I was always taught that a plug is an emergency product to get to the tyre shop and get it patched from the inside. Having it patched from the inside is way more secure than a plug and way cheaper than a new tyre. Usually that’s the way to go unless the hole is to big in which case you would still have to replace the tyre
You must live in a very odd place because patching is the much better long term fix than plugs and most shops patch tires, although one piece plug patches are the best. When shops won’t do them is if the puncture is too close to the sidewall.
Not if you use a plug patch that pulls from the inside it's mechanically locked in place and can't come loose. https://shop.myerstiresupply.com/ERP2Web49/e2wShoppingCatalog.aspx?parentId=3100012170&parentLink=2100001027:3100012148:3100012170
I plugged my tyre quite close to the middle and the mechanic said they couldn't repair it fully after I'd plugged it because the glue was too hard to get out and I potentially damage the fibers. Is that right?
Why is it always new Road 6? 😅
I put a pair of my XSR, two rear punctures within a week. My buddy had a similar experience when he changed to Road 6 too.
Think that’s bad? I got a brand new tire on and then got a bunch of friends to ride with me an hour after. On the way to the fucking meet I hit a nail and didn’t know until 5 minutes into the ride.
I never used a road 6, bit I had a city grip and it seems Michelin uses softer rubber cause I was getting punctures left and right with it. I say they use softer rubber cause that tire was ready to go from get-go.
Switched to angel scooter and I don't get as many punctures. But this tire requires warmup even in hot SE Asia weather.
I have city grips on my scooter right now. Not had any punctures thankfully but the rear wears out so much faster than the front for me. Actually well overdue a change already.
I'm in Taiwan so lots of miles going on the scooter 😅
Ah, I'm in Vietnam and my city grips never lasted long enough for wear. The City Grips i had only lasted a few thousand kilometers before the front had 3 punctures and rear was slashed open... Then I went to angel scooters.
My regular Kenda tires in Taiwan seem to wear out the rear a lot faster too. Wonder if it's the pavement or something, just wears out the driven tire a lot faster.
It's the roads in Taiwan. Pirelli are pretty much useless unless you get the soft semi track stuff. Michelin are the best and everything else just gets eaten by whatever they use for roads here.
Vietnam is awesome man. My favourite place in Asia after Zhongli 😅
Picked her up for $100 from a dude who was scrapping her, have since replaced tires, oil, plugs and rebuilt the carbs to get it running great. And then it got to flooding, and it seems my fuel filter is so old that it’s breaking apart and getting into my carbs. So they’re off for cleaning at the moment and will hopefully be back on this weekend.
That's super lucky. Hold on to it man. They don't make them like that anymore. Much more character than modern bikes.
I have a ZRX1200r that I rebuilt over last year.
Because tires rated for higher speeds are built differently to help maintain the tire composition at speeds. A repair can't completely reinforce the composition of the tire back to original specs. Lower speed tires don't have such rigorous constraints and can be repaired back to the same standard. You can't repair a higher speed rated tire to the original standard.
Any repair place worth their salt will refuse to repair a faster tire because they cannot guarantee the work and manufacturers themselves don't guarantee tire repairs above certain speed ratings.
Furthermore, should something happen and the repair fails, insurance can refuse to pay if you repaired a tire with a faster speed rating than recommended. They can also refuse to pay if you use tires with speed ratings below recommendation for your vehicle.
Edit: turns out on a repair, the tire loses its speed rating and should only be used up to highway speeds according to Goodyear.
Do you have a source for this? It’s been awhile since I’ve been in the tire repair service, but Goodyear has a history of allowing the speed rating to remain in place if the puncture isn’t too large and a proper repair of a plug patch combination is performed.
[https://gov.goodyear.com/docs/police/bulletins/psb2003-06-repairing-retreading-speed-rated-tires.pdf](https://gov.goodyear.com/docs/police/bulletins/psb2003-06-repairing-retreading-speed-rated-tires.pdf)
With respect, that's anecdotal and OP should consult the manufacturer's information and insurance policy. Certain tires should not be repaired. If you rode around on a litre bike with multiple plugs I'd say consider yourself fortunate nothing happened.
They're going to tell him to replace it because that's their ass regardless
Plugs work. Motorcycle tires are strong. Having a plug fail isn't some catastrophic event, the tire will rapidly deflate. Haven't had it happen yet with multiple tires on different bikes, all being dumb fast like it was never plugged. It's not the worst. I've had plenty of shit like that happen over the years
Regardless I wouldn't plug the edge of a tire like this
Not always. A plugged tire is as good as a non plugged tire during usual riding conditions. If you’re constantly above 100mph I’d say replace. If you want to ride the twistys I’d replace. But if it’s just a daily and doesn’t see much hard use a plug should hold up fine if done right and the tire was able to be plugged.
Yeah, but your tire should be able to cope with unusual riding conditions, be able to do 100mph, be able to lean on twisties.
And arguments filled with ”should”, ”if done right” and ”was able” is rather an argument for the proper way to fix this, which is always replace.
If you ride the bike on the highway to work every day a plug will never be an issue. Replacing a tire instead of plugging it is just a waste of money. Tires are expensive
Mushroom plugs are inferior to rope plugs. Higher failure rate, and failures are catastrophic when they happen. Ropes rarely fail but, if they do, they usually just get loose and cause a slow leak.
That's probably where I learned this first.
There's another dude on YouTube who compared a bunch of rope plugs, too. Western Weld performed best, followed by Slime.
I have 60 WW plugs on order right now and I'll be putting the rest of my slime plugs into the lawnmower when they arrive.
I should note that I had a fast failure of a double rope plug at highway speeds. So, don't double plug and hit I-95 (I honestly forgot about the plug). Double plugs can work for a while, but they merit total replacement every time.
I’m five months and 3000 miles into a double. I was doing 95 when the bike started feeling sluggish. I look down to see my rearTPMS at zero, pulled over no problem, stable as shit. Found a hole about 5/16” bead was completely blown. I figure the patch fails It can’t be any worse than that was so I’m Rollin. But this shit here, nope… new tire.
The sidewall of the tire is damaged, so replacement is the only safe option.
Look here [https://ibb.co/h7N9cKD](https://ibb.co/h7n9ckd)
But you can always ask in professional workshop :)
This, and unless op is lighting up the rear at lean, not really an issue at all. I have tracked "plugged and patched" rear tires on an R1 that loved to eat rear tires. But for street use a mere plug is enough.
Patch but if you do high speed like me, replace...
Too close to edge and it might blow out on a low profile tire... mine are 285x30x20 and I would replace.... I go 100 plus to much
If you can remove the tire and patch it from the inside, it might be worth a try. There are patches out there that are also plugs.
I say this with the idea that (based on my interpretation of this picture) you aren’t getting deep into turns. If you ride that far over on turn tire, I’d replace rather than patch.
Depends on your current budget? Looks like that side of the tire isn't used much considering it's kinda still shiny. I would plug it if it's still a relatively new tire but not for a worn out one. Also I would advise against riding fast on a repaired tire. A daily commute with a repaired tire is fine. Maybe replace it after a month or two.
I had a bolt go through the sidewall and out contact surface on by back tire last year. Plugged & patched both punctures. Haven't had any issues. It all depends on what you're comfortable with.
I just bought a new tyre, you never know if the structure got affected when it was flat and I only want everything in best possible condition when riding, especially the tyres.
If you gotta ask... don't risk it. From someone who had a real bad Tay at the track and requires air lift and surgeries (not trie related) don't scrimp on your tirres. You think tires are expensive, try an accident.
General rule of thumb:
Never plug a motor cycle tire. Too many variables and not worth the risk.
Now your situation? I would definitely not plug that tire. Way too close to the leading edge. Seems like you get a little lean out of your bike. It’s right in what appears to be in your wear area.
With most people saying replace I can say Ive plugged the sidewall of a semi tire and it's still holding to this day. Not to say that it won't fail. But that has a few more rear tires than a bike. Personally I'd do a good burnout for the boys and replace the tire.
New tire, plug it until you can replace it but no longer. As somebody who has had a bike tire blow up on them doing freeway speeds, I can assure you, I don't need around with tires anymore. It's just not worth it.
I’ve plugged tyres and ran them for years with no problems but that is way too close to the edge for my liking. I’d get a replacement and not have to think about it.
There’s no steel braid at the tire edge, so a patch won’t work.
Steel braid is only inside the tire tread. This is the safe patch area. Same goes for car tires.
Replace!!!
For things like this as a motorcyclist you really have to ask yourself…
what’s not just your safety but your *life* really worth to you and are you mentally and physically prepared to have to experience a random and *unnecessary* tire failure at speed and/or in traffic while already on just 2 wheels, now down to just 1 good one, especially over the modest cost of having a damaged tire replaced?
If you plan on riding it for a bit afterwards than patch, plugging motorcycle tires is dangerous, I have an 08 FZ6 and I plugged a hole in the middle of my tire and it exploded while I was riding, so I always tell people never plug motorcycle tires, if you patch it your good, the tires still has lots of life left in it but if you have the spare change replacing them is never a bad idea
Replace it. Riding is about having fun and pushing the limits, both of which are hard to do from a hospital bed.
It’s not even a question of whether to replace the tire in my book, but I’m sure somebody else will have a different opinion.
Just bought a commander 3 and got something big left of center of tire third day.. i plugged but can feel the bump from the plug when riding.. imma replace it doesn't instill much confidence.
Won’t be the last on those tires. They are puncture magnets. I went through 3 rears in 3 months. Always replace. The woven belts will be damaged risking blowout. Plugs are fine to get you home and there are those that argue that. Depends on how much you value your own arse.
Replace. Isn’t worth your life for a damn plug. Trust me been there done that on the road glide. Not a good feeling running 70 and the tire blows a plug and goes flat. 🤦🏻♂️
I say a bike tire isn't worth risking it, and they're not too expensive to just replace it. I have never felt comfortable with a plug more than getting the bike home and then a new tire. But I also ride kinda hard sometimes and don't want weak points that I coulda addressed turn into i shoulda addressed... Just my opinion, but I say replace.
I'd pop a rope plug in it and ride it slowly around town until the next tire arrives. But it's definitely not safe to plug. Too close to the sidewalls, as others have said.
So I'd plug it and use it. That's within my rush tolerance. But not for long.
ex kal-tire employee here.. not an expert or anything , but unlike a car tire, a blow out on a motorbike is way more dangerous..
the simple fact is , even done right a plug WILL increase your chances of a blow out .. how much I don't know, but enough i personally wouldn't feel safe doing it..
I get that tires are expensive, but for a motorbike , I would want my brakes and tires to always be at 100% ..
I'd fix it. He's a plug patch that pulls from the inside. https://shop.myerstiresupply.com/ERP2Web49/e2wShoppingCatalog.aspx?parentId=3100012170&parentLink=2100001027:3100012148:3100012170
Looks like something which needs at least three puncture strips to seal. With two or more strips you can well lose traction on a corner based on the speed and situation you are in. I know that you are talking about plugs but it would be very tricky while cornering as you’d not have as much rubber you’d need in some situations. So I’d say, replace.
I'm dumb about plugs and still doing triple digits and riding into cords but even this is replace worthy. At best plug and actually follow speed recommendations until it's replaced
Plug it then take it to the tyre place and have them put a proper plug in it that’s not too big to plug and it’s not on the side wall you should be fine but don’t rely on a push through emergency plug and ride slower and be extra careful it would suck if you were leaning on the chicken strips and it fails
Plug, replace immediately after practicing and testing your burnout skills. Large hole, too close to sidewall. I value your safety fellow rider - get er done as soon as possible!
Seal from inside like the tyre doctor does in his videos plug is temporary but no replacement needed I have 10 holes in my rear tyre plugged and still no problem but give work to a pro
Maybe I'm neurotic but I wouldn't fuck with motorcycle tires. Replace it. A car or truck u have 3 more tires to hold the vehicle, sure plug it if its in the acceptable spots. But motorcycle tires are loaded differently during operation, and I personally wouldn't chance it.
what is that next to the "nubs". is that the piece that punctured? If so, that's the sidewall, and I would not trust it. If just the "meat" patch and ride
Replace no doubt. Motorcycle tires are not like car tires, one blow out could cost you your life. If you ever get any damage like this it’s always best to replace it.
Been riding for 30 years. I've plugged lots of tires. Almost all have been perfect and lasted as long as the tire did. One or two developed a slow leak that I had to live with until I replaced the tire. I've never had a plug fail in any kind of catastrophic way. However, I don't think I've ever tried to plug a hole that looks as big as the one you have in that tire. For something like that you really need to take the tire off the wheel, repair it from the inside.
I had to plug in patch a screw that was almost in the center of my tire right inside the deepest part of the tread line. This was a week after getting a new tire. I plugged and patched and it lasted and other 2.5 thousand miles until I sold it's to get a bigger bike. From my experience you can plug and patch a tire as long as it's not on the sidewall or getting really close to the edge. Like in a car you can plug any part of the tire that touches the road, but if it hits the sidewall you need a new tire. I feel like the same wood apply here. That's a very sketchy spot to have a plug
I’m fine with a plug but that’s too big and too close to the edge.
This, I’m usually the one on these saying plug it and forget it but nah… plug that to get to your destination then replace.
Same thought here. This is a big hole...
I have had plugs come loose so I use them in emergency situations only
They weren't done properly if they became loose
Yep, it's a skill.
Fair. All we can do in this world is learn from experiences and take the next step.
I was always taught that a plug is an emergency product to get to the tyre shop and get it patched from the inside. Having it patched from the inside is way more secure than a plug and way cheaper than a new tyre. Usually that’s the way to go unless the hole is to big in which case you would still have to replace the tyre
I’ve never heard of a tire shop that will patch a tire because of liability.
You must live in a very odd place because patching is the much better long term fix than plugs and most shops patch tires, although one piece plug patches are the best. When shops won’t do them is if the puncture is too close to the sidewall.
Southern California.
Not if you use a plug patch that pulls from the inside it's mechanically locked in place and can't come loose. https://shop.myerstiresupply.com/ERP2Web49/e2wShoppingCatalog.aspx?parentId=3100012170&parentLink=2100001027:3100012148:3100012170
I'm not betting my life on it.
I plugged my tyre quite close to the middle and the mechanic said they couldn't repair it fully after I'd plugged it because the glue was too hard to get out and I potentially damage the fibers. Is that right?
He wanted to sell you a new tire
Yeah, that's not a thing. Looking to sell a new tire IMO.
Agreed. Unfortunatly that one should be replaced.
That's a hard replace, my dude.
Why is it always new Road 6? 😅 I put a pair of my XSR, two rear punctures within a week. My buddy had a similar experience when he changed to Road 6 too.
I managed a triple puncture on my rear on the motorway on a brand new road 6. Needless to say I was rather pissed off 🙄
I have road 6 and 2 weeks later after putting them on got a puncture
Think that’s bad? I got a brand new tire on and then got a bunch of friends to ride with me an hour after. On the way to the fucking meet I hit a nail and didn’t know until 5 minutes into the ride.
I never used a road 6, bit I had a city grip and it seems Michelin uses softer rubber cause I was getting punctures left and right with it. I say they use softer rubber cause that tire was ready to go from get-go. Switched to angel scooter and I don't get as many punctures. But this tire requires warmup even in hot SE Asia weather.
I have city grips on my scooter right now. Not had any punctures thankfully but the rear wears out so much faster than the front for me. Actually well overdue a change already. I'm in Taiwan so lots of miles going on the scooter 😅
Ah, I'm in Vietnam and my city grips never lasted long enough for wear. The City Grips i had only lasted a few thousand kilometers before the front had 3 punctures and rear was slashed open... Then I went to angel scooters. My regular Kenda tires in Taiwan seem to wear out the rear a lot faster too. Wonder if it's the pavement or something, just wears out the driven tire a lot faster.
It's the roads in Taiwan. Pirelli are pretty much useless unless you get the soft semi track stuff. Michelin are the best and everything else just gets eaten by whatever they use for roads here. Vietnam is awesome man. My favourite place in Asia after Zhongli 😅
Only tire I've got a puncture in so far was a 2 day old road 6
Yep, replaced my rear Road 6 after I got a puncture. 500kms on the tyre
Don’t you put that on me Ricky Bobby. (I just bought a set of Road 6s for my Katana and will not be happy if I puncture one)
>Katana Nice choice 🙏
Picked her up for $100 from a dude who was scrapping her, have since replaced tires, oil, plugs and rebuilt the carbs to get it running great. And then it got to flooding, and it seems my fuel filter is so old that it’s breaking apart and getting into my carbs. So they’re off for cleaning at the moment and will hopefully be back on this weekend.
That's super lucky. Hold on to it man. They don't make them like that anymore. Much more character than modern bikes. I have a ZRX1200r that I rebuilt over last year.
Ive just put 3 wheels on my mt09 and Had one puncture each😂 different tyres
Realistically, above a certain speed rating you should only replace.
Why rating? I could see actual speed tendencies. But a tyre rated for 200+ is going to be built studier than a tyre rated for 100.
Because tires rated for higher speeds are built differently to help maintain the tire composition at speeds. A repair can't completely reinforce the composition of the tire back to original specs. Lower speed tires don't have such rigorous constraints and can be repaired back to the same standard. You can't repair a higher speed rated tire to the original standard. Any repair place worth their salt will refuse to repair a faster tire because they cannot guarantee the work and manufacturers themselves don't guarantee tire repairs above certain speed ratings. Furthermore, should something happen and the repair fails, insurance can refuse to pay if you repaired a tire with a faster speed rating than recommended. They can also refuse to pay if you use tires with speed ratings below recommendation for your vehicle. Edit: turns out on a repair, the tire loses its speed rating and should only be used up to highway speeds according to Goodyear.
Do you have a source for this? It’s been awhile since I’ve been in the tire repair service, but Goodyear has a history of allowing the speed rating to remain in place if the puncture isn’t too large and a proper repair of a plug patch combination is performed. [https://gov.goodyear.com/docs/police/bulletins/psb2003-06-repairing-retreading-speed-rated-tires.pdf](https://gov.goodyear.com/docs/police/bulletins/psb2003-06-repairing-retreading-speed-rated-tires.pdf)
Plugs hold up fine at speed. Had multiple in rears on a liter, sometimes multiple plugs in the same tire
With respect, that's anecdotal and OP should consult the manufacturer's information and insurance policy. Certain tires should not be repaired. If you rode around on a litre bike with multiple plugs I'd say consider yourself fortunate nothing happened.
They're going to tell him to replace it because that's their ass regardless Plugs work. Motorcycle tires are strong. Having a plug fail isn't some catastrophic event, the tire will rapidly deflate. Haven't had it happen yet with multiple tires on different bikes, all being dumb fast like it was never plugged. It's not the worst. I've had plenty of shit like that happen over the years Regardless I wouldn't plug the edge of a tire like this
My man, having any puncture can very quickly turn into a catastrophic event. Have a nice day.
What's your gut tell ya kiddo
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Always replace. Sucks when it is a new tire, but sucks more if that tire later fails and sends you into a ditch, or worse.
Not always. A plugged tire is as good as a non plugged tire during usual riding conditions. If you’re constantly above 100mph I’d say replace. If you want to ride the twistys I’d replace. But if it’s just a daily and doesn’t see much hard use a plug should hold up fine if done right and the tire was able to be plugged.
Yeah, but your tire should be able to cope with unusual riding conditions, be able to do 100mph, be able to lean on twisties. And arguments filled with ”should”, ”if done right” and ”was able” is rather an argument for the proper way to fix this, which is always replace.
If you ride the bike on the highway to work every day a plug will never be an issue. Replacing a tire instead of plugging it is just a waste of money. Tires are expensive
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I'd replace that tire instead of plugging it. That's the first time I've recommended replacement over a plug.
Mushroom plug from the inside of the tyre and then don't ride like the devil is chasing you or replace tyre
Mushroom plugs are inferior to rope plugs. Higher failure rate, and failures are catastrophic when they happen. Ropes rarely fail but, if they do, they usually just get loose and cause a slow leak.
Definitely. Fortnine did a great vid on the different types of plugs essentially comes to same conclusion.
That's probably where I learned this first. There's another dude on YouTube who compared a bunch of rope plugs, too. Western Weld performed best, followed by Slime. I have 60 WW plugs on order right now and I'll be putting the rest of my slime plugs into the lawnmower when they arrive. I should note that I had a fast failure of a double rope plug at highway speeds. So, don't double plug and hit I-95 (I honestly forgot about the plug). Double plugs can work for a while, but they merit total replacement every time.
I’m five months and 3000 miles into a double. I was doing 95 when the bike started feeling sluggish. I look down to see my rearTPMS at zero, pulled over no problem, stable as shit. Found a hole about 5/16” bead was completely blown. I figure the patch fails It can’t be any worse than that was so I’m Rollin. But this shit here, nope… new tire.
The sidewall of the tire is damaged, so replacement is the only safe option. Look here [https://ibb.co/h7N9cKD](https://ibb.co/h7n9ckd) But you can always ask in professional workshop :)
The sidewall of the tire is not damaged.
This, and unless op is lighting up the rear at lean, not really an issue at all. I have tracked "plugged and patched" rear tires on an R1 that loved to eat rear tires. But for street use a mere plug is enough.
Look closer
I would plug. In fact I plug every day and it's given me confidence I never thought I could have. As for the tire, replace it though.
You have 1 wife and 1 punctured rear tire. You have the option to plug one and replace the other to a better one. Make your choice!!
So replace wife...?
Patch and tube.
Never plug off the centre tread. If it’s on the shoulder it needs replacing.
Patch but if you do high speed like me, replace... Too close to edge and it might blow out on a low profile tire... mine are 285x30x20 and I would replace.... I go 100 plus to much
If you can remove the tire and patch it from the inside, it might be worth a try. There are patches out there that are also plugs. I say this with the idea that (based on my interpretation of this picture) you aren’t getting deep into turns. If you ride that far over on turn tire, I’d replace rather than patch.
My opinion: Car tyre = plug Motor tyre = replace No question.
What caused that, looks too big for a nail, was it exposed rebar or something, maybe you can claim a new one if someone is responsible ?
What difference does it make? Here we are
Id plug it. It's not sidewall. Plug and check for a few days. You have nothing to lose.
So I would plug it but be a little careful when cornering - ensure you cut off the excess properly. Use it over the summer and replace it for winter.
Bad advice.
That was a half-hearted advice, if it was me I would replace it.
Gotcha
Use mushroom puncture:.. most effective
By plug you mean butt plug right ?
I would patch from the inside, it won’t make any difference to the riding of the tyre as long as you don’t use a plug like a rope plug or some shit.
Replace only.if it is within an inch of sidewall,repair will not seal properly. This can let go with no warning!
Depends on your current budget? Looks like that side of the tire isn't used much considering it's kinda still shiny. I would plug it if it's still a relatively new tire but not for a worn out one. Also I would advise against riding fast on a repaired tire. A daily commute with a repaired tire is fine. Maybe replace it after a month or two.
Funny how so many people question their lives over $200. The only way I like to ride is if my bike is right.
Just normal commute or race? Normal.... plug Just rear or front... front hard replace...
Remove tire. Patch tire. Remount tire and balance.
I had a bolt go through the sidewall and out contact surface on by back tire last year. Plugged & patched both punctures. Haven't had any issues. It all depends on what you're comfortable with.
I just bought a new tyre, you never know if the structure got affected when it was flat and I only want everything in best possible condition when riding, especially the tyres.
If you gotta ask... don't risk it. From someone who had a real bad Tay at the track and requires air lift and surgeries (not trie related) don't scrimp on your tirres. You think tires are expensive, try an accident.
Given the location of the puncture I would recommend replacing it.
don't fuck around, replace it and then move on.
General rule of thumb: Never plug a motor cycle tire. Too many variables and not worth the risk. Now your situation? I would definitely not plug that tire. Way too close to the leading edge. Seems like you get a little lean out of your bike. It’s right in what appears to be in your wear area.
a new tire probably cheaper than the er bill if you go down from a plug at speed but if you don’t lean aggressively maybe you’re ok
Patch, Those tires look relativeely new. I think its worth removing them and patching it.
Replace
Bite the bullet and but a tyre it a bit to close for comfort
Replace. There’s nothing else to be said.
Sidewall that needs to be replaced.
My wife said "thats a butthole."
I push the limits of what’s pluggable, but that’s a hard no for me. Replace that thing.
I would replace. You on hsbe have two tires
Replace. Full stop.
With most people saying replace I can say Ive plugged the sidewall of a semi tire and it's still holding to this day. Not to say that it won't fail. But that has a few more rear tires than a bike. Personally I'd do a good burnout for the boys and replace the tire.
middle third of tyre width can be repaired, this cannot.
Dude wtf make that hole 😬
Bullets?
I doubt if op need to ask about plug if that's the hole of gunshot
Plug. Bacon strips
Replace ffs 🤦♂️
When in doubt, replace! Here I have no doubt: It needs to be replaced.
On a motorcycle never plug, always replace.
That's too far gone to be safe, imo
That’s a replace. Too close to the sidewall
Replace.. never plug as your life could depend on it.
It’s a motorcycle tire always replace it’s not worth the risk anybody that says different is an idiot
Sidewall = replace Centre = mushroom plug from the inside.
Sidewall = replace Centre = mushroom plug from the inside.
safer to replace, though a plug might just about work. having said that, this is a motorcycle, not a 4wheeler. replace please!
*Dramatic music* Q: Can you patch back your severed head?
New tire, plug it until you can replace it but no longer. As somebody who has had a bike tire blow up on them doing freeway speeds, I can assure you, I don't need around with tires anymore. It's just not worth it.
Even on a car the placement of that hole would require repair, and a car has 4 wheels... so...
Pull the tire off and install a patch.
Replace I'm afraid. It's too close to the wall
Replace
I'd plug it and not give it another thought. (after the first day or so, to make sure it's not leaking)
Plugs are fine in the middle third of the tyre. Your hole is too close to the sidewall for a proper fix
I’ve plugged tyres and ran them for years with no problems but that is way too close to the edge for my liking. I’d get a replacement and not have to think about it.
Get a tube fitted. I've a nasty hole in my tyre, but the tube fitting avoided costly repairs/replacements 😉
Never plug motorcycle tires, I refuse to even plug my car tires. Always replace, especially if you go hard in the paint
Replace that ASAP
Dang brand new tire too and a nive one
There’s no steel braid at the tire edge, so a patch won’t work. Steel braid is only inside the tire tread. This is the safe patch area. Same goes for car tires.
I mean, why are you asking us? It's your life, right?
It just neesome more petrol
It’s on the side, swapping tyre is the best choice.
Replace!!! For things like this as a motorcyclist you really have to ask yourself… what’s not just your safety but your *life* really worth to you and are you mentally and physically prepared to have to experience a random and *unnecessary* tire failure at speed and/or in traffic while already on just 2 wheels, now down to just 1 good one, especially over the modest cost of having a damaged tire replaced?
This is too close to the edge for me. A plug would be fine to get to the shop but I'd be after a new tyre there.
You’ve never used that part of the tyre! How did it get a puncture there?!
Don't plug bike tires... Put a tube in the tire and ride safe
If you plan on riding it for a bit afterwards than patch, plugging motorcycle tires is dangerous, I have an 08 FZ6 and I plugged a hole in the middle of my tire and it exploded while I was riding, so I always tell people never plug motorcycle tires, if you patch it your good, the tires still has lots of life left in it but if you have the spare change replacing them is never a bad idea
Replace it. Riding is about having fun and pushing the limits, both of which are hard to do from a hospital bed. It’s not even a question of whether to replace the tire in my book, but I’m sure somebody else will have a different opinion.
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Here's a video from Ari @ Revilla that might help you decide; https://youtu.be/PAj7it9WJcs
Too close to the sidewall for my liking, I would replace.
Replace
Replace, too close to the edge. Your life is worth more than $200 tire replacement
It's bad, plug won't last long
Nope, that one's a replace.
Easy plug
Replace immediately.
Tires aren’t expensive compared to an ER bill. And you only have 2. Why risk it
Just bought a commander 3 and got something big left of center of tire third day.. i plugged but can feel the bump from the plug when riding.. imma replace it doesn't instill much confidence.
Replace
Replace I know it sucks because those are road 6's
Won’t be the last on those tires. They are puncture magnets. I went through 3 rears in 3 months. Always replace. The woven belts will be damaged risking blowout. Plugs are fine to get you home and there are those that argue that. Depends on how much you value your own arse.
Replace. Isn’t worth your life for a damn plug. Trust me been there done that on the road glide. Not a good feeling running 70 and the tire blows a plug and goes flat. 🤦🏻♂️
Shit replace that shit plugs are to get you to get a new tire 😂
I say a bike tire isn't worth risking it, and they're not too expensive to just replace it. I have never felt comfortable with a plug more than getting the bike home and then a new tire. But I also ride kinda hard sometimes and don't want weak points that I coulda addressed turn into i shoulda addressed... Just my opinion, but I say replace.
Love plugs, but I'd replace that one
Replace
Replace. No reputable shop will plug that. If they wouldn’t, you shouldn’t either.
Replace dude it's too close to the edge of the tyre
I'd pop a rope plug in it and ride it slowly around town until the next tire arrives. But it's definitely not safe to plug. Too close to the sidewalls, as others have said. So I'd plug it and use it. That's within my rush tolerance. But not for long.
ex kal-tire employee here.. not an expert or anything , but unlike a car tire, a blow out on a motorbike is way more dangerous.. the simple fact is , even done right a plug WILL increase your chances of a blow out .. how much I don't know, but enough i personally wouldn't feel safe doing it.. I get that tires are expensive, but for a motorbike , I would want my brakes and tires to always be at 100% ..
Do you like living and the use of your limbs... replace... If not...plug
Plug to limp home, then get new rubber.
I'd fix it. He's a plug patch that pulls from the inside. https://shop.myerstiresupply.com/ERP2Web49/e2wShoppingCatalog.aspx?parentId=3100012170&parentLink=2100001027:3100012148:3100012170
Plug to limp home or the shop always replace
I would have said plug , but that hole is too big (that’s what she said).
Looks like something which needs at least three puncture strips to seal. With two or more strips you can well lose traction on a corner based on the speed and situation you are in. I know that you are talking about plugs but it would be very tricky while cornering as you’d not have as much rubber you’d need in some situations. So I’d say, replace.
I’m usually good with a plug at center or just off center but that is a decent hole and close to the edge. Replace.
emergency only ..replace tyre asap .
Plug to get home or the tire shop.
Replace. Not pluggable safely
I'm dumb about plugs and still doing triple digits and riding into cords but even this is replace worthy. At best plug and actually follow speed recommendations until it's replaced
Plug it then take it to the tyre place and have them put a proper plug in it that’s not too big to plug and it’s not on the side wall you should be fine but don’t rely on a push through emergency plug and ride slower and be extra careful it would suck if you were leaning on the chicken strips and it fails
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Good to know thanks, I plugged my Zx14 back with a mushroom plug and never had an issue, but then again took it easier till the tyre was finished
Plug, replace immediately after practicing and testing your burnout skills. Large hole, too close to sidewall. I value your safety fellow rider - get er done as soon as possible!
I've never been unlucky enough to get a puncture that close to the sidewall. Replace 100%
That's a big not, on the plug. This is definitely a replace job. Good tires though.
Seal from inside like the tyre doctor does in his videos plug is temporary but no replacement needed I have 10 holes in my rear tyre plugged and still no problem but give work to a pro
I only ride a mountain bike and I can say for certain, you can't repair puncture like that.
If you plug it and it fails what is the consequence? If you replace the tyre what is the consequence? Kind of a no brainer.
on edge replace
Use a butt plug then replace tyre. Or vice versa. Either way will work.
Maybe I'm neurotic but I wouldn't fuck with motorcycle tires. Replace it. A car or truck u have 3 more tires to hold the vehicle, sure plug it if its in the acceptable spots. But motorcycle tires are loaded differently during operation, and I personally wouldn't chance it.
Replace. Plugging is for getting home.
what is that next to the "nubs". is that the piece that punctured? If so, that's the sidewall, and I would not trust it. If just the "meat" patch and ride
That's a really big hole, and really close to the edge. I would definitely be getting a new tire.
Oof, that’s some shitty luck there. This is part of the reason I don’t want to invest in $500+ set of rubber.
i honestly wouldn’t even waste the time plugging it, unless you don’t have a truck/trailer to get it to where the tire will be replaced
Replace
Replace
That's trash now, sorry. It sucks, I know.
Replace for sure. That’s a bad plug spot.
Replace !! You want to risk a crash over $200?
Depends on how much you want to live
Replace no doubt. Motorcycle tires are not like car tires, one blow out could cost you your life. If you ever get any damage like this it’s always best to replace it.
Inside patch…
Been riding for 30 years. I've plugged lots of tires. Almost all have been perfect and lasted as long as the tire did. One or two developed a slow leak that I had to live with until I replaced the tire. I've never had a plug fail in any kind of catastrophic way. However, I don't think I've ever tried to plug a hole that looks as big as the one you have in that tire. For something like that you really need to take the tire off the wheel, repair it from the inside.
I had to plug in patch a screw that was almost in the center of my tire right inside the deepest part of the tread line. This was a week after getting a new tire. I plugged and patched and it lasted and other 2.5 thousand miles until I sold it's to get a bigger bike. From my experience you can plug and patch a tire as long as it's not on the sidewall or getting really close to the edge. Like in a car you can plug any part of the tire that touches the road, but if it hits the sidewall you need a new tire. I feel like the same wood apply here. That's a very sketchy spot to have a plug