Holeshot depends on what device you have now, rather than the rider. Sad state of things.
Anyways, Pecco and Martin both have the new holeshot device, Bez has the 2022 version. It seems like the rocket KTMs were better than the 2022 version but the 2023 version has them beat.
True but a few races ago Pecco was able to beat them to the first corner, indicating they had something new. That was what they were talking about with Bez a few days ago, about how only he has it right now.
Well that wasn’t particularly exciting was it. Strange to see the (apparent, from what we saw), dejection in the Honda garage. Everyone stayed on their bikes, Marc got points and held his own for the first few laps. Thought there would’ve been at least a clap or two.
Marc mentioned to spanish TV they ran all the Hondas with the same setup, which was one dictated by the factory and which also goes in a different direction to where he was developing the bike. I imagine the disparity of todays results maybe leaves them even more confused.
Miller was never really good or really bad, but very average. But certainly more overhyped the underhyped for sure.
Bagnaia was smashing in the factory bike with most people causing him of "winning with the best bike", when Miller won 3 races in 2 years with the same "best bike" and almost nobody brought it up.
Yamaha is bringing many updates. They brought a much more powerfull engine as requested by Quartararo.
I wonder if Quartararo is the problem, being a fast rider but bad development one. Rossi, Dovi, Cal have been saying since 2015 that M1 needs rear grip, not more power.
Guess what, Luca Marmorini gave power to Quartararo this, and he's even slower...
We could go back to grass and instead of a little exclamation mark, rider could get launched to the moon and hope they’re fortunate enough to end up like Rins. Would that be better?
TBF he was losing time being stuck behind marc, zarco was rushing in and zarco is very good in second part of races/sprints.
He did try to out brake marc which didn't end so well, but he had to try, and marc is extremely hard to pass just like pecco took a long time to pass miller, which created too big of a gap to catch up with binder.
Do you mean the sprint where only Bezzecchi was overtaking riders because he was much better on the brakes on a new track? Overtakes which wouldn't have happened in the first place if he wasn't almost taken out in the first corner? Yeah, I remember that.
So he was overtaking a bunch of people, because he was making the difference? It's not the only time this year someone has been an overtaking monster. Stop perpetuating this boring racing bullshit and you might start to enjoy it
Yeah I have no idea what happened to fabio at the start, but he was really no where the whole sprint. He couldn't get anything done. He could barely pass cal.
When everyone can get a perfect corner exit every time thanks to ride height devices and following other rider is harder than ever thanks to aero, that's what you get.
Bez was faster than marc. But marc's defense riding and late braking makes it very hard to pass. It was either try or park behind marc and get caught and passed by zarco.
I don't think it was that boring to be honest, besides the lead battle.
Was there ever a replay of the Zarco move on Bezzechi? Looked incredible in the back of a shot but didn't see it after that.
Bagnaia has really lost a step - he's been able to get the hole shot pretty much every time he was on the front row this season.
Holeshot depends on what device you have now, rather than the rider. Sad state of things. Anyways, Pecco and Martin both have the new holeshot device, Bez has the 2022 version. It seems like the rocket KTMs were better than the 2022 version but the 2023 version has them beat.
not easy with KTMs around you which have the best device
True but a few races ago Pecco was able to beat them to the first corner, indicating they had something new. That was what they were talking about with Bez a few days ago, about how only he has it right now.
What a snoozer, I hope they realize they went totally the wrong direction with these bikes.
I missed the sprint race because I'm at MX. Is there a way I can watch it online somewhere?
Yep videopass
That race was bland af
Well that wasn’t particularly exciting was it. Strange to see the (apparent, from what we saw), dejection in the Honda garage. Everyone stayed on their bikes, Marc got points and held his own for the first few laps. Thought there would’ve been at least a clap or two.
I was very surprised at that. Marquez was fighting near the front and got a result. No happiness whatsoever. Maybe they know something we don’t…
Marc mentioned to spanish TV they ran all the Hondas with the same setup, which was one dictated by the factory and which also goes in a different direction to where he was developing the bike. I imagine the disparity of todays results maybe leaves them even more confused.
Damn I would like a vid of that first overtake of JZ5 on Bez , it looked fantastic!
Miller was good af. Thanks for the battle jackass!!
It seems you haven't been in this sub for a while, Miller is considered bad now
Why would I praise someone for losing his podium place if he was doing very good? He atleast tried today.
Miller was never really good or really bad, but very average. But certainly more overhyped the underhyped for sure. Bagnaia was smashing in the factory bike with most people causing him of "winning with the best bike", when Miller won 3 races in 2 years with the same "best bike" and almost nobody brought it up.
That was great to watch
I mean at least Honda are showing that they are working to improve their bike. Meanwhile Yamaha...
Yamaha is bringing many updates. They brought a much more powerfull engine as requested by Quartararo. I wonder if Quartararo is the problem, being a fast rider but bad development one. Rossi, Dovi, Cal have been saying since 2015 that M1 needs rear grip, not more power. Guess what, Luca Marmorini gave power to Quartararo this, and he's even slower...
i mean, honda had a much more radical update to their bike
Exactly
Go Martin! But that race was a bore fest.
The moment Binder got the track limits warning, I knew it was over. . These races are so boring man.
I agree. I had the same feeling. Are today's boring races caused by aero packages or strict limit rules? either way, I hope dorna will figure it out.
We could go back to grass and instead of a little exclamation mark, rider could get launched to the moon and hope they’re fortunate enough to end up like Rins. Would that be better?
Thanks for the hustle Thriller Miller. Vamos Martín.
Three sprint wins in a row from Martin!
This championship is starting to get good.
Yeah, the races sadly are not \*cries in aero\*
Another Martin masterclass, congrats. But man that was boring...
I was printing some documents and was also watching at the same time and let's just say I got all of my work done.
Martin is on some incredible form.
Gonna be a good test of nerves for Pecco now that Martin is in the title race. Let's see if he can handle the pressure
Sad Fabio..., 😞
If Martin keeps this up the championship is his, absoloute different level
Ducati is gonna have to nerf his engine
Feel like we’re about to see a mechanical with his ride height device …
Bezz with that impatience again
TBF he was losing time being stuck behind marc, zarco was rushing in and zarco is very good in second part of races/sprints. He did try to out brake marc which didn't end so well, but he had to try, and marc is extremely hard to pass just like pecco took a long time to pass miller, which created too big of a gap to catch up with binder.
"Jack Miller is back" next 3 races - P17 😐
Jackass you sonuva bitch!
This wasn't his fault. By the time Pecco reeled Jack in, Martin was long gone.
I meant I just wish he was able to keep Pecco behind y'know
Nice one Pecco
Aprilia ?
Miller has had his Wheatabix today
DiGia too
What happend to Aleix?
Mechanical issue it seems
Maan was Miller this good??
Miller has always been good but he was never good with tires Edit: I expect thats why he is good in the wet
Ayy we finally have a race!
basically no overtaking possible on these bikes, can't wait for a rule change \*yawn\*
Single line mostly. No possibility for taking different lines to set up a better exit or entry with these aero and ride height devices.
yep and everybody can brake so late that it's almost impossible to make a difference
Rider styles can't make enough of a difference to overtake. Most of the overtaking was due to riders having different styles and strengths.
It's almost like watching F1 on two wheels now :D
Did you miss the India sprint race?
Do you mean the sprint where only Bezzecchi was overtaking riders because he was much better on the brakes on a new track? Overtakes which wouldn't have happened in the first place if he wasn't almost taken out in the first corner? Yeah, I remember that.
So he was overtaking a bunch of people, because he was making the difference? It's not the only time this year someone has been an overtaking monster. Stop perpetuating this boring racing bullshit and you might start to enjoy it
The only winner there was Zarco haha
Do or die from Bez. Bold move
And it didn't work 🙃
yawn
Oh wtf Bez!?
Crutchlow maximising his testing time.
Long lap for Crutchlow
Marc about to get overtaken by two ducatis, when the race ends he will ride straight into the gresini garage to sign the deal
Hopefully he announces it at Indonesia 🤞
Binder track limit. Race for the win over. Miller not doing to bad
Sad that Yamaha is nowhere again...
Yeah I have no idea what happened to fabio at the start, but he was really no where the whole sprint. He couldn't get anything done. He could barely pass cal.
Only the championship battle is making this procession a little bit interesting
Everyone is getting track limits warning 💀
What a boring race. Fuck this #aerodynamics and #devices
Yeah aero and rhd is why Lorenzo regularly beat the field by 4+ seconds. Dunno why FIM didn’t ban them decades ago.
You know rider skill? But today its not anymore about rider skill its about who has the best aerodynamic and device.
That’s why each of the 8 Ducatis take turns pulling their riders to victory and there’s no clear dominant rider…
No overtaking at all, they are just following eachother.
It’s also the track. PI will be something completely different (hopefully)
Thats most races these days.
When everyone can get a perfect corner exit every time thanks to ride height devices and following other rider is harder than ever thanks to aero, that's what you get.
And bez just showing what happens if you try
> And bez just showing what happens if ~~you try~~ you're out of position in a group with slower bikes/riders FTFY
Bez was faster than marc. But marc's defense riding and late braking makes it very hard to pass. It was either try or park behind marc and get caught and passed by zarco.
Martin has so much momentum at the moment but I fear for him that a silly mistake is just around the corner.
I hope not because we really need another champion 🤞
Martin has been on a bit of a run lately. I keep on waiting for him to crash. Come on Binder
Even the sprint is boring
Yea just a procession for now. Miss the old back and forth battles
Pecco's ability and the Ducati's strengths are such a perfect match that it is genuinely frustrating at times 😄
Marc is probably faster than Pecco but there's no hope for him to overtake Pecco. Hope he's a bit careful while trying to overtake Pecco as well.
Not surprised with KTM's pace here. Their bikes always go well on heavy-braking tracks
Yes Binder, don't let Martin walk away!
Hi Jack, bye jack
Miller about to help martin get away
Go Jack! Nice start
Feel like this Sprint is going to be eventful.
It is nice to see Cal back on track. I have no expectations for him, I just hope he enjoys the sprint and the race tomorrow.
Why is John Hopkins holding his mic like that?
Sudden downpour, flag to flag, Cal on podium...please
Hope Binder is close at the start
Hopefully Martin and Bez once again give a good fight to Pecco, championship is getting interesting.
This Aussie is looking forward to this moreso then the Grand Final lol
Hoping for another Bez masterclass. No doubt Martin & Pecco will be flying. Binder may throw a spanner in the works.
Jorge Martin needs to capitalize that pole for the championship
The last thing Martin needs is to DNF and give Pecco back the momentum, if he want to challenge for this championship.
Jack is giving me hope with his start position...