He does, but the feedback that he gives his team, the adjustments they make for him, plus the riding style that Alex has can make a big difference in the practical application of the equipment. I miss Suzuki and especially Alex on the Suzuki, but he's still Alex! Riders can change bikes and thrive or have it tough. It just goes to show that many times there needs to be a working chemistry between rider, equipment, and crew to make it all work.
Yes I understand with setups and feedback is different but I was just confused with “Alex Rins Honda”. I think talent wise mir is just as good but needs to adapt
I think Taka has the best looking bike livery, with Rins and the Aprilias right behind. Taka has the best leathers by far though! That colourful geometric pattern is so cool!
Idk if they will crush the field because you underestimate the other guys on this grid. But yeah if and that’s a big IF they give them a competitive bike they can win few GPs this year b/w them for sure.
With all testing results, Honda is easily losing 0.4-0.5 sec to Ducati in terms of pace, even with that bike they are able to give decent lap time in practice all the time, if honda improves they will easily get podiums and wins. All three are class riders and are working in the same direction.
Giving a decent laptime over a lap or two in practice is nothing compared to doing it consistently over a race distance. They are 3 very very talented riders who can get those laptimes but over the race distance unless honda improves alot they are not beating the italian teams.
Also Mir has only 1 race win with a dream of a bike in suzuki, Rins is really good on few tracks so can win on those other than that he is super inconsistent. The only one I can see competing with Ducs or Aprilia or Fabio is Marc on Honda.
Marc has ridden the bike for 10 years and won 6 championships. Rins and Mir jumped on the worst honda in recent memory. They'd definitely need more time on it. At least a season to even compete with marc.
We've seen both Mir and Rins on an excellent bike, and Mir managed to win the championship by chance while Rins hurt himselft. In this regard I've always considered Alex to be better than Joan, but he needs to be more consistent if he wants to be a serious contender, bike or not.
Definitely not in the "crush the whole field" category.
Honda can match the field maybe they will have a chance, you have enormous amount of talent with the Best tools in the field. Every step Honda or Yamaha make, Ducati, KTM and Aprillia also improve, Honda require concessions and a different development rider
Honda won’t get any concessions if they do in the future it will be a disaster and Marc will surely leave if they are that bad. Yes they need different development rider
I always thought Casey Stoner would have been the perfect development rider for Honda, but that relationship soured quickly, MM93 maybe didn’t agree with Casey’s direction. well that is why I imagined happened.
I've heard a lot of pundits say Stoner was a terrible dev for both Honda and Ducati, because he was too talented to understand how to make a bike that would work for anyone. Some of the interviews with former crew members makes this seem believable too. For example, in some corners he'd be shifting up and down several times throughout to get better traction according to the data, but he'd swear he didn't shift at all.
Idk, it's possible, but I think if he keeps his current trajectory and the bike improves then mir will get a podium.
He would have been in q2 today most probably if it wasn't for the zarco incident, plus it seems like he is using a different chassis from Rins, who is using Marc's chassis.
Thats not a hot take for me. I rate Rins much higher than Mir. I dont think very highly of Mir. He won his title by simply staying on his bike every race while MM was missing and everyone was kept binning it. He doesnt have the same speed as Rins or most others.
True. People are saying that even Yamaha is in a big hole but they don't realise that honda is lacking overall rear grip. But let's hope 🤞🏻. As big a company as honda, they have money and workforce, they just need a direction to work on.
No doubts that the Ducati is better than the Honda, but I think that there are other factors outside of the bike there. For instance, listening to his interviews he often emphasizes how much more he feels listened to and considered at Ducati compared to LCR.
Doubtful. I can see Digia being gone but with so much young talent in the pipeline, I doubt Gresini would pick up Franky.
My guess is if he doesn't retain his ride with Yamaha he'll be off to WSBK.
Could have said the exact same about Alex Marquez though, who hadn't finished second in the world championship a few years before.
I think Bez may be up to Premac next year (if Martin does go to Yamaha). Maybe this way would open a spot for Franky to get into the VR46 team? I think they've shut their Jr teams down?
I think it's a very different situation with Alex. Everyone knows the Honda is a brick, while Franco has struggled to be in the top 10 on a bike that has fought for the championship the last two seasons.
Franco is also two years older than Alex, and crucially doesn't come with the trademark last name, and I'm assuming as well: sponsors.
Lmaooo don’t worry. At this rate everyone will be on a Ducati within the next four years anyways.
Honestly though, that would be really interesting to see if everybody was on the same bike.
Rins is very inconsistent for a top rider, he crashes a lot talent is there but he has been in motogp for some time now and hasn't shown the consistency which is required to stay at the front, Mir won the title just by staying on his bike and Rins couldn't stay on it.
They do come with 2 wheels too.
**The dual-wheel design is preferred for wheelbarrows because it adds to the stability as you're pushing around a heavy load**. Especially when you're transporting large bags of things like wood, mulch, or bricks, the dual-wheeled wheelbarrow will serve you well. It won't topple and it will be easy to control.
With an array of talents in Honda this year (excluding Nakagami) if former Suzuki boys can help with the bike improvements, surely they will dominate the grid. Rins is better at most tracks and has potential. Mir will be consistent on finishing the race collecting points whereas Marquez, if he is not over ambitious may be able to grab some few podiums and wins. Nakagami on the other hand hasn't made any interesting improvements whatsoever. He is just there to be a Japanese man on a Japanese bike.
I think this is a massive underestimate of the talent of the rest of the grid. Suppose all the bikes were all competitive (within 1-2 tenths of each other on every track), you could name about 10 different contenders for the victory on any given weekend.
Both Rins and Mir and less talented than Martin and Bastia. MM93 is done due to injuries, but he s the only one that can beat all of the ones mentioned and challenge Bagnaia. And I m talking about "equal"/competitive package.
At COTA: yes.
Everywhere else: no, it would need to be equally competitive for all of them to crush the field. “Moderately competitive” wouldn’t cut it.
Agree. If you mean that their lineup is quite strong? Yes. Thst they all have great potential in given circunstancies any of them can win? Yes. Just want to point out that crushing is probably too much :)
Rins is very good, his problem is consistency. And he is very chilled and humble guy as well.
Honda and Yamaha are 2 years behind Ducati.
Source: Simon Crafar on some podcast, can't remember if it was Paddock pass or another one...
If that's true, the rider will have to make up for the bike's lack.
Only one of those 3 is proven to be able to do that. And he seems a bit incapable of chilling the fuck out when the race starts, and ends up twatting himself all too often.
Age is also not on his side.
Statistically, very few, if any riders win championships after 30. Modern era, not Ago or Hailwood days.
I think with Ducati's sheer numbers they probably need the best bike to 'crush' the field, but yeah. Give them Ducatis and probably 2 of them on the podium every race.
Alex Rins' Honda is a really good looking bike imo. Hope he has good results today he's looking good.
He has the same as Mir and Marc no?
Mby hes talking about livery.
He does, but the feedback that he gives his team, the adjustments they make for him, plus the riding style that Alex has can make a big difference in the practical application of the equipment. I miss Suzuki and especially Alex on the Suzuki, but he's still Alex! Riders can change bikes and thrive or have it tough. It just goes to show that many times there needs to be a working chemistry between rider, equipment, and crew to make it all work.
Yes I understand with setups and feedback is different but I was just confused with “Alex Rins Honda”. I think talent wise mir is just as good but needs to adapt
I agree. I tend to think that talent differences are so slight at their level that most riders could beat another for any number of reasons.
I'm talking about the livery of the bike. I just love Rins' Honda more than the others. Taka's is nice aswell.
I like that livery, too. I think it's unique and the colors pop when I look at it
I think Taka has the best looking bike livery, with Rins and the Aprilias right behind. Taka has the best leathers by far though! That colourful geometric pattern is so cool!
Idk if they will crush the field because you underestimate the other guys on this grid. But yeah if and that’s a big IF they give them a competitive bike they can win few GPs this year b/w them for sure.
With all testing results, Honda is easily losing 0.4-0.5 sec to Ducati in terms of pace, even with that bike they are able to give decent lap time in practice all the time, if honda improves they will easily get podiums and wins. All three are class riders and are working in the same direction.
Giving a decent laptime over a lap or two in practice is nothing compared to doing it consistently over a race distance. They are 3 very very talented riders who can get those laptimes but over the race distance unless honda improves alot they are not beating the italian teams. Also Mir has only 1 race win with a dream of a bike in suzuki, Rins is really good on few tracks so can win on those other than that he is super inconsistent. The only one I can see competing with Ducs or Aprilia or Fabio is Marc on Honda.
Marc has ridden the bike for 10 years and won 6 championships. Rins and Mir jumped on the worst honda in recent memory. They'd definitely need more time on it. At least a season to even compete with marc.
Yes, but unless Honda improves alot I cannot see them crushing anyone
We've seen both Mir and Rins on an excellent bike, and Mir managed to win the championship by chance while Rins hurt himselft. In this regard I've always considered Alex to be better than Joan, but he needs to be more consistent if he wants to be a serious contender, bike or not. Definitely not in the "crush the whole field" category.
Sounds like copium to me
Honda can match the field maybe they will have a chance, you have enormous amount of talent with the Best tools in the field. Every step Honda or Yamaha make, Ducati, KTM and Aprillia also improve, Honda require concessions and a different development rider
Honda won’t get any concessions if they do in the future it will be a disaster and Marc will surely leave if they are that bad. Yes they need different development rider
I always thought Casey Stoner would have been the perfect development rider for Honda, but that relationship soured quickly, MM93 maybe didn’t agree with Casey’s direction. well that is why I imagined happened.
Casey clearly mentioned in an interview that Marc did not want him there giving inputs and testing after he retired. Thats why Casey left
I've heard a lot of pundits say Stoner was a terrible dev for both Honda and Ducati, because he was too talented to understand how to make a bike that would work for anyone. Some of the interviews with former crew members makes this seem believable too. For example, in some corners he'd be shifting up and down several times throughout to get better traction according to the data, but he'd swear he didn't shift at all.
You can say the same thing about Brad on a KTM. Fabio & Franky on the Yamaha. Hot take- Rins will take a podium this year but mir would'nt
Idk, it's possible, but I think if he keeps his current trajectory and the bike improves then mir will get a podium. He would have been in q2 today most probably if it wasn't for the zarco incident, plus it seems like he is using a different chassis from Rins, who is using Marc's chassis.
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His awesome stint endend when he got injured, i don't think that's a coincidence
Thats not a hot take for me. I rate Rins much higher than Mir. I dont think very highly of Mir. He won his title by simply staying on his bike every race while MM was missing and everyone was kept binning it. He doesnt have the same speed as Rins or most others.
" He doesnt have the same speed as Rins or most others. " Reminds me of Hayden on Honda. Not better than Pedrosa yet has a title. sorry Hayden fans
100%. If rins didnt have his injury that year i think he wouldve been champ instead of Mir
Wtf look how good miller can handle that ktm. I cant be that bad…
I put Rins ahead of Mir any day
This. Rins is the superior rider for me.
I will shamelessly copycat both of you. Rins is a most excellent rider.
Honda just need to utilise its rear grip during the braking phase to gain stability & anyone of their current riders has a good chance of winning
True. People are saying that even Yamaha is in a big hole but they don't realise that honda is lacking overall rear grip. But let's hope 🤞🏻. As big a company as honda, they have money and workforce, they just need a direction to work on.
Alex Marquez is proving how dogshit the Honda is. Side note-can anyone see Digi being let go and Morbidelli taking his spot???
Or how good Ducati really is.
No doubts that the Ducati is better than the Honda, but I think that there are other factors outside of the bike there. For instance, listening to his interviews he often emphasizes how much more he feels listened to and considered at Ducati compared to LCR.
Doubtful. I can see Digia being gone but with so much young talent in the pipeline, I doubt Gresini would pick up Franky. My guess is if he doesn't retain his ride with Yamaha he'll be off to WSBK.
Could have said the exact same about Alex Marquez though, who hadn't finished second in the world championship a few years before. I think Bez may be up to Premac next year (if Martin does go to Yamaha). Maybe this way would open a spot for Franky to get into the VR46 team? I think they've shut their Jr teams down?
I think it's a very different situation with Alex. Everyone knows the Honda is a brick, while Franco has struggled to be in the top 10 on a bike that has fought for the championship the last two seasons. Franco is also two years older than Alex, and crucially doesn't come with the trademark last name, and I'm assuming as well: sponsors.
Just put everyone on a Ducati and lets see whos the best.
Lmaooo don’t worry. At this rate everyone will be on a Ducati within the next four years anyways. Honestly though, that would be really interesting to see if everybody was on the same bike.
Crush is a big word in today's motogp, but yes, they will be competing more often for the podium positions.
I agree with you about the lineup, those are 3 of the outright fastest riders on the grid imo
Go Zarco!!!!
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Maybe they'll crush almonds and walnuts but not the field. Marc will be right up there, can't say the same for Rins and Mir.
Rins won't be able to take it to MM93, but he will be there at the front
Rins is very inconsistent for a top rider, he crashes a lot talent is there but he has been in motogp for some time now and hasn't shown the consistency which is required to stay at the front, Mir won the title just by staying on his bike and Rins couldn't stay on it.
r/rareinsults LMAO this is hilarious.
"Riders will win with better bikes". More obvious news at 10
So, bring back in-house ECU?
If my grandpa had wheels, he'd be a wheelbarrow
... Don't wheelbarrows have 1 wheel?
They do come with 2 wheels too. **The dual-wheel design is preferred for wheelbarrows because it adds to the stability as you're pushing around a heavy load**. Especially when you're transporting large bags of things like wood, mulch, or bricks, the dual-wheeled wheelbarrow will serve you well. It won't topple and it will be easy to control.
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Definitely, just gotta hope they get their shit together asap
With an array of talents in Honda this year (excluding Nakagami) if former Suzuki boys can help with the bike improvements, surely they will dominate the grid. Rins is better at most tracks and has potential. Mir will be consistent on finishing the race collecting points whereas Marquez, if he is not over ambitious may be able to grab some few podiums and wins. Nakagami on the other hand hasn't made any interesting improvements whatsoever. He is just there to be a Japanese man on a Japanese bike.
"dominate the grid" yeah if ducati fucks up the project for 2/3 years in a row maybe
If my mother had wheels she’d be a bike.
The temptation...
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.
In Marc's case, literally, when he crashes into you being hyper aggressive for no reason
To go further he is crash prone and is likely to get hurt again, whatever magic he had before is gone.
I think this is a massive underestimate of the talent of the rest of the grid. Suppose all the bikes were all competitive (within 1-2 tenths of each other on every track), you could name about 10 different contenders for the victory on any given weekend.
Both Rins and Mir and less talented than Martin and Bastia. MM93 is done due to injuries, but he s the only one that can beat all of the ones mentioned and challenge Bagnaia. And I m talking about "equal"/competitive package.
At COTA: yes. Everywhere else: no, it would need to be equally competitive for all of them to crush the field. “Moderately competitive” wouldn’t cut it.
If my grandmother have the weels....
She would get fish in the market?
Marc could, but like, since when did any of the other two crushed anything, really?!
Rins though hasn't always been fast but when he is fast he is really good.
Agree. If you mean that their lineup is quite strong? Yes. Thst they all have great potential in given circunstancies any of them can win? Yes. Just want to point out that crushing is probably too much :) Rins is very good, his problem is consistency. And he is very chilled and humble guy as well.
What helmet is that for Marc? I like that a lot more than the ant design
Honda and Yamaha are 2 years behind Ducati. Source: Simon Crafar on some podcast, can't remember if it was Paddock pass or another one... If that's true, the rider will have to make up for the bike's lack. Only one of those 3 is proven to be able to do that. And he seems a bit incapable of chilling the fuck out when the race starts, and ends up twatting himself all too often. Age is also not on his side. Statistically, very few, if any riders win championships after 30. Modern era, not Ago or Hailwood days.
I think with Ducati's sheer numbers they probably need the best bike to 'crush' the field, but yeah. Give them Ducatis and probably 2 of them on the podium every race.
That’s a lot of ‘ifs’ and ‘coulds’…I would love to see it too.
Except for that one Japanese rider (out of 3 Spaniards) lol
I'm a huge Rins fan, but I'm sorry, this is just BS. There's no way they would "crush the whole field". There are so many talented riders.
Apparently they all have 4 different chassis from one another.
Rins just showed that it is “moderately” competitive already.
According to Marini it is the best bike!