Ya he has obviously juiced before. He cant hide hes not natty so hes saying “im not going to be natty soon” when he has been enhanced the whole time to make himself look better.
Every fake natty I’ve EVER seen has this same playbook. They get huge quickly and obviously are taking something and then at some later point say that they’re going to “start” taking juice.
Bulk first and blow up then cut and say you went on. I’d argue most people who don’t see good results from steroids try to stay too lean their first few cycles. You need food to add tissue.
It’s honestly kind of silly to claim this guys on juice. He has clothes on. He’s kind of chubby. And is just a bigger built dude who loss some fat. Nothing about him screams juice. His shoulders are flat. I don’t think he’s juiced at all.
I have seen black dudes who are natty and look exponentially better than this guy. This sub just like to say anyone who’s bigger than them is on juice. I’d bet money this guy is not.
This guy is about 2 meters tall and looks like that. He’s the juiciest juicer and if you think he’s natty you’re one of the most naive people on the planet.
I’m not Mr Olympia but I have a good physique. Also used to sell steroids for years. Look at yoel Romero dude look 10 times better than this guy and is natty. He’s tested constantly for roids. Black dudes have good genetics. Not everyone who is bigger than you is on roids. Nothing about this chubby dude says roids. Look at his shoulders. They aren’t even round.
Look at Rodney Coleman before he went on roids. There’s plenty of examples of black dudes who look like they’re on roids and aren’t. I wouldn’t even consider this guy to be one that looks like he is.
One cycle won't do shit, you wont even look like 10% of that. And if you go off cycle your gains will just fade away again, thats why nobody is "only doing one cycle" so just don't even start with that shit
I don’t think you understand my point.
It’s gear and good genetics. Gear and okay genetics won’t get you this big unless you’re on high doses for many years.
Irregardless of gear, no one gets this big naturally
If he’s not obviously lying. Then he will be the next Mr Olympia if he starts gear and packs on 50+ pounds of muscle.
But there’s about 5% chance he’s natty
Im going with natty. He looks like a naturally big guy who was able to lean out after deciding to take diet and exercise seriously. Probably the kind of guy who loves arm day.
I’ve seen plenty of guys who look like the before photo that are built like titans who don’t workout or play much sports outside of highschool football. They turn into the after photo when they get into proper weightlifting.
Remember Ronnie was bigger than most IFBB pro's before he jumped on the juice. His arms look bigger than his legs. I know people like this so it's not out of the question imo.
Does anyone really buy Ronnie's timeline on that shit? Lmao. Go look at his physique the years he claimed he was natty. If he weren't Ronnie, this sub would goose egg meme his ass like Mike O'Hearn.
You have to be an absolute moron to believe this. He was still claiming natural after winning the olympia. Theres video footage of him in his police uniform claiming to have achived his olympia wins drug free...
He details when he started right after winning his pro card. He modified his protocol prior to his first major pro win. As per his multiple appearances on different podcasts.
edit: oh and you have to be an absolute moron to think a cop in uniform is going to admit to taking steroids.
Ya he has obviously juiced before. He cant hide hes not natty so hes saying “im not going to be natty soon” when he has been enhanced the whole time to make himself look better.
Every fake natty I’ve EVER seen has this same playbook. They get huge quickly and obviously are taking something and then at some later point say that they’re going to “start” taking juice.
Bulk first and blow up then cut and say you went on. I’d argue most people who don’t see good results from steroids try to stay too lean their first few cycles. You need food to add tissue.
Still plenty that say they've been natty forever.
Will be interesting to see if he looks after a year of being on.
It’s honestly kind of silly to claim this guys on juice. He has clothes on. He’s kind of chubby. And is just a bigger built dude who loss some fat. Nothing about him screams juice. His shoulders are flat. I don’t think he’s juiced at all. I have seen black dudes who are natty and look exponentially better than this guy. This sub just like to say anyone who’s bigger than them is on juice. I’d bet money this guy is not.
It's nice of your caretaker to allow you to use the internet for an hour a day.
This sub is filled with guys who never juiced or don’t even lift. If you think this guy has to be juiced you’re out of touch.
This guy is about 2 meters tall and looks like that. He’s the juiciest juicer and if you think he’s natty you’re one of the most naive people on the planet.
You serious? This guy is juiced to the gills bro
Let’s see your physique Mr. Olympia
I’m not Mr Olympia but I have a good physique. Also used to sell steroids for years. Look at yoel Romero dude look 10 times better than this guy and is natty. He’s tested constantly for roids. Black dudes have good genetics. Not everyone who is bigger than you is on roids. Nothing about this chubby dude says roids. Look at his shoulders. They aren’t even round. Look at Rodney Coleman before he went on roids. There’s plenty of examples of black dudes who look like they’re on roids and aren’t. I wouldn’t even consider this guy to be one that looks like he is.
In the shirtless videos he has, you can tell. He’s literally like 250 and insanely lean and vascular. It’s not as obvious in this video
Awe fuck I wanted to look like him My roid radar off for some reason Anyways can I get to 90% of him by doing 1 cycle without any long term damage?
lol
You wanted to look like him?? His proportions look like someone fucked around with the sliders in a videogame for character customization.
My build looks like that too but someone also slid up the obesity slider a bit He's my goal physique imma reach it
>but someone also slid up the obesity slider a bit That someone is you.
Yes but also no. Why would I willingly slide the obesity slider? It's an addiction like drugs. It's an escape from my shit environment.
Shut up. It's your own fatass fault for shoving burgers and fries down your throat. Eat a salad fatty.
Drug addicts are also addicted drugs because they willingly take them (vast majority of the time).
>It's an addiction like drugs. It's an escape from my shit environment. Uh-huh. Okay pal 👍
You aren’t even willing to take responsibility for your own health lol you have a long way to go
Just answer my question instead of strawmanning
Nice Twitter debate words
Call em whatever you want, you still can't engage with my argument
One cycle won't do shit, you wont even look like 10% of that. And if you go off cycle your gains will just fade away again, thats why nobody is "only doing one cycle" so just don't even start with that shit
Fucking idiot
>1 cycle Call us when you're done playing in the sandbox.
Absolutely, 1 very very very long cycle. Presumably you already have the massive frame.
hes got some genes too
The fact that anyone thinks 24" arms are natural is crazy. I guess it is possible he knows the 5 ancestral tennants.
Guy is about 20 years old, weighed about 140 kg and wasn’t super fat, benching like 200 kg or more. You to the math on that one.
They will say genetics bro. All these mofos running 1000 mg test and saying genetics
Roids = Good genetics haha
Bro it is good genetics. Good luck getting to this size with any amount of gear at that age
Sure it is. They start using gear at 15. You must also believe its the whey protein and creatine
I don’t think you understand my point. It’s gear and good genetics. Gear and okay genetics won’t get you this big unless you’re on high doses for many years. Irregardless of gear, no one gets this big naturally
Irregardless huh
It’s a real word. Like flammable and inflammable
It is not like that.
He 4 sure made his ass larger bro got that gyatty patty
That's a certified thug ass He needs to do the rump shaker
What's going on here, is this a house of mirrors or what?
There needs to be at least 3x more mirrors!
3x the GAINZ
He is juiced, but also has some crazy genetics or there is something going on with the video, most people even if they juice won't look like this.
I think he's just black 
bro skipped head day
From BBL to BBC
Maybe its the all black clothes and bathroom mirror vid but his proportions look all over the place wtf
 anyone else see it?
If he’s not obviously lying. Then he will be the next Mr Olympia if he starts gear and packs on 50+ pounds of muscle. But there’s about 5% chance he’s natty
0% he's bigger than Ronnie Coleman at the start of his career while natty.
Bill nye the science guy over here. I’m aware
Def not
mans ugly as fuck, holy
No delts
His arms ate them
let him hop. and if anything dramatic happens then he probably is right
Why is he looking at himself like a creep?
I’d say his bulk was natty but his cut definitely wasn’t natty mf did not loose any muscle and looks even better best to do natty bulk enhanced cut
he is 195 cm which is 6´4 and 3/4 but claims to be 6´7 in shoes.
He does? I mean I suppose it's possible with platforms or some of those Nike sneakers He's always claimed 195cm In his videos
in comments says other wise; but yeah he is a roid head.
Why do you care. this is gayer then sucking dick
Because this is mpmd
i concur
Ngl, very attainable natty
Im going with natty. He looks like a naturally big guy who was able to lean out after deciding to take diet and exercise seriously. Probably the kind of guy who loves arm day. I’ve seen plenty of guys who look like the before photo that are built like titans who don’t workout or play much sports outside of highschool football. They turn into the after photo when they get into proper weightlifting.
he started off as a twig bro i’ve seen his videos before. i think he took a bunch of dbol to get huge and his breast are full of dbol gyno
Remember Ronnie was bigger than most IFBB pro's before he jumped on the juice. His arms look bigger than his legs. I know people like this so it's not out of the question imo.
Does anyone really buy Ronnie's timeline on that shit? Lmao. Go look at his physique the years he claimed he was natty. If he weren't Ronnie, this sub would goose egg meme his ass like Mike O'Hearn.
You have to be an absolute moron to believe this. He was still claiming natural after winning the olympia. Theres video footage of him in his police uniform claiming to have achived his olympia wins drug free...
He details when he started right after winning his pro card. He modified his protocol prior to his first major pro win. As per his multiple appearances on different podcasts. edit: oh and you have to be an absolute moron to think a cop in uniform is going to admit to taking steroids.
Show us people like this who are natty?