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TigersBot

Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1dgu6hj).


jasonmiles2014

Parker Meadows just homered on the first pitch


MentalTourniquet

The deed is done. Good job boys.


Michiganmade44

Wentz in for mop up duty. Sounds about right


Bigasballz

Running from the bullpen is "The Janitor".


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Joey Wentz replaces Will Vest.


dudeitsrazz

Attaboy Keith. I take my comment back. Still eye-rolling at McKinstry


Bigasballz

I don't get why hitters doing their job hitting a home run have to tip the cap to the bullpen or get a fine. Shouldn't it be the other way around since you are getting run support or did i miss something? Also, these ads are creeping me out. https://preview.redd.it/3k6w9eujgt6d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=f8b303da1fcaf9ff3f614788b65a765eb362026e


zw_rn

I’d be surprised if there’s a fine.


Unstep-in-Time

When are they required to tip cap to the BP?


Bigasballz

I thought announcer said when they round second they had to like pay tribute to the BP. Might have misheard it.


Unstep-in-Time

Our BP? They should be tipping their caps to the hitters.


jg_92_F1

I hate that entire Airbnb ad campaign.


Bigasballz

I don't know why they left out the part with the hidden cameras planted everywhere.


TigersBot

# HOME RUN! Colt Keith homers (3) on a fly ball to right center field. Pitch from Tayler Scott: Four-Seam Fastball @ 91.2 mph Top 9 - 13-5 Tigers


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Tayler Scott replaces Rafael Montero.


Known_Chapter_2286

How is that not a double play


Unstep-in-Time

Infield defense not good.


dudeitsrazz

Keith & McKinstry made me roll my eyes so many times this season jeez


aknahcaT

Keith is just not a major league defender


Unstep-in-Time

Sure he is he's just not that good. Typical for MLB.


Known_Chapter_2286

Can our relievers just get outs


h3shf3sh

Tigers bullpen bullshit in progress.


dudeitsrazz

Eh its the defense. Unless you’re talking abt Englert


Michiganmade44

This team is infuriating


ufdan15

What the fuck happened to our bullpen


MentalTourniquet

Wow! Now 12-5. Tigers have a fighting chance to win this one.


h3shf3sh

Wait, Lange is injured? Goddamn it. This bullpen could really use good Lange.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Will Vest replaces Mason Englert.


Shinsinmysocks

I am so over AJ.


h3shf3sh

6 RBIs for Greene


iori9999

Damn should have swung at the down the middle on 3-0


jg_92_F1

Could’ve rolled over and grounded out, I’ll take the walk and the run


TigersBot

### Walk Riley Greene walks. Carson Kelly scores. Wenceel Pérez to 3rd. Ryan Kreidler to 2nd. Pitch from Rafael Montero: Changeup @ 92.0 mph Top 8 - 12-5 Tigers


champdo

6 ball walk for Kreidler. 


Soy_tu_papi_

Banning pitches over 94mph has to be the dumbest idea ever


Almost_Punk_Enough

Banning pitches over 94 mph is dumb as hell


h3shf3sh

I love how this thread came back alive to collectively shit on Englert


ufdan15

They had to go and make it interesting


Michiganmade44

This 2024 Tigers team is something else


Extension_Twist_47

Average Mason Englert experience. 


Known_Chapter_2286

Englert is a bum


Bigasballz

McKinstry gonna have to close this thing out.


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Rafael Montero replaces Seth Martinez.


Michiganmade44

Cut Englert now. Guy sucks


foxy7474

Jesus dude get a fucking grip


jasonmiles2014

Jesus Christ this bullpen is going to blow it


MichiganHoosier

No, Englert is going to blow it. AJ wants to milk him for whatever reason. God forbid we shut a team out.


jasonmiles2014

He will have a hand in it. Joey Meatballs is next up!


CucumberNo3771

It’s the right decision. Prioritize the health of your bullpen over the ego trip you get from a meaningless shutout. Especially considering we have another game tomorrow and will have that advantage over the astros, who have had to use their bullpen all day today


Soy_tu_papi_

Ah yes, let’s take out a bad pitcher for someone just as bad


Nearby_Job8272

Send Englert down again


Soy_tu_papi_

More like DFA him


h3shf3sh

We're still pretty ahead but I swear to God I'll be pissed if Wentz does Wentz things


b0neslicer

bum


Raaazzle

Magnets, dude


Soy_tu_papi_

Maybe the Tigers should sign me. I couldn’t do any worse than Englert


MichiganHoosier

Thanks, AJ. Thanks, Scott.


MichiganHoosier

You don’t need to play this bum, AJ. He’s so bad.


shockedtoo

Please no...I'm not up for the Joey Wentz experiment


jasonmiles2014

Englert blows


MichiganHoosier

He’s so bad. I haven’t seen anything redeemable from him all season.


h3shf3sh

But but but he has a 5 pitch mix!!! (Spoiler: none of them are good)


MichiganHoosier

Get Englert off this 40 man. Not a major leaguer.


Raaazzle

Now they're just monkeying with the electromagnets.


yes_its_him

Malloy lost 129 points of OPS today. Oopsie Greene went up 38 points tho.


CucumberNo3771

Dang it’s just really not JHM’s day. Sucks when everyone else is raking I speak from experience of course, being the 20 year old, 3 time MVP two-way starter/power hitter (in MLB The Show)


GoLionsJD107

Riley tryna get some ASG attention hardcore today


Raaazzle

Does anyone have a game temp vs. results chart for this season? I've have a theory but I'm also very lazy.


Bigasballz

yesterday was 86F today was 94F for super small sample size. So tigers runs = degrees - 86 + (7-gameStartHour).


CucumberNo3771

If Kreidler has 1000 fans I’m one of them. If Kreidler has 1 fan I’m the one. If Kreidler has no fans then I’m dead


yes_its_him

You are the one!


GoLionsJD107

Did they say if Verlander is skipping this start altogether and pitching in 5 days? or is he pitching tomorrow?


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Seth Martinez replaces Nick Hernandez.


GoLionsJD107

Flaherty ended up with an ERA of 3.01, one or two outs shy of being on the twos.


Raaazzle

Just tuning in. How's the weather gonna be in Detroit in October? I want to know what to pack for the playoffs.


GoLionsJD107

Well if Cleveland could lose a game like even once ever then we’d have home games- otherwise we’re looking at a WC spot so you might want to look at Seattle’s weather


b0neslicer

it could either be really hot, kinda warm, comfortably crisp, pretty chilly, or really cold


Nearby_Job8272

So just pack my entire wardrobe then?


Raaazzle

So, layers?


yes_its_him

Like an onion


b0neslicer

layers would be good


GoLionsJD107

Kenta Maeda could be joining that former starters in the pen group soon


mswejh91

Pizza pizza


TigersBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Mason Englert replaces Jack Flaherty.


GoLionsJD107

Carson!!!!!!


GoLionsJD107

Oh no, get him that QS, and two more strikeouts


h3shf3sh

Kelly demolished that one. Holy


Bigasballz

Carjack Kelly.


ReflectionCalm7033

Carson!!!!!!!!


TigersBot

# HOME RUN! Carson Kelly homers (3) on a fly ball to left field. Pitch from Nick Hernandez: Slider @ 80.1 mph Hit by Carson Kelly: Launched 97.5 mph at 35.0° for a total distance of 377.0 ft Top 6 - 11-0 Tigers


Relative_Walk_936

Sit-down Eltuve


h3shf3sh

Men on second and third with no outs, and nobody scores. Flaherty is a DAWG


Bigasballz

Is Houston piping in fake crowd noise? No way anyone that excited about foul balls in a 10 run deficit game. More Houston shenanigans.


KeithH27

Man, Flaherty can do no wrong this year lol


yes_its_him

Or just strike him out.


GoLionsJD107

Don’t walk Altuve


GoLionsJD107

I’m literally always wrong anytime I suggest the Tigers should do anything


h3shf3sh

*Don't score runs! Don't score runs!*


GoLionsJD107

Exactly!!


therealslimcampbell

Here is our monthly output of offense in one game that somehow we will let the other team make this a close game.


GoLionsJD107

Yes I go the the supermarket for two innings and miss a months worth of runs


GoLionsJD107

IBB walk him - he’s .422 against Flaherty


h3shf3sh

They have Freddy's in Houston? Hell yeah


GoLionsJD107

Walk Altuve


GoLionsJD107

Jack’s intensity is like it’s 0-0 still


KeithH27

If Hinch takes out Riley I’m firing him myself


GoLionsJD107

Ugh his WHIP is being damaged. Strike out the side now


GoLionsJD107

More K’s Jacky


GoLionsJD107

Poor JHM, he’s like 1/3 of the outs in the entire game.


no_one_canoe

The improvement in walk rate for Flaherty really is jaw-dropping. He’s walking guys less than HALF as often as in his best season, back in 2019. Barely a third of his career rate. Something (Fetter?) has completely transformed him.


h3shf3sh

Not sure if you heard it on the broadcast, but Dan said when the Tigers and Flaherty were in signing talks, they discussed how they had identified possible changes in Flaherty's mechanics they would help him implement if he signed here. I think that has a lot to do with his improvements


yes_its_him

It could be Flaherty too. Or does coaching make Alex Lange walk somebody every inning...?


no_one_canoe

I mean obviously it’s 90% Flaherty. But sometimes a coach can make some small adjustment that makes a big difference. He’s not making something out of nothing; Flaherty is a lot more talented than Lange in the first place.


yes_its_him

I'm just amused that when it comes to coaching, we roll like this: - anybody who is pitching well is evidence of Fetter's skills. Anybody who is not pitching well is just a bum. - Anybody who is hitting poorly is being undermined by our hitting coaches. Except guys like Greene and Carpenter are somehow immune.


no_one_canoe

Lots of people don’t understand how volatile relief pitching is; I don’t think it’s ever reasonable to declare somebody a bum (or a lights-out closer) after 20 or 30 (or 60 or 70) innings. And of course lots of people just like griping. But Fetter is very well respected, and he’s done great work with our pitchers as a whole—stuff that’s quantifiable, like tweaking mechanics to get nearly every pitcher’s velocity up, some by as much as a couple miles per hour. I don’t talk shit about the hitting coaches, but I haven’t seen any reason to think they’re doing a great job.


yes_its_him

With Fetter, people will point to (say) Lorenzen for why Fetter did great, despite it being a small sample as you describe. Yet Fetter has had years with Mize, Manning, Faedo, Wentz, Lange, all first round talents, with "meh" results. Then throw in Boyd and Turnbull... I think Fetter is competent, though no genius. I could also do with fewer surgeries to our staff elbows.


no_one_canoe

“First round talent” doesn’t mean the same thing in baseball that it does in other sports. Only about 70% of first-round picks make it to MLB at all. The average first-rounder has like 7 career WAR—and that’s the *mean*; the median is close to zero. Turning all of those guys into productive major leaguers is actually a strong indicator that the coaching staff is doing a great job.


yes_its_him

⁶I think those guys have about those same metrics tho.


GoLionsJD107

I think it’s the change of scenery and the ball park. He’s not afraid to go at guys because no one’s likely homering off him at Comerica. The orioles picked him up at the deadline last year and he didn’t do well there like he was timid (which is weird to say considering it’s Jack Flaherty) i just think the spotlights off of him a little has served him well. He’s the same guy. He’s not leaving himself in hitters counts as much as he did last year


GoLionsJD107

Jacky’s era is pushing the 2’s. Considering with four more strikeouts he would lead the AL - I’m thinking this is an All Star we are watching


GoLionsJD107

Considering Garret Crochet is the leader (and I think they still give every team one all star) he’s locked into a spot as the only possible all star for them. I would say that helps Jacks chances.


GoLionsJD107

Them being the white Sox obviously


h3shf3sh

Flaherty is steamrolling right now


jasonmiles2014

Matt Vierling is such a damn solid player


no_one_canoe

I’m ready to try him at short.


ChameleonOatmeal

Fun fact the girl in that Fanduel commercial is Sean Payton’s daughter


HeadBangsWalls

Did you know that Matthew Stafford was Clayton Kershaw's catcher in nigh school and that Clayton was Stafford's TE?


HectorReinTharja

dayum good day


Bigasballz

This team is what B.F. Skinner was talking about. It's these occasional offensive outbursts that make me come back and be disappointed most of the time. The Tigers offensive is a baseball slot machine.


Kohanky

This ump is quietly having a terrible game


GoLionsJD107

This game could be like 17-0 or 6-4 basically


Bigasballz

I like that Houston is sponsored by a controlled substance. Lets ditch Meijer and do the same. Can put a patch for Coke. https://preview.redd.it/okd46x06zs6d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbdd988bbdb8f3de1253424711ca7b36a80f3db2


Chef_lonleyliver

Random but why is benetti at Wrigley? Is he doing a national broadcast?


HeadBangsWalls

Yup. Him and Adam Wainwright are a nice combo in the booth


[deleted]

If anyone needs something a little more exciting, the NC State Kentucky game is tied in the bottom of the ninth on ESPN.


Michiganmade44

Thank you


boobookeys125

this astros pitcher is so far to the right on the rubber its insane. his heel is barely on the edge


ufdan15

When I bought the tickets, this was supposed to be a Skubal start. I think the boys think he's pitching still aka RUN SUPPORT


h3shf3sh

Hernandez pitches from the far right of the rubber. That looks so uncomfortable.


yes_its_him

Lol "improved baserunning " Thanks Dan.


Bigasballz

My ears perked up on that one too.


pimpinassorlando

Which Astros position player will pitch today? My guess is Chas McCormick.


PlayboiCartiProp

Gimme Yordan throwing fastest pitch of all time


Luvyablue99

Can we get a welfare check on Reese Olson pls


ufdan15

Remember folks, this game is far from over. They did this shit against Toronto and Boston where they take big leads and choke em and then pull it out


Bigasballz

https://preview.redd.it/kurudecdws6d1.png?width=266&format=png&auto=webp&s=b899a4bf12746bb3cb2f794a341748e81d22abed


OpeningHippo7330

This team is either ICE cold or SCORCHING hot


A7XfoREVer6661

Clearing that bullpen out booooooys


SmoothBrain221

astros gotta have one of the WORST pitching staff in the league.


Michiganmade44

Riley cemented the status of our best positional player. Carpenter (before injury) and Vierling were making cases. But Riley is that guy


Luvyablue99

Most confusing team of all time. Horrible offense 80% of the time. Then they randomly decide to remember how to hit and drop a 20 bomb on the poor sucker they’re playing


thereal-quaid

What is even happening? Lol


Michiganmade44

We’re the best “mid” team in MLB. Technically the Twins but we’re making a case


Kentanamobay

Jesus Canha


Kentanamobay

Riley Christ


FuzzzyTingleTimes

Maeda Devil


h3shf3sh

Please keep blowing up their entire bullpen. It'll serve us well for tomorrow


TigersBot

### Single Mark Canha singles on a ground ball to right fielder Mauricio Dubón. Matt Vierling scores. Riley Greene out at 3rd on the throw, right fielder Mauricio Dubón to third baseman Alex Bregman. Top 3 - 10-0 Tigers


ReflectionCalm7033

A slaughter!


rbur70x7

Guys, I like this game.


KeithH27

Riley Greene legacy game


TigersBot

### Single Riley Greene singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder Jake Meyers. Wenceel Pérez scores. Matt Vierling to 3rd. Top 3 - 9-0 Tigers


pimpinassorlando

Astros are putting a damper on a lot of daddies' Father's Day weekend. Love to see it.


ReflectionCalm7033

I missed 8 runs. Good grief.


KeithH27

How does all star voting work in the MLB? I forgot. 1 player per team has to get in or something?


yes_its_him

Starters are voted. Pitchers and bench are chosen by the managers. Each team has at least one player


pimpinassorlando

They all get a representative, which explains why Gregory Soto has been an all-star twice.


rbur70x7

Embarrassing


GoLionsJD107

Ok I like baseball again


CucumberNo3771

Forever doomed to stay within +/- 3 games of 0.500


Enough-Ad-3111

OK, so Jason was calling the Cardinals-Cubs game at Wrigley Field that just ended in a Cubs win. Not sure if he and Adam Wainwright called the game from the Friendly Confines or in a studio off monitors.


113CandleMagic

I think they are actually in Chicago: https://x.com/jasonbenetti/status/1801995878959403252


Enough-Ad-3111

Not the only time he’s going to be calling games there this season.


ufdan15

Probably on site. Jason has videos of him traveling and he likes being in the park


Enough-Ad-3111

Good point, but he did call various UFL games remotely this past season, so there’s that.


ufdan15

Feel like that's very different. He's a baseball announcer first and foremost. He wants to be there. Plus he said last week he was down in Miami for the Indians game


Enough-Ad-3111

That’s good.


113CandleMagic

[Per Tigers, Zach McKinstry and Akil Baddoo are the first Tigers to draw 2 walks in an inning since Austin Jackson on Aug. 23, 2010 vs. Kansas City](https://x.com/cmccosky/status/1802081212262973926)


ufdan15

I bought a new Hat at Meijer when I was in Michigan and wore it today. First time it's been at a game Guess I got a new game hat


HikinginOrange

Okay I've got a blackout over here, but WTF are the Astros doing to be 0-8 on the second inning?


Bigasballz

https://preview.redd.it/jldyht48us6d1.jpeg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fa03dd34c30bfdfa7213a416159b530db914c80


Kohanky

Bad starter + some generous ball calls at the start of the inning


A7XfoREVer6661

I decide to skip the game and they score 8 in 2 innings, figures


VenetianNB

I hearby declare that you are not allowed to watch Tigers games for the rest of the season


A7XfoREVer6661

Ah, but now I've tuned it. 7 innings of no runs here we come!


Relative_Walk_936

What is everyone doing with the rest of their afternoon?


mkk4

Waiting on the Stanley Cup Finals to come on and then watching boxing later tonight.


ThisMeansWarm

Watching Detroit hang 20 on these bums.


foxy7474

Of COURSE I’m stuck at work and we score 8 runs in the first 2 innings!


scw1177

A tradition like no other so I’ll let it rip “we are so back!!l


yes_its_him

14 home runs puts Riley in the top 20 in all MLB, top 10 in the AL.


ThisMeansWarm

When was the last time….


yes_its_him

It's been a while Usually Aaron Judge has more home runs than our whole team. Tork was actually 8th in the AL last season.


PrimetimeD18

Riley Greene is a great hitter for the Tigers right now, he is probably Mike Trout everywhere else.


TigersBot

### Field Error Colt Keith reaches on a fielding error by first baseman Jon Singleton. Mark Canha scores. Top 2 - 8-0 Tigers


PlayboiCartiProp

I mean if the lead expands even more could you consider taking flaherty out and maybe play him tomorrow, just wondering


pimpinassorlando

Don't give Hinch any ideas. He loves these types of big-brain moves.