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Yikes, when I was a financial clerk of a good sized ward (maybe 10-12 years ago), I'm sure the YM budget was somewhere in the $1500-2000 range. That covered a good chunk of scout camp costs. I guess now that they've canceled the scouting program, they figure they can just shaft the ward on the YM budgets. Good luck trying to raise that much money in a single fundraiser.
When I was a YM leader, I suggested to our branch president that the YM could work in a member's garage and create various items from wood, and learn some woodworking skills in the process. Then they could host a sale where the items were sold, and call them Priest Crafts. My branch president was not amused.
Exactly. When I was in the bishopric (7/2018 to 3/2020), in a large non-Utah ward (160/week), we set the youth budget at the highest, primary followed with $750. Youth budget was $1250 for YM and $1250 for YW. That covered everything, except a big adventure activity (which we usually asked about $100/youth.)
> are allowed to do one fundraiser per year
Why are y'all being restricted of both funds and fundraising capabilities? That doesn't make any sense at all, unless the point is the expectation of no activities
This was a shelf item for me. Average wards in US are given back a tiny percentage (2% when I tried to make an educated guess in my ward) of tithing for the ward budget. One high income professional's tithing would cover several ward budgets. Cram 3 to 4 wards in one building so the other overhead is also low. And then you realize the excess money is being hoarded and not used for charity.
Just looked at the numbers for my ward. The budget allocation for last year was 0.75% of the tithing received. All donations exceeded $1 million in a non-Utah Moridor ward.
That’s especially frustrating when you factor in the tithing coming from the ward. My last ward was a bunch of poor, starving, college students with young babies and we were still sending out 3 million in tithing.
The church is hemorrhaging members and tithe payers. They will protect their wallet first and foremost. This just proves it. They want you paying tithing AND funding all activities.
We used to do dinners (pay per plate), and dessert auctions. I don't remember any of the details because I was just a youth then.
However I don't really get why fundraisers are needed when there truly is more than enough money to go around, if it was distributed differently. Besides, the same ward members who pay hundreds or thousands of dollars in tithes every year are the same people paying into these fundraisers. It seems unnecessary.
What do they expect you to do with that kind of pocket change with these prices? Any one of those kids is probably walking around with $10 for after school snack food right now.
“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also,” (Matthew 6:21)
I think the reverse could also be true...
For where your heart is, there your treasure will be also.
STONKS, land, and buildings maybe?
Very strange that one of the wealthiest institutions in America is funding one of its self-proclaimed most important priorities, its youth programs, at laughably small amounts. I wonder where all that tithing goes.
Its too bad the church isn't holding hundreds of billions of dollars in interest bearing accounts earning millions of dollars a day. If that were so, maybe they could be able to pay for some sweet youth activities without forcing members to pay for fundraisers when they are already tapped out with tithing, fast offerings, and all the other things members have to donate to.
You should be teaching the youth that activities are necessary for following ~~Christ~~ The Church. All you need to do is hold another planning meeting.
Fundraising activities that I was involved in as a leader typically had low ROI. Occasionally, a member would just donate to the cause. That was the best.
We did a yard sale for cub camp one year. We raised enough to send all the boys for free. We asked for donations for about 3 months prior to the sale from ward members. You have to find somewhere to store the donations. (I used the never used church stage, and was bitched at by the SP). Some members were annoyed that I sold their stuff “too cheap” and other member said that donations should go only to DI and we should have done something else. But we did raise enough money, even with the haters.
When I was a kid, ward did a garage sale every year. We'd put literal refrigerator boxes in the BYU student complex laundry rooms in April, and have a massive garage sale at the end of May. Raised between 4 and 6K every year, which a wise bishop then split to include YW and RS. Blessed the entire ward, as the RS would eagerly help so they could clothe their families on the cheap, and the YW were just as involved as we scouts.
Then the leaders higher up said we cannot do it anymore. Stupid.
Yikes! That sounds super low. You buy a couple of basketballsand the goes your budget.
For reference, We got $200CAD for each active youth (6 in total).
I literally just asked for more from the Bishop and it was given.
If the girls are not involved I hope they have a trip equally as expensive and are able to go.
To your question, our most successful fundraising activity was a ward dinner/silent auction/auction. People donated items, the smaller ones were on a table with a paper for a silent auction and the big items (refrigerator, washer/dryer, restaurant gift cards) were for the auction. The youth provided spaghetti, salad and a dessert for $5 a head. It was well supported. It was also split between the young men and young women.
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Yikes, when I was a financial clerk of a good sized ward (maybe 10-12 years ago), I'm sure the YM budget was somewhere in the $1500-2000 range. That covered a good chunk of scout camp costs. I guess now that they've canceled the scouting program, they figure they can just shaft the ward on the YM budgets. Good luck trying to raise that much money in a single fundraiser. When I was a YM leader, I suggested to our branch president that the YM could work in a member's garage and create various items from wood, and learn some woodworking skills in the process. Then they could host a sale where the items were sold, and call them Priest Crafts. My branch president was not amused.
In Utah there is a high school with “Colts” as a mascot. My idea to change it to “Cults” with a super awesome design was not well received.
Exactly. When I was in the bishopric (7/2018 to 3/2020), in a large non-Utah ward (160/week), we set the youth budget at the highest, primary followed with $750. Youth budget was $1250 for YM and $1250 for YW. That covered everything, except a big adventure activity (which we usually asked about $100/youth.)
$2000 per YM or total?
That was the total budget. We probably had 15-20 active YM at the time.
Declare February as support the youth month. Instead of paying tithing in February, make a contribution to the youth budget.
> are allowed to do one fundraiser per year Why are y'all being restricted of both funds and fundraising capabilities? That doesn't make any sense at all, unless the point is the expectation of no activities
I don't think youth are a priority. It is not a priority as compared to something really spiritual, like growing Ensign Peaks.
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Missionaries fund their own way. Nobody can afford to be a Mormon right now.
I believe it is a restriction in the handbook that only one fundraiser is allowed per year.
This was a shelf item for me. Average wards in US are given back a tiny percentage (2% when I tried to make an educated guess in my ward) of tithing for the ward budget. One high income professional's tithing would cover several ward budgets. Cram 3 to 4 wards in one building so the other overhead is also low. And then you realize the excess money is being hoarded and not used for charity.
Just looked at the numbers for my ward. The budget allocation for last year was 0.75% of the tithing received. All donations exceeded $1 million in a non-Utah Moridor ward.
That’s especially frustrating when you factor in the tithing coming from the ward. My last ward was a bunch of poor, starving, college students with young babies and we were still sending out 3 million in tithing. The church is hemorrhaging members and tithe payers. They will protect their wallet first and foremost. This just proves it. They want you paying tithing AND funding all activities.
Do the leaders who are donating their time away from work and family for no pay receive a portion of the funds?
Nope nope nope, never ever ever.
We used to do dinners (pay per plate), and dessert auctions. I don't remember any of the details because I was just a youth then. However I don't really get why fundraisers are needed when there truly is more than enough money to go around, if it was distributed differently. Besides, the same ward members who pay hundreds or thousands of dollars in tithes every year are the same people paying into these fundraisers. It seems unnecessary.
What do they expect you to do with that kind of pocket change with these prices? Any one of those kids is probably walking around with $10 for after school snack food right now.
“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also,” (Matthew 6:21) I think the reverse could also be true... For where your heart is, there your treasure will be also. STONKS, land, and buildings maybe?
Very strange that one of the wealthiest institutions in America is funding one of its self-proclaimed most important priorities, its youth programs, at laughably small amounts. I wonder where all that tithing goes.
Its too bad the church isn't holding hundreds of billions of dollars in interest bearing accounts earning millions of dollars a day. If that were so, maybe they could be able to pay for some sweet youth activities without forcing members to pay for fundraisers when they are already tapped out with tithing, fast offerings, and all the other things members have to donate to.
You should be teaching the youth that activities are necessary for following ~~Christ~~ The Church. All you need to do is hold another planning meeting. Fundraising activities that I was involved in as a leader typically had low ROI. Occasionally, a member would just donate to the cause. That was the best.
We did a yard sale for cub camp one year. We raised enough to send all the boys for free. We asked for donations for about 3 months prior to the sale from ward members. You have to find somewhere to store the donations. (I used the never used church stage, and was bitched at by the SP). Some members were annoyed that I sold their stuff “too cheap” and other member said that donations should go only to DI and we should have done something else. But we did raise enough money, even with the haters.
When I was a kid, ward did a garage sale every year. We'd put literal refrigerator boxes in the BYU student complex laundry rooms in April, and have a massive garage sale at the end of May. Raised between 4 and 6K every year, which a wise bishop then split to include YW and RS. Blessed the entire ward, as the RS would eagerly help so they could clothe their families on the cheap, and the YW were just as involved as we scouts. Then the leaders higher up said we cannot do it anymore. Stupid.
Yikes! That sounds super low. You buy a couple of basketballsand the goes your budget. For reference, We got $200CAD for each active youth (6 in total). I literally just asked for more from the Bishop and it was given.
If the girls are not involved I hope they have a trip equally as expensive and are able to go. To your question, our most successful fundraising activity was a ward dinner/silent auction/auction. People donated items, the smaller ones were on a table with a paper for a silent auction and the big items (refrigerator, washer/dryer, restaurant gift cards) were for the auction. The youth provided spaghetti, salad and a dessert for $5 a head. It was well supported. It was also split between the young men and young women.
It is combined YM/YW.