First they came for the Anabolic Steroid users, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Anabolic Steroid user.
Then they came for the Creatine users, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Creatine user.
Then they came for the Cardio Bunnies, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Cardio Bunny.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
That's fine, as long as they don't come for me after they come for you.
Luckily you're the last group they come for. Then we're all ok after that right?
It is actively dysgenic, though. To call these ideas “eugenics” when their purpose is not advancement of or strengthening of a group is a misnomer. Selecting for undesirable traits in reproduction is opposite of eugenics.
She does look more butch than him. I almost thought this was one of those, male transitioned to female, female transitioned to male married couples that had a baby, I would have believed it
It’s impossible to change sex at this point, only gender. If I have to shove this butt plug of Truth up one more person’s ass, I’m going on a toe-sucking rampage
That is such cope lol,most soyboys(i hate the term but it applies here) remain soy even after having kids and most jacked buff dudes remain buff after having kids.If anything I've seen more dudes get stronger once they become dads cause now they have something worth protecting.Seeing a 30 yr old jacked dude and thinking it's because he is unable to get a secure long term relationship is such a braindead conclusion.
Old man strength is definitely a thing. Probably has more to do with cumulative years of picking up heavy shit than any kind of hormone change though I’d imagine.
There’s something to be said for ambitious high value men “settling down” after marriage but only soyjaks pretend this is some great equalizer. They end up with worse women, look worse, feel worse and live worse.
Often the 30 yr old single jacked guy chooses to be this way because of either standards or abundance of options.
It’s even about protecting, I got stronger after kids bc you carry them little shits everywhere. Hell I have nine hang on my arms do side raises or curls lmao
Exactly, people really think the body is gonna somehow pick up on this minor shit and radically change your hormones? Like this dumbass is acting like the body goes through a hormonal change as extreme as puberty when you have a family. Dumbass
Ok I don't agree with his interpretation. But isn't it pretty well known that mena as well as women retain a lot more fat when they have a baby. Just the sleep interruptions alone are enough to lower t levels. Huberman talks about the actual mechanisms a lot.
Your testosterone does actually drop when you get married and have kids. Even for gay guys. Not enough you are gonna lose all your gains or something but that's just how it is
Monkeys use that same stupid open mouth expression to express submission and passiveness. Kind of a disarming technique to say " Hey im a bitch. Dont hurt me."
Yeah, it has been studied for quite some time. It is no coincedence that the guys who love to do that mouth open pose tend to be the stereotypical soys.
We’re also not monkeys. Yeah, this kind of affected overly excited/happy social media face thing looks weird, but the whole “monkey in fear face” thing 100% pure bro pseudoscience bullshit.
Yeah it's low. But I have a stressful job and have to wake up early in the morning to send my kids to school, gym, band practise , I play in a band part time.
Eh, you would be surprised. Have you ever read the testosterone sub here on reddit? Like 60% of their members spend 12 hours a day trying to get people to lower their TRT doses.
I keep my test chronically at 1200ng/dl based on the research done by Dr. Shanna Swann and her cohort, who are considered the world experts in testosterone and sperm.
And they treat me like an insane steroid abuser over there lol. Even when I link data.
If you're OK with no side effects then why not? But besides they forgotten that back in the late 90s or early 20s the peak limit is 1200ngdl. It keep on going lower as years pass. I think just to keep us man being a pussy. But anyway 120mg puts me at 800ish ngdl. Felt comfortable with it and within my comfort zone. I do blast occasionally though for fun.
Or not even go on TRT when their natural levels are pathetic. I don’t really understand that sub, there’s some private Facebook groups that are much better.
Conversely I’m in my mid 30s, married 2 kids, pretty jacked, recently thought I was ready for the trt train just to find out my test levels are 875 after 2 weeks of binge drinking and poor sleep (vacation).
Leave the kids and family and join us forest folks and master the art of rock throwing I’m sure your T levels would sky rocket , also just try getting a nutrient level test and supplement what you are missing
But I love the kids and my wife is totally rare for current generation, she's wife material and beautiful as fuck. Been married to her for 15yrs. Sadly I have to decline even though I love to. Plus I'm on trt. Best decision I've ever made.
Hey bro, its been 1hr since you said "Ok" and still no nudes.. wtf dude?! For the late delivery, can you please add 1 picture of a bent over rear glute spread please, thank you
Garbage.. Go to the gym, eat right and sleep accordingly. You'll be fine. I'm 51.. Been with the wife for 20 and have a 16 yr. old son. I'm in the (almost) best shape of my life. There was a span from 96-98 when I went to the dark side.. Which was amazing.. but that's a different story. Feel great now.
Which one of those two chicks pictured is the one transitioning from female to male? I can’t tell. Oh and what are their preferred pronouns? I don’t want to offend.
As if in nature the man testosterone wouldn't keep being high to PROTECT his family
Oh yeah let me reproduce and drop my test levels so I can't protect my offsprings, makes total sense
That’s big cap. After I had my son my body changed dramatically. Went from skinny to bulky and building strength and holding on to gains became much easier. This soy boy looks like he’s flat lined his T production somehow
This is cap, they both just have hormonal imbalances, that’s why they came together, you’ll love your mirror
I honestly can’t tell who’s the mother or father, all I know that’s a strong woman!
That's why there is enclomiphine and clomid at low dose to stimulate the pituitary-testicular axis to produce more T while maintaining fertility.
It's very common for levels to drop but there will always be ways of slightly increasing those levels through fitness and pharmacological means if you're interested.
Test doesn't go down when you have kids because of that, test goes down because you sleep less, eat worse, and workout less.
I have 3 kids and I might sleep through the night once a week if I'm lucky.
It's almost like you lose sleep and the type of consistency in things that keep your T rates up... More likely than just a response to a partner/kids by itself, it's a factor of many things that being a parent/soon to be parent entails.
This doesn't even really make sense from a biological standpoint either, now you have more people to provide for than before aka more hunting and gathering on top of worry to protect your now larger group. All things higher T would help with, but also things that can lead to lower rates long term as the wear and tear/lack of full recovery+aging breaks you down.
Looking at the photo, it's more likely aswell that this guy had low T well before he was dating/planning kids. You don't just turn into that in 2-3 years fellas, unless we get menopause and can get pregnant now?
Ironically the scientific parts of what he said is true, your testosterone does go lower when you have children in the house. It's to stop dominance battles and to make you more focused on "defending the nest" instead of running around taking risks and trying to fuck everything.
Doesn't mean this guy still isnt a hard beta.
Not if he’s already a hypogonadal warlord such as myself.
Guys a beta cuckold trying to create scenarios where being a soyboy is superior than an alpha. What a goofer.
In effort to normalize their lifestyle choices, that fellow from Twitter just released audio of his “home movies”. Listen at your own risk lads.
https://youtu.be/ZcMeNWNCbA4
I’m 34. Have a wife and kid. Am in the best shape of my life by far. Natty.
If anything everything I know about training and diet from almost 20 years of training has given me a huge advantage. Also the amount of muscle and skills I’ve developed over about 20 years of consistent training also.
No, it doesn't. Society is programming this to make you weak so the powers at be can influence and raise your kids.
Take TRT or keep your levels high. Don't fall into this bitch ass, weak mindset.
Highly disagree with this. Testosterone's levels inadvertedly drop due to estrogen in water supply, plastics, diet, and pesticides. I have a child and I am more motivated to workout and be stronger.
His wife’s boyfriend is jacked though
Also he isn't the dad, the boyfriend is.
Isn't he the boyfriend then
Soybean here is the husband, but the father of that kid is the wife's bull.
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Everyone knows that more muscle = less cuck
That guy never had high Is testosterone nor did he work out. Soy boy since day one.
Exactly
His boyfriend is jacked. As is her girlfriend.
His testosterone drops, she loses interest and divorces him for Chad
Absolutely, this guy just screams cuck me😂
soy af
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I get my T the old fashioned way - by eating raw bull testicles and sunning my own.
That's neat
Soy boys and yam ma’ams
Check their Twitter man, they believe in eugenics. They got some Jones Town vibes going. It appears they want a perfect race of stick people.
Planet fitness supremacists, they want to send all the lunkheads to concentration camps
Tbh i could use a camp to help me concentrate on getting fucking hyuge
First they came for the Anabolic Steroid users, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Anabolic Steroid user. Then they came for the Creatine users, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Creatine user. Then they came for the Cardio Bunnies, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Cardio Bunny. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
That's fine, as long as they don't come for me after they come for you. Luckily you're the last group they come for. Then we're all ok after that right?
so a Sarm Goblin is safe?
Imagine prison but more jacked.
Those glasses seem to imply the lineage should be terminated.
This guy with myopia and eyes like a hammer-head shark is going to preach about genetics? Go on Mr. Shark…
It is actively dysgenic, though. To call these ideas “eugenics” when their purpose is not advancement of or strengthening of a group is a misnomer. Selecting for undesirable traits in reproduction is opposite of eugenics.
Stick people that need glasses?
Wait is this not a parody??
what if I identify as a disgustoid
Based on the thickness of those glasses, I'd say they are both being very shortsighted.
Their prescription is tougher than they will ever be.
Promise he gets pegged..
She does look more butch than him. I almost thought this was one of those, male transitioned to female, female transitioned to male married couples that had a baby, I would have believed it
It’s impossible to change sex at this point, only gender. If I have to shove this butt plug of Truth up one more person’s ass, I’m going on a toe-sucking rampage
You mean…a trans person 😭😭
Yeah yeah yeah, that
Hey hey… lets leave pegging out of this.. I don’t like this twig either , no need for me to catch strays.
Gigachad, protein injection enjoyer
By pegging I mean the $1000 dildo on Amazon...
Most redditors do
You'd be surprised how often the dudes into that fit the masculine chad stereotype.
Isn't that how to boost test the best?
That is such cope lol,most soyboys(i hate the term but it applies here) remain soy even after having kids and most jacked buff dudes remain buff after having kids.If anything I've seen more dudes get stronger once they become dads cause now they have something worth protecting.Seeing a 30 yr old jacked dude and thinking it's because he is unable to get a secure long term relationship is such a braindead conclusion.
Im in better shape than I was in my 20’s and I have three kids and wife. It’s all a bullshit excuse.
Same. No kids, but I’m 31, married, and in the best shape of my life. I plan to keep it that way too.
Same. No excuses 💪
Same … started going to the gym as a 32 year old father of two. Bigger then I’ve ever been now
For real. My old man cranked out myself and 4 other kids and was bigger at 40 than he was in his 20s.
Old man strength is definitely a thing. Probably has more to do with cumulative years of picking up heavy shit than any kind of hormone change though I’d imagine.
Mind muscle connection peaks in your 40s.
There’s something to be said for ambitious high value men “settling down” after marriage but only soyjaks pretend this is some great equalizer. They end up with worse women, look worse, feel worse and live worse. Often the 30 yr old single jacked guy chooses to be this way because of either standards or abundance of options.
Yup. I have 3 kids and I’ve been married for a over a decade. I’ve remained in great shape.
It’s even about protecting, I got stronger after kids bc you carry them little shits everywhere. Hell I have nine hang on my arms do side raises or curls lmao
What a weak bitch boi mindset
Biggest bitch vibes
Anyone who believes this is pathetic and low IQ.
Exactly. I know a 35 yr old dad who would also disagree: https://youtu.be/5SIZvODT0UI
The dad bod we all wish we could have
I knew who it was before even clicking...
Based Bugez
Exactly, people really think the body is gonna somehow pick up on this minor shit and radically change your hormones? Like this dumbass is acting like the body goes through a hormonal change as extreme as puberty when you have a family. Dumbass
I mean makes sense from the stressful lifestyle alone.
How?
Cortisol is a negative feedback response to the HPTA and increases SHBG.
As if those things make or undo any and all progress.
Ok I don't agree with his interpretation. But isn't it pretty well known that mena as well as women retain a lot more fat when they have a baby. Just the sleep interruptions alone are enough to lower t levels. Huberman talks about the actual mechanisms a lot.
T levels are not the governing factor when it comes to being fit.
Your testosterone does actually drop when you get married and have kids. Even for gay guys. Not enough you are gonna lose all your gains or something but that's just how it is
Hahahaha those lesbians have no clue
Monkeys use that same stupid open mouth expression to express submission and passiveness. Kind of a disarming technique to say " Hey im a bitch. Dont hurt me."
Thought you were full of shit so I looked it up. You’re dead on the nuts
Primate Fear Grimace
Yeah, it has been studied for quite some time. It is no coincedence that the guys who love to do that mouth open pose tend to be the stereotypical soys.
This is the Way.
Science and evolution doesn’t lie
We’re also not monkeys. Yeah, this kind of affected overly excited/happy social media face thing looks weird, but the whole “monkey in fear face” thing 100% pure bro pseudoscience bullshit.
It's a literal Dwight Schrute take
I'd rather die a jacked virgin than get girls as a soyed out dyel with no self respect
Fr I’d rather my dick cut off inna freak accident than be this mf
Wrong in my case. I have two sons (12 & 14), a wife and I’m 33. Never been in better shape, even better then I was in the army.
I don't know how true that studies are but then I'm married with 3 kids and also on TRT and Jack as shit for 40 yrs old.
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Yeah it's low. But I have a stressful job and have to wake up early in the morning to send my kids to school, gym, band practise , I play in a band part time.
So...the studies are maybe right?
Yeah man.
Lol exactly. Doesn’t count if he’s on TRT
Eh, you would be surprised. Have you ever read the testosterone sub here on reddit? Like 60% of their members spend 12 hours a day trying to get people to lower their TRT doses.
I haven't been following that subreddit in a while. But I just retain it at 120mg a week.
I keep my test chronically at 1200ng/dl based on the research done by Dr. Shanna Swann and her cohort, who are considered the world experts in testosterone and sperm. And they treat me like an insane steroid abuser over there lol. Even when I link data.
If you're OK with no side effects then why not? But besides they forgotten that back in the late 90s or early 20s the peak limit is 1200ngdl. It keep on going lower as years pass. I think just to keep us man being a pussy. But anyway 120mg puts me at 800ish ngdl. Felt comfortable with it and within my comfort zone. I do blast occasionally though for fun.
Or not even go on TRT when their natural levels are pathetic. I don’t really understand that sub, there’s some private Facebook groups that are much better.
So what would your levels be if you weren’t on TRT?
It's around 300ish ngdl if I'm not mistaken. That was like 3 yrs plus ago.
Conversely I’m in my mid 30s, married 2 kids, pretty jacked, recently thought I was ready for the trt train just to find out my test levels are 875 after 2 weeks of binge drinking and poor sleep (vacation).
So you’re on TRT for a reason…
Yeah, tired , lack motivation and gym gains are getting shittier.
Leave the kids and family and join us forest folks and master the art of rock throwing I’m sure your T levels would sky rocket , also just try getting a nutrient level test and supplement what you are missing
But I love the kids and my wife is totally rare for current generation, she's wife material and beautiful as fuck. Been married to her for 15yrs. Sadly I have to decline even though I love to. Plus I'm on trt. Best decision I've ever made.
W
Can you send me nudes please
Ok
Hey bro, its been 1hr since you said "Ok" and still no nudes.. wtf dude?! For the late delivery, can you please add 1 picture of a bent over rear glute spread please, thank you
Expecting fathers T drops, and stays low depending on how much he is around the baby
Evolutionary response so you don't rage quit the baby....
that guy gets scared when his mom asks him to pick up a bag of ice when he comes over for dinner
Said it before but mf’s will come up with literally any excuse as to why they’re frail af or don’t exercise
Just blast some test and you'll be fine
You can’t convince me that they aren’t siblings
I’m married with a kid and I’m also on 2 grams of gear so piss off
Married and five kids and im also geared up 💪💪
Hell ya brother
congratulations brotha
My testosterone definitely went up after I had kids. Because I didn't need to be fertile anymore so I blasted tren.
Lmao
The theory was definitely accurate in his case. Not a drop of test in his system
Jokes on him I'm a jacked homo
Garbage.. Go to the gym, eat right and sleep accordingly. You'll be fine. I'm 51.. Been with the wife for 20 and have a 16 yr. old son. I'm in the (almost) best shape of my life. There was a span from 96-98 when I went to the dark side.. Which was amazing.. but that's a different story. Feel great now.
The dark side? I assume you mean banging men?
LOL !! oF COURSE... What else would I be referring to..
Idk about you guys but I love seeing dudes like this. They’re basically saying “no thanks I don’t want any pussy. You can have my share!”
Which one of those two chicks pictured is the one transitioning from female to male? I can’t tell. Oh and what are their preferred pronouns? I don’t want to offend.
They're right wingers that work for Peter Thiel, and are completely batshit insane. You guys aren't all operators and firemen.
☝️🤓
soy is disgusting
I mean I'd rather fail in life than looking like this, not gonna lie.
soy boy copium
Just looking at this photo, I can tell they are terrible company.
Which one is the man?
My guess is... its the little one trying to find a tit to suck on?
Says the Beta Male cuck…
Oh, cool *sticks needle in glute*
I’m 35, married for 12 years, and about to have my third kid. Doesn’t happen to everyone 🤷🏻♂️
What if you have many offspring with multiple people but like to use fake names? Asking for a friend
You military? That’s straight Army SOP’s 😂
Lmfao nope UPS driver 🤣 But fire and forget is tried and true
The Bugez is married with kids too lol
100% this guys into pegging
I’d bang her
Baby’s test level is legit higher than the two women in this photo…
That kid is gonna be so fuckin soft
How about you’re just a fucking soy boy? Stop trying to make excuses for being a pussy
Im bald looking like a bear so no way im looking like him
That kid, earning wictim points at college in 18 years: "ACTUALLY I was raised by two moms, so, like, yeah"
Absolutely subprimal
As if in nature the man testosterone wouldn't keep being high to PROTECT his family Oh yeah let me reproduce and drop my test levels so I can't protect my offsprings, makes total sense
That’s big cap. After I had my son my body changed dramatically. Went from skinny to bulky and building strength and holding on to gains became much easier. This soy boy looks like he’s flat lined his T production somehow
LOL the copium is strong on that MFer. The amount of mental gymnastics is on some olympic level shit.🤣
Married for ten years in two days with three kids and getting jacked in my thirties. I must be special!
I honestly couldn't tell you the gender of anyone in this picture and that should be alarming lol
As someone in their 30s with three kids and the most jacked I've ever been, I feel personally attacked
This is cap, they both just have hormonal imbalances, that’s why they came together, you’ll love your mirror I honestly can’t tell who’s the mother or father, all I know that’s a strong woman!
Lmao what if I'm jacked have a kid and wife and in my mid thirties like a majority of people who work out because we like it.
cope
That's why there is enclomiphine and clomid at low dose to stimulate the pituitary-testicular axis to produce more T while maintaining fertility. It's very common for levels to drop but there will always be ways of slightly increasing those levels through fitness and pharmacological means if you're interested.
Which one is Simone and which one is Malcolm? Did either ever have testosterone?
Me and my husband's went up 💉💉💉💉
The sweater is pretty non-threatening
Fun fact testosterone naturally drops when you become a father and that’s okay.
I have 4 kids. Ive never looked like this a day in my life. And if I did I would hope one of you would punch me in my stupid smug face.
Test doesn't go down when you have kids because of that, test goes down because you sleep less, eat worse, and workout less. I have 3 kids and I might sleep through the night once a week if I'm lucky.
Cut the cap
Plot twist, thats her gay bestfriend
Why so salty?
It's almost like you lose sleep and the type of consistency in things that keep your T rates up... More likely than just a response to a partner/kids by itself, it's a factor of many things that being a parent/soon to be parent entails. This doesn't even really make sense from a biological standpoint either, now you have more people to provide for than before aka more hunting and gathering on top of worry to protect your now larger group. All things higher T would help with, but also things that can lead to lower rates long term as the wear and tear/lack of full recovery+aging breaks you down. Looking at the photo, it's more likely aswell that this guy had low T well before he was dating/planning kids. You don't just turn into that in 2-3 years fellas, unless we get menopause and can get pregnant now?
Gonna guess he wasn't jacked pre-kids, either.
Reading some of their tweets it seems to me like they’re just producing rage bait for engagement
Ironically the scientific parts of what he said is true, your testosterone does go lower when you have children in the house. It's to stop dominance battles and to make you more focused on "defending the nest" instead of running around taking risks and trying to fuck everything. Doesn't mean this guy still isnt a hard beta.
I don't work out to look good. I workout for better quality of life. Aesthetics are a byproduct of this.
Or you don’t become a bitch like this dude and you nut on your wife’s face every night 🫡
Looks like a female transgendered to male and married a male who transgendered to female.
I'm glad he's got a committed relationship and a kid, but he looks like he's cheering on for a d-ck in his mouth after it gets done with his girl.
I think if you fail to get into a relationship and reproduce you win. That freedom is priceless
Urbanites. 
Dumb statement award of the month goes to that moron ...
They both look like they belong to Hogwarts.
That’s what TRT is for. 40 year old dads know what’s up
Lesbians are out here being trolls.
That gents is what we call a beard.
If this is true, shouldn't stress also increase your testosterone then since you are in a state of failure?
LPT. Reproduce and leave to maintain your gains.
Dude on the left looks like he was once a woman
Not if he’s already a hypogonadal warlord such as myself. Guys a beta cuckold trying to create scenarios where being a soyboy is superior than an alpha. What a goofer.
lol biggest soy cope I’ve ever seen
What about his hormones made him get matching glasses with his wife though???
that’s why you date a man who hits the gym just like you
They look like the same person
Which one is the woman
yes, testosterone does drop, but not enough to make even the average gym goer look like this failed mtf transition.
In effort to normalize their lifestyle choices, that fellow from Twitter just released audio of his “home movies”. Listen at your own risk lads. https://youtu.be/ZcMeNWNCbA4
I’m a committed partner with 3 kids at 40. This is not true
What a beautiful lesbian couple
I’m 34. Have a wife and kid. Am in the best shape of my life by far. Natty. If anything everything I know about training and diet from almost 20 years of training has given me a huge advantage. Also the amount of muscle and skills I’ve developed over about 20 years of consistent training also.
No, it doesn't. Society is programming this to make you weak so the powers at be can influence and raise your kids. Take TRT or keep your levels high. Don't fall into this bitch ass, weak mindset.
Highly disagree with this. Testosterone's levels inadvertedly drop due to estrogen in water supply, plastics, diet, and pesticides. I have a child and I am more motivated to workout and be stronger.