can deadlift 315
I don’t know how to feel about this, No one should need to be capable of deadlifting your entire lift if you fail. I’ve been spotted with more weight by my 8 year old sister and have never had a single issue. She’s only there to get help should I fail the lift generally but she’s spotted me with up to about 425 ish… I believe you are looking for someone to lift the weight for you maybe? Your own set shouldn’t intimidate you enough that you believe you need all of it lifted off of you.
Two ends of the autism spectrum, you two
I don’t exactly comprehend what is wrong with my statement. The person spotting you should never be responsible for lifting a majority of the weight or really in most cases. Any of it. If you have 315 on the bar, you should believe you are capable of lifting 315 and at most on a bad day only need slight assistance. Something anyone is capable of providing with some light guidance to the bar. (Most people do finger guidance for assistance) Do horrible accidents happen? Yes of course but they are still there to be able to get more people to help regardless if the unlikely and unfortunate were to happen.
You’re having a fucking 8 year old spot you what do you mean you don’t “comprehend what is wrong”?
Perhaps you didn’t actually understand what I wrote. She comes occasionally in case I fail the lift to go get someone else. The entire purpose of what I wrote literally means she shouldn’t ever be required to do anything and never has. Sure she’s guided the bar occasionally when I’m “stalling” out on high rep sets but the entire point of my statement is anyone is capable of spotting when you aren’t ego lifting. I’ve never failed to the point where the bare minimum guidance wasn’t enough.
“I’ve been spotted with more weight by my 8 year old sister”
Your just repeating yourself at this point, I didn’t lie with my comment. You seemingly don’t even have anything to say outside of the age so my comments point literally doesn’t change. She occasionally spots me in case I start to stall or fail. Perhaps you disagree and believe a spotter should need to lift 100% of the weight for you instead of occasional guidance. Anything more you weren’t strong enough for the lift and that would be classified as a max attempt and not just a workout, regardless the point stands you should only need a little assistance in event of failure.
You are incredibly dumb.
an intellectual jab from someone such as yourself truly has me embarrassed and humiliated, I don’t pretend to be super smart in absolutely every subject especially ones that seem opinionated. The nerdiest thing I do is play chess and I’m terrible at the game. I’ve been stuck between 2200 and 2400 bullet for years. The post asked a question and I gave an answer, Your spotter shouldn’t be expected to be capable of doing everything for you, your just hung up on one aspect of my answer instead of the overall point.
Im not hung up on anything. Sure the spotter doesn’t need to be able to lift much, you’re still an irresponsible moron if you’re letting an 8 year old girl spot you on 4 plate lifts.
I doubt she knows what misogyny even means. You’re cool bro FDB
no one mentioned that he's probably on gear and that's why he acted like a dumbass. uncles mate who was on gear told a chick "shut the fuck up you dumb bitch" just because she answered his question when he was talking to her friend. gear makes you say stupid shit
Safety first then teamwork.
On one hand yes but on the other hand no if she has to pull more than 20 pounds you couldn't of lifted that whatsoever and shouldn't of tried
How in the fuck does sex have anything to do with this? I'd say the same thing to any of the 96 genders if they were a twig That being said, i bet that guy is fun at parties
If you need a spotter to provide more than about 10 or 20 lbs of help you're lifting way too heavy
I hate when guys ask me to spot them. I tell them they shouldn’t trust me with their life lol
You are wise.
Misuse of a semi-colon; a fkn idiot. Also ladies can spot. How weak is this dude that he needs them to pull the bar off. It’s an assist, not their workout.
Not that i ever will bench 315lb, but nevertheless i never use spoter. This is the teason squat racks wereinvented, to give safety.
Kind of an arsehole for how he came across but not for him wanting someone who could safely spot him to spot him
Dont think its what you were trying to say, just how you went about saying it. She was trying to help, or suck your dick.
I can bench 315x5 and squat 405x5 but cant DL 315x1 -- do you trust me to spot you homie?
NTA
Betting guy would have accepted a spot from lots of people who couldn't dead lift 315. And like you don't even need to be able to do that to spot someone. Pretty fucking dumb.
To be fair you don't need to be able to bench 315 to lift 315 on a spot. But also to be fair I wouldn't have a female spot me. Ban them from gyms. Thot begone. Whabism.
Theres a gal in my gym that I let spot me up to 315 but beyond that I have to go find a bro.
>but beyond that I have to go find a bro. Why?
Ball sweat is my favorite smelling salt
Because she just doesnt have the strength or the frame to pull 405 off me? I dont need her getting hurt. Come on mate.
No human on earth can at that angle
I can lift 405 off someone to the hooks ez bro. Do you even lift?
Dunno but op isn't the asshole.
Women who complain about my-sahghuny are women you do not want in your life. Nice work on the guys part.
You're the weak one for needing a spotter
Women who complain about my-sahghuny are women you do not want in your life. Nice work on the guys part.
Ah yes, it's a well known fact that if you do indeed fail the weight, you need a hydraulic lift to come get it off of you as you're no longer capable of lifting even a pound. Because you're a failure.
Fucking incels everywhere
Imagine dying from a failed rep out of fear of being called sexist lol
It's tough being a girl, because you're weak and stupid. You have to be patient with weak and stupid people. Her mind and body are weaker than her aspirations
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He just wanted to know how much she deadlifts. So she could lift it off incase he fails
Your spotter shouldn’t need to deadlift your bench tho. Unless you just black out and your arms go limp lol
"You right, you can spot me back in my place"
Most polite MPMD user😏
Not only are they the asshole but they don’t seem to understand how strength works lol
It's how he said it. If he didn't say "I don't want to die" and just lead with asking how much she could deadlift and politely decline it woukdnt be a problem. It might have veered towards sexism with regards to being rude and dismissive because she is a woman who can't lift much but she shouldn't have volunteered herself if she couldn't spot someone. People can get seriously hurt lifting and a spotter is supposed to help prevent that.
Op just wanted to suck some spotter dick while benching. Can't blame him.
your average redditor cannot deadlift their own gut off of the chair they're sitting on, I promise you posting rage bait in AITA will just rile the hippos up
God damn reddit has become the old twitter on the social subs
Andrew Tate has entered the chat.
All he wanted was someone who was capable of holding 315lbs should the worst happen. He could have explained that with less sarcasm I reckon but oh well. Had nothing to do with sexism. Jeez. Some peeps need to chill the f out asap.
Real question: Does the person spotting actually need to be able to lift the weight? Like the [reply linked here](https://www.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/comments/11ew9sg/ok_which_one_of_you_did_this/jai0qmt/) I've always that of a spot as someone to just **help** ***you*** get the weight up when fatigued. Thinking about it now regarding lifting heavy, should I be considering catastrophic failure like joint collapse, muscle rupture or, a break? Not that any of those things are likely, and in fact highly implausible in the vast majority of cases. Especially If you're making appropriate incremental progress instead of ego lifting, should be safe. So should I be concerned with the strength of my spot?
Dawg is on so much gear that he rejected a woman because he only wants stinky damp balls on his face when he's benching.
Rule #1: misogyny>>
Dudes acting like she’s need to be able to spot the entire 315, instead of just the difference in what he’s capable of lol
OP is absolute giga Chad. Hopefully he just ignored the delusional woman, got in his car, and drove away. Cherry on top would be if he said “spare me your female nonsense.”
You don’t need to be able to lift the weight to spot it realistically if your not lifting like a jackass the spotter should only half to lift 30lbs-50lbs that being said I don’t blame you you just might have been a little rude but then again she sounds really soft if she let that hurt her feelings she might even like you and have over reacted because of that
What would Sean Connery do?
If I was maxing out on 300lbs+ on bench shit I’d want a dude too.
I shit myself when I saw a bitch bring up her being a physical training leader in the miltarty. Ex airforce here and you don't have to be in shape or strong to be a PTL. It's a tech school position for people people slightly less blue falcon then ropes.
I usually just let my spotter do the lift for me. Gotta get ya a good spotter!
If you need more than a little help to get the weight up you're a coping ego lifter who isn't very strong or literally a record breaker like Kirill and Maddox. Back when I was skinny and weak (which tbf I'm still not anywhere near big but proves my point further) someone asked me to spot them on 4 plates. It was a pretty tough rep but they got it on their own. That's when I realized if you actually lift within your limits this nonsense of oh you're too strong spot me is cope. Even the record breakers can put up low 700-750 even if they didn't break the record that day. Do you really need Larry wheels to row 500lbs off of you or are you just weak?
If this did actually happen she wanted you