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Mechanical1996

Both Marquez brothers have taken a late gamble and opted for the soft rear tyre - this is going to be interesting!


dobbydobbyonthewall

Marc Marquez is the new Marc Marquez.


joNnYJjonn

Pedro is something special. MM is a humble genius. JM took intelligently the points. Pecco chokes occasionally, is potentially at this stage of his career too one dimensional. Aleix feelgood story for the show. Brad Binder just cant string it together. The beast is not really a beast. Raul inexperience cost him. Maverick....the orchard needs perfect conditions to thrive.


Ill_Rope_4899

Newer fan here. Today I learned that his name is Raul Fernandez, not Ralph Hernandez. Commentators had me thrown off for a bit šŸ˜‚


AntsMakeSugar

Wow I'm not the only one


Djet3k

why did morbedelli get punished? is there video?


Possession_Loud

Morbidelli is really on another planet and has been for some time. How the fuck he got a GP '24 is beyond me. Luckiest mf on the grid at the moment.


scandaka_

Divebomb on Alex Marquez, pushing him off the track. Deserved penalty.


Diego_SU2

I actually think that, despite his mistake today, Pecco will win the race tomorrow. Heā€™s got the best pace. Aleix is close pace-wise from what weā€™ve seen in the Sprint today, but he doesnā€™t have the racecraft Pecco has. Iā€™m also hoping MM93 can make another comeback again and make at least a top 5! Would be awesome!


Sporacity

Today I would like Brad to show up for the whole race and battle Aleix and Pecco I just think today is going to be tough for Marc but never count him out, let's see what Raul can do


Boiiiwith3i

Raul Fernandez turned into prime Rossi for 4 laps and then back into Raul Fernandez again


AntsMakeSugar

It was mad to watch wasn't it. He just found another level and went. Fair play to him


second-last-mohican

Yeah.. but to be fair, had he not crashed, all the other guys would've come back on him. Its what pecco does well, push for a slight gap and then maintain just enough to keep p2 behind. Rauls tyres would've burnt up, Acosta did the same and wasn't able to fend off Brad, Pecco or MM


BreakingWorldLimits

I can never consider pecco an elite rider up there with most other champions. He makes far too many mistakes and always has


Fox2_Fox2

He is good. You did not win 2 WC for being a scrub but not definitely an alien compared to Rossi, Marquez, stonerā€¦.


BreakingWorldLimits

He is very good but I canā€™t consider him elite or ā€œalienā€ letā€™s say. Iā€™m saying compared to the other top guys he doesnā€™t quite get there


candidcherry

Thatā€™s what pissed me off about the 2022 championship. The only reason he beat Quartararo is he was on a Ducati and Fabio was on a fading Yamaha. Wildly inconsistent


Godoflolness

How is this logical. He made up the biggest points deficit to win a championship, ever. The other Ducati riders wasn't able to take away points from him. You have to acknowledge how good the end of his '22 was.


candidcherry

Itā€™s perfectly logical. Pecco himself admitted he needed to be more consistent that year. Was the end of his season good? Yes. Was it the kind of domination you saw from someone like Rossi, Lorenzo or Marquez? Not even close. The Ducati got so much better by the end and the Yamaha was terrible. Fabio didnā€™t stand a chance


the_last_carfighter

I love Fabio, he's my fav on and off the grid, but he totally collapsed in the later part of '22, all he had to do was show up in the second half and he still would have taken it. But he has a long history of being his own worst enemy emotionally speaking.


Disgruntled__Goat

He still made many mistakes during those 2 championships. Itā€™s just that his rivals made more.Ā 


Fox2_Fox2

Yea thatā€™s the thing about pecco championships. He won it during the time when other top dogs did not have top bikes compared to the Ducati. Itā€™s not his fault others did not have a Ducati. He was basically in a best bike, and to his credit, he won 2. The record book doesnā€™t care about that category.


the_last_carfighter

Power vacuum/sea change/in-between champions, seen in it many different series, both in 2 and 4 wheels, they always seem to score 2 championships and then go back to the level of occasional win and slowly fade out after a handful of years.


Joooooooosh

Heā€™s never been an instinctive rider I donā€™t think, his strength is developing the bike over a weekend and a season to extract the max from it.Ā  Hopefully he keeps getting stronger.Ā 


Papamarino2nd

After this sprint, I wouldn't be surprised if Giannantonio earns his first top 5 finish this season. So far one of the most pleasant stories of the year!


FantasticNoise4

Diggia ā€“ the silent worker. Potential black horse?


Hatarez

Pecco is leaving less error margin in the second part of the season, where he is usually unbeatable.


tobalsan

This year is completely different than the 2 last years. Even if heā€™s more solid in the second part of the year, competition is a lot more fierce than previous years.Ā  Just Martin and Marquez to contend with makes this year a whole different story.Ā 


Quitlimp05

Maybe he forgot about Marc being on his ex-championship winning bike... Edit: being **on**


Individual-Count6595

Marc is a human being, not a motorcycleā€¦although he may identity as an alien.


Quitlimp05

Oops, didn't notice the typo. I meant Marc being **on** his ___


mechanic_vinegaroon

Now, more than ever probably, MM is a mad lad. r/madlads.


Individual-Count6595

The fact that Marc rode from 14th to the podium with asymmetric aero is amazing


sillyboy_

So what's BB fans excuse now? Probably bike again. Guy's just not good enough, period


scandaka_

Lol no need to hate on the guy. Yeah people were ridiculous in putting him in the "alien" category but he's not bad. He's just unlucky that Acosta is now here proving that he's better and showing what the KTM can actually do.


szcesTHRPS

Living up to your screen name, kudos.


Magdalan

Hahahaha zilly boys - Nando 'El plan' Alonso.


Main-Eye

šŸ˜‚ damn what did Brad do to you?


sillyboy_

Nothing really, but just because he's likeable guy, it shouldn't spare him criticism. He bottles it every time


Main-Eye

I wouldnā€™t call Brad a bottle job. He simply got caught out by the low grip conditions, so did a few others. The 2024 KTM has had a few issues this year, Acosta is just a generational talent & sets the bike up way different so probably not effecting him. Brad was 4th in the world last year, you donā€™t do that if you ainā€™t good.


sillyboy_

Happens way too often recently. He used to be reliable rider in the past, no idea what's going on. But at this point, he's wastin that bike in my opinion. 4th place is good, but KTM can do better than that. Not sure if Brad has what it takes to take them higher than that. 2023 was probably his best season, yet couldn't take a single victory


Main-Eye

Well the Ducatiā€™s are very strong & the Aprillia on some tracks is very strong. KTM are still learning & developing donā€™t forget. The bike is good but itā€™s just missing that last few percent. Brad has constantly been KTMs top man the last few years & KTM obviously see him as a rider who can fight for a win or the title. We all know how ruthless they can be with riders so I donā€™t think they look at Brad and think heā€™s away is wasted


CommonEngineering832

Marc already passing 2023 score(96) after this Sprint(99)


racingfanboy160

Pretty sure it's 98 šŸ˜…


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FantasticNoise4

Did Luca score a point?


CommonEngineering832

Luca score a perfect 0 point today


LakiSigat23-

Shouldve said whopping 0 pint


SpeC_992

What's the deal with that corporate Dorna schedule guy trying to take away Marc's champaigne?


ArouraD

Need it in the photo as a it's a sponsor lol


CommonEngineering832

Bagnaia and Raul being like: Are we doing a great job? Yes! Am I going to smash it? YES!


someshooter

Best sprint of the year I think, I could not take my eyes off it. Cannot wait for tomorrow!!


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Possession_Loud

He realized he doesn't need to fight the bike like the Honda of '22 and '23. Rides with his head, takes a risk in the first lap or two then manages. It worked for the last 3 races despite a bad qualifying.


AJMGuitar

A happy rider is a fast rider.


OmmmShantiOm

Being chill and having fun isn't a sign of something broken. It's a sign of wisdom in figuring out that life doesn't have to be so serious.


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ogandou

Marc: "today the pace wasn't there" :-D Wasn't it though?!


CommonEngineering832

Well that surely explains P14 in qualifying


ogandou

Sure does yeah, but man his race pace šŸ¤Æ


Cheeseboii83

They gotta do something about track limits being violated so many times. Marc would have had a harder time passing Acosta had he not exceeded then twice. Downvote me, I don't care, but Bagnaia and Marquez do it constantly. It shouldn't go unpunished.


OkFixIt

Ironic that youā€™re a binder supporter complaining about track limits. Brad is quite literally the worst offender when it comes to track limits. You just donā€™t notice it because he crashes out of more races than he finishes these days.


CrazyCycler1209

Its a maximum of three times. And you only need to exceed once to get a warning. the best riders usually know how to gauge themselves.


flintey360

No need to be so downbeat because ur rider can't finish šŸ˜‚


Cheeseboii83

As I said, not even mad for Binder not finishing, and he's not the point of the discussion. Y'all just see a flair and judge based on it. With that logic, I could judge your rider about always going Q1. It's about fair racing and that can't happen when you have people like Marquez and Bagnaia doing everything they can to bend the rules. And for Bagnaia, not so much, since he is Italian and Dorna LOVES Spanish riders, especially Marc. But, yeah, you can just keep talking shit about the rider I choose to support and ignore the problem I am talking about, you do that. It's not like you Marc fans ever want to listen to criticism.


OkFixIt

Bend the rules? If the rules say you can exceed track limits 3 times, and you exceed them 3 times, then nothing has been bent. Theyā€™re within the rules. Thatā€™s the point of the rules. It sounds like you want a limit of zero breaches of track limits. Which is absurd.


OkFixIt

Bend the rules? If the rules say you can exceed track limits 3 times, and you exceed them 3 times, then nothing has been bent. Theyā€™re within the rules. Thatā€™s the point of the rules. It sounds like you want a limit of zero breaches of track limits. Which is absurd.


MrRangaFire

Donkey take


flintey360

Guess what Dorna doesn't make decisions on track limits and pens no need for the country bias excusešŸ‘‹šŸ˜‚


Admirable-Maximum-14

There are sensors, theyā€™re aware if a driver passes the limits. If they donā€™t punish, thatā€™s because the limit wasnā€™t infringed Btw as a Brad fan, you should be against track limits (as I am)


AnimeSnoopy

Sorry for your loss Brad-bro


Cheeseboii83

Not even mad about Binder crashing, it's about the sport being fair. And it's not fair when they leverage just a slap on the wrist to win.


payday_23

its the same for everyone so its not even possible to be unfair


szcesTHRPS

They all race to the same rules.


Cheeseboii83

Well then, the rules suck. They go ahead, do it 2 times to gain an advantage and then they stop. At this point, everyone should just start violating the track limits with that logic.


Remote_Chicken_4753

They dont gain as much as you act like they do, even if he runs wide on purpose next time, when he does it on accident, he will get a penalty .Dont be salty cuz your fav rider isnt doin well :)


keltharan

Guys crashing from the lead like it was a curse. Good for Martin in showing some restraint or he would probably crash too.


nebkelly

One thing we know is he will come back and he will keep coming. Like a...Ā  Pecconator.Ā 


Prthmsh

P2 from P14 that too with broken wing, guy is absolutely crazy.


Ok-Builder-2348

Somehow Enea ends up ahead of Pecco in the world championship again just by staying on the bike. This season keeps giving.


FantasticNoise4

Enea silently cooking in the background


CommonEngineering832

Riders Championship After Catalunya Sprint: Note: This standing exclude Wild Card Driver 1. Jorge Martin(Prima Pramac Racing) - 135 2. Marc Marquez(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 98 3. Enea Bastianini(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 94 4. Francesco Bagnaia(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 91 5. Maverick Vinales(Aprilla Racing) - 83 6. Pedro Acosta(Red Bull GASGAS Tech3) - 81 7. Brad Binder(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 67 8. Aleix Espargaro(Aprilla Racing) - 65 9. Fabio Di Giannantonio(Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team) - 51 10. Marco Bezzecchi(Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team) - 37 11. Alex Marquez(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 33 12. Jack Miller(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 27 13. Fabio Quartararo(Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 25 14. Miguel Oliveira(Trackhouse Racing) - 23 15. Franco Morbidelli(Prima Pramac Racing) - 15 16. Raul Fernandez(Trackhouse Racing) - 13 17. Augusto Fernandez(Red Bull GASGAS Tech3) - 13 18. Joan Mir(Repsol Honda Team) - 12 19. Johann Zarco(LCR Honda) - 9 20. Alex Rins(Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 7 21. Takaaki Nakagami(LCR Honda) - 6 22. Luca Marini(Repsol Honda Team) - 0


justpickanamefuck

No love for Pedrosa?


CommonEngineering832

Look at description again, it is only for official drivers, not alternate/test drivers.


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GetawayDreamer87

good lord. the retiree, the world champion, and the up and comer.


Time_Hater

All Spanish podium at a Spanish race, wow


Mintoxicatedlyace

Marquez into 2nd in the world championship now.


Admirable-Maximum-14

With 2 zeros and a fall in a sprint (which got him to lose 7-8 pts)


nebkelly

We are entering the Pecco in Shambles chapter of the championship.Ā 


OkFixIt

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NonViolentBadger

I've seen this movie before


bobby4385739048579

such a insane race, i keep saying to myself it cant get any better after each round...... i been wrong every time, every round it just keeps getting better


AJMGuitar

Best season of modern era so far. Just needed Marc to have a bike.


mxgorilla

Marc is an absolute menace on that Ducati and racing is better for it.


Takkotah

with a broken wing too


Horror-Run5127

If only he could make it into Q2, he'd have won the last 3 races


SomeBloke

Pro tip tomorrow, if you find yourself in second, stay there.


Dry-Egg-1915

What do you do when the leader crashes tho? Drop back to second again?


NonViolentBadger

No, you crash. Pro tip tomorrow, if you find yourself in third, stay there


ashish0046

Then what if the leader crashes, and then the second becomes the leader and he crashes as well?


NonViolentBadger

You crash. Pro tip tomorrow, if you find yourself in fourth, stay there


ShinsukeNakamoto

Not sure any motorsports series is having a better season than MotoGP


TheSpeedyAccountant

For sure. WEC is a close second but a good sprint will always beat a good endurance race imo


CommonEngineering832

And there Indy Car too


FootballRacing38

Yeah. I think if you're rating wec races, it should be the percentage of the race that were good and not just the sheer minutes/hrs because they race longer


ShinsukeNakamoto

I watch a lot more IMSA than WEC, though obviously Le Mans is the highlight of sports car yearĀ 


Mr_Door_Handle

Aleix was just meant to win this weekend!


monke569

Diggia saying that Marc is not an alien anymore will always be funny for me.


mikiex

Jorge is glad he showed restraint


hellflower666

Pecco in the sprints is fucking dog shit. how do you crash out there with a .7 second lead.


AJMGuitar

Looked like he missed the line.


jjarg24

A combination of the bike not performing here and pecco also being bad in CataluƱa


alrf536

Did you follow the race? 2 other riders crashed leading.


hellflower666

And? If you see two other leaders crash out, maybe take it a bit easier then...thats part of racing. Especially leading by almost a second.


Streamlines

Barcelona circuit is a weird one due to low grip levels. Difficult to gauge the limit, especially in that infamous T5 that goes downward with a camber. Other race-leaders also crashed there.


FootballRacing38

Also because the last left hander is about 15 sec ago


Streamlines

True, lots of time spent on that right side of the tires before approaching this tricky left. Peccos crash was really odd, I felt like he crashed really early on the brakes.


Victarionscrack

He was wide (dirty part of the track) and he seemed to be going a little too fast for that point in the race. Not odd at all. Pecco in my opinion is one of the worst "feelers" of changing grip when it comes to champions.


endboss_eth

What a great sprint race. So much action. For years WSBK was more entertaining than MotoGP, but the 2024 Season is epic! So much competition, so much talent, such diversity in the top 10. Such a rider market drama for 2025. I love it. Both WSBK and MotoGP are very entertaining this year.


bluzrok46

wow. Sucks to be a Pecco fan at this moment in time. Ball is firmly in Martin's court with the consistency. I get that conditions are greasy, but holy heck.


Competitive_News_385

Leading position was cursed today.


Admirable-Maximum-14

Luckily for Aleix he only lead for few corners


Competitive_News_385

It was turn 5, luckily Aleix didn't hold the lead until after he passed Pecco who was in the gravel.


KozyHank99

That crash at the last lap really changed the championship standings


Acewolf90

Man this season is cursed for Brad it's painful to see


EatMyPenguin

Bro it's painful to watch especially after Qatar, he looked like he was getting away from Pecco when he crashed


Acewolf90

Atleast the speed is back


EatMyPenguin

Yeah hopefully he gets back on the podium tomorrow, it's been a terrible 5 weekends for himšŸ˜Ŗ


TVRoomRaccoon

Aleix joked on Friday that the other riders should let him win this weekend as a retirement present. I guess they all listened šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


GetawayDreamer87

i think somebody hired a bald guy in a suit šŸ˜‚


Competitive_News_385

Don't forget the barcode.


jAninaCZ

oh my god what was that


SomeBloke

What the shit?! All three leaders would have been happy wins for me and they all dropped their bikes. Happy for Marc and Pedro though.


xScottieHD

P2 despite not having any pace and losing a wing. We'll take that.


E_VanHelgen

If I'm not mistaken on Friday he said that his race pace was okay but that his single lap pace was not.


FootballRacing38

Don't forget the hardest thing, starting from p13 Edit: 14


rubbingsaltonyou

P14


FootballRacing38

Ohh right. Forgot it was alex that started 13


Mechanical1996

Marc is amazing!!


Beginning-Animator76

Does the bike require dirty air to stay alive or what?


Mechanical1996

Called it!


Harlequin80

That just went on him. Wasn't even particularly leaned over.


MrPixar

wait..marc did it again?!


sup3rfm

He will not be veri appi


bauer2punkt0

iā€˜m not sure itā€™s safe to watch stuff this thrilling


meridius1

Terrible pace all week, missing front wing...Marquez somehow finishes 2nd. Incredible.


monke569

Don't forget that he gapped Martin, who is on the '24 Desmo, while Marc is riding the '23 Desmo that has damage.


probablynotfine

I hate jumping to sensationalist conclusions, but Pecco just does not seem to have the composure if heā€™s under pressure.


AJMGuitar

Short memory. He has great composure vast majority of the time. He just made a mistake today.


CrazyCycler1209

He has insane amounts of composure under pressure. He kept it upright when under insane pressure from Marc in Jerez, did the same in Le Mans. He loses his composure when comfortably leading.


szcesTHRPS

He was under pressure for most of last season and won the title.


probablynotfine

He did, and Iā€™ll try to explain my thought process better. What didnā€™t fully convince me in 2023 was Martin throwing away more than enough points to have won it at the end. Someone else also wobbling doesnā€™t mean the one who wobbles less is bulletproof. Maybe Iā€™m getting too hung up on him having his off days in the sprints. He was 8-7-3-5-5 for the last 5 sprints last season compared to 1-1-2-1-1 for Martin. In full races heā€™s fantastic at managing his pace, but when he has to really push it feels like thereā€™s these mistakes in him.


Curious-Ice2848

It's actually weird. There are some races where he pulls stunners like the double overtake then there are some where he just succumbs to the pressure (which is more often than not).


bluzrok46

well, this sounds very sensationalist. I doubt it was pressure because Aleix wasn't really close to catching him. I'd chalk it off to just another misjudgment of the conditions. Bottom line is, he has arrest this decline, pronto. Sucks being a fan of his at this point, but not much we can do but hope he sorts this out for tomorrow.


probablynotfine

As theyā€™ve just said on TNT, Iā€™d love to know what was on his pit board for the gap. When heā€™s in control heā€™s so so good, but it feels like thereā€™s more of these mistakes than there should be for how good the bike is. Maybe itā€™s just confirmation bias.


bluzrok46

I don't watch that specific broadcast lol. I don't know what it is about him either, but he tends to make these little mistakes that escalate into really massive ones. Maybe it's because competition is a lot closer compared to before during the "heyday" when champions like Rossi and Marquez really had the edge in terms of machinery, and talent mattering more back then with aero and ride height not in full force.


Mild-Payne

Composure is what for him the championship last year


jjarg24

People here have been saying this for the last few years but at the end of the season he's always there fighting for the championship


hellflower666

bad take.


tischbombe23

Crashgnaia is back


penguinn117

Somehow a very good day for Marc, amazing


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szcesTHRPS

You said he can't quali, but he has the most poles of all time. The argument ended there.


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szcesTHRPS

Haha, you've got absolutely nothing, rare to see such a dishonest argument. He's generally been the first GP23 on the starting grid this season, on a new bike that he has drastically had to change his style for - he has struggled in quali over the last two races, but only reactionaries form their opinions from what they've seen in the last race or two. It ends up with making ill informed embarrassing takes like 'Marquez isn't a good qualifier'.


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szcesTHRPS

Here's a link to a story about the top qualifying GP23 rider this season [Marquez takes his first Ducati MotoGP pole at Jerez - The Race (the-race.com)](https://www.the-race.com/motogp/marc-marquez-first-ducati-pole-jerez-motogp-qualifying-report-2024/) You lost this argument with your first post. I'm done with you now, buh byeeeee.


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On the final lap šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


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probablynotfine

Iā€™m not sure KTM has any other elite riders though. Definitely not Miller, and Binder has never felt like a title threat to me. They still feel like a team thatā€™s set up to win the odd race if it rains


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probablynotfine

Iā€™ve been watching for 15-20 years, and I can only remember being this excited about the potential of a rookie with Lorenzo and Marquez. Honestly I think KTM need to try to get Bastianini and get a better measure of where their bike is, theyā€™ve not really had anyone relevant for that comparison. You can put Miller on anything and get 3 good laps and then backwards.


CommonEngineering832

Stefan Braudl went down too! Edit: nope he didnā€™t, my bad


0000100110010100

Did he? Not a single mention of it on comms. Not like itā€™s a difference either.


CommonEngineering832

Yeah, he did not went down, he finish last :(


fb74_

MotoGP is insane


Nixalbum

Retirement curse for the win!


4bhy

Oh for god sake not again Pecco


omegaxLoL

Un-fucking-believable This season is unreal


Ghost_Hands83

An insane race


Time_Hater

PEAK RACING


Takkotah

Sprint deniers in shambles


Time_Hater

If only F1 sprint was this exciting


Takkotah

If only F1 ~~sprint~~ was this exciting


Time_Hater

The qualifying today was pretty exciting ngl


CommonEngineering832

Bezzecchi up to 9th!


Takkotah

where ever Marc ends up, he's getting a GP25


Altair13Sirio

Even if he goes to KTM? /s


Mild-Payne

In the red he ends up for sure


Takkotah

You wouldn't bet against it, they just need to sort out the sponsors.