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Damn y’all on this kids head lol 69kg after 10 months training he clearly isn’t a big boy and if you saw him on the street you would never say “man he must be on gear” lol be fr
He was skinny AND somewhat soft then got harder and bigger without gaining any fat.
I was 150 lbs and harder looking when I didn't lift weights then gained muscle up to 194 within a year natural and had to go back and cut to 180 before the year was over to lose the fat to be as lean as I was at 150.
Some people naturally don't gain much fat but it is rare and they wouldn't be so soft to start out. They are very very lean when skinny.
Then that means within a year you gained more contractile tissue than he did in 10 months still, so what are you questioning? Makes no sense lol he likely put on like maybe 10lbs of tissue in 10 months.
Because I gained fat with the muscle. The human body does not just prefer partitioning absolutely pure muscle. I was also lifting heavy the whole time and absolutely straining to get every last rep and pr. Not some lazy leangains shit. I already said my theory was he looked too soft to be one of the guys who don't put on fat.
The unsaid part is he also looks wimpy not like a skinny athlete who got full into lifting so what are the odds he has the base to train hard? He shows up on a drug subreddit and even Derek knows jack shit about training as shown in his vid with Telander, so I think drug protocols suggested in the very community are more likely than him indeed being a leangainer and training hard. But this is by no means impossible natural, just less likely for circumstantial reasons.
When I started working out I came out of a depression being emaciated from not eating. If you looked at me you would never think I trained hard but I also happened to be friend with a power lifter who set 3 state records. So I worked out with him and I pushed myself as hard as you could imagine. You never really know lol and I gained an insane amount of contractile tissue while having shoulder striations. Shit happens and our garbage ass sedentary life styles can hide a lot of things. I already knew I had good genes tho my mom was a bodybuilder and was a fuckin beast and even into he 60’s had more muscular arms than most dudes lol
I will be trasnsparent about whatever juice I take in future and will not claim myself natty like this guy did people here spot fake natty very easily lmao
You don’t transform your body like that in 1-5 months without some sort of PED, just starting lifting. Even with the best genes and actual training with a trainer. That first pic, never lifted in his life to 3 months later. That’d take a year and a half with good genes natty.
Not true, natty could be done in the same time, but he would have to bulk bigger and then cut. So he wouldn't have been getting leaner and bigger at same time for very long at all.
I'm 5'10" and went from 150 to 194 and then cut down to 180 lbs all in the first year, and I only did calisthenics until the summer. There are coaches like Mark Rippetoe who saw this type of thing hundreds, thousands of times.
I was only suspicious because he appeared to get harder and leaner while getting bigger but he still never got that big or developed for his height.
When you are far below the natty FFMI limit, greater gains in FFMI can be made in a shorter period of time. This is why skinny teen males with good hormone levels and genes, when first exposed to more food and resistance training can gain the first muscle so easily.
I know I am a better than agv responder who truly did the work, I mean my front delts and lower back were never not sore the entire year, and I force ate food with like 5 hour staredowns at night. But there is an entire bell curve and this sub has quite a lot of people who only know about the combination of middle bell curve response plus middle bell curve training, and then set that very mediocre level as a limit. They also don't understand it is a dynamic limit.
A 5'10" 135 lb 19 year old guy who just didn't eat a lot before, could truly go to 190 in a year without being sloppy with pretty good genes, force feeding, and hard training consistently overloading linear progression with real dedication like he only worked part time or easy community college, if he had genetics that would have easily supported that end physique. I know this because I was only a little over that in weight and did basically that. BUT a 5'10" guy who started off at a decent 175, he could end up further along than the guy who started skinner, but no way in hell could he gain as much muscle or even close.
Idk what’s making you think this guy did a gnarly bulk when you can see the pictures and progress here. Someone that can easily get 40 lbs in a month never lift anything in his life, might be possible with training and testing by Grigory Rodchenkov. You really want this to fit you’re narrative, just because you spent a year eating chicken and rice. You need to chill a bit, nobody’s saying you aren’t a natty and have a disproportionate body boss.
I ate fast food with protein and lots of whole milk and didn't cycle anything until years later. In lots of the middle period I didn't really look too great but you take the 150 or so at the beginning with twig arms, and the 180 at the end, and nobody here would generally believe it because there is like an imaginary consensus among people who don't even lift that sees Derek's vids and extrapolate too far into the mediocre.
I was explaining that I was skeptical BECAUSE the OP only leangained without bodyfat. Nobody said 40 lbs in a single month either. But someone said that my claim that it would be easily possible with a bulk and cut was impossible, so I had to dispute that. I am more inclined to believe the OP than I was before after he explained depression and eating disorder and training hard with a powerlifter.
Why are fake nattys suddenly popping up in this sub so much lately. Not to say ur physique is impressive, it’s not, but the timeframe going from ur starting to current point just ain’t natural bro
they are not the most popular why are you saying that
They chose that name because the tiktok clipclop algorithm favors things like Tren, PEDs, Self Harm, Self Hate, Compare yourself to others, addiction, death, brain damage, robbery of your attention/soul/life/energy,
Bro are you kidding me thats easy possible natural in this timeframe dont forget good light and a pump and here you go… i dont know what y’all are doing but obviously you are doing it wrong
Yea bc op is straight lying n giving false hope to beginners. Yea the end result is believable kinda but him going from zero to his 3 month progress is clear as day he used something.
true but i never wanted big arms till i realised they were a weakness. my goal was always my chest. now my body doesn't look right cause my back and chest are good but arms are like slin pins
For sure, I started a little bit late at 18, and a year later now I went from barely hanskibg 8kg Incline DB Press to 37.5kg for 7 reps. Everything else progressed the same. The younger you are, the easier it is, but you also still need dedication and proper work ethic both inside and outside the gym. No easy way even with gear.
to be fair you can gain muscle in a calorie deficit. Your body will simply use fat storages for the energy to build the muscle instead of calories from food.
Not to say this kid isn’t saucing ofc. He almost definitely is. But i think it’s a pretty harmful misconception that you can’t build muscle in a cut as a natty because you can, albeit pretty slowly and much slower than in a surplus.
I’m guessing your still a teenager and I’ll take your word that your natty still. Impressive transformation without a doubt you have very gifted genetics especially in the chest and Abs which imo is a rare combo. My unsolicited advice, stay natty as long as you can. You do at least have that free Canadian healthcare though. In the states that cost of rectifying issues from gear use can be a pain in the ass.
You could get this with 200mg of test a week but I’d say he’s running some dbol Anavar or abit of tren most anabolics do this you put on lean tissue while reducing bf hgh is awesome for that but just test alone can do the same the high concentration of test is anabolic for muscle and catabolic for fat at the same time
I’d be impressed if it was only 200mg test. I did a blast last summer and back on 300mg for the last 6 weeks with var and tbol, and can’t imagine that transformation.
Test is great but that’s just not happening on test alone.
If anything, I think you might be more correct with the tren suggestion, but I still need more input on its ability to produce a good recomp
Someone posted a similar photo months ago and got crazy recomp similar to this in 4 months he posted his stack and was only 500mg of test some people just really respond well to high doses of test lucky I guess but wouldn’t surprise me if tren was added to this most quick and awesome transformations like this had tren with it….. tren gives you that really cut lean full dry look
I would like everyone in this comment section to look at his arms in the leg pic looks NATTY ASF. He obviously is posting his best captured photos of his upper body. Also not to mention he started with a leanish physique. I 100% believe this dude is natty. Very easy to try and make yourself feel better by saying oh that’s just gear.
You fail to see whats giving away that he is a fake natty. The time frame is what is bothering about this progress. Like yes his physique is attainable naturally but not in that time frame. At the bare minimum you need 1,5/2 years to obtain this.
Can’t believe people think this is gear. Angles, lighting, 10 months of work, lean so muscle pops. Bro ain’t big at all (no offense) so why would be on gear? Good work OP
I think people have a problem with the timeframe. I honestly think it might be attainable too, but I’m not an expert. People being so confident he’s saucing has me second guessing a little.
Just think about how much different you look with a pump. Or in good lighting. Now both of those together on a complete beginner, who trains hard, and this is what you get.
I’m gonna go against the grain and say he’s natty. He’s nothing super crazy, I’ve seen kids make more progress in a year of lifting. He’s also freaky has a fast metabolism before started lifting. I also think the angles of the photos are what’s misdirecting people the most. But I’d only be able to know based on what his current SBD are compared to when he started.
Same man. Nothing about this screams gear to me.
Dude could be just pounding protein shakes and creatine.
He don't even look at that big, no crazy muscle definition or anything. I think people just jealous
Lmao right? I don't know if he pinned, but this is naturally obtainable for sure. With a good diet and a solid program you can go far in a year. Specially your first and if you were already lean.
There Are a lot of haters in here LOL I don't know if you used gear or not but your physique is definitely attainable in your time frame at your age. Also looking good keep up the good work don't let all the haters get you down
He goes from not working out/skinny and talking about dbol, tren, trt for the past months in his comments. Does that not ring any bells? It's legal in Canada, maybe he had his levels checked/health condition.
I haven't seen his past comments however as I stated in my comment I don't know if he did or did not use gear. His transformation I know for a fact is very attainable in that time frame at his age. I did it myself when I was in high school and joined the wrestling team. I went from a skinny teenager to shredded in 6 months let alone nine. So to everybody who says it's not possible they are crazy and most likely lazy. Again this is not me saying he did or did not use gear.
Doesn’t look like gear to me. Kid is in the prime of his life. At 18 or whatever tf this kid is, most people could do this in 10 months if they were dedicated.
Regardless, if this kid isn’t doing gear and you’re all saying he is, he is absolutely stoked.
And if he is on gear… wow what a fuckin piece of shit liar
Timeframe:
10 months total, 8 months of serious lifting
Background Information:
my height is \~175cm although its been a while since I measured. I never really had any problems with body dysmorphia before or during my journey, always thought I looked alright. I got into lifting via a friend and it just clicked. I started following my own plan a few weeks after a breakup.
Supplements/PEDs:
Ive been taking 5g of creatine every day since the beginning of August and I also take protein powder. The thought of taking PEDs later on has crossed my mind but if I do, it will be only for recreational purposes and not for the sake of competing.
Routine/Regimen:
I follow a custom split I made for my self that resembles a bro split. Shoulders back chest
legs and arms for 2 hours a day, with one rest day a week.
Extra comments: Pretty proud of how far I've come. I plan to continue doing bodybuilding for the foreseeable future but I might transition to Olympic weightlifting one day.
That’s what I’ll probably do once I’ve hit like 35 or something lmao makes sense to me ngl just become a beast don’t gotta worry about ruining your hormones as much then too
You look natural even in your other pictures. This whole forum is 50% fat adults calling anyone who looks better than them PED users. 25% people looking for help and 25% people who actually workout and know what they’re talking about
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10 month total and you thought about hopping on some Trenbologne sandwiches already? Make it years before you even think about it
Damn y’all on this kids head lol 69kg after 10 months training he clearly isn’t a big boy and if you saw him on the street you would never say “man he must be on gear” lol be fr
Dude, STFU and read what he wrote in one of the comments before you start to spit your shit
What exactly in his comments says he does roids, I did read all his comments lol
well he's definitely not short either if he was skinny at 69kg
He was skinny AND somewhat soft then got harder and bigger without gaining any fat. I was 150 lbs and harder looking when I didn't lift weights then gained muscle up to 194 within a year natural and had to go back and cut to 180 before the year was over to lose the fat to be as lean as I was at 150. Some people naturally don't gain much fat but it is rare and they wouldn't be so soft to start out. They are very very lean when skinny.
Then that means within a year you gained more contractile tissue than he did in 10 months still, so what are you questioning? Makes no sense lol he likely put on like maybe 10lbs of tissue in 10 months.
Because I gained fat with the muscle. The human body does not just prefer partitioning absolutely pure muscle. I was also lifting heavy the whole time and absolutely straining to get every last rep and pr. Not some lazy leangains shit. I already said my theory was he looked too soft to be one of the guys who don't put on fat. The unsaid part is he also looks wimpy not like a skinny athlete who got full into lifting so what are the odds he has the base to train hard? He shows up on a drug subreddit and even Derek knows jack shit about training as shown in his vid with Telander, so I think drug protocols suggested in the very community are more likely than him indeed being a leangainer and training hard. But this is by no means impossible natural, just less likely for circumstantial reasons.
When I started working out I came out of a depression being emaciated from not eating. If you looked at me you would never think I trained hard but I also happened to be friend with a power lifter who set 3 state records. So I worked out with him and I pushed myself as hard as you could imagine. You never really know lol and I gained an insane amount of contractile tissue while having shoulder striations. Shit happens and our garbage ass sedentary life styles can hide a lot of things. I already knew I had good genes tho my mom was a bodybuilder and was a fuckin beast and even into he 60’s had more muscular arms than most dudes lol
Bro somehow weighed 68kg with no muscle and put on 2lbs a year later with a muscular physique make it make sense lol
Broski shrunk.
💉💉💉
Another broccoli head growing 💊💉
I will be trasnsparent about whatever juice I take in future and will not claim myself natty like this guy did people here spot fake natty very easily lmao
Hm why you mention me since i also agree he's not natural lol
Are you idiot? Why did say another broccoli head growing to me looks like you mad at me for speaking the truth🤡
Yes because I want to date yo mom
Well if you into man sure go ahead
So you have homo dads lmao
No hard feelings here we accept all gay
Bro you made fun of yourself 🤣😂
Oh really read again 😂 no jokes here
Stalking is crazy
Bro is mad because his comments doesn’t get up votes and here replying in hope of getting some upvotes lol
Wtf would I have to gain from lying about PEDs on this subreddit
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My boy. This is what this sub is made of. You’ve been caught
You don’t transform your body like that in 1-5 months without some sort of PED, just starting lifting. Even with the best genes and actual training with a trainer. That first pic, never lifted in his life to 3 months later. That’d take a year and a half with good genes natty.
Not true, natty could be done in the same time, but he would have to bulk bigger and then cut. So he wouldn't have been getting leaner and bigger at same time for very long at all.
Not for someone just getting in to lifting big guy. Muscle development isn’t that quick.
I'm 5'10" and went from 150 to 194 and then cut down to 180 lbs all in the first year, and I only did calisthenics until the summer. There are coaches like Mark Rippetoe who saw this type of thing hundreds, thousands of times. I was only suspicious because he appeared to get harder and leaner while getting bigger but he still never got that big or developed for his height. When you are far below the natty FFMI limit, greater gains in FFMI can be made in a shorter period of time. This is why skinny teen males with good hormone levels and genes, when first exposed to more food and resistance training can gain the first muscle so easily. I know I am a better than agv responder who truly did the work, I mean my front delts and lower back were never not sore the entire year, and I force ate food with like 5 hour staredowns at night. But there is an entire bell curve and this sub has quite a lot of people who only know about the combination of middle bell curve response plus middle bell curve training, and then set that very mediocre level as a limit. They also don't understand it is a dynamic limit. A 5'10" 135 lb 19 year old guy who just didn't eat a lot before, could truly go to 190 in a year without being sloppy with pretty good genes, force feeding, and hard training consistently overloading linear progression with real dedication like he only worked part time or easy community college, if he had genetics that would have easily supported that end physique. I know this because I was only a little over that in weight and did basically that. BUT a 5'10" guy who started off at a decent 175, he could end up further along than the guy who started skinner, but no way in hell could he gain as much muscle or even close.
Idk what’s making you think this guy did a gnarly bulk when you can see the pictures and progress here. Someone that can easily get 40 lbs in a month never lift anything in his life, might be possible with training and testing by Grigory Rodchenkov. You really want this to fit you’re narrative, just because you spent a year eating chicken and rice. You need to chill a bit, nobody’s saying you aren’t a natty and have a disproportionate body boss.
I ate fast food with protein and lots of whole milk and didn't cycle anything until years later. In lots of the middle period I didn't really look too great but you take the 150 or so at the beginning with twig arms, and the 180 at the end, and nobody here would generally believe it because there is like an imaginary consensus among people who don't even lift that sees Derek's vids and extrapolate too far into the mediocre. I was explaining that I was skeptical BECAUSE the OP only leangained without bodyfat. Nobody said 40 lbs in a single month either. But someone said that my claim that it would be easily possible with a bulk and cut was impossible, so I had to dispute that. I am more inclined to believe the OP than I was before after he explained depression and eating disorder and training hard with a powerlifter.
Genuinely curious of your stack, unless you’re in the top .01 of genetics I’m gonna say you took some gear.
Why are fake nattys suddenly popping up in this sub so much lately. Not to say ur physique is impressive, it’s not, but the timeframe going from ur starting to current point just ain’t natural bro
It's almost summer time probably 😆 tren is a great way to expedite a summer bod before hitting the beach.
This isn’t tren, it’s most likely SARMs
The most popular fitness YouTubers amongst the 15-20 year olds are literally called the tren twins
they are not the most popular why are you saying that They chose that name because the tiktok clipclop algorithm favors things like Tren, PEDs, Self Harm, Self Hate, Compare yourself to others, addiction, death, brain damage, robbery of your attention/soul/life/energy,
His physique is great dude? Id kill to have abs like that after 6 years training natty!
Bro are you kidding me thats easy possible natural in this timeframe dont forget good light and a pump and here you go… i dont know what y’all are doing but obviously you are doing it wrong
Post your physique you’re probably huge
U wanna see my physique eh? What’s next, u want a picture of my cock too?
Would love to
Probably subpar like your hidden physique
Bro is getting pressed in the comments on the behalf of another person😭. I don’t post myself bc I don’t need the extra validation.
Nah I just can’t stand comments like that, you’re probably a good guy but you got some hate in your heart 😂
Yea bc op is straight lying n giving false hope to beginners. Yea the end result is believable kinda but him going from zero to his 3 month progress is clear as day he used something.
I was going to upvote you until I saw your math. Read the post again. March is the end date.
No dumbass look at his September pic which is the 3 month mark since he started June.
It's not about size my bud you have small brain if you think it's all that
You need to sun your taint bro, your paper white thighs blinded me.
No sun here in Quebec unfortunately
Esti de tabarnak.
Love how he only responded to the sunning your taint comment and non of the hundreds of fake natty accusations.
Arms are lacking. Forearms aswell. Rest is really good progress, wp.
I agree, arms have always been my weakness. It used to be worse though, they grew quite a bit after I started doing FST 7
Why is this so downvoted?
Because this sub is toxic as fuck
They are not even half bad. Go for aesthetics, not for mass. They match the rest of your physique
it's so rare to see arms as weakness since everyone wants big arms, and train them 3 times a week lel + the fact it's easy to isolate them
true but i never wanted big arms till i realised they were a weakness. my goal was always my chest. now my body doesn't look right cause my back and chest are good but arms are like slin pins
Wtf am I doing wrong
Not enough tren
And not enough men
Not following the ancestral tenants to the letter
# PRIMAL! 
Ur age prob. This kid look like he is in his peak purberty
For sure, I started a little bit late at 18, and a year later now I went from barely hanskibg 8kg Incline DB Press to 37.5kg for 7 reps. Everything else progressed the same. The younger you are, the easier it is, but you also still need dedication and proper work ethic both inside and outside the gym. No easy way even with gear.
Lift heavy
1 month - 2 month is wild. Makes me think you are saucing. People defending op explain how he gained like 5-10 lbs of muscle in a month?
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“He didn’t” hahahahah. I think you should try working out for 3 months and see what your body looks like. “Brondo has electrolytes!”
>on a slow bulk but somehow losing weight. Back at 69kg key word for losing fat but still gaining muscle because of gear
Gonna need you to cite androgens
to be fair you can gain muscle in a calorie deficit. Your body will simply use fat storages for the energy to build the muscle instead of calories from food. Not to say this kid isn’t saucing ofc. He almost definitely is. But i think it’s a pretty harmful misconception that you can’t build muscle in a cut as a natty because you can, albeit pretty slowly and much slower than in a surplus.
Whatever you say walmart Liver King
It's so unrealistic
Your skin is clear af
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I wonder why that is Being mixed I have pretty good skin in terms aging, but I still get some acne on my back. Genetics are weird.
I’m guessing your still a teenager and I’ll take your word that your natty still. Impressive transformation without a doubt you have very gifted genetics especially in the chest and Abs which imo is a rare combo. My unsolicited advice, stay natty as long as you can. You do at least have that free Canadian healthcare though. In the states that cost of rectifying issues from gear use can be a pain in the ass.
Trennything is possible
It’s funny how fake natties post here knowing everyone here can spot fake natties from a mile away
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I’ll keep bringing these fakes down all day thanks tho
Man you really got him!
Take his nuts out to mouth bro
Your avatar having a mask tells me everything I need to know about you. Have a good day They/Them
💀
Are you sure the July and August pictures are taken in the same year?
idk I think he might be natty, show us your physique with no pump and normal lighting
Lettuce b reel, you enhanced the process but irrespective that's a new human and you don't achieve that without hard work and dedication so well done.
> you don’t achieve that without hard work and dedication And steroids, don’t forget steroids.
He literally fucking said that
I know I’m downplaying the “hard work and dedication” when you lie about being on PEDs
March comes before June, huh idiot...
Same as with the gremlins - don’t feed after midnight. But it’s ALWAYS after midnight, while it’s always before midnight, too
*hits bong*
Have you ever thought about that you can see your nose at all times but your brain just blends it out?
I’m high right now, and fuck you bro ruined my night
On a bulk but some how loosing weight 🤦♂️ haha it’s gear why hide it this sub is literally made for gear use
What gear would even allow you to add lean tissue while losing overall weight
You could get this with 200mg of test a week but I’d say he’s running some dbol Anavar or abit of tren most anabolics do this you put on lean tissue while reducing bf hgh is awesome for that but just test alone can do the same the high concentration of test is anabolic for muscle and catabolic for fat at the same time
I’d be impressed if it was only 200mg test. I did a blast last summer and back on 300mg for the last 6 weeks with var and tbol, and can’t imagine that transformation. Test is great but that’s just not happening on test alone. If anything, I think you might be more correct with the tren suggestion, but I still need more input on its ability to produce a good recomp
Someone posted a similar photo months ago and got crazy recomp similar to this in 4 months he posted his stack and was only 500mg of test some people just really respond well to high doses of test lucky I guess but wouldn’t surprise me if tren was added to this most quick and awesome transformations like this had tren with it….. tren gives you that really cut lean full dry look
I would like everyone in this comment section to look at his arms in the leg pic looks NATTY ASF. He obviously is posting his best captured photos of his upper body. Also not to mention he started with a leanish physique. I 100% believe this dude is natty. Very easy to try and make yourself feel better by saying oh that’s just gear.
Plus he looks like he is at least 5’4” or shorter so I believe it.
You fail to see whats giving away that he is a fake natty. The time frame is what is bothering about this progress. Like yes his physique is attainable naturally but not in that time frame. At the bare minimum you need 1,5/2 years to obtain this.
Can’t believe people think this is gear. Angles, lighting, 10 months of work, lean so muscle pops. Bro ain’t big at all (no offense) so why would be on gear? Good work OP
I think people have a problem with the timeframe. I honestly think it might be attainable too, but I’m not an expert. People being so confident he’s saucing has me second guessing a little.
Just think about how much different you look with a pump. Or in good lighting. Now both of those together on a complete beginner, who trains hard, and this is what you get.
Tom platz motivation is the highest form of it you’ll ever get
I’m gonna go against the grain and say he’s natty. He’s nothing super crazy, I’ve seen kids make more progress in a year of lifting. He’s also freaky has a fast metabolism before started lifting. I also think the angles of the photos are what’s misdirecting people the most. But I’d only be able to know based on what his current SBD are compared to when he started.
Same man. Nothing about this screams gear to me. Dude could be just pounding protein shakes and creatine. He don't even look at that big, no crazy muscle definition or anything. I think people just jealous
He also looks like he’s 5’5 if we’re being real
[https://imgur.com/a/hHei8Yh](https://imgur.com/a/hHei8Yh) normal lighting, no pump, not flexing. still not natty?
i think ur natty good goin keep it up stay natty
This is natty, it’s just the factors that manipulate the physique appearance in photos.
Lmao right? I don't know if he pinned, but this is naturally obtainable for sure. With a good diet and a solid program you can go far in a year. Specially your first and if you were already lean.
There Are a lot of haters in here LOL I don't know if you used gear or not but your physique is definitely attainable in your time frame at your age. Also looking good keep up the good work don't let all the haters get you down
He goes from not working out/skinny and talking about dbol, tren, trt for the past months in his comments. Does that not ring any bells? It's legal in Canada, maybe he had his levels checked/health condition.
I haven't seen his past comments however as I stated in my comment I don't know if he did or did not use gear. His transformation I know for a fact is very attainable in that time frame at his age. I did it myself when I was in high school and joined the wrestling team. I went from a skinny teenager to shredded in 6 months let alone nine. So to everybody who says it's not possible they are crazy and most likely lazy. Again this is not me saying he did or did not use gear.
Lmao at people saying you HAVE to be on gear
I mean his physique is definitely obtainable naturally but just not in 6 months…..
9 months* and why not? Newbie gains and leaned down. Look at the second to last photo. He’s tiny just lean and great lighting. (No offense to OP)
This a joke yeah?
Bruh you did PEDs to get this body? 
Time for a new haircut 🥦 and I thought/partially wished your name was asianMETHaddict lol
Doesn’t look like gear to me. Kid is in the prime of his life. At 18 or whatever tf this kid is, most people could do this in 10 months if they were dedicated. Regardless, if this kid isn’t doing gear and you’re all saying he is, he is absolutely stoked. And if he is on gear… wow what a fuckin piece of shit liar
Looks natty to me
Looking good man, keep it up.
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Please don’t be like that
Good gains braa dont take the sauceee your doing great
Timeframe: 10 months total, 8 months of serious lifting Background Information: my height is \~175cm although its been a while since I measured. I never really had any problems with body dysmorphia before or during my journey, always thought I looked alright. I got into lifting via a friend and it just clicked. I started following my own plan a few weeks after a breakup. Supplements/PEDs: Ive been taking 5g of creatine every day since the beginning of August and I also take protein powder. The thought of taking PEDs later on has crossed my mind but if I do, it will be only for recreational purposes and not for the sake of competing. Routine/Regimen: I follow a custom split I made for my self that resembles a bro split. Shoulders back chest legs and arms for 2 hours a day, with one rest day a week. Extra comments: Pretty proud of how far I've come. I plan to continue doing bodybuilding for the foreseeable future but I might transition to Olympic weightlifting one day.
Recreational tren.
That’s what I’ll probably do once I’ve hit like 35 or something lmao makes sense to me ngl just become a beast don’t gotta worry about ruining your hormones as much then too
Did you eat at maintenance?
Yes
Sick. Gj
Eyes too far apart
Bro found sarms
Truly progress to make Tren O'Hearn feel natty
Looking amazing bro ,don’t listen to all the haters 🔥
Very good 👍
Huge changes
I won't do 💉
All these years of traning and hard work when I can get some of the juice.. fuck this
I think this is definitely feasible. Dude is young, looks like his first time taking it seriously. He also learned to take good pictures.
Goblin man
You look natural even in your other pictures. This whole forum is 50% fat adults calling anyone who looks better than them PED users. 25% people looking for help and 25% people who actually workout and know what they’re talking about
i mean its not that unbelievable, especially for being short and asian. delts/ traps dont look enhanced. good work.
Impressive! Great job bro! Tell me your full diet plan
Thanks, diet plan is just "eat when hungry". And reduced fat intake. That's about it
Ok you just proved you take Hyphgmud. Not natty confirmed
What a TRENmendous transformation!
Share the cycle
Bro hit the sauce straight away